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Stories of Interest
We previously reported that the remains of Nathaniel Hawthorne's wife and
daughter had been disinterred from their resting place in England to be sent
to the United States for reburial next to Hawthorne in Concord. The remains
were reinterred in a private ceremony attended by 40 Hawthorne descendants
on June 26. Read the full story at
www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/06/27/hawthorne_revisited/.
The Providence Journal staff writer Gerald Carbone has written a series of
articles on Rhode Island's Revolutionary War hero Nathaniel Greene. The
series chronicles many events of the war, and can be read at
www.projo.com/extra/2006/greene/.
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Dear List: Robertson Co. Ky, was formed in 1868 from other counties.
That pretty much rules it out as far as the county where James Robert
was in 1808. The Cumberland Gap is on the border of of TN and KY, but is
quite a bit east of Robertson. Since Char has documentation on her line
in TN, I think that is where we'll find James Robert. Maybe he was
related to Barton, who we know was there, and was staying with him or
other relative. Sumner Co. is just east of Robertson. I think we are
getting warmer in our search for James Robert in 1810. That census was
missing when I visited Springfield earlier this month. We need the
original copy of the census to see if they were living with Barton, or
someone else. Does anyone have access to that? They could have been in
another county tho. If Wilson Coats killed someone in KY, and then was
sentenced in TN, that makes sense, since Sumner and Robertson are on the
border. I think Wilson, James Robert, and Rev Will were all related, and
were in TN in 1810. Any thoughts?
John
John
I've got a couple of emails on the DNA project that are bouncing, so
if you have a DNA kit at the Coats project, please make sure you've
got the right email in there...otherwise they bounce...they bounce if
your email if full as well or if you've changed emails or any other
number of reason...
I still have a few invites to gmail.com if anyone needs a new
email...tons of storage space on here, no more hunting for those pesky
genealogy notes you got 2 years ago and now can't find them....:)
Although I still have trouble with that, so maybe there isn't a cure
for that....:)
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Well this is interesting...this is the goal of the Cumberland Gap
group...I noticed in that Northumberland England group they have Coats
listed as well...anyone in our group who knows for sure they are from
that group with a DNA test?
"To connect Cumberland Gap area families together. To discover female
maiden names where they have been lost to history using DNA results."
I got a couple of females, I need a first name for!!
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I think she meant this to go to the list as well...
Char
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From: NLynn66932(a)aol.com <NLynn66932(a)aol.com>
Date: Jun 27, 2006 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Willson Coats
To: coats.genealogy(a)gmail.com
Our Mary "Polly" Coats married Gershom "Gasham" Lynn in Muhlenberg
Co., KY on 15 Oct 1815. Polly was thought to be born in NC (possibly
Rowan Co. where Gasham was from) about 1801. They settled in Warrick
Co., IN. There was also, if memory serves me right, a Wiley Coats in
Warrick.
I don't know any more about her origins, but that is one Coats that was in KY.
Nancy Lynn
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Coats Family History wrote:
> Oh, thanks John, I think this is where I found some probate records
> for William Coats and Frances...where she was made the administrator
> or something...can you get back issues?
>
> On 6/27/06, John Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net> wrote:
>
>> List; Just recieved a complimentry copy of the Old Newberry Quarterly,
>> I guess because I was just there researching. The coatsarchives recieved
>> a great plug. Many Coatses have been documented by this SCGS. Too many
>> to mention. Dues are just $25 for individual. After Sept 1st dues are
>> for the next year. Address is: Lib Pitts
>> 406 E. Florida St.
>> Clinton, SC. 29325
>> Make check to South Carolina Gene Soc., Newberry Chapter
>> John
>>
>>
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>> Yes, I'm quite sure you can get back issues. They listed an index of
>> the names from spring 1992 to winter 2002. So, I'm guessing you could
>> get all of those.
