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We have a new Coats member in the DNA project...he has just ordered a kit...
We still have three kits that have not been returned to the lab yet...
and we have one 37 marker test which is at the lab and has an approx return
date of 11/20/04
Anyone else??
If you are on our list and you are male with a surname of Coates, Coate,
Coats or a variation and they are getting numerous....:) please consider
participating in our DNA project...this is one more piece of the
puzzle....so see where you fit....:)
If you are not a male with a surname Coates, Coate or Coats or a variation
but you have a Coates, Coate or Coast cousin or uncle...that would work as
well...
I look forward to seeing the list of participants grow...:)
We have about 20 or 30 dollars in our DNA fund...but I'm sure if we needed
funding for someone, that would be covered....so anyone that needs a *grant*
is welcome to contact me and we'll work it out...
Have a great Sunday!!
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: "J.Coates" <grampajoec(a)planetcomm.net>
To: "Charlotte Coats <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: bits & pieces- Coats in CW .
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 00:46:50 -0400
Char- these are Coats who served in 4th Fla. Infantry, Co "C" during Civil
War:
P.G. Coats, Pvt., wounded @ Miss Ridge, Tn. 12/27/1863; mustered out
5/12/1865.
Edward B. Coats,Pvt., wounded @ Dallas,Ga. on 5/28/1864; mustered out
5/9/1865.
William W. Coats- mustered out 5/26/1865.
Phillip E. Coats, Pvt., no other info on him.
thasallfernow-grampajoec
----Original Message Follows----
From: "J.Coates" <grampajoec(a)planetcomm.net>
To: "Charlotte Coats <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Vicksburg Parole Index-Coats,Coates
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:02:16 -0400
The following Coats,Coates are shown on the Vicksburg Parole Index of
Confederate soldiers paroled after the CW was over at Vicksburg,Ms.:
Hamet Coates, Pvt., 46th Ms Infantry, Co. "I"; paroled in the field.
George W. Coats, Pvt., 46th Ms. Infantry, Co. "F"; paroled in the field.
J.A. Coats,Pvt., 20th Al. Infantry,Co."G"; paroled @ Marine Hospital.
Thomas H. Coats,Pvt., 7th Ms. Infantry, Co."F"; paroled in field.
___________________
Unmarked grave:
A.J. Coats, Died 1/24/1891; served in Co. "D", 32nd Al. Infantry; buried in
Lamar County, Tx in unmarked grave.
____________________
Medal of Honor recipient:
Jefferson Coates, Sgt., 7th Wisconsin Infantry, Co. "H"; wounded 7/1/1863 @
Gettysburg,Pa.; entered service at Boscobel, Wisconsin; born in Grant
County, Wisconsin. Medal of Honor issued 6/29/1866- Citation "unsurpassed
courage - both eyes shot out".
------------------------------
thasallfernow-grampajoec
There is a feature about the "Choate" family from the Va/MD area, 18th
century, at the Smithsonian Museum of Technology in DC. Is this name a variation
of the Coates family?
-June
That should be *has a profile DNA signature*
but that particular name Couts, has a profit DNA signature out of the
Shetland Islands and it doesn't match any from our DNA group...
Char
Well, at this point, I don't know....:) we've found variations of
Coarts/Courts in MD, although most of the original records show Courts, the
name has been transcribed as Coates and at least one Coarts thus far has
been traces from MD to SC and in SC the name is spelled Coats/Cotes...so it
could be a variation...but without doing a thorough search of the original
records it would be hard to say...Couts in TN has been transcribed as
Coats...but that particular name Couts, has a profit DNA signature out of
the Shetland Islands and it doesn't match any from our DNA group...
