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List; Just to kind of get the party started, I wanted to post SOMETHING
to get some discussion going on the list. Wife and I just got back from
Bermuda, where I got really ill for about 24 hrs, I think from drinking
the water, but of course I drank a lot of alcohol too. I thought it
might kill all the viruses and bacteria. Ha! We met a visiting
Scotchman at the Hog Penny Saloon, and he told me that Coats without the
e was definitely Scottish, whereas Coates is the "English Derivation".
Whatever. Then also, having some time on my hands, I read something I'd
printed out from GenealogybyDNA, about blood types. Since my DNA is R1a,
relatively rare, and my blood type is B+, I thought I'd try to see if
there was any correlation. Well, the map which had been posted on
GenealogybyDNA showed 0 to 5% type B blood types in the US, whereas, in
Eurasia, that is India north to the Ural Mountains in the Soviet Union
the occurrence is 20 to 30%. All excited, I called my "Coats Cousin",
John Henry Coats, Ph.D. in molecular biology, to tell him about this
exciting new find. First thing he asked is, "how do you know your dad
had the same blood type?" All I know is that my dad lost a good friend
in WW2, and gave blood at every opportunity. After several donations, he
was told "we have enough of your type". Also, after looking at a globe,
something I haven't done for years, I see it is just a hop skip and a
jump from the Ural Mountains in Northern Russia to Finland, Sweden, and
then to Norway, where those R1as became Vikings, invented the
longboats, and proceeded to rape and pillage their way through England,
Ireland, France, (where they became Normans), and to northern Italy. Is
anyone else out there interested in any of this?
John
I am but it is sooooo elusive....all you need is one child to go the other
direction and you would have an exception to the rule...
We're all sons of Adam and daughters of Eve.....:) including the Arabs...
Are there any known family histories back that far?
If I'm not mistaken John, it was your genealogy in the info of Neva's, which
showed your line going clear back to Clovis, first king of the Franks and
the Roman Emporor or Governor Claudius....do you know how any of that info
was put together?
Char
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From: John Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COATES-L] Scottish Coats and Blood types
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:22:45 -0500
List; Just to kind of get the party started, I wanted to post SOMETHING to
get some discussion going on the list. Wife and I just got back from
Bermuda, where I got really ill for about 24 hrs, I think from drinking the
water, but of course I drank a lot of alcohol too. I thought it might kill
all the viruses and bacteria. Ha! We met a visiting Scotchman at the Hog
Penny Saloon, and he told me that Coats without the e was definitely
Scottish, whereas Coates is the "English Derivation". Whatever. Then also,
having some time on my hands, I read something I'd printed out from
GenealogybyDNA, about blood types. Since my DNA is R1a, relatively rare, and
my blood type is B+, I thought I'd try to see if there was any correlation.
Well, the map which had been posted on GenealogybyDNA showed 0 to 5% type B
blood types in the US, whereas, in Eurasia, that is India north to the Ural
Mountains in the Soviet Union the occurrence is 20 to 30%. All excited, I
called my "Coats Cousin", John Henry Coats, Ph.D. in molecular biology, to
tell him about this exciting new find. First thing he asked is, "how do you
know your dad had the same blood type?" All I know is that my dad lost a
good friend in WW2, and gave blood at every opportunity. After several
donations, he was told "we have enough of your type". Also, after looking at
a globe, something I haven't done for years, I see it is just a hop skip and
a jump from the Ural Mountains in Northern Russia to Finland, Sweden, and
then to Norway, where those R1as became Vikings, invented the longboats,
and proceeded to rape and pillage their way through England, Ireland,
France, (where they became Normans), and to northern Italy. Is anyone else
out there interested in any of this?
John
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Sion Coates shows up in this ledger...
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From: janethunter703(a)aol.com
Reply-To: JOB-L(a)rootsweb.com
To: JOB-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [JOB] Greene Co. TN Store Ledger 1815-1820
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:01:03 EDT
Hello Everyone,
I thought you all might want to take a look at the General Store Ledger of
David Deaderick 1815-1820 in Greenville, Greene Co. TN, just posted by James
Slone here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jimslone/ledger/index.htm
I didn't see any Jobe's or any of my Cocke Co. or Greene Co. names, but
there
might be something of interest to Jobe researchers that I don't recognize..
FYI, apparently in the hands of a Fine descendant is a ledger of a similar
store of Peter Fine in Cocke Co in the late 1700s, which I assume is
similar.
