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Hello all,I am trying to find information about my grandmothers family.I now know her fathers name was John Hagues and her mothers name was Emma nee Maw,her sister Martha Ann was born in1862 Grace in1873 her brother was James Frederick born in 1871.All were born in Cottingham E Yorks, if anyone knows anything about relatives of this family I would appreciate any information at all Many thanks June
Charlotte Coats wrote:
>
> http://www.copies1918.com/edgefield1.html
>
> There is a James Coats that died in Edgefield SC any one know anything
> about him?
>
> Char
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> Char; I think this would be James of Edgefield, who according to my
> hypothesis would be one of the sons of John (Gentleman) Coats, of
> Newberry. Proof of this is James selling his property, which he
> inherited from John Gent, according to John Gent's will, to his
> brother William. The property described in John Gent's will, and the
> property James sold to William are one and the same. The Coates of
> Illinois, who I sponsored for DNA testing, matches Marmaduke, and all
> the others in that group on your site. I sent you copies of these
> documents a year or so ago. Therefor, I believe that all the Coatses
> in James and Marmaduke's group on your site are descendents of, or
> closely related to John (Gentleman) Coats.
John Coats
Hi Everybody, I hope someone has Juliana Coates born in late 1700's
married to Jeremiah Burnett(also born in late 1700's) and living in
Spartanburg SC in 1840 census with their young family.I have not been
able to view this census, someone told me about it...I do not have
ancestry.com, so would appreciate anyone who has time,..to please copy
it off, for me? I hope someone knows her parents and siblings.Also do
you know if he married (2) a Sarah____ and came to Alabama? Thanks so
much. Regards, Stella
Dr. Spencer Wells is the project director or head gene guy...he narrates the
film Journey of Man
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From: Max Blankfeld <max(a)familytreedna.com>
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Subject: [DNA] Spencer Wells about Jefferson's Haplogroup
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:26:00 -0500
List,
Spencer Wells asked me to bring to you his following remarks related to
Jefferson's Haplogroup:
"As part of our genetic analyses for the film SEARCH FOR ADAM, we analyzed
additional markers on Jefferson's Y-chromosome in an effort to determine why
it is so unusual. If you recall the original Hemmings paper in Nature by
Foster et al., the haplotype was 'rare', which is what enabled them to
implicate Jefferson as the source rather than another European. At the time
there were no matches among the 607 European men (Jefferson's father claimed
Welsh ancestry) who had been genotyped for the same 11 microsatellites.
Recent searches of more comprehensive databases have turned up related
haplotypes belonging to haplogroups O, K and Q. We investigated the 12
microsatellites routinely typed by FTDNA, which did not add to the
haplogroup resolution. SNP testing, however, revealed that Jefferson's Y is
positive for M70, which places him in haplogroup K2. K2 is rare in northern
Europe (only one K was found among 1772 British men surveyed by Capelli et
al., but it wasn't typed for M70) but quite common in the Middle East and
northeast Africa, where it reaches frequencies of 10% or more.
Interestingly, another person typed in the film, the Ethiopian prince, is
also K2, but many mutational steps removed from Jefferson. We are currently
looking at potential source populations for Jefferson's K2 as part of a
broader survey of Y-chromosome variation in the Middle East and North
Africa, and expect to submit a publication by the end of the year. I'm sure
that all of you will appreciate the amount of effort that has gone into
launching The Genographic Project, and hope that you will understand that
our publication schedule has been somewhat delayed as a result.
Spencer Wells
Mission Programs
National Geographic Society"
E-mail me any time!
Max Blankfeld
Vice-President, Operations and Marketing
http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com
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max(a)familytreedna.com
713-868-1438
Well, in my last email, I told you I had sent my mtDNA to National
Geographic for their project...I got and sent it in last Friday...but didn't
have a chance to view the DVD that came with it...wow!
On the DVD is instructions for taking the swab...and...
The National Geographic program *The Journey of Man*...I believe it was the
same shown on their NG program...wow....Dr. Spencer Wells is the
narrator....wow...he travelled all the way to Africa, India and Austrialia
to get blood samples for this project....
His findings....we all came from one tribe out of Africa...they had a
clicking language of sorts...mix words and clicks I'd say...you might have
seen this in another NG program because I had heard of them before...he
proves with the Y DNA marker that one branch of this family came from Africa
around the Coast through India and into Austrialia...but to prove his theory
further he went into India and found the marker that showed they had indeed
gone that route...
