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Hi Lara,
No, I have not been able to find anymore information except that a friend
told me that Fly Smith was also known as Flea Smith. I did a general
Internet search on Flea Smith, which led me to the Scraper Family who's
family line mentions a Flea Smith. I sent an email to the site owner who
was kind enough to check to see if Margaret Smith was mentioned.
Unfortunately, he did not find her name or any Coatney's.
Jackie Coatney
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lara Bradley" <lara-bradley(a)stu.rose.edu>
To: <coatney(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:22 AM
Subject: [COATNEY] Margaret Ann Smith Coatney
> Hi,
>
> My name is Lara Bradley. I am doing research for my best friend who is the
> 4x great-granddaughter of Margaret Ann Smith Coatney. I was wondering if
> you might have any information containing her Cherokee heritage? I saw on
> rootsweb that you had a book that had clues, but I was wondering if you
> had found anything else?
>
> Thanks,
> Lara Bradley
>
> Annie's Lineage
>
> Annie Coleman
> Scott Coleman father
> Howard Coleman grandfather
> Jewel Coleman great grandfather
> Robert Rector Coleman gg grandfather md. Lelah Jane Coatney
>
> Lelah Jane Coatney granddaughter of Margaret Ann Smith Coatney.
>
>
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I meant to say George Washington Coatney....duh on me. Austin is from
another tree!! GW Coatney and Margaret Smith were my husband's great
grandparents x3.
Connie Coatney
Dumas, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: "CRB" <csm0373(a)comcast.net>
To: <coatney(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [COATNEY] Margaret Ann Smith Coatney
> Hello, it is good to see activity on the Coatney list.
>
> The Margaret Ann (Smith) Coatney in this thread (1808-12 Oct 1887) was
> married to George Washington Coatney, (1803-20 Jun 1888). They are my 2nd
> great grandparents.
>
> I was born in Crawford Co, AR not far from the homestead of George &
> Margaret. My mother was the granddaughter of William Bowen who married
> Malinda Catherine Coatney (1841-1925), a daughter of George & Margaret.
> My
> mother was very family oriented and as a youngster I spend many hours
> visiting her relatives. Especially those near Rudy, Kenner Chapel, Hobb
> Town and the 81 and 88 communities.
>
> As most of you may know the time before, during and after the Civil War
> was
> not a time for very much talking about or considering interracial
> marriages.
> That said I do believe that the children, grandchildren and great
> grandchildren of Margaret Coatney believed that she was a full blooded
> Cherokee. I also believe that... but my motives are suspect as that would
> make me a 16th Cherokee.
>
> When I got the bug for genealogy, which was before the first IBM computer
> and longer even before the WWW. I searched for sources to prove
> Margaret's
> Cherokee heritage. I researched every Indian Roll I could find including
> those at the Mormon library in Salt Lake. And later searched all I could
> find on the Internet. I found no mention of Margaret Smith listed as an
> Indian.
>
> There is a interesting and informative book by T. R. Coatney, another 2nd
> great grandson of George and Margaret. "Memoirs of an Ozark Pioneer and
> Civil War Soldier (2008)," about Ted's great grandfather, Pvt. James
> Francis
> Coatney. James Frances and his brother William T. served in Co D, 1st
> Arkansas Union Cavalry along with the previously mentioned William Bowen.
>
> I'd like to quote the first paragraph of this book by Ted Coatney:
>
> "My Coatney family came to Missouri from North Carolina by way of Great
> Great Grandfather George Washington Coatney, who was born in North
> Carolina
> in 1804. At the age of 16 George Coatney, displaying a strong pioneering
> spirit, left home on foot, ending up in Tennessee, living among the
> Cherokee
> Indians. While with the Cherokee he learned his lifelong tanning trade
> and
> married a Cherokee girl named Margaret Smith - it being common for the
> Cherokee to adopt the names and ways of white people they liked."