Best Regards,
Janet Hunter
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From: Steve <stevens803(a)earthlink.net>
Reply-To: Steve <stevens803(a)earthlink.net>
To: coats(a)hotmail.com
Subject: South Carolina Coats
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:15:55 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Hi,
I found your Coats pages on rootsquest.com. Yesterday, I attended our
yearly Coats reunion in Horry County, South Carolina. I have been working
on a family tree and have the Coats back to John J. Coats born 1829. The
tree is listed on the following site: http://home.earthlink.net/~stevens803
. You are welcome to any information on these pages. Do you know of any
Coats in the Dillon, SC area? I still have some leads to track down. I
maybe able to find John's partents. Thanks for any help.
Steve Stevens
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From: hndharmon(a)cs.com
To: COATS(a)HOTMAIL.COM
Subject: SARAH COATS
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:54:56 EDT
HI, I AM TRYING TO FIND INFO ON MARY SARAH COATS. SHE WAS MARRIED TO REV.
GEORGE MCNEIL. I THINK SHE HAD A BROTHER NAMED THOMAS BUT NIT SURE. SHE IS
SUPPOSE TO BE THE DAUGHTER OF A HENRY OR NATHANIEL COATS. IF YOU HAVE ANY
INFO
ABOUT THEM, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ANY TIME FROM 1720 TO 1800.
THANK YOU,
HELEN MCNEAL
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FYI....if you recall one of the Marms in SC was a Dunker...now, I've seen
them associated with both the Brothren group but that Brothren group was
also associated or refered to as some type of Baptists...
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From: "Baldwin, A Ferne." <AFBaldwin(a)manchester.edu>
Reply-To: BRETHREN-L(a)rootsweb.com
To: BRETHREN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: [BRE] Sears Family - Late 1700s Rowan NC
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:45:06 -0500
Just one bit of info from The Brethren in the Carolinas by Sappington
which says "For example, in Rowan County the Court of Pleas and Quarter
Sessions in February, 1780, ordered ' that Nicholas Leatherman, John
Seares, and Xtian Leatherman Dunkers in the same District (Hopewell) be
released from a 12 fold tax to a 3 fold tax '" These Dunkers were
members of the Ewarry congregation, for the Leathermans were neighbors
of Jacob Stutzman"
The Footnote citation may be important for further research... Fries and
others, Records of the Moravians, III, 1206-1208. Clark, State Records,
XXIV, 204,434, Rowan County Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions,
February term, 1780,
David Eller in his "The Brethren in the Western Ohio Valley "
unpublished Dissertation says p 99 John Sears, who claimed land on
the Green River, sold out in 1802' Deed Book I:34"
Later in this same book... in a discussion of the very early churches of
Southern Indiana he says " William and Abraham Kern were brothers.
David Sears, who married Anna Kern, was a brother in law. William Kern
was married to Susan Sears, brother (sister?) of David. All are buried
in the White River, now Old Union, cemetery. David and Susan Sears were
also native of Rowan County, North Carolina. Their parents John Sears
(c1740-1836) and Katherine Conrad (c 1780-1822) may have been associated
with Jacob Stutzman's Uwharrie congregation....David Sears also may have
lived in Harrison County before immigrating to Monroe and Lawrence
counties. He is listed in the 1820 census for Monroe County, between 26
and 45 years of age, with six children under age fifteen. (all Indiana)
Note this footnote.. W. Wayne Smith, "The Sears Family of Rowan Co.
N.X., Nicholas Co., Ky.. Indiana and Missouri," typewritten MS, 1942:
History and Genealogy Department, Ft. Wayne Allen County Public Library.
David Sears will was probated in 1863; Lawrence County, Will Book A:233.
Well maybe this is more than you wanted to know and It surely doesn't
answer you original question , but maybe something will be useful.
Ferne Baldwin
Manchester College
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I am looking for information about the Coates family of Philadelphia and
Wilmington DE...
Specifically Gideon Coates - his son Paul
Coates ( who lived in
Capetown SA for around 10 years) and his son H. Crawford
Coates (my grandfather)..
Thanks in advance
Anne Mayea
FYI...thanks Joe...
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From: "J.Coates" <grampajoec(a)planetcomm.net>
To: "Charlotte Coats" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: bits& pieces
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:31:38 -0400
Char- the following appeared in the Rootsweb.com Alabama Marriage records:
Daniel P. Coats married Nancy Neal 2/17/1825 in Tuscaloosa, Al.