Another branch of this tribe in Africa went into let's see, the middle east,
then into Russia...Kurestan...hmmm, I'll have to watch it again to make
sure...then from there they went into Europe-France, from there to Sibera
and indeed from Sibera into Alaska all during the Ice age...then from Alaska
down through Canada to the US and he traced that original group to the
Navajo Indians....and then on down into South America....
He has done this all with the Y DNA tests - that Y Chrom goes unchanged from
generation to generation and each step of the way, he has found it in
various groups through out the world, all coming back to the tribe in
Africa!! In these Y tests he looked for specific markers that were present
in tests from prior regions...in Austrialia he found the same marker in the
aboriginals there as in the tribe in Africa...
Amazing...just amazing...it was worth the kit to watch that program......:)
So I encourage you, if you are female on this list to participate and if
male - likewise - it will give you a deeper understanding of just where you
came from....
And remember - we really are all cousins!!
Char
We have two new DNA kits due back...one is due back 7/16/05 and the other
was just received in Houston...
One is from the Coats family out of western PA I believe it is, the other
with roots in SC...so will tell you more as I gather it....
Ladies, I also got a National Geographic kit and sent it in...for the mtDNA
it doesn't necessarily give your lineage like the Y test but you can trace
your female line back to the beginning of time, I guess...this via the
haplogroups...anyway, I would encourage you to give it a try...you can also
order the mtDNA kits via FTDNA and then upload to National Geographic or
visa versa I think...at any rate, this will trace my female lines...and who
knows what they will come up with in the future....
For the gentleman on the list...if you have a Coats surname or variation and
have not submitted a DNA kit, please do consider it...I think we still have
about $50.00 in the fund...so we can help some or call for donations....I
for one have found this extremely helpful....
I must say, DNA is becoming very very helpful in connecting families, so
don't let later generations miss out on this important genealogy tool...and
remember it also helps us in tracing that paper trail as well....
Charlotte
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I do have the 1664 marriage jotted down and several others I have
collected. But there is so much circumstantial documentation that Joan
Coats/Clemson was originally a Sisom that if the 1664 marriage is hers -
then Coats may have been her second marriage (as the name is listed as
Joane Robinson) which would make her even older than previously
calculated. I would not be surprised to learn that Joan
Coats/Clemson's previous husband had been named John Coats and that they
are documented with a son named William born 1679 (and Thomas b. 1682,
John b. 1684, etc) - but I truly think that it will be from a marriage
later than 1664.
As you say the early records are scarce and we will have to wait and see
what appears in the future to help clear up this connection.
Thanks for the additional Clemson family details,
Susan
Charlotte Coats wrote:
> Yes, I agree, I always like at least 3 different references...but when
> you get back into these really early dates...boy the records get
> really scarce....so this would be one of the *keep in mind* maybes.....:)
>
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Susan McIntyre <sbmc2(a)chartermi.net>
> To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: FW: Re: [COATES-L] RE: [Coates_Coate_Coats] My Coates
> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:22:34 -0400
>
> I have noticed the 1664 marriage of John Coats & Joane Robinson listed
> in (I think) the Ancestry.com database and in an online tree. But I
> think it may be the marriage of a different couple than are being
> discussed here. If the James Clemson information is correct then he
> was born in 1654. If the Joan Coats that Clemson married is the widow
> of the John Coats listed in the 1664 marriage then she would likely
> have been born between 1644-1649 (assuming she was 15-20 yrs. old when
> married). James Clemson would have been 10 years old at the time Joan
> married John Coats. That would mean she was in her 70s when she
> married James Clemson between 1716-1718 (in 1716 he listed wife named
> Sarah - in his 1718 will he is aged 64 and his wife is named as Joan)
> - not impossible but highly unlikely.
>
> According the the Clemson information you shared with the list earlier
> today James Clemson's first marriage was in 1682 to Katherine / by
> 1716 to Sarah / by 1718 to Joan. The shared data lists his children
> born between 1685 to around 1705.
>
> I would be very cautious in accepting the 1664 marriage as that of the
> Clemson connection without additional documentation.
>
>
>
I have noticed the 1664 marriage of John Coats & Joane Robinson listed
in (I think) the Ancestry.com database and in an online tree. But I
think it may be the marriage of a different couple than are being
discussed here. If the James Clemson information is correct then he was
born in 1654. If the Joan Coats that Clemson married is the widow of
the John Coats listed in the 1664 marriage then she would likely have
been born between 1644-1649 (assuming she was 15-20 yrs. old when
married). James Clemson would have been 10 years old at the time Joan
married John Coats. That would mean she was in her 70s when she married
James Clemson between 1716-1718 (in 1716 he listed wife named Sarah - in
his 1718 will he is aged 64 and his wife is named as Joan) - not
impossible but highly unlikely.
