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Do any of these Maryland names match other people's names in your DNA
group? Linda
Coats Family History wrote:
> Well, it is quite possible that Mary in MD wife of William, son of
> Charles, is the same Frances in SC...I've seen other research refer to
> her as Mary Frances, that would not be uncommon - Rev Will and Nancy
> named their first child and daughter Mary; we believe Nancy's mother
> was Ann, so this could very well be the source for their daughter's
> name of Mary...however, nothing yet other than a connection in land
> records to the Green family in MD...so we're still looking...oh, folks
> this is just sooooooo exciting!! I love records!!
>
> We still have very very little info on both James and John Coats of SC
> that are connected to this group as well...
>
> We also have no daughter information on Charles and Sophia Coats and
> it is quite possible William wife Mary was their oldest son, with
> Charles and John coming next or with some daughters in there...we just
> don't have a record of births or birth dates.
>
> There also seems to be a Michael Coats and Robert Coats in those early
> MD records, not sure who they are at present...
>
> http://www.coatsarchive.us
>
> Check it out, maybe something will click!
>
> Char
>
>
No, not that I'm aware of??
On Nov 8, 2007 8:25 AM, Linda Coate <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com> wrote:
> Also, the name Bartholomew from Maryland is in your family tree too,
> correct Charlotte? Linda
>
> Coats Family History wrote:
> > Yes, Charles and Sophia come down in the John Coats wife Ann Dunnigan group...
> >
> > Recall Rev Will and Nancy named their first daughter Mary...and James
> > Coats wife Rachel Jackson is the first possibility of the name Rachel,
> > that was their second daughter I believe, James being their first
> > son's name...the major area we don't have a lot of info on is James
> > and John Coats in SC - although I do believe and the records support
> > that the John Coats of Chester County SC is the same one that shows up
> > on the early tax lists in Logan County KY...but he might be a son of
> > one of Charles' sons, James or John...we just don't know...
> >
> > Also recall Charles in SC wife Ann - I do believe this is probably
> > Charles and Ann Allnut/Allnutt of MD
> >
> > There is also a Robert Coats who left a will in Prince George County
> > in 1737, I have ordered that as well...
> >
> > Charles also sells land to a Wm Dennis and Jonathan Tucker in MD about
> > 1778 - so these could be son in laws but I don't know enough about the
> > families of the area to know and the Will records are not on the
> > Maryland Archive site as of yet...just the index to Will etc...oh,
> > maybe soon they will partner with the Probate clerks and these will
> > eventually be online...now if we can just get PA, VA and the rest of
> > those original colonies to do the same....:) they apparently are
> > still quite stubborn....:)
> >
> > Char
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2007 6:32 AM, Linda Coate <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Do any of these Maryland names match other people's names in your DNA
> >> group? Linda
> >>
> >> Coats Family History wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, it is quite possible that Mary in MD wife of William, son of
> >>> Charles, is the same Frances in SC...I've seen other research refer to
> >>> her as Mary Frances, that would not be uncommon - Rev Will and Nancy
> >>> named their first child and daughter Mary; we believe Nancy's mother
> >>> was Ann, so this could very well be the source for their daughter's
> >>> name of Mary...however, nothing yet other than a connection in land
> >>> records to the Green family in MD...so we're still looking...oh, folks
> >>> this is just sooooooo exciting!! I love records!!
> >>>
> >>> We still have very very little info on both James and John Coats of SC
> >>> that are connected to this group as well...
> >>>
> >>> We also have no daughter information on Charles and Sophia Coats and
> >>> it is quite possible William wife Mary was their oldest son, with
> >>> Charles and John coming next or with some daughters in there...we just
> >>> don't have a record of births or birth dates.
> >>>
> >>> There also seems to be a Michael Coats and Robert Coats in those early
> >>> MD records, not sure who they are at present...
> >>>
> >>> http://www.coatsarchive.us
> >>>
> >>> Check it out, maybe something will click!
> >>>
> >>> Char
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Yes, Charles and Sophia come down in the John Coats wife Ann Dunnigan group...