Richard P. Coats married Elinor Leopard
2/3/1825 in Tuscaloosa, Al.
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W. Coale ? married Penolope Hammonds
11/25/1824 in Lauderdale County, Al.
nufsaid-grampajoec
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Subject: Re: William Coats of Georgia who married SArah M. partridge
1/22/1824
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 12:26:55 EDT
I am not a genealogist and was just curious to see what could find out.
I went online with a google search and got a confirmation of a marriage
between a William Coats and A Sarah W. Partridge (only middle initial
difference with Bible inscription) on the exact date of January 22, 1824.
The information was from Wilkes County, GA, vols. 1-2.
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Might this be William of Jefferson County?? I've not contacted him yet, to
see where in GA
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Subject: William Coats of Georgia who married SArah M. partridge 1/22/1824
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 23:08:45 EDT
I am in possession of a 'family bible' that has the ink inscription
of the marriage of William Coats to Sarah M. Partridge on
January 22, 1824.
Also listed are the births of their children:
Martha (?middle name illegible?) Coats b. October 24, 1824
Sarah Elizabeth Coats b. August 16, 1826
(?first name illegible?) Coats, b. October 25, 1828
William James Coats, b. June 22, 1831
(? first name illegible?) Coats, b. October 1, 1833
Written in pencil is the inscription that
"William Coats died June (possibly, January) 12, 1888."
Let me know if this information is of interest to you.
I am particularly intrigued by Sarah Elizabeth Coats,
for she scrawled in ink the words:
"Sarah Elizabeth Coats
born the 16th of Agust 1826 13 years old
the 16th of August"
I received this Bible from my uncle Donald Whitten (now deceased)
who was given the bible from the estate (most likely) of a Lena Finch
of Elgin Texas. Her father's name may have been 'Rivers.'
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Would love to here from anyone that these names fit in to their tree
Jane Coates born Portaferry
Eldest of four children of Henry Coates and Ann McMurray
Married John Cole and lived in Clones and died in 1892
They had 7 Children
John Martin Cole 1858 - 1915
Henry Coates Cole 1859 - 1875
Robert Bell Cole 1861 - 1955
David Graeme Cole 1864 - 1941
Elizabeth Boyd Cole 1865 - 1938
William Newall Cole 1868 - ?
James McMurray Cole 1871 - ?
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From: "J.Coates" <grampajoec(a)planetcomm.net>
To: "Charlotte Coats " <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: bits & pieces
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 23:08:34 -0400
State Library of Florida- Florida Militia records show both a William Coats
and another William Coates serving during the Seminole Indian Wars.
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From: "J.Coates" <grampajoec(a)planetcomm.net>
To: "Charlotte Coats Siercks" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Coatswm.doc
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:18:40 -0400
Dear Cousins:
Here's what I have from all the family papers I have inherited. This
information has been in my family as long as I can remember. Since my
mother knew her grandfather, John II, we believe everything is basically
accurate. I have other papers, but always found this most interesting.
Among other things I have John II's obit and a copy of a newspaper published
during a Missouri centennial celebration about his exploits as a scout in
the Civil War.
My mother would say to him: "Grandpa, what did you do in the war?" And he
would answer: "Well, daughter, the South called me a scout, but the North
called me a spy!!". If anyone is interested in reading it I'll be happy to
forward a copy.
Our earliest notes begin with John Baker of Tennessee who married Josephine
Allison - no dates available. Their daughter, Nancy Baker married The Rev.
William Coats: So . . .
Rev. William Coats born about 1764 in South Carolina married Nancy Baker.
They had 15 children (I won't list them all here as you all have the names).
Their sixth child (earlier I said fifth, but that was a mistake) was John
(whom we call John I.) John I was born 10 Nov. 1800 in Smith County,
Tennessee. He died 13 September 1848 in Callaway County, Mo.. He married
Sally (aka Sahara, aka Sarah) on August 16, 1821. Sally was the daughter of
Hezikiah Smith from Virginia and Thomas Smith . No date available for
Sally's birth or death. John I and Sally had 10 children: The only ones we
have found are James, Thomas, William, Mary, Nancy, Mattie, and John II (my
g-grandfather).