According the the Clemson information you shared with the list earlier
today James Clemson's first marriage was in 1682 to Katherine / by 1716
to Sarah / by 1718 to Joan. The shared data lists his children born
between 1685 to around 1705.
I would be very cautious in accepting the 1664 marriage as that of the
Clemson connection without additional documentation.
Charlotte Coats wrote:
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "brenden1mom2001" <MOMANN1(a)AOL.com>
> Reply-To: Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com
> To: Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com
> Subject: FW: Re: [COATES-L] RE: [Coates_Coate_Coats] My Coates
> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:02:33 -0000
>
> Ok in diging some more I Found the following:
> 1. John Coats; m. Joane Robinson 3mo 8 1664 at York Monthly Meeting,
> England; 1st husband.
> He resided at York, Yorkshire, England.
> Joane Robinson married J. Clemson; 2nd husband. She died in 1729
> at Philadelphia, PA.
> Known children of John Coats and Joane Robinson were:
> 2. i. William Coats, b. 12mo 21 1679 at Yorkshire,
> England; m. Mary Smith.
> Thanks again I think this seems like it may be a better possibility
> than I thought.
>
> Thanks
> Ann
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From: "brenden1mom2001" <MOMANN1(a)AOL.com>
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To: Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com
Subject: FW: Re: [COATES-L] RE: [Coates_Coate_Coats] My Coates
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:02:33 -0000
Ok in diging some more I Found the following:
1. John Coats; m. Joane Robinson 3mo 8 1664 at York Monthly Meeting,
England; 1st husband.
He resided at York, Yorkshire, England.
Joane Robinson married J. Clemson; 2nd husband. She died in 1729
at Philadelphia, PA.
Known children of John Coats and Joane Robinson were:
2. i. William Coats, b. 12mo 21 1679 at Yorkshire,
England; m. Mary Smith.
Thanks again I think this seems like it may be a better possibility
than I thought.
Thanks
Ann
--- In Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com, "Charlotte Coats"
<coats@h...> wrote:
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Susan McIntyre <sbmc2@c...>
> To: COATES-L@r...
> Subject: Re: [COATES-L] RE: [Coates_Coate_Coats] My Coates
> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:12:35 -0400
>
> Oops - after I re-read the email I realized that giving up "rights"
could
> also mean that she was giving up her children but if I remember
correctly
> the information was that she gave up her rights to an inheritance.
> Sorry for any confusion.
> Susan
>
> Susan McIntyre wrote:
>
> >In Joan Coates/Clemson's will there is only one Mary - she is the
wife of
> >John Harris and daughter of Joan/Jean/Jane (Joan was likely a
Sissom by
> >birth). The executor was her son John Coates. The witnesses
appear to be
> >Samuel Hale, William Prise & John Durborow/Durborough.
> >Her last husband was likely James Clemson who died in 1718 as he
names wife
> >Joan Clemson and has witnesses - James Lloyd & Mary Harris.
Children listed
> >are - his sons John Clemson, James Clemson, Thomas Clemson and
daughter
> >Sophia. He names as executors - Henry Pearoe? & son-in-law
Loeury? Guest.
> >No documentation but my guess is that Joan Coates & James Clemson
may not
> >have had children together but came into the union with children
from
> >previous marriages. I have no idea where they met or married but
according
> >to their wills they died in Philadelphia, PA.
> >
> >Seems to me I ran across some online PA documentation that a
Clemson widow
> >gave up her "rights" to Clemson children but I have no idea if
this is the
> >same family.
> >Hope this helps,
> >Susan
> >
> >
> >Charlotte Coats wrote:
> >
> >>Could this be a variation spelling of Cleminson in the US?
> >>
> >>http://www.coatsarchive.us/pacoatsanaly.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>CLEMSON, JOAN. City of Philadelphia. Widow. September 10,
1727/8. April
> >>23, 1729. E.105. Children: Mary wife of John Harris, William
Coates,
> >>Thomas Coates, John Coates and George Coates, Mary. Son-in-Law:
John
> >>Harris. Exec: John Coates. Wit: Samuel Hare, William Prise,
John
> >>Durborow. I think Mary was probably a Coates as well, she may be
named
> >>last in the group because she was the youngest but married, not
sure of
> >>that and could probably be the same Mary who married John Harris..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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From: "brenden1mom2001" <MOMANN1(a)AOL.com>
Reply-To: Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com
To: Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com
Subject: FW: Re: [COATES-L] RE: [Coates_Coate_Coats] My Coates
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:51:29 -0000
Don't think they are the same a Cleminsons, but will look further,
thank you for your help. I found the following ,Just posting incase
someone else can use it:
James Clemson
1654-1718
compiled and written by
Paulette Haynes
August, 1985
Records for James Clemson in America are limited although his origin
in England was apparently at Tettanhall, Staffordshire Parish,
England. His christening was recorded there on 10 Aug 1654 and he was
the son of Alexander and Elizabeth (Green) Clemson who married 27
September 1652. James Clemson's first marriage to Katherine Wright,
of Dudley, was recorded 22 Nov 1682 and the christening at Tettenhall
for several of their children followed. James and Katherine Clemson
also appear in the register of Dudley parish in 1697/98.