>
> Further in Chapter 1 it says that Margaret Smith was related to the
> Cherokee
> Chief Fly Smith. Chief Fly Smith, died on the "Trail of Tears" and is
> buried at a monument that you can search for and find on the Web.
>
> During my research in Crawford County I was told many times by Coatney &
> Bowen relatives that George and Margaret were concerned about perhaps
> having
> to be relocated to Indian Territory, because of Margaret's Indian
> heritage,
> so that they avoided ever getting on any of the Indian Rolls.
>
> I do have quite a bit of Coatney information, with many sources on my tree
> on RootsWeb WorldConnect.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Cliff Bowlin
> Colorado
>
>
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Hello, it is good to see activity on the Coatney list.
The Margaret Ann (Smith) Coatney in this thread (1808-12 Oct 1887) was
married to George Washington Coatney, (1803-20 Jun 1888). They are my 2nd
great grandparents.
I was born in Crawford Co, AR not far from the homestead of George &
Margaret. My mother was the granddaughter of William Bowen who married
Malinda Catherine Coatney (1841-1925), a daughter of George & Margaret. My
mother was very family oriented and as a youngster I spend many hours
visiting her relatives. Especially those near Rudy, Kenner Chapel, Hobb
Town and the 81 and 88 communities.
As most of you may know the time before, during and after the Civil War was
not a time for very much talking about or considering interracial marriages.
That said I do believe that the children, grandchildren and great
grandchildren of Margaret Coatney believed that she was a full blooded
Cherokee. I also believe that... but my motives are suspect as that would
make me a 16th Cherokee.
When I got the bug for genealogy, which was before the first IBM computer
and longer even before the WWW. I searched for sources to prove Margaret's
Cherokee heritage. I researched every Indian Roll I could find including
those at the Mormon library in Salt Lake. And later searched all I could
find on the Internet. I found no mention of Margaret Smith listed as an
Indian.
There is a interesting and informative book by T. R. Coatney, another 2nd
great grandson of George and Margaret. "Memoirs of an Ozark Pioneer and
Civil War Soldier (2008)," about Ted's great grandfather, Pvt. James Francis
Coatney. James Frances and his brother William T. served in Co D, 1st
Arkansas Union Cavalry along with the previously mentioned William Bowen.
I'd like to quote the first paragraph of this book by Ted Coatney:
"My Coatney family came to Missouri from North Carolina by way of Great
Great Grandfather George Washington Coatney, who was born in North Carolina
in 1804. At the age of 16 George Coatney, displaying a strong pioneering
spirit, left home on foot, ending up in Tennessee, living among the Cherokee
Indians. While with the Cherokee he learned his lifelong tanning trade and
married a Cherokee girl named Margaret Smith - it being common for the
Cherokee to adopt the names and ways of white people they liked."
Further in Chapter 1 it says that Margaret Smith was related to the Cherokee
Chief Fly Smith. Chief Fly Smith, died on the "Trail of Tears" and is
buried at a monument that you can search for and find on the Web.
During my research in Crawford County I was told many times by Coatney &
Bowen relatives that George and Margaret were concerned about perhaps having
to be relocated to Indian Territory, because of Margaret's Indian heritage,
so that they avoided ever getting on any of the Indian Rolls.
I do have quite a bit of Coatney information, with many sources on my tree
on RootsWeb WorldConnect.
Sincerely,
Cliff Bowlin
Colorado
Hi,
My name is Lara Bradley. I am doing research for my best friend who is the 4x great-granddaughter of Margaret Ann Smith Coatney. I was wondering if you might have any information containing her Cherokee heritage? I saw on rootsweb that you had a book that had clues, but I was wondering if you had found anything else?
Thanks,
Lara Bradley
Annie's Lineage
Annie Coleman
Scott Coleman father
Howard Coleman grandfather
Jewel Coleman great grandfather
Robert Rector Coleman gg grandfather md. Lelah Jane Coatney
Lelah Jane Coatney granddaughter of Margaret Ann Smith Coatney.
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