The following is John I's obit:
"Missouri Telegraph: Aug. 25, 1848
"Distressing accident on Wednesday morning as a number of our citizens were
setting out for Columbia, upon invitation of the Sons of Temperance of that
place. Mr. John Coats was thrown from his buggy about a mile and a half
from town, and had his leg broken near the ankle, the bone being forced
through the skin, and protruding some two or three inches.
"This casualty greatly marred the enjoyment of the members of Fulton
Division Sons of Temperance, in their visit to the brethern in Columbia.
About forty went up on the occasion and were highly entertained to a variety
of excellent addresses."
"Missouri Telegraph, Friday, September 15, 1848
"We are under the painful necessity of recording the death of Mr. John
Coats who died on Wednesday morning, the 13th inst. At his residence in
Fulton. We noticed that three weeks ago Mr. Coats had been thrown from his
buggy and received a compound fracture of the leg above the ankle. The
whole limb below the knee seems to have been greatly injured, though not
externally apparent, absorption of one of the principal arteries took place,
producing excessive hemorrhage which could only be restrained by the
tourniquet. The third occurrence of this hemorrhage, which was on the
morning of Wednesday was too much for nature, and beneath its exhausting
influence he calmly and placidly parted with earth's dearest ties, and
without a struggle resigned his waiting spirit into the hands of his
Redeemer God.
"Mr. Coats was born in Smith County, Tennessee in the year 1800 and
emigrated with his parents to this County in June 1817, where the family
settled in what has been called Coats Prairie, and was consequently one of
the oldest residents of our County. He was a man of great energy and
perseverance, and bore the toils and adversities of life with cheerful
fortitude. In all the domestic relations he was honored and loved, and his
bereaved family have but one consolation in his loss, that through the
merits of that redemption which he meekly sought he has been admitted to the
society of the Saints of Light, and enjoys a blissful repose, in the rest
that remaineth for the children of God.
"Society mourns him as a useful member, and the Order of the Sons of
Temperance in this place deeply feel the affliction imposed by his death. He
was a most devoted and worthy member, and the circumstances which caused his
death, make it a matter of peculiar sorrow to his brothrern of the Order.
He was going forth in what he considered to be his duty as a Son of
Temperance, in company of many others to encourage the good cause he had so
ardently espoused, by uniting in procession and other interesting ceremonies
with the neighboring division in Columbia, and thus literally fell in the
path of duty. The dispensations of an All-Wise Providence seemed to say
enough, come to the higher spheres of Love, Purity and Fidelity.
"The following is the action of the Divas on the mournful occasion: Funeral
tomorrow at 10:00 AM."
(Same citation in September 22, 1848 paper.)
Now we come to John II.
John II was born 26 June 1843 in Callaway County, Mo. (He was five years
old when his father died.) He died 16 June 1925 in Chanute, Kansas at the
home of his son, my grandfather, Ernest Edwards Coats.
John was married to Elizabeth Frances Garrett, born Feb. 13, 1844 and died 6
March 1925 in Vernon County, Mo.
Elizabeth was the daughter of Thomas H. Garrett (born 26 Nov. 1811, died 9
Feb. 1865) He was married to Leticia Clark Parish (born Johnson Co., Mo. 3
July 1816, died 22 July 1899.)
Thomas H. Garrett was the son of James Garrett, born 4 Sept. 1789, died 17
Feb. 1846. Jas. Garrett was married 8 April 1810 to Elizabeth Sims, born 3
Oct. 1792, died Dec. 1862. They had the following offspring: Joe, Robert,
Thomas, Powhattan (also called Poet), Mary M. Perry, Susan M. Thompson,
William, James, George, and one unnamed.
We have been advised by some researchers that Eliz. Sims was a direct
descendent of Pocahontas and John Rolfe - there are any number of their
descendents named Powhattan in honor of the chief. (At a Mormon library in
Texas I saw her name associated with this, but I do not have the record any
more).
O.K. John and Elizabeth (and I have their wedding pictures on tin type) and
pictures of the Coats home and barn in Missouri) had the following children:
Charlie -dwi; William - dwi; (both died from scarlet fever the same day ages
5 and 7. (Formerly I said smallpox - mistake! - it was scarlet fever.
Henry, born January 1868, died May 1885;
O.M.R. born January 1880 in Kansas City, Mo., died 254 Sept. 1924 -
Marshall Walter, born 10 Oct. 1874 6 miles S.E. Kansas City, Mo. On Blue
River, Jackson County, died 22 Mar. 1953, He married Ardeal Cunningham.