Recall Rev Will and Nancy named their first daughter Mary...and James
Coats wife Rachel Jackson is the first possibility of the name Rachel,
that was their second daughter I believe, James being their first
son's name...the major area we don't have a lot of info on is James
and John Coats in SC - although I do believe and the records support
that the John Coats of Chester County SC is the same one that shows up
on the early tax lists in Logan County KY...but he might be a son of
one of Charles' sons, James or John...we just don't know...
Also recall Charles in SC wife Ann - I do believe this is probably
Charles and Ann Allnut/Allnutt of MD
There is also a Robert Coats who left a will in Prince George County
in 1737, I have ordered that as well...
Charles also sells land to a Wm Dennis and Jonathan Tucker in MD about
1778 - so these could be son in laws but I don't know enough about the
families of the area to know and the Will records are not on the
Maryland Archive site as of yet...just the index to Will etc...oh,
maybe soon they will partner with the Probate clerks and these will
eventually be online...now if we can just get PA, VA and the rest of
those original colonies to do the same....:) they apparently are
still quite stubborn....:)
Char
On Nov 8, 2007 6:32 AM, Linda Coate <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com> wrote:
> Do any of these Maryland names match other people's names in your DNA
> group? Linda
>
> Coats Family History wrote:
> > Well, it is quite possible that Mary in MD wife of William, son of
> > Charles, is the same Frances in SC...I've seen other research refer to
> > her as Mary Frances, that would not be uncommon - Rev Will and Nancy
> > named their first child and daughter Mary; we believe Nancy's mother
> > was Ann, so this could very well be the source for their daughter's
> > name of Mary...however, nothing yet other than a connection in land
> > records to the Green family in MD...so we're still looking...oh, folks
> > this is just sooooooo exciting!! I love records!!
> >
> > We still have very very little info on both James and John Coats of SC
> > that are connected to this group as well...
> >
> > We also have no daughter information on Charles and Sophia Coats and
> > it is quite possible William wife Mary was their oldest son, with
> > Charles and John coming next or with some daughters in there...we just
> > don't have a record of births or birth dates.
> >
> > There also seems to be a Michael Coats and Robert Coats in those early
> > MD records, not sure who they are at present...
> >
> > http://www.coatsarchive.us
> >
> > Check it out, maybe something will click!
> >
> > Char
> >
> >
>
>
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You know it is quite possible, like Rev William and Nancy...that
Charles' wife is the one with the family connection in MD, we just
don't know her maiden name as yet...
Also judging from William and Frances' kids' names in SC, I also still
think they are connected to a Barton and Wilson family either in that
MD area or the area their parents came from...
I also think we know nothing of the brothers, James and John...that
finding more info on them might likewise help...
Recall Rev Will and Nancy's kids, their first few were: Mary, James,
Rachel, William, Nancy, John and Wilson, also Anna - and I do believe
those names have family significance - Mary, Rev Will's mother, Rachel
?, William, Rev Will and his father; Nancy, Nancy; John, Nancy's
father, Wilson, brother Wilson and Anna or Anne, Nancy's mother....
Notice that sons, James, William and John....it is James and John that
we have so little info about, so I'm wondering if likewise there might
be some significance to that...and the name Rachel stands out as well,
so who was she named after?
Just some thoughts...
Char
On 11/3/07, Coats Family History <coats.genealogy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, that is the Courts/Coats group in Charles County MD, this
> Charles' wife was Elizabeth and he died in Charles County MD, let's
> see I think this Charles died too early...the only connection I see
> between the Courts of Charles County MD is that John Courts sold land
> or actually he was leasing land for 14 years to a Henry Wright I think
> to build a plantation, interesting read at any rate, but this land was
> located in hmmm, either Frederick County MD or Montogmery County MD
> and the deeds states John was from Charles County MD, but all the
> original records spell this name Courts in MD and in a lot of cases
> the name has been transcribed as Coats/Coates...this Courts family as
> Coates also has documentation I think it is in the Colonial Dame
> Society...
>
> But I just can't get a connect between Charles Coats and Sophia his
> wife to any of the other Coats in the area...the name Sophia does come
> down in some of the Essex County MA Coats as late as the 1840s but if
> Charles had been born in MA or CT or married or his kids born in
> either of those states, there would be records of it...except Boston,
> those records are a bit iffy...
>
> So I suspect it's going to take some obscure record from somewhere,
> that hasn't been published yet, before I find Charles' family!!
