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I should have pointed out in my post that a large number of the messages I
copied were from Charlotte. Thanks. There were also quite a few from
GrampaJoe. Thanks again.
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From: Charlotte Coats [mailto:coats@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 2:39 PM
To: John(a)Coates.net; COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Northeast NC part 1
Gwen has transcribed and published a great many books, she is related to my
Rev Andrew Baker line, my line is his daughter Mary Baker, married to Thomas
Callaway all of Ashe County NC...
Char
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source: Pasquotank County North Carolina Record of Deeds 1700-1751
compiled by Gwen Boyer Bjorkman...hmmmm
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Gwen has transcribed and published a great many books, she is related to my
Rev Andrew Baker line, my line is his daughter Mary Baker, married to Thomas
Callaway all of Ashe County NC...
Char
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source: Pasquotank County North Carolina Record of Deeds 1700-1751
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Larry,
You are making some good progress toward sorting out the northeast NC crowd.
Thought I would see if I could help. I searched the Coates-L list for
references to Edgecombe, Halifax, Perquimans or Pasquotank. Here is what I
have for the years 1997-1998.
John D
************************.
Source: Abstracts of Land Entries: Rutherford Co. NC 1795-1803, Dr.
A.B. Pruitt, no publisher, 1989
p. 8
112. Mar. 17, 1795 James Parks enters 200 ac in Rutherford Co. on a fork
of Dunkins Cr, border: David Coats, Lowry, & runs "up": includes the
improvements where I live..
Source: Abstracts of Land Entries: Edgecombe Co. NC 1783-1784, Nash
Co. NC 1778-1794, Halifax Co. NC 1778-1795, Northampton Co. NC
1778-1794, A.B. Pruitt, 1992
p. 66
Halifax Co. NC Land Entries 1778-1795
834 (189) Feb. 4, 1779 Benjamin Coats enters 600 ac: border: John
Browne, William Coats, Wolf Pit Br. & Bear Swamp: paid 15.16 pounds;
warrant issued Mar. 4, 1779.
p. 90
Halifax Co. NC Land Entries 1778-1795
1105 (111) Jul. 28, 1787 Lumfd. Long enters 300 ac; border: William
Coats, Hnery Browne, Mehony, Bear Swamp. & Tatum's entry: Nov. 1, 1787
claim withdrawn, money returned.
source: this is a very small very well used little book: Perquimans
County Historical Society Year Book, 1976, Minutes of Perquimants
Monthly Meeting 1680-1700; Extracts from Quaker Minutes 1704-1726;
George Catchmaind's Land Grants and Will; Francis Godfrey Will and
Inventory; Perquimans 1717-1719 Tax List; Misplaced Perquimans Marriages
1790-1824; Missing Perquimans Marriages 1809-1814; Index
This is the only Coats in there:
p. 32
Ralph Coates signed doc as Clk Coun - March 25, 1680
p. 37
Leist of Bills - Godfrey recorded per Ralph Coates Clerk Council March
Court 1680
p. 39
Presented in Court June the 7th 1680 and entered on the records at large
this 26 day of November 1680 per Ralph Coates Clerk Court as before
appeareth.
>
source: Pasquotank County North Carolina Record of Deeds 1700-1751
compiled by Gwen Boyer Bjorkman...hmmmm
has a nice map of this area in it as well...
p. 198
Volume C:288
North Carolina) Albermarl) William Earle of Craven Palt &c...give &
grant unto Elizabeth Coats...150 acres lieing on Newbegun Creek in
Pasquotank County gegining...by Newbegun Creek Swamp...(C:289)...this 1
day of Jany 1694. Witness our &c Phil: Ludwell Esq. &c...signed: Phill
Ludwell, Thomas Harvey, Daniel Akhurst, Francis Tomes, Thooams Pollock.
Reft: Dec: ye 11. 1731
(charlotte's note: so this deed was signed Jan 1, 1694 but not recorded
until Dec 11, 1731...hmmmmm...she lived there at least what 40 years
.......from just this deed)
p. 197
C:287 N. Carolina) Albermarl Cty) William Earl of Craven Pallt &c...give
& grant unto William Mobery (sic) a tract of land containing 200 acres
lieing in Pasquotank prect in ye county afs'd beginning at an Oak by
Newbegun Creek Swamp...Eliz Coats her corner tree...by Newby Creek
Swamp...ye said land being due to the sd Newby...
p. 72
A:190 Corns. Fitzpatrick of the precinct of Pasquotank & county of
Albermarle in his Majesties Province of North Carolina planter for and
in consideration of the sum of 20 pounds good and lawful Money of great
Britain...sold...unto Obadiah Ffear...100 acres...4th Ffeby. 1716/7.