Hannah "Clempson" daughter of "James Clempson" was christened 3 Aug
1692. The parish church of Tettenhall is St. Michael & All Angels and
the registers begin in the year 1602 (see note).
The first record in America for James Clemson is a 13 Oct 1699 deed
to him, a blacksmith, for 4 acres and 2 lots near the town of
Chichester, on the Delaware River, now called Marcus Hook. By 1702,
he moved several miles inland to a one hundred thirty-five acres
farmstead property at Booth's Corners, and in 1710 purchased a three
hundred acres tract on the Bethel-Concord township line in Chester
County, Pennsylvania from the heirs of William Cloud. On 18 May 1716
he acquired a patent of 600/636 acres in Salisbury Twp, Lancaster
County, Pennsylvania. Five hundred acres of this was a grant to him
and the other one hundred was sold to him by William Lewis. An
additional 36 acres was a road allowance.
On 1 Jun 1716 James Clemson made a trust deed to his daughter Mary
Guest (wife of Henry Guest), of the 300 acres farm in Concord Twp.
with the conditional grantee Sophia Clemson, a daughter, of five
pounds, if Sarah "now the wife of James", to be cared for by Mary and
her husband Henry through illness as long as she lived, did not live
5 years. It is evident by this trust deed that in 1716 James Clemson
was married to a woman named Sarah. James Clemson wrote his will 12
July 1718 in Philadelphia and at this time he was married to the
widow Joan Coates. The will was probated in Philadelphia, August
1718. It is often stated that James Clemson was buried in the Quaker
Cemetery in Philadelphia but that apparently cannot be verified.
James Clemson bequeathed to his three sons (John, James & Thomas)
536 of the 636 acres in Lancaster County on which he had obtained a
patent in 1716. He bequeathed to his daughter Sophia 39 pounds in
bonds after the death of his wife Joan who had the life interest on
the bonds. His eldest daughter, Mary, was not mentioned in his will
because he had given his 300 acre Concord Twp. property to her and
her husband Henry by a trust deed dated 1 June 1716.
Hannah and her sister Rebecca were not mentioned in the will having
been given 50 acres each of the patent land, in Salisbury Township,
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. This gift was made between June
1716, when he acquired the patent and July 1718, when he wrote his
will. The heirs of James Clemson agreed to the division of the 636
acres, in quit claim deeds dated 26 Mar 1731 (the second day of
1731). At this time, Hannah Clemson was married to Joseph Haynes, a
yeoman "of the province of West Jersey". On 6 October 1731, Hannah
Haynes declared she signed the deed of her own free will, and her
fifty acres of property was sold by Joseph and Hannah Haynes "of West
New Jersey" to her brother, John Clemson in 1733. On the 15th of May
1742 Joseph Haynes acknowledged having received the sum of ten pounds
for the land and being "fully satisfied".
Children of James Clemson (who lived to adulthood ; several were of
the Quaker faith):
1. Mary Clemson christened 8 Mar 1685 Tettenhall, Staffordshire
Parish, England married Henry Guest
2. Hannah Clemson christened 3 Aug 1692 Tettenhall, Straffordshire
Parish, England married Joseph Haynes. The Clemson family history
contains no further record of Hannah and Joseph Haynes. Burial places
and death dates for them have not yet been found, and their children,
if any are not known.
3. John Clemson born ca 1701 Pennsylvania married (1) Mary Elliott
and (2) Elizabeth Way
4. James Clemson (2nd son) born Pennsylvania married Mary Halliday.
5. Rebecca Clemson married Dennis Onan
6. Sophia Clemson born 1705 Pennsylvania married William Sawyer of
Derry Twp. Lancaster Co. PA
7. Thomas Clemson (3rd son) born before 1710 Pennsylvania married
Elizabeth Strode
* The parish register of the parish church of St Michael & All Angels
commences in 1602. The original registers for the period 1602-1968
(Bapts), 1602-1948 (Mar) & 1602-1946 (Bur), and Banns for the period
1754-1799 are deposited at Staffordshire Record Office.