I'd say the best way to find out or what would help, would be for a Choate
surnamed male to particiapte in our DNA project....:) it could take the
guessing out of it....:)
You can find information on our DNA project at:
Coate, Coates, Coats Archive
http://www.coatsarchive.us
These wide name variations by the way, I don't think is uncommon in that
early 1700/1600 period...apparently this is true in a great many
families....but the DNA testing has helped to sort the families out....:)
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: SumDMJ(a)aol.com
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COATES-L] Re: COATES-D Digest V04 #177
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:14:54 EDT
There is a feature about the "Choate" family from the Va/MD area, 18th
century, at the Smithsonian Museum of Technology in DC. Is this name a
variation
of the Coates family?
-June
==== COATES Mailing List ====
Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive:
http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar
It seems that every list I have belonged to has at one time discussed
Migration Routes - this site was shared on one of those mailing lists
and I found it to have a great deal of information to offer on the
subject - http://www.cob-net.org/docs/brethrenlife_migrations.htm#movewest
Family Group Record for Alfred Coate THOMAS
======================
Husband: Alfred Coate THOMAS
======================
AKA:
Born: 1/6/1869
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Father: Jessee A. THOMAS (1825-1900)
Mother: Evolina COATE (1826-1908)
Married: 10/16/1872 Place:
======================
Wife: Annie E. WATERS
======================
AKA:
Born: 9/27/1848
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
======================
Children
================================================================================
1 M John Frederic THOMAS
Born: 12/1/1873
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 M Jesse Harold THOMAS
Born: 4/8/1885
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Last Modified: 9/5/2004
LINDA COATE,
Columbus, Ohio
lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
www.ancestrees.com
Family Group Record for Jessee A. THOMAS
=====================
Husband: Jessee A. THOMAS
=====================
AKA:
Born: 11/13/1825
Christened:
Died: 11/18/1900
Buried:
Married: 3/2/1848 Place: Southampton,
Burlington
Co., NJ, USA
==================================================
Wife: Evolina COATE
==================================================
AKA:
Born: 3/11/1826
Christened:
Died: 8/9/1908
Buried:
Father: Daniel COATE (1802-1867)
Mother: Esther TROTH (1804-1889)
======================
Children
======================
1 M Alfred Coate THOMAS
Born: 1/6/1869
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Annie E. WATERS (1848- )
Marr. Date: 10/16/1872
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 F Ella Eliza THOMAS
Born: 6/9/1855
Christened:
Died: 8/17/1875
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Last Modified: 9/5/2004
LINDA COATE,
Columbus, Ohio
lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
www.ancestrees.com
Here's Asael's son Daniel.
Family Group Record for Daniel COATE
================================================================================
Husband: Daniel COATE
================================================================================
AKA:
Born: 11/22/1802 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died: 9/18/1867
Buried:
Father: Asael COATE (1769-1815)
Mother: Mary STRICKERS ( - )
Married: 11/15/1823 Place:
================================================================================
Wife: Esther TROTH
================================================================================
AKA:
Born: 9/16/1804
Christened:
Died: 7/7/1889
Buried:
Father: John TROTH (1761-1813)
Mother: Ann ENGLE (1774-1832)
================================================================================
Children
================================================================================
1 F Evolina COATE
Born: 3/11/1826
Christened:
Died: 8/9/1908
Buried:
Spouse: Jessee A. THOMAS (1825-1900)
Marr. Date: 3/2/1848 - Southampton, Burlington Co., NJ, USA
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
================================================================================
General Notes (Wife)
================================================================================
The Bible that is quoted as the source for this Daniel and Esther Troth
Coats family is her bible as quoted in the front "Esther Coate, 1825" and is
likely in her excellent penmenship. However, the copywrite on the bible is
1830, so it's likely that the front inscription was put in later and had the
date slightly wrong.
Last Modified: 9/5/2004
LINDA COATE,
Columbus, Ohio
lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
www.ancestrees.com
Here is one of the descendant lines of Daniel Coate of NJ. His son was
Asael Coate.