Signed: Corns. Ffitzpatrick. Wit: Jno. Woodland, Henry Coats. Ack:
15th July 1718. Regt: 24th 7br 1718
p. 433
B:152 John Coats of Pasquotank County & Province of North Carolina
planter for ... 2 pounds current money of Gt. Britain...paid by John
Sikes of Pasquotank afsd...sold...being in North River Swamp
(B:153)...450 acres...John Coats took up as by a patent under the hand
of Edward Mosely and Robert Halton agent for John Lord Cartwright Earl
of Granville and bearing date the 20th day of Dec. 1748...one Moiety or
200 acres of said Tract of land being divided by a line agreed
upon...Forbes's corner...3 Feb. 1749. Signed John Coats. Wit: Jas
Forbes, Elizabeth Forbes, John Sikes. Proved: April Court 1751 by the
affirmation of James Forbes. Regt: 18 April 1751.
(charlotte's note: darn thought those Cartwrights were in NV...)
p. 385
B:22 North Carolina Thomas Barker (Baker?) of Pasquotank County in
the Province of North Carolina planter for ...25 pounds proclamation
money paid by John Coats...sold...one certain farm...on the N.E. side of
the sd. River...65 acres...part of a tract of land which Ientered and
surveyed contg. 200 acres and lying on the Western side of the said
tract called the island beginning at the mouth of a branch called
Tantrough Branch ...to William Bray's line (charlotte's note: ...sorry
this continues on to page 386 which I didn't get...:(
p. 376
A:449 Joseph Williams of Pasquotank County and in the Province of North
Carolina for and in consideration of the sum of 100 pounds proclamation
money...paid by Evan Lurry of the same county and province
afsd...sold...tract of land being part of a patenet bearing date 1668,
granted to Edward Williams known by the name of Harris Island containing
486 acres...(A:450)...(blank) 1746. Signed: Jospeh Williams. Wit:
William Norton, John Coats. Ack: Oct. Court 1746. Regt: 28 Oct. 1746
source: Deeds Halifax Co, NC 1758-1796...this was a series of three
books bound in one hardcover volume...each volume covered a different
period of years...the numbers at the end are the record number...i.e. DB
is Deed Book then the year it covers and the volume and page not sure
about the last two numbers could be page and item...did get the page
numbers of the books...I was photo copying and writing, guess I thought
I had to get it all down today...<g>
1758-1771
John Coates - witness deed - 1761 - DB8, 1758-1761-423,9
Coates - adjoining land - 1762 - DB8-497, 78
Richard Tatum & Mary his wife to John Coats - 5, June, 1762, 320 acres
both sides of Brewers Branch joining Rocky Swamp - DB8, 524, 107
Elizabeth Jones to William Coats, 5 June 1762, 90 acres joining Henry
Brown, John Coats, Jacob Harper, Wit: Wm Roan, Henry Jones DB8, 527,
111
John Brown to William Coats, 15 Nov. 1777 - 100 acres joining Alston,
Haywood, Great Branch - Wit: John Coats DB14, 859, 406
Henry Coats to Edward Stephens, 6 Jan 1766 - 50 acres joining Coats,
DB113, 467, 425
Granville grant to Robert Williams, 3 Jul 1760 joining William Green,
John Coats DB17, 846, 349
There was a Molly Coats Branch mentioned also...looks like maybe the
name of a Creek...?
John Coats - witness to deed; DB13, 468, 426
John Coats to Edward Stevens 17 Feb 1777, 100 acres, wit: Harriss,
DB13, 469, 428
100 acres adjoining John Coats - Steven to Harris 9 June 1777; DB13,
525, 516
Mr. Coats as joining land 8 Feb 1775 Rocky Swamp Milstone Branch, DB13,
527, 519
Daniel to King, Brunswick Co. VA, 24 May 1778, 240 acres, joing John
Coats; DB, 733, 177 - Daniel and King were from VA
Benjamin Coats to Mark Browning, 1 Feb 1780 100 acres Marsh Swamp wit:
Purnal & Gurley DB14, 825, 337
John Coats & Mary his wife of Halifax Co. to Edward Stevens, 21 Feb
1780, 100 acres Briery Branch, Bowers Branch, Mary relinquished her
dower rights; DB14, 835, 365
Stevens to John Coats 20 Feb 1779, 100 acres joining John Coats DB14,
838, 370
source: Old Albemarle and its absentee landlords by Ray; Genealogical
Publishing 1960
p. 597: Residents & landowners in the lower part of Chowan, now Bertie
in 1719 living between Salmon Creek & Cashey River
Mathew Coates
source: Pasquotank County, NC Reocrd of deeds 1700-1751 by Bjorkman
p. 72
Henry Coats witnesses a deed for Fitzpatrick in Feb 4, 1716/7 - Regt:
24 7br 1718
p. 385
Thomas Barker of Pasquotank Co., planter for 25 pounds paid by John
Coats...N.E. side of said river...65 acres...part of a survey of 200
acres to Barker lying on the western side of the said tract called the
Island beginning at the mouth of a branch called Tantrough branch to
William Bray's line...65 acres...24 Jany 1745/6 /s/ Thomas Barker Wit:
James Forbes, Eliza Forbes, Absolum Grimes REgt: 21 July 1747
p. 433
John Coats of Pasquotank Co. and province of NC, planter, for 2 pounds
current money of Gt Gritain paid by John Sikes of Pasquotank
afsd...sold...being in north River Swamp (B:153) 450 acres ...John Coats
took up as by a patent under the hand of Edward Mosely and Robert Halton
agent for John Lord Cartwright Earl of Granville and bearing date of 20
day of Dec 1748...one Moiety or 200 acres of said tract of land being
divided by a line agreed upon...Forbe's corner...3 FEb 1749...signed
John Coats wit: Jas Forbes, Elizabeth Forbes, John Sikes Proved:
April Court 1751 by James Forbes Rgt: 18 April 1751
source: Pasquotank County NC Court Minutes, Book 2 1747-1753 by Haun
p. 12
July 1747
A deed of sale for land from Thomas Barker (Charlotte's note: Baker?)
