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Well, in Maryland it's Coarts in SC it's Coats...
In Charles County MD it's Courts transcribed from what I can tell as Coates
in most records...
Charles Coarts was in Frederick County MD some distance from Charles County,
so there may not be a connection between these two family lines...also I've
added some new info to the Maryland Timeline page in the Coats Archive...it
doesn't appear that Charles Coats in Charles County MD had a son named
Charles...I've not checked all of them and I don't think all of the kids
have been account for in this group...so maybe they wondered into Frederick
County MD...but there is also quite a group of Barton's in Charles County
MD...also the either the Courts or Barton's have a VA connection as
well....Bartholomew Courts/Coates' son was a Thomas Courts/Coates...that
website at rootsweb, has this Charles County MD Courts and Barton families
pretty well covered....and well documented...
Also in Charles County MD there is an early William Couts....so the name may
have gotten transformed over the years from Couts to Courts...but not
sure...but that Couts may also have been the first of a line from the
Shetland Islands....and they branched out from Charles County MD...the
Courts seemed to have land in quite a few counties on both the East and West
Coasts of MD...so being a rather small state, might not be as significant as
say SC or TX or WY...
Sooooo, still looking....:)
Char
These from Tom in MN....:)
Thanks, Tom...
Char
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Subject: South Dakota Records
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:36:16 -0500
Lake Co SD records
Last Name First Name Cemetery
Coates Charles D. Graceland
Coates Cora E. Graceland
Coates Isabelle Graceland
Coates James P. Graceland
Coates John Jay Graceland
Coates Martha Graceland
Coates Melvin L. Graceland
Coates Nathan Graceland
Coates Nettie R. Graceland
Coates Wilbert E. Graceland
Coats Baby Lake Madison
Coats Minnie L. Winfred
Coats Winnie L. Winfred
GRACELAND CEMETERY, MADISON, LAKE CO., SOUTH DAKOTA
Coates Charles D. M 1858 16 Mar 1952
Coates Cora E. F 1888 13 Feb 1954
Coates Isabelle F 1858 11 Apr 1949
Coates James P. M 10 Jan 1895 23 Oct 1967 yes Ia Eng.
WW I
Coates John Jay M 1886 17 Nov 1949
Coates Martha F See: Martha
Graham
Coates Melvin L. M 1928 13 Jan 1946
Coates Nathan M 1900 21 Dec 1944
Coates Nettie R. F 1878 1934
Coates Wilbert E. M 1869 1934
NAME MERIDIAN T WP RANGE SECTION ACREAGE TYPE
CASETYPE DOCID DATE
COATES FRED 07 010 S 002 E 015
160 251101 PA 419615 07/06/1914
COATES FRED 07 010 S 002 E 027
160 251101 PA 729320 01/20/1920
COATES FRED 07 010 S 002 E 027
160 251101 PA 729320 06/25/1936
COATES FRED 07 010 S 002 E 028
200 251104 PA 928054 12/31/1923
COATES FRED 07 010 S 002 E 028
200 251104 PA 928054 06/25/1936
COATES GEORGE 07 010 S 002 E 009
40 251101 PA 446870 12/05/1914
COATES GEORGE 07 010 S 002 E 010
120 251101 PA 446870 12/05/1914
COATES GEORGE 07 010 S 002 E 003
120 251101 PA 780095 11/03/1920
COATES GEORGE 07 010 S 002 E 004
40 251104 PA 780096 11/03/1920
COATES GEORGE 07 010 S 002 E 010
80 251104 PA 780096 11/03/1920
COATES LOUISA 07 010 S 002 E 004
80 251104 PA 110812 05/02/1940
COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 015
80 251101 PA 423405 07/23/1914
COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 022
80 251101 PA 423405 07/23/1914
COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 022
40 251104 PA 930700 01/28/1924
COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 023
40 251104 PA 930700 01/28/1924
COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 026
120 251104 PA 930700 01/28/1924
COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 027
40 251104 PA 930700 01/28/1924
Index to 1910 Atlas, Union CO., SD
This file is an index to the "Standard Atlas of Union County, SD"
(1910) Compiled by
Geo. A. Ogle & Co.
The index was compiled by Joy R. Fisher, jfisher(a)ucla.edu from the
original atlas.
Copyright, 1996 Joy R. Fisher. This file may be freely copied for
non-profit purposes.
All other rights reserved.