>
John
>
>
List; Just recieved a complimentry copy of the Old Newberry Quarterly,
I guess because I was just there researching. The coatsarchives recieved
a great plug. Many Coatses have been documented by this SCGS. Too many
to mention. Dues are just $25 for individual. After Sept 1st dues are
for the next year. Address is: Lib Pitts
406 E. Florida St.
Clinton, SC. 29325
Make check to South Carolina Gene Soc., Newberry Chapter
John
yes, quite right....:) and a few others....:)
On 6/27/06, John Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net> wrote:
> Coats Family History wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave...Coate, Coates and Coats are all variation of the same
> > names...:) and all three are included in our DNA project...I'm trying
> > to get a Couts in there as well....:)
> >
> > On 6/27/06, David E. Eaton, Sr. <airforcedad21144(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Good Morning List...
> >>
> >> (...And what a lovely day...the rain has stopped...)
> >>
> >> --- COATES-D-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:18:54 -0700
> >> > From: "Coats Family History"
> >> > <coats.genealogy(a)gmail.com>
> >> > To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
> >> > Subject: Calulating genetic distance
> >> >
> >> > Here is some good info on genetic distance...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/DNA/FTDNA%20Genetic%20Dis...
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Char
> >>
> >> I followed the above link (as is my wont when
> >> presented with a topic of interest that I wish to
> >> learn more about). It lead to several other FTDNA
> >> links that were equally interesting. It also lead to
> >> several questions on my part.
> >>
> >> One of the questions I present here; to wit, has
> >> anyone compared the results of our DNA Project with
> >> the other FTDNA Projects regarding the "COATES"
> >> surname? I would think that if this was done it might
> >> help our own research. The unfortunate thing is I
> >> don't feel as if I know enough to undertake such a
> >> project.
> >>
> >> As I said above, I feel it might help in providing
> >> direction for our research.
> >>
> >> Just one of many questions.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave...
> >>
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> >> Char; Don't forget Cotes
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Char; Remmember from your Tennessee Time Line that Willson Coats was
convicted of murdering someone in KENTUCKY, then tried and sentenced in
Tennessee. I believe we have neglected Kentucky in our research. In
fact, I believe it may have been Robertson County Kentucky where John
Webster, the first child of James Robert was born, not Tennessee. I will
be researching Robertson County Kentucky in the near future.
John
Ah, quite correct...:) but the Wilson that was convicted of murder
was younger than the Wilson of Bedford County TN and was believed to
be the son of Wilson Coats of Bedford County TN...seems there was also
a Wilson Coats in Tipton County TN and Barton Coats there...but I've
likewise not researched that area except tax lists....
Yes, I agree Kentucky is a neglected research area...mainly because it
appears at least via my line Ky doesn't seem to ever come up in the
info handed down...however, that could have been because Rev Will was
not there as long as John Baker, I think John was there for a good 10
or 20 years...
KY has pretty good records...as well as NC....so research in both
those areas is probably needed at this point...
Char
On 6/27/06, John Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net> wrote:
> Char; Remmember from your Tennessee Time Line that Willson Coats was
> convicted of murdering someone in KENTUCKY, then tried and sentenced in
> Tennessee. I believe we have neglected Kentucky in our research. In
> fact, I believe it may have been Robertson County Kentucky where John
> Webster, the first child of James Robert was born, not Tennessee. I will
> be researching Robertson County Kentucky in the near future.
> John
>
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Hi Dave...Coate, Coates and Coats are all variation of the same
names...:) and all three are included in our DNA project...I'm trying
to get a Couts in there as well....:)
On 6/27/06, David E. Eaton, Sr. <airforcedad21144(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Good Morning List...
>
> (...And what a lovely day...the rain has stopped...)
>
> --- COATES-D-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
>
> > Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:18:54 -0700
> > From: "Coats Family History"
> > <coats.genealogy(a)gmail.com>
> > To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Calulating genetic distance
> >
> > Here is some good info on genetic distance...
> >
> >
> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/DNA/FTDNA%20Genetic%20Dis...
> >
> > Char
>
> I followed the above link (as is my wont when
> presented with a topic of interest that I wish to
> learn more about). It lead to several other FTDNA
> links that were equally interesting. It also lead to
> several questions on my part.
>
> One of the questions I present here; to wit, has
> anyone compared the results of our DNA Project with
> the other FTDNA Projects regarding the "COATES"
> surname? I would think that if this was done it might
> help our own research. The unfortunate thing is I
> don't feel as if I know enough to undertake such a
> project.