to John Coats? was acknowledged in open court & was ordered to be
recorded paid due 5/certified.
p. 101
Jan 1750
Orders for administration is granted to Joel Brockett on the Estate of
John Coats deceased he giving security in the sum of one hundred and
fifty poudns sterling which was given (sic) himself Wm Burges & James
Forbes, pd.
p. 112
April 1751
A deed of sale for land from John Coats to John Sikes was proved in open
court by the affirmation of James Forbes in due form of law.
p. 173
Apirl 1752
68. Joel Brockett admr. on John Coats
p. 177-178
April 1750
Ordered that William Burges, Esq. John Scarbrough, James Forbes, & Abell
Gallop or any three of them to devide the estate of John Coats amongs
(sic) the heirs att law and that all the perishable estate htat shall be
divided to small orphans be sold att publick vandue. issd.
p. 194
July 1752
A division of the estate of John Coats is returned, not pad.
p. 195
July 1752
Ordered for admr is granted to Ely Coats on the estate of Joshua Costs
(Coats) (sic) secruity being given inthe sum of 20 pounds prod. by
herself and Henry Hayman and Jos. Mercer. issd.
source: Abstracts of Wills Pasquotank, NC 1752-1824 by White
p. 17
Books H, I, and Part of K
p. 345 John Peel. Son Joseph Peel, wife Sarah Peel, daughter Elizabeth
Peel, daughter Sarah Peele, daughter Miriam Forbes, daughter Afliah
Peel, daughter Margreat Etheridge, daughter Mary Etheridge, granson
Richard Spence son of my daughter Deborah. Wife Sarah and son Jsoeph,
execs. 9 March 1770 Wit: George Coats, Elinor Coats. December Ct. 1770
p. 10
p. 155 Levi Bell. Sister Orpha Berry, mother Ann Bell, my father Joseph
Bell. Father Jos Bell, exec. 28 June 1775. Wit: Ellen Coats and
George Coats proved June Ct. 1776
p. 7
p. 107 Jesse Cartwright. First son Jesse, father Isaac Cartwright,
decd., wife Eliza Cartwright, brother Caleb Cartwright. Elizabeth
Cartwright, exec. 13 October 1776. Wit: George Coats, Caleb
Cartwright, March CT 1777
hmmmm...didn't see Hos or Little Joes name in there...<g>
p. 5
p. 76 William Ogilvie. Decd. brother James Ogilvy's children. State of
Leith in Scotland. George Coats and Caleb Forbes, exec. dated 3
February 1773. Wit: Mary Forbes, John Dunkin, James Gardner. Recorded
2 August 1774
Source: The Granville District of North Carolina, 1748-1763, Abstracts
of Land Grants, Vol. 2, Margaret M. Hofmann, not sure who the publisher
was...
p. 141
2625 pg. 46 Elizabeth Jones 22 September 1761 200 acres in Hallifax
County on the head of the Marsh Swamp, joining Howel Edmunds and John
Coates
p. 169
2902 pg. 125 Thomas Coats 30 March 1760 130 acres in Halifax County in
the Parish of Edgcombe, joining the Marsh swamp, meads line, William
Ross, and Colonel McCullock or: /s/ Thomas Coats Wits: Wm Lucas, J.
Montfort, Roland Williams examined by: Tho Jones and Richd Vigers
surveyd 6 March 1760 cc: Wm Roan, Jno Fountain JOS Jno Williams
Surveyor
George, James, John, Malachi and William Coates were Tax Payers in
Pasquotank County, NC in 1769.