Family Group Record for Asael COATE
================================================================================
Husband: Asael COATE
================================================================================
AKA:
Born: 11/21/1769 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died: 3/16/1815
Buried: - Old Methodist Burial Ground, Hunterdon Co., NJ
Father: Daniel COATE (1739-1802)
Mother: Sarah MILLES (1745-Bef 1825)
Married: Place:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Other Spouse: Esther WILKINS ( - ) Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Other Spouse: Susan WILKINS ( - ) Date:
================================================================================
Wife: Mary STRICKERS
================================================================================
AKA:
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
================================================================================
Children
================================================================================
1 F Rosanna COATS
Born: After 1789 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Benjamin HARRIS ( - )
Marr. Date:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 M Daniel COATE
Born: 11/22/1802 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died: 9/18/1867
Buried:
Spouse: Esther TROTH (1804-1889)
Marr. Date: 11/15/1823
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 F Sarah COATS
Born: - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Joseph HARRIS ( - )
Marr. Date:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 F Rebecca COATS
Born: - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: William PAGE ( - )
Marr. Date:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
5 M Wesley COATS
Born: - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6 F Mahetable COATS
Born: - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
7 F Ann COATS
Born: - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
8 M Philip COATS
Born: - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
================================================================================
General Notes (Husband)
================================================================================
"Asael Coate was born the November the 21 Day at 3 oClock in the
morning
the 3 day of the week in the year of our Lord 1769" according to his father or
mother's bible. His name has been found in later records to be spelled Asahel
Coats instead.
Last Modified: 9/5/2004
LINDA COATE,
Columbus, Ohio
lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
www.ancestrees.com
Go for it Linda. Daniel was the middle name for my line. James, son James
Daniel and his son James Daniel.. Named a daughter Sarah too. No stone
unturned. <G>
Gup
At 08:00 AM 10/23/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Here is the info that was mostly gleaned from the bible that originally
>belonged to Daniel Coate's wife's side of the family. I have had company
>for the last month preventing me from getting this out to the Coate group
>sooner. The bible information covered 7 generations from Daniel forward
>and a HUGE thanks goes to John W. Coats for sharing these bibles. If
>anyone is interested in this line, I'll be glad to print the other five
>generations not in this letter.
>
>Family Group Record for Daniel COATE
Here is the info that was mostly gleaned from the bible that originally
belonged to Daniel Coate's wife's side of the family. I have had company
for the last month preventing me from getting this out to the Coate group
sooner. The bible information covered 7 generations from Daniel forward
and a HUGE thanks goes to John W. Coats for sharing these bibles. If
anyone is interested in this line, I'll be glad to print the other five
generations not in this letter.
Family Group Record for Daniel COATE
================================================================================
Husband: Daniel COATE
================================================================================
AKA:
Born: 8/29/1739 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died: 10/26/1802
Buried:
Father: John COATE Sr. (1699-Bef 1751)
Mother: Esther DOUGHTY (1708-Aft 1742)
Married: 11/8/1766 Place: Kingwood, Hunterdon
Co., NJ
==================================
Wife: Sarah MILLES
==================================
AKA:
Born: 9/20/1745
Christened:
Died: Bef 8/6/1825 - , Burlington Co., NJ, USA
Buried:
Father: Unknown MILLES ( - )
Mother:
=================================
Children
================================
1 M Reverend Michael COATE
Born: 12/15/1767 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died: 8/1/1814 - , , NJ, USA
Buried: - Old Methodist Burial Ground, Hunterdon Co., NJ
Spouse: Mahetable BRIGGS ( - )
Marr. Date:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 M Asael COATE
Born: 11/21/1769 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died: 3/16/1815
Buried: - Old Methodist Burial Ground, Hunterdon Co., NJ
Spouse: Mary STRICKERS ( - )
Marr. Date:
Spouse: Esther WILKINS ( - )
Marr. Date:
Spouse: Susan WILKINS ( - )
Marr. Date:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 M John COATE
Born: 2/18/1772 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died: After 1811
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 F Sarah COATE
Born: 1/30/1774 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died: After 1811
Buried:
Spouse: Thomas PAGE ( -Aft 1811)
Marr. Date: Bef 11/1811 - , Burlington Co., NJ, USA
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
5 M Samuel COATE
Born: 1/17/1746 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died: After 1811
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6 M Wesley COATE
Born: 9/23/1778 - Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
7 F Witty COATE
Born: 9/23/1778
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LINDA COATE,
Columbus, Ohio
lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
www.ancestrees.com
FYI....