Their children were John Marshall who married Janet Gump, and Jerry Lee. (I
don't think this is the right spelling for Jerry Lee).
Ernest Edwards, born 21 March 1877, in Kansas City, Mo., died 15 March 1934
in Chanute, Kansas. He married Artemissia Foote, born 4 Sept. 1884, in
Carthage, Missouri and died 15 September 1969 in Longview, Texas.
Ernest and Artie had the following children: Novella Juanita, born 17 Dec.
1905, died 17
In Longview, Texas. Helen Ernestine, born 4 March 1908, married to James M.
Pickell (both deceased); Ronald Edouard, born 30 Aug. 1911 in Chanute,
Kansas died 1996. married to Juanita Charlotte Schaal They had two
children, Betty Lou and Robert Dean. Both children still living.
Billy Richard, born 12 Aug. 1923, married to Wanda Fay Gardner in Chanute,
Ks. Both still living. No children.
Novella married Tom Davis Boydston Jr. and had me, Sue-Ann on 31 Dec. 1930,
in Chanute, Kansas. I was, however, reared and educated in Tulsa, Ok..
Novella and Tom were divorced about 1934.
I married Richard Frank Taub, 25 Jan. 1969 and have one child, Christopher
Leighson Taub, born 4 Dec. 1969. Richard and I were divorced in 1974.
Richard is now deceased.
Now, back to John II. The following are copies of letters written by my
great-uncle, Marshall Walter Coats to his sister-in-law my grandmother,
Artemissia (Artie) Coats, widow of Ernest Edwards Coats, my grandfather. I
have the original, but it is written in pencil on tablet paper and is very
faint and delicate.
(By the way, all my life I heard my mother and aunt say that they were
related to "the Dukes and the Marmadukes"). Then they would laugh!!)
Route 2 Nevada MO
May 14th 1945
Dear Artie
Your letter of the 11th at hand today. Glad to hear from you, and that
Billy (Note: Billy Richard Coats who was in service during World War II)
had come to visit you. Have had no further word from John since I wrote you.
Nor have I had a letter from Janet since the last of Feb. in answer to
that letter I told her I might come to visit her and Jerri Lea. I guess she
don't want me to come or she would have written before this.
I am glad to know that the war is as near over in Europe as it seems to be
but I suppose by the accounts in the papers that there will be a lot for the
Allies, including our Boys to do there yet for some time to come.
If I get rid of my horses I will try to run down there for a short visit if
I keep putting it off. Some of these days some of us will not be here to
make or receive visitors. I have 4 head of horses on hand including a colt
about a month old (saddle stock) the only kind that is in demand here. A
man came 300 miles to see my Tennessee Walking horse last Friday. He was
going to visit a relative in Polk County, said he might stop and get him as
he came back. He liked him - a beautiful dapple grey. I bought him in
Joplin March 223rd also a spotted bay mare which fouled a beautiful filly
colt the 16th of April. It goes saddle gaite playing in the pasture here a
cheap horse tool.
Sold a pony last Friday made a nice profit on it. Have to stay home most of
the time so as not miss any buyers. When I get sold out I think I will stay
out a while "kinder" hard to do when I run on to one I think there is a
profit in. Can't do anything else - not able to work anymore.
We have an unusually late season here. Too much rain. No one has hardly
any farming done this the third year of late season straight. However last
year finished up good had good crops? Will have late pears this year, I
guess, but no early ones. There is not a pear on the Garher trees (the
early variety). I want to be at home this year at pear time. Last year
someone stole all the crop but 10 bushels while I was in the hospital. I
enclose some data of the Coats and Garrets families hope it may be something
like what you want before we had the sale at the old place. Pa had me bring
his trunk to his bedside and he tool nearly all the papers and letters out
and burned them or rather made me do it. I so wanted to keep them but he
saw that they were burned.
Well I guess this is all this time Artie. Write as often as you can. I
don't get many letters except business letters. The enclosed $5 is for
whatever you want to use it for.
With love to all. Marshall.
(STARTING WITH MY FATHER JOHN COATS - Note: This is John II)
John Coats was born June 26, 1843 in Callaway County Mo. His father's name
was John Coats who was killed by a runaway team while Sheriff at Callaway
County Mo. My great grandfather William Coats came to Mo. with Daniel Boone
from Kentucky. Settled at Coats' Prairie in Callaway Co. Mo. He was a
Baptist Preacher and built the first church in that locality.