Last Name First Name Section Twp Name T
R Page Other Info
Coates Samuel 9 Civil Bend
89N 49W 47
Minnehaha Co. SD -- Federal Land Records -- Names "C" -"E"
NAME MERIDIAN TWP RANGE SECTION
ACREAGE TYPE CASETYPE DOCID DATE
COATES ANNA E 05 103 N 052 W 008
160 272002 PA 7108 04/10/1884
COATES OSCAR P 05 103 N 052 W 009
160 251101 PA 6946 03/22/1888
COATS CASSIUS M 05 101 N 049 W 022
160 262201 PA 1521 07/10/1873
COATS CLARK G 05 102 N 049 W 028
160 251101 PA 1802 08/20/1878
COATS CLARK G 05 101 N 049 W 031
160 262201 PA 566 03/20/1872
1883 U. S. Military Pensioners, Dakota Territory
Coates, Cassius Sioux Falls Minneh
U.S. Military Personnel Who Died (Including Missing and Captured Declared
Dead) as a result of the Vietnam conflict, 1957-1995 Listed Alphabetically
by Name as of November 1997
Mil. Military - Home of Record - Date of Place of Date of BNR Name Grd.
Service City or Town State Death* Death Birth Type of Casualty
COATES HARRY JAY JR MAJ AIR FORCE YANKTON SD 04NOV69 S.VIETNAM 28SEP31
HOSTILE,KILLED
Other Odd data
Coates Tricia Ann George Coates & Colleen Larvia
Infant May 31, 1972 Houston TX June
10, 1973 Chapel State Home
Coates Wilfred Allen Fred & Mary Taylor Coates
Adult October 26, 1909 Edgemont
April 24, 1960 United Church Hot Springs
COATES Georgia 1st 04 81 1871 1964 n
COATES Giffen 1st 04 81 1894 1950 n
COATES Josiah 1st 04 81 1839 1914 y
COATES Kathryn 1st 02 88 2 1903 1987
COATES Leonard 1st 02 88 8 1897 1973 n
COATES Ruby 1st 04 81 1887 1971 n
Greetings all,
After having had my computer crash and burn(and losing all my addresses to boot), I have finally managed to get back to the Coates list. It has been a trial.
Hope I haven't missed out on anything world-shaking, Charlotte, John, et al,; but if I have, am hoping someone will clue me in.
Anyway, regards to all.
Larry
wow...yours did what mine did a couple of weeks ago...I'm going to have to
take my old hard drive down to get the data off of it that I had stored....I
usually save it to disk but there was several months worth of work still on
it...
Words for the day: backup, backup, backup, backup...
This is the only thing new I've got:
http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/coatsarchive/maryland.htm
And to add a bit to it ... there is both Couts and Courts in MD early
on...but whether or not Coarts is a merged version of both those, I don't
know yet...or the Coats in Chester County SC are Couts or Courts but because
SC spelled it Coats/Cotes that could indicate it has a Couts origin out of
MD...still looking...:) But it appears all versions of the name in Maryland
has been spelled Coates in the transcribed records...but many of the
original records I've seen thus far have Courts spelled that way rather than
Coates....
We really do need more male Coate, Coates, Coats and variations to join our
DNA project...Couts by the way, doesn't have a project started yet...so I've
been trying to see if they would join ours and then depending on the results
they could spin it off....the following lines still don't have a rep in the
project:
Notley Coats
Barton Coats
Thomas Coates m Beulah Jacques
Joan Sisom's Coats sons
Moses and Susannah Coates out of Chester County PA
James and Mary Coats out of early GA in Wrightsborough I think it was...
Any others??
So if you are a male Coate, Coates, Coats on this list...please consider
joining our DNA project...it really will help us to focus groups and
research...
Remember also we have a donation fund at PayPal for DNA kits, so if you
don't have a male Coate, Coates, Coats consider donating to the fund, and if
you need a *scholarship* from the fund, let us know...I believe we currently
have enough funds for a 12 marker kit...
And don't forget to let everyone know, when you find anything in your
research....:)
Char
Full lines here:
http://www.sphosting.com/stark/genealog1.html
They don't show any children...but could be they descend from the Morgan
line and just don't have the Ann Coates Stark kids...looks like she died
pretty young...
Still Noooooooo sign of Priscilla Coats/Coates here sister...
*******************************
20. WILLIAM6 STARK (THOMAS5, JAMES4, JOHN3,JOHN2, JOHN1) was born May 20,
1753 in , Fairfax, VIrginia, and died November 4, 1826 in , Robertson,
Tennessee. He married (1) ANN (STARK) COATES 1776 in , Newberry, South
Carolina. She was born ABT 1757 in , Newberry, South Carolina?. He
married (2) MARTHA (STARK) MORGAN July 21, 1789 in , Robertson, Tennessee.
She was born May 4, 1770 in , Robertson, Tennessee, and died August 25, 1821
in , Robertson, Tennessee.