I don't know...someone better give Ancestry some competition before they get
to be like eBay...:)
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: William L Harvey <wlh(a)foothill.net>
Reply-To: GENEALOGY-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
To: GENEALOGY-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Ancestry.com Surname Message Board Policy? Was : [DNA] Rootsweb
DNA List Advertising and Posting Policy
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:46:09 -0700
Ancestry.com has apparently made a concerted effort to seek out and remove
all messages dealing with DNA including surname message board responses
posted by interested board members.
My first and only announcement posting for Harvey surname project was made
in March - it was removed yesterday.
My only announcement posting for Asbill surname project was placed in Sept..
There this a.m. - removed tonight.
There was no mention of price in these postings but the URL for each surname
page was included - using FTDNA's free "results" website - as was my e-mail
address.
I do not feel these messages were off-topic nor did they violate any of the
message board rules/policy even as it is stated this evening.
Something malevolent must have occurred just recently to have created such a
violent and all-inclusive reaction. Is there some way to find out what
gives?
Bill Harvey
restes(a)comcast.net wrote:
>Julia,
>
>I just checked the Halifax board, and the one I left for your Moore project
>a long time ago is there, but all the ones I've posted since are gone.
>
>I'm so !*#@ angry I could spit nails.
>
>Roberta
>
==============================
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Robbie,
I have three Moses Tylers. Oldest being, ca 1616, the other two are Moses
1724 s/o John and Mary Gardener Tyler in VA. The third is Absolom (my line)
1730 NC and Unknown, d. SC. My Tyler's migrated to MS, LA and TX.
I also have a Martha Ann Hickman who m. William Thompson Brister, That
relationship is; the Bristers and the Tyler's traveled together from SC to
AR. This is my mothers side of the tree.
Not sure if this is of any relevance, but who knows?
Gup
At 06:42 PM 10/21/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>______________________________X-Message: #1
>Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:29:58 -0500
>From: "Robbie Griggs Landry" <genealogy101(a)bellsouth.net>
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Message-ID: <000d01c4b769$add31f00$02fea8c0@W92P4BHLZG>
>Subject: Elijah P. Coats
>Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Well my excitement from yesterday was for nothing.
>
>The book with St. Helena Parish Successions is a book I had already seen .
>
>Succession Records of St. Helena Parish 1804-1854 page 162 Elijah P.
>Coats Judge St. Helena Parish year 1825.
>
>I've already gone to St. Helena once but, I believe I'm going to make
>another trip probably next week.
>
>There has to be something more than one document with Elijah Coats name on
>it .
>Also, Abner Glover and Wm. Hickman were in St. Helena Parish,LA at one
>time as was one of Pollard Coats sons.
>
>Moses Tylar (m) Elizabeth Hickman was there 'I believe ' ** Elizabeth
>Hickman was Pollard Coats aunt. (A sister to Helena Hickman)
>
>Wm. Tylar may have also been in St Helena Parish,LA as well.
>
>Please, wish me luck.
>
>Sorry,
>Robbie
Was this our Major we were looking for?
Wonder if he's got kids...kinda sounds like he's pretty young and not
married??
Thanks, Gup....:)
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: guppi(a)charter.net
To: Charlotte Coates <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Interesting
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:48:08 -0500
KFMB.COM
SOLDIER SAYS MISSION NOT REFUSED FROM FEAR
(10-21-2004) - A soldier from an Army Reserve unit whose members refused to
deliver fuel along a dangerous route in Iraq says he and others did not act
out of fear, as the soldier's father has said.