>
> I know Charles has a family somewhere...but he's just kinda struck out
> on his own and ends up in MD....:)
>
> If only PA would put all it's county land records online and Virginia
> as well, and of course all the other states back there...then I could
> at least try to find them...and all their church records etc...:)
>
> Char
>
> On 11/3/07, Susan McIntyre <sbmc2(a)chartermi.net> wrote:
> > Char,
> >
> > I noticed this the other day when it was sent to a mailing list that I
> > belong to - it names (in an 1708 Chas. Co., Md will) children Charity,
> > John, Charles & William born to Charity & John Coates.
> > http://www.midatlanticarchives.com/db_md_statewide/md_cal_wills_3/pg111.html
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> > Coats Family History wrote:
> >
> > >Ok, here's the web page:
> > >
> > >http://coatsarchive.us/charlescoatsmd.htm
> > >
> > >I really think it is going to take more will and land records in other
> > >areas to figure out where this Charles came from...it would appear
> > >that perhaps at least some of his earlier children were probably born
> > >somewhere else other than Montgomery County MD and he appears to be
> > >the only one in this area at this time period and we don't know where
> > >he died...
> > >
> > >Char
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Well, it is quite possible that Mary in MD wife of William, son of
Charles, is the same Frances in SC...I've seen other research refer to
her as Mary Frances, that would not be uncommon - Rev Will and Nancy
named their first child and daughter Mary; we believe Nancy's mother
was Ann, so this could very well be the source for their daughter's
name of Mary...however, nothing yet other than a connection in land
records to the Green family in MD...so we're still looking...oh, folks
this is just sooooooo exciting!! I love records!!
We still have very very little info on both James and John Coats of SC
that are connected to this group as well...
We also have no daughter information on Charles and Sophia Coats and
it is quite possible William wife Mary was their oldest son, with
Charles and John coming next or with some daughters in there...we just
don't have a record of births or birth dates.
There also seems to be a Michael Coats and Robert Coats in those early
MD records, not sure who they are at present...
http://www.coatsarchive.us
Check it out, maybe something will click!
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Forgot to mention - make sure to check the next page as it lists a John
Courts aged 17. Without seeing the original document(s) it is
impossible to say if his surname is actually Courts or the penmanship is
causing confusion and it is the same John Coates listed in the beginning
of the will.
Susan McIntyre wrote:
>Char,
>
>I noticed this the other day when it was sent to a mailing list that I
>belong to - it names (in an 1708 Chas. Co., Md will) children Charity,
>John, Charles & William born to Charity & John Coates.
>http://www.midatlanticarchives.com/db_md_statewide/md_cal_wills_3/pg111.html
>
>Susan
>
>
>Coats Family History wrote:
>
>
>
>>Ok, here's the web page:
>>
>>http://coatsarchive.us/charlescoatsmd.htm
>>
>>I really think it is going to take more will and land records in other
>>areas to figure out where this Charles came from...it would appear
>>that perhaps at least some of his earlier children were probably born
>>somewhere else other than Montgomery County MD and he appears to be
>>the only one in this area at this time period and we don't know where
>>he died...
>>
>>Char
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>
Yes, that is the Courts/Coats group in Charles County MD, this
Charles' wife was Elizabeth and he died in Charles County MD, let's
see I think this Charles died too early...the only connection I see
between the Courts of Charles County MD is that John Courts sold land
or actually he was leasing land for 14 years to a Henry Wright I think
to build a plantation, interesting read at any rate, but this land was
located in hmmm, either Frederick County MD or Montogmery County MD
and the deeds states John was from Charles County MD, but all the
original records spell this name Courts in MD and in a lot of cases
the name has been transcribed as Coats/Coates...this Courts family as
Coates also has documentation I think it is in the Colonial Dame
Society...
But I just can't get a connect between Charles Coats and Sophia his
wife to any of the other Coats in the area...the name Sophia does come
down in some of the Essex County MA Coats as late as the 1840s but if
Charles had been born in MA or CT or married or his kids born in
either of those states, there would be records of it...except Boston,
those records are a bit iffy...
So I suspect it's going to take some obscure record from somewhere,
that hasn't been published yet, before I find Charles' family!!