More About WILLIAM STARK:
Burial: Stark Cemetery, Robertson, Tennessee
More About WILLIAM STARK and ANN COATES:
Marriage: 1776, , Newberry, South Carolina
More About WILLIAM STARK and MARTHA MORGAN:
Marriage: July 21, 1789, , Robertson, Tennessee
Children of WILLIAM STARK and MARTHA MORGAN are:
i. WILLIAM7 STARK, b. February 18, 1790, , Robertson,
Tennessee; d. August 1, 1864, , Robertson, Tennessee.
ii. RACHEL STARK, b. ABT 1791, , Robertson, Tennessee;
d. ABT 1884, , Robertson, Tennessee.
iii. EPHRAIM STARK, b. 1793, , Robertson, Tennessee; d.
Bet. 1837 - 1838, , Robertson, Tennessee.
iv. JAMES STARK, b. ABT 1800.
Yes, Susan, "Coates Family Memorials & Recollections; or Aunt Mary's
Patchwork" by
Mary Coates 171+34p. /1885 is about the line of Thomas and Buelah Jaques.
Mary was their 3 x great granddaughter.
Happy studies,
Os
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I don't understand the tests. I have 5 exact matches then it says four of
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Recommendation
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You took the 25 marker test. The results displayed on the Y DNA Match
page first shows those whom you match at 12 Markers, and then 25 Markers.
On the 12 marker test you matched 5 men at 12/12 and 3 more at a Genetic
Distance of 1, or an 11/12 match. Since you share the same surname, you
are quite likely related to all of them.
You and some of the others also took the 25 marker test. On that test you
had no 25/25 matches with any of the others. You had 3 matches at a
Genetic Distance of 1, which would be a 24/25 match, and you had a Genetic
Distance of 2 with 3 other men. Your results indicate that a mutation has
occurred in your line, and you belong to a branch off that original line -
a branch that presented specific mutations that characterizes it.
*************
char's note: I'm sure this cleared everything up...:)
He's talking about Barton Coats and Notley Coats lines of SC....I really
believe the Coats in SC are related to a Barton group somewhere....:)
----Original Message Follows----
From: Rob Barton <rhbarton(a)visi.net>
Reply-To: fast-help(a)insurer.com
To: coats(a)hotmail.com, Terry Barton <terry(a)bartonsite.org>
Subject: BARTONs in Frederick County
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:15:45 -0400
I have been aware if this line for some time but know of no researcher
working the line. The names of the children appear to match two known
lineages, the most likely is the BARTON group in Dauphin County, PA (some in
northern York) part of which is Doug CHURCH's line. The names Samuel &
Isaac also appear in the line of Lewis BARTON, of Baltimore County. Part of
his line appeared in Caswell County, NC (once part of Orange Co.) in the
later part of the 18th century and were located in an area where a lot of
folks went further south, into SC. Go to RootsWeb's Frederick Co. site and
do a search for the BARTON surname in Frederick. I did a quick search and
found several group sheets posted by someone that is not related but had
the data. What is there may be of some use.
http://www.mdgenweb.org/
Rob Barton
Thank you Os Cresson for yet again sharing your knowledge of the
Coats/Coates family resources. I appreciate you taking the time to
confirm what I suspected was the book's subject and saving me a few
dollars on my book order (always grateful for saved $$).
Susan
note to list - I forgot to mention that the 4 books mentioning the
Coates surname were -
"Thomas Coates, Eng. to Pa, 1683, &; the Coates fam. in Phila City Dir,
1785-1901" 43p.
"Coates Genealogy of Moses & Susanna Coates, who settled in Penn in 1717
& their descendants" by T. Coates 319p. / 1906
"Swedish Holsteins in America 1644 to 1892" by A. M. Holstein 305p./ 1892
"Coates Family Memorials & Recollections; or Aunt Mary's Patchwork" by
Mary Coates 171+34p. / 1885
Is anyone on the list familiar with the last book (1885 by Mary Coates)
and could let me know which Coates family it covers? I have found that
although many of the earlier published books did not have the advantage
of the internet they did have access to family members who could share
their first hand knowledge of family history and documentation.
Thanks,
Susan
osborn cresson wrote:
>Susan, yes you are probably right about the Higginson Books offering
>since the full title of the monograph about Thomas Coates and Beulah
>Jacques (by Henry T. Coates, 1897) is "Thomas Coates who removed from
>England to the Province of Pennsylvania, 1683". It is only 27 pages so
>the extra pages are probably a copy of city directories as the listing
>suggests.
>Os Cresson
>
>
>
The second link below contains a book and on page60 and 107, it mentions a
Charles Courts and William Courts...
Also I've noticed in the early records of MD there is also a 1600 William
Couts...might be two different lines or the name may have gotten changed
some how...just don't know at this point...
But I'm sure Barton Coats in SC points to a Barton family connection, you'll
notice in that first link, there are several Barton but other
surnames....they being named after their grandfather...also notice how many
marriages some of these folks had...