Source: Province of North Carolina, 1663-1729, Abstractsof Land Patents
by Margaret M. Hofmann
p. 11
98 pg. 38 Elizabeth Coates 1 Janaury 1694 150 acres on new begun
Creek in Pasquot Precinct, joining the sd. Creek and a branch /s/ Philip
Ludwell, Tho. Harvey, Dan'l Akehurst, Francis Tomes, Tho. Pollock.
p. 12
109 pg. 42 Thomas Towers 1 January 1694 160 acres in Pasquot
Precinct, joining William Mowbery, Elizabeth Coates, and new begun Creek
Swamp /s/ Philip Ludwell, Tho. Harvey, Dan'l Akehurst, Francis Tomes,
Tho. Pollock
p. 22
222 pg 82 William Mowbery 10 November 1694 200 acres in Pasquotank
Precinct, joining New begun Creek Swamp at ye mouth of a branch, Eliza
Coates, and the sd. Creek Swamp /s/ Philip Ludwell, Tho. Harvey, Danl
Akehurst, Fra Toms, Tho Pollock
Well this interesting.....
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: Freeman Coats <fwcoats(a)diamondcs.net>
To: coats(a)hotmail.com
Subject: Elizabeth Coats, desc. of Pocahantas
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:38:00 -0400 (EDT)
Received a clipping from the Dallas News, June 23, 2003
"Clerk's Legacy Includes his ties to royalty"
"This Dallas street has family ties to the Indian Princess Pocahontas.
Edward Cabell Browder - for whom Browder Street is named - was District
Clerk in Dallas from 1850 to 1852.
What's all this got to do with Pocahontas?
In 1849, Mr. Browder married ELIZABETH COATS, a descendant of Pocahontas,
who saved Capt. John Smith. Mr. Browder honored Pocahontas and her father
with street names."
Well, I just thought if anyone knows Elizabeth Coats, they might like to
know this. - Freeman Coats (it's not me!)
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I suspect most of you have seen this...but what happened to these guys has
always fascinated me....
I guess this is why our confidence level is so high....
If you take a look around today...guess they didn't fight for nothing, huh?
They gambled everything they had for an ideal....
Enjoy your freedom, it didn't come easy....
Char
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> Subject: FW: 4th Of July
>
>
>
> The 4TH OF JULY
>
> Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the
> Declaration of Independence?
>
> Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured
before
> they died.
>
> Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.. Two lost their sons
serving
> in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.
>
> Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the
> Revolutionary War.
>
> They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their
sacred
> honor.
>
> What kind of men were they?
>
> Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were
> farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated, but
they
> signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty
> would be death if they were captured.
>
> Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his Ships
> swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties
> to pay his debts, and died in rags.
>
> Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move
his
> family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his
> family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and
> poverty was his reward.
>
> Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer,
> Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
>
> At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British
> General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters.
>
> He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was
> destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
>
> Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed
his
> wife, and she died within a few months.
>
> John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13
> children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to
> waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning
home
> to find his wife dead and his children vanished. Some of us take these
> liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't.
>
> So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and
> silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they
> paid.
>
> Remember: freedom is never free!
>
> I hope you will show your support by sending this to as many people as
you
> can, please. It's time we get the word out that patriotism is NOT a sin,
> and the Fourth of July has more to it than beer, picnics, and baseball
> games.
>
>
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Just had to share something that I just found:
In the last update on this subject, I mentioned that Louise Rene Cotes/Coates married a Jacob Sutton, later of Jefferson Co. GA. I've been able to extend the Sutton line as follows, beginning with this Jacob's father:
Solomon Sutton of Dooly Co. GA(and of Pitt/Rowan/Beaufort/Bertie Cos. NC)marr. Mary Blount. Solomon was the son of:
John Sutton of Bertie and Albemarle Cos. NC, who was the son of:
Joseph Sutton of Albemarle Co. NC, previousl of Ireland.
Now comes the interesting item,which, I think, is not a coincidence:
per the LDS PRF, a Christopher Coates, christened 2 Nov 1693 at Hindon, England(think that is in Durham), son of Thomas Coates and Margaret Waleman, married on 8 Jun 1721 at Cockfield, Durham, one Anne SUTTON, b. 1697.
I would not be surprised at all to find that this Anne Sutton was a daughter of the Joseph Sutton, immigrant to Albemarle Co. NC. However, since the Sutton lineage did not provide me any dates, I am going to have to dig a bit more before I can be certain of this.
>From what I have so far on the Coateses of Cockfield, Durham, it would seem to me that this Christopher Coates had an older brother, Henry Coates, b. 23 Sept 1680 at Cockfield, and it is my tentative conclusion that this Henry Coates is identical to the Henry Coates who was in Albemarle Co. NC by 1718.
While I could still be proved to be outrageously incorrect on this Coates line, I am starting to draw firmer conclusions; am hoping for some additional hard data on this Henry AND that Ralph who was in Albemarle c. 1677-81.
Regards to all,
Larry
FYI...I dont' know if there are any Coats in this settlement but it was an
interesting history...someone may be in need of....