I know Charles has a family somewhere...but he's just kinda struck out
on his own and ends up in MD....:)
If only PA would put all it's county land records online and Virginia
as well, and of course all the other states back there...then I could
at least try to find them...and all their church records etc...:)
Char
On 11/3/07, Susan McIntyre <sbmc2(a)chartermi.net> wrote:
> Char,
>
> I noticed this the other day when it was sent to a mailing list that I
> belong to - it names (in an 1708 Chas. Co., Md will) children Charity,
> John, Charles & William born to Charity & John Coates.
> http://www.midatlanticarchives.com/db_md_statewide/md_cal_wills_3/pg111.html
>
> Susan
>
>
> Coats Family History wrote:
>
> >Ok, here's the web page:
> >
> >http://coatsarchive.us/charlescoatsmd.htm
> >
> >I really think it is going to take more will and land records in other
> >areas to figure out where this Charles came from...it would appear
> >that perhaps at least some of his earlier children were probably born
> >somewhere else other than Montgomery County MD and he appears to be
> >the only one in this area at this time period and we don't know where
> >he died...
> >
> >Char
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Congratulations, Char. Isn't a find like this exciting?
Barbara Dooley
>From: Coats Family History <coats.genealogy(a)gmail.com>
>Date: 2007/11/02 Fri PM 06:33:55 CDT
>To: coates(a)rootsweb.com, coate <coate(a)rootsweb.com>, Coats <coats(a)rootsweb.com>,
Coats list yahoo <Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [COATES] Charles' wife!!
>Charles' wife's name is Sophia!!!
>
>Oh, what a trip this is!!!!!!!
>
>Char
>
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Well, i really had just said hey, the next generation will have to
take this up...lol...then I found the MD state archive has all their
early land records on line...these are the deeds that are desperately
needed when you can't find any other records...and I gotta tell you,
this bunch of mine is pretty elusive...
I still however, do not know where Charles came from before he got to
Prince George, Frederick and the Montgomery County MD, see Montgomery
county was made from Frederick County and Frederick was made from
Prince George County, so although you find records in all three
counties, the land never moves nor does Charles, the county lines just
keeps moving...the real problem I'm having is, he died with probably
quite a bit of land, yet, there is no will for him that I can find in
the Will indexes for MD...so it is indeed perplexing as to what
happened to him or his land, I did not find any land for him in Prince
George County in 1742, however, seems some of the Frederick County
deeds might be that late...I'll have to go through all of them and see
what's what as I put them on the web...and if all his kids came to SC,
it is quite possible he was there with one of them or something....
The main thing we've learned is:
Charles Coats and his wife Sophia had a son named William whose wife
was Mary, so even if this Charles is the father of Notley and James
and they had a brother named William, this would not be my William
Coats wife Frances...although I do believe these are all related...we
still know nothing about James and John Coats from this group...there
just isn't any record in SC that William had a first wife, I just
think that would probably have been mentioned in some estate
records...but in all the records of SC William appears to have only
one wife...and I am inclined at present to think, my William was a
cousin to this group...and there is likewise an early William in MD
with Charles, that I think might be too early to be the son William,
so Charles may have a brother William...that's from memory and before
I found all these other wonderful land records...wow...just wonderful
finding those, now if the other Archives would do the same as in NY,
PA and VA...NJ who else is in that area...ME, VT etc...so many of
these puzzles could at least have some fresh info added to them....:)
There is a book Tombstone Records of Chester County, SC and seems to
me, I've asked someone for a look up in that book...I'll have to
recheck, but seems there wasn't any Coats in it...anyway, that's a
book...so you'll see reference to that in the NEHGS research...
They've also asked to publish or make the information available via
the NEHGS, so I've agreed to that...
I also still think this group might be connected to the NY group but
of course the counties I'm looking for are not there yet...:)
However, there has to be someone out there that knows something about
some of these folks back on the East Coast...so the info is here, when
they get ready to look....:)
The only early name I'm finding in Prince George County MD is Courts!!
and they are in Charles County MD as well, in fact one land record
refer to John Courts of Charles County MD...
Ok, I'll quite for now...:)
So more to come!!
Char
On 11/2/07, James and Barbara Dooley <jb.dooley(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> Congratulations, Char. Isn't a find like this exciting?
>
> Barbara Dooley
>
>