My father's mother's name was Sarah Smith Coats. Don't know where they were
married. My grandmother Coats became a widow when Pa was about 5 years old
and moved to Johnson County Mo. and lived with her son in law and daughter,
Mr. & Mrs. C. P. Phillips in S.E. Johnson County Mo. Pa and mother
Elizabeth Frances Garrett (native of Johnson Co. Mo.) were married in that
County in 1866 or 67.
Mother's birth date Feb. 13, 1844. Mother died March 6m, 1924. Pa died
June 16, 1925 (you know about that).
Their first child Charley Henry Coats born Jan. 1868. About two years later
William Coats born and two years later Thomas Coats born. These two
children both died the same day of scarlet fever aged 7 and 5 years
(respectfuly) (sic)
Marshal Walter Coats born Oct. 10, 1874 6 miles S.E. of Kansas City Mo. on
Blue River. Ernest Edwards Coats born March 21, 1877 in Kansas City Mo. He
was named for a neighbor young lady Ernie Edwards, but later changed to
Ernie Edwards but later changed to Ernest.
O.M.R. Omer Coats born January 1880 6 miles S.E. of Kansas City Mo. Jackson
Co. MO.
Frank Garrett Coats born June 14 1884 4 miles east of Nevada, Vernon Co. Mo.
died Aug. 17th 1922. O.M.R. died Sept. 29 1924. Charley Henry Coats died
in May 1885.
Mother's maiden name Elizabeth Frances Garrett daughter of Thomas and
Leticia Clark Garrett born in Johnson County Mo. Mother's parents came to
Johnson County Mo. from North Carolina. Grandmother Garrett's maiden name
was Letecia Clark Parish. There were a large family of Garretts who came
from North Carolina to Johnson County Mo. They all settled in practically
the same neighborhood before the Civil War (several years before). Aunt Lou
Phillips (Mrs. C. P. Phillips, Pa's sister, had a history of the Coats
family running back 150 years or more and we had a copy of it, but I don't
know what became of it.
I have told you all I remember of the family as it appears to my memory at
present. If anything else comes to my mind I will make a note of it and
send it to you.
Marshall W. Coats.
"Note:
"As to nationality of the Coats family, Pa said they were of Irish and
Scotch extraction.
"As to the Garretts and Parishes they were originally from the early
settlers of Virginia. As I understand it with a mixture of Indian blood in
the Parish family to the extent that an Indian in the Cherokee Nation where
Pa and mother once lived a short time told mother he could get her an Indian
head right to Indian Land. She told him she did not want it (as she was
sick most of the time while there). She had all of that country she cared
to have. Her conception of the Cherokee Nation was that it was a fine
country for men and dogs but a Hell of a place for women and horses from the
North."
"Another Note:
"My mother's paternal grandfather's name was James Garrett. His wife was
Elizabeth Sims Garrett. All from North Carolina to Johnson County Mo. I
was on the old James Garrett Farm last September as I came back from the
Columbia Hospital, stayed overnight with Alvin and Maud Thompson Kendrick.
Maud is a cousin of mother's. There were a lot of the Garretts, sons of
James and Elizabeth Sims Garrett who came to Missouri all about the same
time.
Wash Garrett:
Joe Garrett;
Robert Garrett;
Thomas Garrett;
Powhattan (Poet) Garrett
and two daughters that I know of, Mary Garrett Perry and Susan Garrett
Thompson
William and another son of James and Elizabeth Sims Garrett stayed in North
Carolina don't remember the other name.
MWC.
FURTHER NOTES FROM MARSHALL:
"Names and ages of ancestors of E. E. Coats (Note: Also some of Marshall's)
1. Paternal Grandfather John Coats killed by accident while Sheriff of
Callaway County, Mo., age about 50 years.
2. Paternal Grandmother Sarah Coats lived on a Farm most of her life, died
at the age of 84 years. All of her children lived to the age of 70 or more
years except one who died in infancy, not named. No insanity of suicides in
the family.
3. Maternal Grandfather, Thomas Garrett, farmer, did of small pox about the
age of 50 years.
4. Maternal Grandmother, Letitia Garrett. Lived on farm most of her life.
Died at the age of 75 years. War rather weakly the late 30 years of her
life, last sickness Flux. Mind sound.