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From: "at58" <at58(a)adelphia.net>
Reply-To: VERNON-L(a)rootsweb.com
To: VERNON-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [VERNON] Hisoty of Cub Creek Settlement in VA
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 00:02:09 -0400
This is submitted because it traces from legal records in the Clerks'
Offices of Virginia the various counties involved in the Cub Creek
Settlement and appears to settle the question of what Vernons were among the
original settlers. The history of the establisment of the Virginia counties
mentioned in the quotes below are as follows:
Charles City Shire established in 1634 and contained within its territory
all of the land from which these named counties were established (as well as
other counties not named here).
1703 Charles City Shire was renamed Prince George County
1732 Brunswick County was established out of Prince George County.
1746 Lunenburg County was established from Brunswick County
1765 Charlotte County was established from Lunenburg County.
1735 Amelia County was established from Prince George County and from a part
of Brunswick County
1754 Prince Edward County was established from Amelia County
Everything from this point on is quote from the book indicated below.
Hildred
This posting is from a book entited Cub Creek Church and Congregation
1738-1838 by Elizabeth Venable Gaines published in 1931 at Richmond,
Virginia, by the Presbyterian Committee of Publication.
SETTLEMENT OF THE CALDWELL COLON ON CUB CREEK
Approximately two centuries agao occurred what has since proven one of the
most important events in the annals of Charlotte County history---the
settlement on Cub Creek of a Scotch-Irish Colony, led by John Caldwell.
The emigration of this colony was a part of a considerable exodus of Scotch
Presbyterians from Ulster County, Ireland, which had taken place earlier in
the eighteenth century. Looking for religious freedom and exemption from
taxation for the support of the Established Church, they had turned to
America. Pennsylvania, the home of the Quaker, offered them a greatest
attraction, but the Caldwell Colon, finding the choicest locations in that
state already occupied, moved on to Virginia.
There is some confusion of data regarding both the year of their arrival and
the exact location in Charlotte (then Brunswick) County of their first place
of settlement.
A letter, written May 11, 1825, by John Rodgers, grandson of the leader of
the colony, affirms that John Caldwell with his family and a few friends
left Ireland for America in 1727. How long they tarried in Pennsylvania is
not known. If, as seems true from this letter, they rreached Virginia in
the early thirties, they found the frontier a wilderness, indeed. ....
While here John Caldwell spnt some time prospecting for a permanent location
better suited to the needs of the larger number of emigrants who were to
join him later. While exploring for more fertile lands for his increasing
colony, he met Richard Kennon, a land speculator, from Kennon's, on James
River. His glowing picture of Staunton River lowland and Cub Creek highlands
induced the emigrants to purchase lands from him, he having patented 30,700
acres of land in the environs of Cub Creek. The members of the colony also
took out patents of lands for themselves in this locality. From the deeds
given by Richard Kennon and filed in the clerk's office of Brunswick County
and from patents recorded in the Virginia Land Office, we obtained the names
of the families constituting the original Cub Creek settlement. None of
these deeds were granted before 1740.
The settlement numbered, probably, about two hundred souls. The area it
occupied, intersected by Wallace, Cub and Turnip Creeks and bounded on the
south by Staunton River, included five to six square miles.
FOUNDING OF CUB CREEK CHURCH
While arranging for the temporal interests of his colony, John Caldwell was
not forgetful of their prime motive in emigrating to America. We find him,
May 25th, 1738, appearing before the Synod of Philadelphis in behalf of
himself and "many families of our persuasion who are about to settle in the
back parts of Virgina" with a petition that members of the Synod be
appointed to wait on the Governor of Virginia with suitable instructions in
order to procurre the favor of the government of that Province to the laying
a foundation of our interest in that place ..... and to ask for the colony
liberty of conscience and the privilege of worshiping God in a way agreeable
to the principle of our education..........
The colonies of John Caldwell ......laid the foundations of Cub Creek Church
in Charlotte ..........
John Caldwell was a prominent servant and leader of the county as well as of
his colony. The earliest reference to him in the historical record is the
following order from the Minute Book of the County Court of Brunswick County
(September term, 1741, Order Book 2, p. 29) "Ordered that a road be cleared
from Colonel Richard Randolph's quarter at the mouth of Little Roanoke till
it meets the road ordered to be cleared by the Amelia (Prince Edward) County
Court ........
When Lunenburg County was formed from Brunswick in 1746, both John Caldwell
and his son William were among the first justices of the peace who
consitituted its first county court. His son David Caldwell hed the same
position for the County of Charlotte when it was cut from Lunenburg in 1764.
...............