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Terry Barton" <terry(a)bartons.org>
To: "Charlotte Coats" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
CC: <fast-help(a)insurer.com>
Subject: RE: Coats DNA project results
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:02:31 -0400
Char, I didn't hear you say Charles Co or St Marys Co MD in the original
discussion. That is likely the William Barton family. He was a very
important leader in the 17th Century and his family seemed to have a
tendency for girls. I believe they have daughtered out.
We don't have good info about them on our site. Here a couple of links:
http://pweb.netcom.com/~fzsaund/barton.htmlhttp://www.usgennet.org/family/smoot/book/056.html
Terry
Susan, yes you are probably right about the Higginson Books offering
since the full title of the monograph about Thomas Coates and Beulah
Jacques (by Henry T. Coates, 1897) is "Thomas Coates who removed from
England to the Province of Pennsylvania, 1683". It is only 27 pages so
the extra pages are probably a copy of city directories as the listing
suggests.
Os Cresson
Something else I had been searching for that I thought might help others
researching Philadelphia Coates by being archived in the list. Os
Cresson was kind enough to let me know his Coates Family Burial listings
had come from the Historical Society of PA so I contacted them hoping to
obtain copies of possible family burials at a minimal cost.
***********
Ms. McIntyre:
The 'COATS' family material you refer to in your e-mail, are
unpublished 'scrapbooks.' They are simply two separate volumes dealing
with the same family. Ph 39A would also be unpublished material. The
pages vary, the GEN scrapbooks are very thick, oversize volumes,
consisting of many pages generally.
Since we do not do any research except on a 'fee-basis,' you may
wish to go to our website at: www.hsp.org <http://www.hsp.org/> to the
'on-line services' or 'library services,' then click onto the
'Research-by-Mail Service.' There you will see a form which gives the
instructions on how to carry out research from 'off-site,' as well as
gives you the fees or costs for research. Printout the form, fill it in,
send the required fee and a cover letter explaining your research and
your request will be processed.
Regrettably, we do not do 'inter-library loans.' This is a
'non-circulating' library. Nothing leaves the premises. Most of the GEN
volumes however, were microfilmed years ago by The Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-Day Saints, or the 'Mormon' church, and you can obtain
microfilmed copies from the local 'Family History Library,' located near
you. They are generally located in one of the local Mormon churches, and
are open to the public. The material can be ordered from the large
family history library in Salt Lake City, Utah, which will come to your
local church library, from which you can make photocopies from the film.
Best of luck in your researching pursuits.
Sincerely,
Head of Reference Services
Historical Society of Pennsylvania
-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
Coats Family Burial Ground
Date:
Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:38:39 -0400
From:
Susan McIntyre <sbmc2(a)chartermi.net> <mailto:sbmc2@chartermi.net>
To:
library(a)hsp.org <mailto:library@hsp.org>
According to your library's online catalog you are in possession of
several publications I would appreciate learning about. They are listed
as...
Coats family burying ground index : third and Brown Sts. Philadelphia,
Pa / Compiled by Mrs. D.J. Pontarelli
Call No.: Gen Co20:2
Location: Closed Stacks
Local Notes: Acc. 1976
Coats family burying ground : third and Brown Sts., Philadelphia, Pa
1732-1848
Call No. Gen Co20:1
Location: Closed Stacks
Local Notes: Ph 39A
I have been looking for a while for several books that are no longer in
print and have discovered some Coates Genealogy books being offered at
Higginson Books http://www.higginsonbooks.com/
They are having a 25% off sale until the end of August if anyone is
interested in adding to their library.
One question that I hope the list can answer - the book titled "Thomas
Coates, Eng. to PA., 1683 & the Coates from in Phila. City Dir.,
1785-1901". 43 pages. I am assuming that it is about the Thomas Coates
(1659-1719) who married Beulah Jacques, can anyone on the list tell me
if I am right or if it is about Thomas Coates (1682-1772) - both are
born England died PA.
Thanks,
Susan
http://www.alibris.com
Alibris is also another good place for finding out of print books, although
their selection of genealogy books isn't that complete...
Char
Hello,
This is my first posting to this site as I would like to know if anyone is researching the Coats surname in Belfast area, Ireland, c1810+.
I am specifically looking for Margaret COATS, d/o Samuel COATS, Upper Falls, Belfast area, Ireland. In 1829 she married James CRAWFORD.
I also have the 1826 Tithe surname list for Lower Falls, Ballymurphy area of Belfast and found these Coats included:
Wm. COATS; Jno. COATS; and Sam COATS.
I would be delighted to hear from anyone with relevant information. Thanks for your time. Alice Cochrane, Alberta, Canada