Names of Paternal uncles and aunts
James Coats, Thomas Coats, William Coats, Mary Coats, Nancy Coats, Mattie
Coats. All lived to be 70 years or more, unless Thomas Coats might have
been younger. No suicides or insanity that I have heard of. Am sure there
were none.
Maternal:
James Garrett died age about 30 years, died suddenly. Might have been
accidental poison. William Garrett about 20 years was lost in the Civil
War, 1864. Mary Garrett died about the age of 22, never was strong
physically but sound mentally. Virginia Garrett at about 40 years of age
contracted some form of TB. Sound mentally. George Garret died at Fulton,
Mo. Hospital for the insane about 1885 or 86. Age about 40 years. Was
insane 20 years or more. Cause of insanity presumed to be a love affair.
Never was violent while at the hospital, but would become so when he
returned home which was tried several times. E. E. Coats father had
something like epilepsy at the age of 25 to 35 years, but was permanently
cured of whatever it was. He would know when the spells were coming on,
and when alone would have time to find the best available place. As I
remember they did not last very long. He lived to 82 years of age.
E. E. Coats mother was a strong woman. Never sick to amount to much, but
worried quite a lot about things that could not be helped. We were afraid
at one time she might be in danger of insanity, but she seemed to get
entirely over it and lived in good health to 80 years of age. E. E. Coats
has always been of a rather nervous temperament, a very hard worked - always
seemed to want to do more work in everything he was doing than anyone else.
On the job all ways worked too hard. Very quick physically and mentally a
good scholar at school. Always ahead of his classes. Good disposition made
friends with most acquaintances.
S/M. W. Coats, RFD 2, Nevada, Mo., Brother of E. E. Coats."
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From: "J.Coates" <grampajoec(a)planetcomm.net>
To: "Charlotte Coats " <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: obits
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:28:22 -0500
Char- noticed these in obit website yesterday and thought someone might want
to read them due to their age etc. whatever!!!!!
Stanley A. Coates, age 90, resided in Santa Maria, Ca., obit dated 11/13/03.
Helen G. Coats, age 82; resided in Oxnard, Ca,; obit dated 10/31/03.
William T. Coats,Jr., age 85; resided in New Orleans,La- previously from
McKinney, Tx.; Obit dated 4/15/03.
cheers--grampajoec
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Hey Ya'll,
I have news and am hoping that what little I have will strike a chord somewhere!
As it turns out, on my maternal side of the tree, I have discovered another Coates ancestor but I have very little on her. Via the SLACK family of Scioto Co.OH and Grayson Co. TX, my mother descends from an Abrahamus or Abraham Slack, b. 1662 Wirksworth, Derbyshire, d. 19 July 1701 same place, who married--Mary or Maria COATES b. 1666 Wirksworth, Derbyshire. This marriage took place on 13 Jan 1687 at Wirksworth.
Beyond this, I don't know a thing about this Mary/Maria, but am hoping that perhaps someone on the list has had some experience with COATES families in Derbyshire.
I did note that there was a 16 Dec 1661 royal "Donation list"(similar to a "forced gift") for Wirksworth, where these names pop up:
Anthony Coats(Cromford)
Eleanor Coates(Wirksworth)
Henry Coates(no parish/village given).
Maybe these are related to Maria and maybe they aren't.
If anyone has any ideas/leads, please drop me a line. Not having satisifactorily resolved the ancestry of my Wm Coats of Rowan Co. NC, now I am faced with a wholly "new" Coates line! Maybe my luck will be better the second time around!<g>
Regards to all,
Larry
This by the way, seems to cover Coates-Coats from Johnson County NC although
there are other bits and pieces of info there...he also seems to have quite
a few references to records ...
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From: "Charlotte Coats" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COATES-L] Stanton's book
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:04:58 -0800
A cousin sent me a copy of Stanton's book...
Seems we had some who was wondering about the info in it...so I've put or
started to put some of it on the web....it only has part of the index
up...and I'm not sure this is a complete index...but if anyone is interested
in the info beyond the index...please let me know - which pages etc...and
I'll scan them an add them to the album...
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287288491
Char
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A cousin sent me a copy of Stanton's book...
Seems we had some who was wondering about the info in it...so I've put or
started to put some of it on the web....it only has part of the index
up...and I'm not sure this is a complete index...but if anyone is interested
in the info beyond the index...please let me know - which pages etc...and
I'll scan them an add them to the album...
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287288491
Char
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