Bishops Transcripts, 1687-1859 (with gaps 1692-96, 1699-1715, 1717-
1800, & 1837) are deposited at Lichfield Record Office.
A transcript of the St Michael & All Angels registers for the periods
(part 1) 1602-1744, and (part 2) 1745-1839 (Mar) was published in
1930 and 1967 by the Staffordshire Parish Register Society and has
been reprinted by the Birmingham & Midland SGH.
Oops - after I re-read the email I realized that giving up "rights"
could also mean that she was giving up her children but if I remember
correctly the information was that she gave up her rights to an inheritance.
Sorry for any confusion.
Susan
Susan McIntyre wrote:
> In Joan Coates/Clemson's will there is only one Mary - she is the wife
> of John Harris and daughter of Joan/Jean/Jane (Joan was likely a
> Sissom by birth). The executor was her son John Coates. The
> witnesses appear to be Samuel Hale, William Prise & John
> Durborow/Durborough.
> Her last husband was likely James Clemson who died in 1718 as he names
> wife Joan Clemson and has witnesses - James Lloyd & Mary Harris.
> Children listed are - his sons John Clemson, James Clemson, Thomas
> Clemson and daughter Sophia. He names as executors - Henry Pearoe? &
> son-in-law Loeury? Guest.
> No documentation but my guess is that Joan Coates & James Clemson may
> not have had children together but came into the union with children
> from previous marriages. I have no idea where they met or married but
> according to their wills they died in Philadelphia, PA.
>
> Seems to me I ran across some online PA documentation that a Clemson
> widow gave up her "rights" to Clemson children but I have no idea if
> this is the same family.
> Hope this helps,
> Susan
>
>
> Charlotte Coats wrote:
>
>> Could this be a variation spelling of Cleminson in the US?
>>
>> http://www.coatsarchive.us/pacoatsanaly.htm
>>
>>
>> CLEMSON, JOAN. City of Philadelphia. Widow. September 10, 1727/8.
>> April 23, 1729. E.105. Children: Mary wife of John Harris, William
>> Coates, Thomas Coates, John Coates and George Coates, Mary.
>> Son-in-Law: John Harris. Exec: John Coates. Wit: Samuel Hare,
>> William Prise, John Durborow. I think Mary was probably a Coates as
>> well, she may be named last in the group because she was the youngest
>> but married, not sure of that and could probably be the same Mary who
>> married John Harris..
>>
>>
>>
>
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From: "brenden1mom2001" <MOMANN1(a)AOL.com>
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To: Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Coates_Coate_Coats] Re: My Coates
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:25:28 -0000
Thank You, Here is the web address I was speaking of , Christine has
a really great sight !
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/4320/
A page from her sight :
Home Pages with Dales' links
Don Mari - Spensley links from Whitaside, Swaledale
Dave Stringer-Calvert - Wensleydale families
The Limes - With information on several Dales families
The Carter family - with links to other Dales' families including
Spensley
The Spenceley family- Harome, Pickering, Beadlam, Helmsley areas
Alderson Cousins No Spensleys here, but some other Dales' families.
Charlton's homepage Many Wensleydale families
Norton Heritage with several Wensleydale families
Staveley family Aysgarth
Croft Family Pages Including Croft families from Carperby/Aysgarth
area
Neil Thompson's Homepage Includes Birkbecks from Swaledale
Gunnerside - with links to families of that area of Swaledale
- and with Amsden links
Amsden genealogy U.K
The Amsden Family in the U.S.A
Census can be found on her sight as well for most available years in
the CENSUSES OF WENSLEYDALE AND SWALEDALE
Ann
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To: Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Coates_Coate_Coats] Re: My Coates
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:51:59 -0000
I supose it could be possible that Joan could just have a misspelled
and be Cleminson it hapens , I know that James Cleminsopns birth
record son of Robert and Jane Coates Cleminson, was misspelled. Also
Elizabeth Cleminson married Henry Hunt and they moved to PA,
Elisabeth died June 23, 1895 Vinco,Cambria,PA.
Notes for Elizabeth Cleminson:
NEWSPAPER ARTICLE: Mountaineer Sentinel, Ebensburg, Pa, Thursday
January 17, 1850, pg. 3: Notice is hereby given to all persons
interested, that Letters of Administration have been granted to the
undersigned, by the Register of Cambria County, on the estate of
Henry Hunt, late of Conemaugh Township, Cambria County, deceased.
Those indebted to said are required to make immediate payments, and
those having claims, to present them properly authenticated for
settlement. Signed: Elizabeth Hunt, Adm.