>
> As I said above, I feel it might help in providing
> direction for our research.
>
> Just one of many questions.
>
> Regards,
> Dave...
>
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Good Morning List...
(...And what a lovely day...the rain has stopped...)
--- COATES-D-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:18:54 -0700
> From: "Coats Family History"
> <coats.genealogy(a)gmail.com>
> To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Calulating genetic distance
>
> Here is some good info on genetic distance...
>
>
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/DNA/FTDNA%20Genetic%20Dis...
>
> Char
I followed the above link (as is my wont when
presented with a topic of interest that I wish to
learn more about). It lead to several other FTDNA
links that were equally interesting. It also lead to
several questions on my part.
One of the questions I present here; to wit, has
anyone compared the results of our DNA Project with
the other FTDNA Projects regarding the "COATES"
surname? I would think that if this was done it might
help our own research. The unfortunate thing is I
don't feel as if I know enough to undertake such a
project.
As I said above, I feel it might help in providing
direction for our research.
Just one of many questions.
Regards,
Dave...
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Well, we have a conflict with the Wilson Coats'....
As you recall Neva included Wilson Coats of Bedford County TN as the
brother of Benjamin and Barton and Rev Will....this was based on
Mansel's research via Wilson's son James...however, the DNA results
for the decendants of Mansel's research did not match Rev Will but
instead matched the NC group...This could also mean that Neva's line
is via that North Carolina group since her line came down via Wilson
Coats of Bedford County TN's son Benjamin....a DNA test from a
descendant of this son could be of help also....and of course, he has
a son William Coats that went to MS I believe...so more DNA tests from
these lines would be a great help...
What we don't know is:
Where Wilson of Bedford County TN might have come from i.e. is he the
same Wilson Coats in Logan County KY or is he the same Wilson W. Coats
who is in Mansel's research. I don't recall that Mansel gave any
documentation or reference for where he got his info....We have very
little info about Wilson in Bedford County TN because he died
apparently pretty young in 1822 and left few papers...or at least few
that we've found thus far.
We don't know if there might be two Wilson Coats - it is my believe
that the Wilson Coats in Logan County KY at least went somewhere after
he left Logan County KY could be the Old Dock refered to in another
article in the archive - then he came back to Logan County KY and then
to Bedford TN if he is the one in Rev Will's group. Might be that
Logan County KY will give us more clues on this family as well....
I have not yet found any record that would refer to him as William W.
Coats...I will admit the Wilson Coats marriage in Sumner County TN has
always puzzled me some...although it was not uncommon for the wedding
to take place where the bride lived....
So it might be that there are two Wilson Coats...
I don't think that we have enough records yet...to really form a good
solid idea ...Mansel's research is on the DNA family files pages in
the archive...although I don't recall all the records we have for
Wilson, most of them are land records.
We also don't have a clear record of where the Wilson Coats of Bedford
County TN came from before he was in TN....
However it does appear this Wilson of Bedford County TN, could fit
within either group....except DNA shows these groups unrelated....:)
I'll take DNA over research anyday....:) So if anyone on this list is
related to either Wilson Coats or Barton Coats of TN or should I say,
Barton might give us more info....but we need clear documentation to
these folks or the DNA tests don't mean anything when attached to the
records.
We need Male surnamed Coats or variations for the DNA project...so if
you know someone, please let them know about us....:)
Char
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I've been doing some research on the Burrell Coats that is Spotts
Ancestor and it appears that he is not the Burwell Johnson Coate born at
almost the same time with some similar naming patterns to him. They
are two completely different persons.. but the name being so similar
makes me wonder if they were related back in time. DNA is the best
way we'd know for sure. Linda Coate
Well our DNA project is starting to look like the Baker project with a
lot of ungrouped as yet family lines...so this is not surprising and I
do hope we gather many more results so we can all make those
connections!!
Remember, if you're going to a family reunion take a DNA kit with you....:)
You can order a kit sent to you then when you go to the reunion, get
the sample and return it to Houston, you can update the contact info
with the name of the person who gave you the sample...
This is so simple a cave man could do it....:)
Hoping everyone's summer is going well!
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