The names of the heads of families constituting the Caldwell Settlement can
be ascertained with reasonable accuracy from the following sources:
I. The following Deeds from Richard and William Kennon, all dated January 1,
1745 and recorded in 1746 are found in Deed Book 4, in the Clerk's Office of
Brunswick County:
(Transcriber's note: all names omitted except Vernon)
Thomas Vernon 501 acres
III. The grantees in the deed from William Caldwell conveying one acre for a
cemetery, made Apr. 2, 1751, recorded in Lunenburg County are as follows:
Isaac Vernon
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I found this query at:
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/plains/6598/albequer.htm
As it doesn't have documentation, I can't assess its validity, but it does seem to travel in the direction that I've been talking about.
"Seeking descendants of Ralph/Raphe Coates and Wife, Elizabeth Gardner(?)Coates, who owned land in Albemarle Co. NC on the Pasquotank River, Oct 1677-1749. Elizabeth purchased 250 acres and brought over 4 people to work land, James Coates being one. Henry Coates is listed in a land deed 1718, John Coates listed in 1749 when Albemarle Co. became Pasquotank Co.. Seeking descendants of son Wm Wilson Coates, whose daughter, Louise Rene Cotes/Coates married Jacob Sutton, son of Solomon and Mary Blount of Pitt Co. NC. Solomon is a descendant of Joseph Sutton of Ireland and Mary Blount is descendant of Capt. John Blount of Virginia...
jlabetts(a)burgoyne.com dated 8-21-98
I've sent an email to this address and am hoping it is still a valid one.
This individual's info is a little at variance with what I had seen before....namely, she has a Wm Wilson Coates while I have it(via John,) from the 1769 tax list as Wilson Wm Coats. I also note that the author of this query was suggesting a link between Ralph Coates and Henry, John, etc. but apparently did not have the hard evidence to prove that linke(at that time, anyway).
Will take the opportunity to comment on the middle name of that Coates lady....Louise RENE Cotes/Coates.....while it is obviously intended to be Renee' (female variant of the male Rene')and while it is obviously of French origin, I have to say that I haven't seen that name very often among 18th Cent. English families in America. John, working from the hypothesis that John Pomery Coats is identical to this John Coates of Pasquotank, might it be possible that the appearance of this name could be a clue to the "Spanish Girl" legend??? French origin of the name notwithstanding, there were many, many persons of mixed Spanish-French-African blood in the carribean at this time(as there still are today).
Well, that's all I have now, but I am hoping to get something more substantial on Ralph Coates in the near future.
Regards to all,
Larry
FYI...Char
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 17:58:39 +0000
John Couts b. abt 1764 Keig, Aberdeen, Scotland, m. Barbara Webster, d. 5
Mar 1851 Keig, Aberdeen
1. John Couts c. 3 Jul 1807 Keig, Aberdeen, m. Mary Melven 12 Jul 1852 in
Keig, d. 17 Jan 1881 Kenmay, Aberdeen
2. James Couts c. 7 May 1809 Keig, Aberdeen
3. Alexander Couts c. 2 Aug 1811 Keig, Aberdeen, m. 2 Sep 1841 Eliz.
Epperson in Cedar Co., Iowa, d. 8 Aug 1900 South Dakota
4. *Barbara Couts c. 3 Jun 1813 Keig, Aberdeen, m. 6 Sep 1836 Archibald Law
in Tough, Aberdeen, d. 9 Jan 1852 Alford, Aberdeen
5. Jean Couts c. 1 Aug 1816 Keig, Aberdeen, m. bef 1851 Alexander Thomson,
moved to US
6. Ann Couts c. 3 Jun 1821 Keig, Aberdeen, m. 2 May 1854 Alexander Chapell
in Cedar Co., Iowa, d. Tipton, Cedar Co., Iowa
Barbara Couts is my 4th great-grandmother. Any information on her parents
John Couts and Barbara Webster would be appreciated. I also have John Couts
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NC is not my area of research but this is what is listed as it's history
as found with the county formation maps link provided in the previous
posting -
http://www.segenealogy.com/northcarolina/nc_state/history.htm
John Coates wrote:
>Not sure I would agree with the NC part, especially after 1730 or so. It
>would be more of the exception then the rule.
>John D .
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Susan McIntyre [mailto:sbmc2@chartermi.net]
>Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:26 PM
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
>Halifax Cos. NC
>
> When reference is made to a person's having been born in
>Virginia as early as 1728 or as late as 1853, this could indicate
>he/she was born in any part of the following:
>
>ILLINOIS (1781-1818)
>INDIANA (1787-1816)
>KENTUCKY (1775-1792)
>MARYLAND (1775-1792)
>NORTH CAROLINA (1720-1779)
>OHIO (1778-1803)
>TENNESSEE (1766-1803)
>WEST VIRGINIA (1769-1863)
>
>Source: (North Central Illinois Gen. Soc., Mar. 1991)
>
>County formation maps -
>http://www.segenealogy.com/virginia/va_maps.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hmmm, Coots/Couts....
Char
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Thanks, John.