__________________
CHURCH ARTICLE: Hunt, Elizabeth, nee Clemenson, was born in
Yorkshire, England, April 6, 1809, and died June 23, 1895, in Cambria
County, Pa. She came with her husband, Henry Hunt, and family to
America in July 1830. They were members of the Wesleyan Church in
England, and first settled with the Methodist Episcopal Church in
Johnstown. In due time preaching was established in Brother Hunt's
house, then a church was built, and the second one now stands on the
same site. Sister Hunt was converted at twelve years, and was married
in her seventeenth year, her husband being already a member of the
church. Hers was a beautiful, devoted and noble Christian life. She
maintained the strict observance of the Sabbath, and it was a great
grief to her to witness violations of the sacred day, especially on
the part of professors of religion. Her suffering during her last
days were borne with cheerfulness, and she "was joyful in the house
of her pilgrimage." She would say, "The lord is good to me and you
are all good to me." She rejoiced in a full salvation, and adorned
the blessed doctrine of holiness. She "was full of faith and the Holy
Ghost." A large family connection remains and among her influence
remains as "ointment poured ____." by Rev. J. L. Stiffy.
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OBITUARY: The Tribune, Johnstown, Cambria Co., Pa: June 24, 1895:
Mrs. Elizabeth Hunt died at the home of her son-in-law, Mr. Henry
Varner, one mile west of Fairview, yesterday forenoon at 6 o'clock,
age eighty-six years and two months. Mrs. Hunt was one of the oldest
and best known residents of Cambria County. She was born in
Yorkshire, England and emigrated to this country with her husband,
the late Henry Hunt, in 1809. The family located to Pottsville and
after a residence of about a year at the place they removed to East
Taylor Township, in which the deceased has lived ever since. After
their removal to this county the husband found employment as a
foreman on the construction of the Old Portage Tunnel, where he
worked up to the time of its completion. He died in 1849. The
deceased was the mother of eleven children, five of whom survive:
Timothy L., of Roxbury; William, of Jackson Township; James, of
Nebraska, John, of Altoona; and Susanna, wife of Henry Varner, of
Jackson Township. There are living about forty-five grandchildren and
over fifty great-grandchildren. The deceased had been a devout member
of the Methodist Church from girlhood and was well known for her
charity and many deeds of kindness. The funeral will take place from
her late home at 10 o'clock tomorrow forenoon, interment to be made
in Wesley Chapel churchyard with services by Rev. J. L. Stiffy, of
Conemaugh.
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OBITUARY: The Tribune, Johnstown, Cambria Co., Pa: Monday, June 24,
1895: Hunt, In Jackson Township on Sunday evening, June 23, 1894 at 6
o'clock, Mrs. Elizabeth Hunt, aged 86 years and 2 months. Funeral at
10 o'clock tomorrow morning; interment in the churchyard at Wesley
Chapel.
"Near Johnstone, Feb 3rd 1849
Dear Friend,
I was at Johnstown yesterday & got your letter & was glad to hear
from you & that your family were all well; likewise that you were
still striving in the good old way for if we all be Faithful we shall
soon all meet where there will be no afflictions & partings. We are
glad that you intend to come to America in the spring for we think
you will do better in this country with your family than you are
doing there. If you can raise the means to get to Philadelphia we
can assist you from there to our home. We would recommend some of
your friends to make a collection in the society to assist you to get
over. You can said from Liverpool to Philadelphia or New Yourk
(sic), the cost is about the same each way, only by New York is 3 or
4 days sooner. But if any of your friends can give you
recommendations to any of their friends at Liverpool it will be of
great benefit to you. W. Spensley of Reeth recommended us to one
Anthony Barnes who treated us like a father but we do not know
whether he is living or not. The fare across the ocean is from £3 to
£4.10 each person, children half price. We have not heard of Metcalf
Bell this 8 or 10 years, as for Galana we do not know much about it,
only it is a great lead mining place. We do not know the exact
distance, but we suppose it is between 2 and three thousand miles
from here. You can go from here to Pittsburg & then down the Ohio
River up which you can to to Galana, but whether it is the best way
or not we do not know. We would like to see you come this way. You
could get work here, they are making a new Railroad from Harrisburg
to Holidasburg. This distance is 100 miles. From Holdasburg to
Johnstown is 36 miles by Railroad. We live 6 miles from Johnstown.
We are well known to many as we go every week to market. When you
get there inquire for Jonathan Bowing. He is a pious local preacher
& he will give you directions. It is generally the best time to come
early in the spring, for they open the canals in March. You must
write from Liverpool & let us know when you sail & what ship & where
you land & whether we must send you money to Philadelphia or engage
your Passages.....We farm our own we have 134 acres altogether.