"We are not cowards," Spc. Major Coates told The Charlotte Observer for a
report published Thursday. "The way that things come out, it makes us look
like that ... Our soldiers have run missions all over Iraq; we're never
scared to go on a mission."
Coates was among 19 members of a platoon from the 343rd Quartermaster
Company, based in Rock Hill, S.C., who last week refused to transport
supplies from Tallil air base near Nasiriyah to Taji north of Baghdad.
He called the newspaper Wednesday, saying he wanted to correct statements
made in interviews by his father, John Coates. The specialist said his
father may have gotten details wrong because he was upset about what
happened.
Relatives have said that the soldiers' trucks were broken down, that they
lacked a proper armed escort and that the fuel they were to deliver was
contaminated.
Army officials dispute that account and say they are investigating. The
reservists could face courts-martial.
Coates said he was wearing body armor during the mission, though his father
said he was not.
Coates, a water treatment specialist, also said he was properly trained to
deploy to Iraq but acknowledged that when he arrived, officials "did not
tell us we were infantry now," as his father had said.
And he said his father was wrong when he said soldiers banded together in
refusing the order.
"We did not form a group on the decision we made," Coates said. "Everyone
made their own individual decision to do what we thought best."
If soldiers acted as a group in what the military considers a mutiny, they
could receive a more severe punishment than if they acted individually.
John Coates was out of town Thursday and unavailable for comment, Major
Coates' stepmother, Stephanie Parks, said from their home in Mount Holly,
N.C.
Parks said the couple believes soldiers are now getting the equipment they
need to do their jobs safely.
"We're just satisfied with the way things are going," she said.
Major Coates declined to comment about whether he was mistreated by military
authorities, as some relatives have alleged.
"I'm serving my time to my country because I love America," he said. "If the
leaders do their part, I do my part."
Parks said her stepson was detained at gunpoint for up to 18 hours but has
said nothing about further discipline. "He's still in Iraq, I guess, still
working," she said. "(He's) saying it's better than it was."
Well my excitement from yesterday was for nothing.
The book with St. Helena Parish Successions is a book I had already seen .
Succession Records of St. Helena Parish 1804-1854 page 162 Elijah P. Coats Judge St. Helena Parish year 1825.
I've already gone to St. Helena once but, I believe I'm going to make another trip probably next week.
There has to be something more than one document with Elijah Coats name on it .
Also, Abner Glover and Wm. Hickman were in St. Helena Parish,LA at one time as was one of Pollard Coats sons.
Moses Tylar (m) Elizabeth Hickman was there 'I believe ' ** Elizabeth Hickman was Pollard Coats aunt. (A sister to Helena Hickman)
Wm. Tylar may have also been in St Helena Parish,LA as well.
Please, wish me luck.
Sorry,
Robbie
Hello,
I was so excited I had to write and let everyone know. Today while nosing around(smile). I found a book that was written that is supposed to have the Succession of Elijah P. Coats in Helena Parish,LA.
(This is just across the state line from Wilkinson Co.,Ms.
I was told that this book names Children,wives and exc. .... I know the arthur and shows it has Elijah P. Coats succession.
http://www.gwest.org/sthel.htm
Cross your fingers girl. I hope this is the same Elijah Coats as mine. I bet the P. middle name is Pollard.
Robbie
----Original Message Follows----
From: Rick Sowders <poochy1955(a)yahoo.com>
To: coats(a)hotmail.com
Subject: Coates of England
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:49:14 -0700 (PDT)
My name is Ricky Sowders (Coates) I have traced my family back to the 1500
hundreds beging in England and then migrating to Canada and then in to
Michigan to then move to many different states if I can be of help or u have
any info that may help me please contact me at poochy1955(a)yahoo.com I have
been doing my families history for about 4 and 1/2 years thank u and I like
the way your sight as been done. Ricky Coates
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