I will do that; and Johnston Co. was also where that Burwell and Jordan
Coats were from. I think there has to be some sort of connection between the
Rowan crowd and those in Johnston....the common link might be in the
vicinity of Edgecombe/Halifax.
Right now, I am hoping that a very kind lady in NC will do a look-up for me
in the two books by Haun (for that Ralph Coates). Sent her an email. Will
let you know what I find(if anything).
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Coates" <John(a)coates.net>
To: <COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
Halifax Cos. NC
> I double checked. No Yerby/Irby is listed in any of the fairly
comprehensive
> deed, will, court and tax records of Rowan prior to 1800.
> While you are looking at Edgecombe/Halifax you might want to see what kind
> of Johnston Co, NC you might find. Wouldn't be surprised if something
turned
> up.
> John D
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Coats [mailto:larcoa@aspermont.esc14.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:20 AM
> To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
> Halifax Cos. NC
>
> Hi John,
> Knowing full well that my information if far from complete<g>, if I were
to
> make a tentative judgement(and I do mean tentative)on the marrige of Wm
> Coats of Rowan, I would tend to think that he married in or very near to
> Edgecombe Co. NC.
>
> And you are 100% correct in saying that you don't find Irby/Yerby as a
> surname in Rowan; but it does appear in two definitely related lines(e.g.
> Wilson Yearby Coates in Rowan and William Yerby Coats in Linc. Co. TN).
>
> From what I have seen so far, it would seem that IF Wm Coats of Rowan
was
> originally in Edgecombe, perhaps even born there, he parted ways with his
> wife's family when he removed to Rowan. From what I can tell, a good
part
> of Margaret Yerby's siblings, along with her father, wound up in
> Anson/Mecklenburg Co. NC and that is where her father apparently died(no
> date found yet).
>
> I, too, am not so sure about Wm Coats of Halifax Co. VA. That does not
seem
> to jive very well with the other Coatses over to the east in Pasquotank
Co.
> NC; I don't see a normal migration pattern there, but, I've been wrong in
> the past about such things.
>
> Not that it means anything at this point, I did an IGI search for any
hard
> data on a Henry Coats(cited in the IGI) as who could be the father of the
> John Coats that I found in Pasquotank Pct./Co. c. 1700-1770. I did find a
> Henry Coates, b. 23 Sept 1680 at Cockfield, Durham, England, son of Thomas
> Coates of Cockfield(b. 1641)by his second wife, Margaret
> Waleman(sic?Wildman?)b. 1645 Cockfield.
>
> But what I found to be the MOST tantalizing tidbit of all was that I found
> other Co. Durham Coatses, probably close kin to those in Cockfield, and
> the name RALPH Coates occurs several times, along with George,
Christopher,
> Henry, and Thomas; and you will recall that there was a Ralph Coates
living
> in Old Albemarle Co. NC in the early to mid 1680s, who was a witness(or
> something)to a land survey/deed for that Elizabeth Coates and presumed
son,
> James, in 1694.
>
> I had to leave the library the other day before I had a chance to copy all
> of the data on that Ralph Coates(curse it), and I don't know when I'll get
> back to that matter; if anyone on the list has access to the following
book
> and can get the citations on that Ralph Coates, I would be most grateful:
>
> OLD ALBEMARLE COUNTY NC: Book of Land Warrants and Surveys 1681-1706., by
> Haun.
>
> Anyway, I am going to pursue this Edgecombe>Pasquotank lead some more and
> will post whatever I manage to find.
> Regards to all,
> Larry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Coates" <John(a)coates.net>
> To: <COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
> Halifax Cos. NC
>
>
> > Hi Larry,
> > I think you might be on the right track. Not sure I see the Yerby/Irby
> > connection (neither name is in Rowan) but northeast NC/Rowan connection
is
> > quite probable. Halifax was formed from Edgecombe county in 1758 and
> > Edgecombe is one county over from Johnston County. Also, as Charlotte
> > pointed out, the William from Halifax, VA may or may not be connected
with
> > these folks in Halifax, Edgecombe NC.
> >
> > John
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Coats [mailto:larcoa@aspermont.esc14.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:56 PM
> > To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq.,
Edgecombe,
> > Halifax Cos. NC
> >
> > Hi Linda,
> > Now that you mention that important fact, I would have to agree with you
> > that there would have to be two different John's here; however, even so,
> the
> > John in Edgecombe has to be the one that is my principal focus.
> > Actually, that helps render the chronology a little less messy, now that
I
> > look at it.
> > What would help me a little here is to get more data on the George
Coats,
> > Malachi Coats, James Coats, Wm James Coats, and the Wilson W. Coats who
> are
> > all listed on that Pasquotank1769 tax list that John so helpfully cited
a
> > while back.....clearly they were all b.on or before abt 1749 or so, but
if
> > my hunch is right, then most of these Coats males were b.c. 1718-30 or
so,
> > and right now, I would tend to make all of them sons of the John Coats
who
> > d. in Pasquotank in 1770.