Between 30 & 40 acres are cleared. We have 2 horses, 6 cows, 9 head
of young cattle, 50 sheep & 4 hogs.
Your affectionate & loving friends
Henry & Elizabeth Hunt
Direct as below
Mr. Henry Hunt, near Johnstown, Gar[side] County, Pensilvania, Nth
America.
To James Pratt
PS.
"Please give our love to our Brother Joseph Hunt and tel him if he
intend to come to america he ought to come the sooner the Bether for
Land is sil getin dearer so it will take more money to buy a farm
please give our love to Johnathan Daykin and family and all our
friends you met with before you come We often thought of you And
taked about you and wondered how you were coming on but when we heard
from you we felt deply For you but I hope the good Lord will open
out your way to this good country........."
(James Pratt did not make the trip)
There are several Cleinson famyies in The Yorkshire Dales, as well as
Coates. I have a friend ( I met in my searches) with an excelant web
sight she has several familys list in census, I will see If I can
find the link and post it here.
Thanks
Ann
--- In Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com, "Charlotte Coats"
<coats@h...> wrote:
> Could this be a variation spelling of Cleminson in the US?
>
> http://www.coatsarchive.us/pacoatsanaly.htm
>
>
> CLEMSON, JOAN. City of Philadelphia. Widow. September 10, 1727/8.
April
> 23, 1729. E.105. Children: Mary wife of John Harris, William
Coates, Thomas
> Coates, John Coates and George Coates, Mary. Son-in-Law: John
Harris.
> Exec: John Coates. Wit: Samuel Hare, William Prise, John
Durborow. I think
> Mary was probably a Coates as well, she may be named last in the
group
> because she was the youngest but married, not sure of that and
could
> probably be the same Mary who married John Harris..
>
>
Could this be a variation spelling of Cleminson in the US?
http://www.coatsarchive.us/pacoatsanaly.htm
CLEMSON, JOAN. City of Philadelphia. Widow. September 10, 1727/8. April
23, 1729. E.105. Children: Mary wife of John Harris, William Coates, Thomas
Coates, John Coates and George Coates, Mary. Son-in-Law: John Harris.
Exec: John Coates. Wit: Samuel Hare, William Prise, John Durborow. I think
Mary was probably a Coates as well, she may be named last in the group
because she was the youngest but married, not sure of that and could
probably be the same Mary who married John Harris..
----Original Message Follows----
From: "brenden1mom2001" <MOMANN1(a)AOL.com>
Reply-To: Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com
To: Coates_Coate_Coats(a)yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Coates_Coate_Coats] My Coates
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:01:33 -0000
I only have 2 coates in my tree both of whom I know nothing about so
I thought I would post here what I know.
Jane Coates b.? England d. May 1822 Gunnerside England buried Chapel
Burial Ground Gunnerside Married Robert Cleminson b.June 14, 1778
Feetham, England On April 13, 1802 Grinton Parish, England. They had
the following Children:
Elizabeth Cleminson b. April 7, 1809
William Cleminson b. February 18, 1803
Robert Cleminson
John Cleminson b. November 6, 1806
George Cleminson b. 1812
James Cleminson b. May 18, 1813
Jane Cleminson b. 1815
Isaiah Cleminson b. September 15, 1817
After Janes death Robert marries Esther Coates on December 22, 1823
in Grinton.
They have one child Joseph Robert Cleminson b. October 14, 1824 who
is a Methodist minister and later his son is also a Methodist
minister. Joseph marries Jane Ann Hetherington b. ca 1835. They have
2 children:
John Heatherington Cleminson b. about 1856 Keswick, Cumberland
Ester J. Cleminson b. about 1861 Perth Scotland
I do not know how or if Jane and Esther are related or who thier
parents are.
If any one knows more about Jane and Ester Coates I would love to
share what I know about the Cleminsons
Thanks,
Ann
----Original Message Follows----
From: <max(a)familytreedna.com>
To: <coats(a)hotmail.com>,<jwcoats(a)htc.net>
Subject: New features and 2nd Conference announcement
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:27:23 -0500
To Coats group manager,
We have a few features that I would like to report to you:
a) We want to have all our Group Administrators 100% satisfied. To
accomplish that, we have adjusted our code regarding the transfer of
individuals from the Genographic Project to Family Tree DNA: if a Group
has a join restriction, this restriction will remain in place, and
the Group Administrator (GA) will receive a notification. ATTENTION: the
GA is not supposed to send the current join link which would lead to a new
order. For more information about allowing a join request from the
Genographic Project, please refer to your GAP Quick Reference.
b) We are pleased to announce the 2nd International Conference on Genetic
Genealogy for Family Tree DNA Group Administrators. This year it will be a
2-day event at the National Geographic headquarters in Washington DC.
Among the highlights of the Conference are Dr. Michael Hammer and Dr.
Spencer Wells. Space will be limited and a link to the press-release and
registration can be found at our home page.
c) We have added to the personal pages of all our customers a link that
allows to upload data to the Genographic Project. More information about
it can be found under the tab "Genographic Project" at your personal page.
We would like to encourage you and your members to join this fascinating
project.
There are more features on the works, but for now I will leave you with
the above.
As always, thank you for your support!
E-mail me any time!
Max Blankfeld
Vice-President, Operations and Marketing
http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com
"History Unearthed Daily"
max(a)familytreedna.com
713-868-1438
I would be interested to make contact with any one who has connections with
the Coates family name in Belfast. My ggrandfather George Coates, came to
Melbourne, Australia in 1853. Born in Waring Street, c1832 his parents
were George and Ann (McFarlane).
George had a brother William who died in Chesire 1886, married to a Rachel
Coates, her father was William Coates also of Belfast. I think George sr and
William may have been brothers, Rachel was still alive in 1912.
Pauline McIntyre. Melbourne.
Anyone familiar with this line out of VA?
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Charlotte Coates" <CharlotteCoates(a)carolina.rr.com>
To: <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: COATS Family
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:56:03 -0400
Charlotte,
I married into the Thomas E Coates, family living in MD. My husband was
Edward T Coates. I am Charlotte Sutphin (now Coates) of NJ. I would like to
present the younger generation the genealogy of their ancestors.
Through family members and census I have:
Thomas Edward Coates, b 1892 Foneswood, Richmond Co., VA, d 1950 in Rison,
Charles Co,. MD, m. Louise Dora Murphy 1914. There were six issues. Ruth
Ida, Clarence Melvin, Mary Elizabeth, James Robert, Edward Thomas (my
husband) and Benjamin Alfred (living).
Smith Melvin Coates, b 1860 Stonewall, Richmond Co., VA, d ? m Ida Virginia
Henson, b 1863, perhaps Stonewall as well as her parents were born in
Stonewall. There were seven issues. Eva A., Thomas Edward (my
father-in-law), Melvin Carter, John, Benjamin, Myrtle and Nellie.
Carter S Coats, b 1831, VA, d ?, m Maria ? There were seven issues: Smith
Melvin, Nicholas D., Fannie E., Vannie, Hallaway, Clarence and Minnie.
If these Coats/Coates merge into any part of your gleanings I will be
greatful for any info you might share.
Sincerely, Charlotte V. Coates
Charlotte, NC
This Genographic Project is by National Geographic url:
https://www5.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/participate.html
I think there will eventually be a link on your pages to join this as well
if you like...that's for those that currently have DNA results at FTDNA....
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: <max(a)familytreedna.com>
To: <coats(a)hotmail.com>,<jwcoats(a)htc.net>
Subject: New members from the Genographic Project
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:37:55 -0500
To Coats group manager,
Family Tree DNA started delivering results to the Genographic Project
during the last week of May. Along with all the information received, they
have, in their personal pages at the Genographic website, the opportunity
to upload their results to Family Tree DNA, and in the process they can
choose to join a Surname or Geographical Project.
When they opt to join Family Tree DNA, the system looks at their surname
and performs a surname search. As a result, they receive the different
options of projects existing for their surname, and the person gets to see
each description in order to select one of them. Once they select it, they
can join the Group. We have called a few Group Administrators that have
their project set as "Do not allow joining without request" and asked them
what they would prefer in this case. They were all unanimous in saying
that they would like those new members to be allowed to join without
having to request, but they would like to be notified when a new person
has joined the project. We have coded the system accordingly and all Group
Administrators should be notified as someone joins their project coming
from Genographic. All new members coming from Genographic will have a
number preceded by the letter N.
Of course, like in any case now, a person is given the opportunity of
changing projects by contacting us.
After the first weekend since the initial results were presented, we
already have a few hundred individuals joining Family Tree DNA and several
Projects. This is exciting news for us and for Group Administrators that
always wanted a way to see their projects increase in numbers. We would
encourage you to welcome the new members and help them understand the
genealogical aspects of their test, including whether to upgrade their
test or not.
As always, we appreciate your input and support.
E-mail me any time!
Max Blankfeld
Vice-President, Operations and Marketing
http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com
"History Unearthed Daily"
max(a)familytreedna.com
713-868-1438