> > Clearly, if I could camp out in the NC state archives for about a month
or
> > two, I might find more.<g>
> > Thanks again for the observation/correction.
> > Larry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
> > To: <COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq.,
Edgecombe,
> > Halifax Cos. NC
> >
> >
> > > This was quite helpful. Thanks. Do you think that the John Coats in
> > > Halifax Co., NC is the same one as the John in Edgcombe Co., NC? I
> > suspect
> > > it's two different Johns. I say this because the John Coats in
Halifax
> > is
> > > the likely father of William Coats of Halifax Co. and William's DNA
has
> > > matched Marmaduke Coate's family. Linda
> > > At 01:28 PM 6/24/2003, you wrote:
> > > >Hello all,
> > > >After sorting through some of the Pasquotank data that John posted,
> > > >thought I would put some of this(and other data) in more or less
> > > >chronological order, hoping that someone might see something useful
or
> > > >suggestive; if anyone can add to this, please feel free:
> > > >
> > > >c. 1680s...a Ralph Coates appears a witnessing deeds in Old Albemarle
> > > >Co./colony NC(apparently an official of the colony/county). Whether
he
> > is
> > > >any relation to the Pasquotank Coatses listed below is anyone's
guess.
> > > >
> > > >1694: Land grant to Elizabeth Coates for four headrights, including
a
> > > >James Coates, James Mackmurren, Jane Mackmurren, and Wm Walkins(sic
s/b
> > > >"Watkins"?)in Pasquotank Pct on "New Begun" Creek,
> > > >Albermarle. Note: Mackmurren is a surname found in Argyllshire and
in
> > N.
> > > >Ireland. Could this Elizabeth Coates have come from N. Ireland????)
> > > >
> > > >c. 1700-18: Per a LDS PRF, a John Coats is born in Pasquotank Co. NC,
> > > >cited as the son of a Henry Coats.
> > > >
> > > >1748-1752: John Coats receives 450 acres in Pasquotank Co. NC
> > > >
> > > >1752: Joseph Coats and wife, Ann, mentioned in Halifax Co. deed.
> > > >
> > > >1760: Thomas Coats receives 130 acres in Edgecombe Co. NC
> > > >
> > > >1760-70?? Henry "Cotes" of Perquimans Co. NC(and later of Rowan) said
> to
> > > >have married Sussanah Elliott roughly about this time(no record
extant,
> > so
> > > >the marriage date is John's best estimate, and I believe it to be an
> > > >accurate one).
> > > >
> > > >1761: John Coats mentioned in a Halifax Co. NC deed.
> > > > John Coats also mentioned as a sworn chain carrier in a
> land
> > > > survey n Edgecombe Co. NC
> > > >
> > > >1762: John Coats mentioned in an Edgecombe Co. NC
deeds/surveys..There
> > is
> > > >also a record of a survey for a James Tucker for 700 ac. in Edgecombe
> and
> > > >this land adjoined John Coates AND a Green Hill, grandson of a SION
> Hill
> > > >b. 1654 Isle of Wight Co. VA.(Noted here as I know that the Wm
> > Irby/Yerby,
> > > >who was in Edgecombe Co. NC in 1757 was the illegitimate son of Col.
Wm
> > > >Irby and a Mary GREEN, and that there is a good chance that Wm Coats
of
> > > >Rowan was married to Margaret Irby/Yerby, dau. of Wm Irby of
Edgecombe;
> > > >might be suggesting that the given name of Sion MAY have come into
the
> > > >Coats family via the Irby/Yerby connection)
> > > >
> > > > 1762: A John and William Coats are mentioned in Halifax Co. deed
> > records.
> > > >
> > > >1769: George, James, John, Malachi, William and Wilson W. Coats are
> > > >listed as taxpayers in Pasquotank Co. NC in this year.
> > > >
> > > >1770: Per a LDS PRF, a John Coats is cited as having died in
> Pasquotank
> > > >Co. NC.
> > > > **************
> > > >Sources:
> > > >
> > > >THE GRANVILLE DISTRICT OF NC 1748-1763 Vol.I, II and III by
Hoffmann.
> > > >
> > > >OLD ALBEMARLE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA, Book of Land Warrants and
Surveys,
> > > >1681-1706, by Haun.
> > > >
> > > >NC TAXPAYERS 1701-1786 by Ratcliff. 1986.
> > > >
> > > >THE DEEDS OF HALIFAX CO. NC 1758-1771 by Bradley.
> > > >
> > > >LDS PRF on John Coats of Pasquotank.
> > > >
> > > >IRBY: AN AMERICAN SAGA by Dennis Moore
> > > >
> > > >Email(re: Irby/Yerby family)from Hildred Carlson 24 Apr 2003
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > LINDA COATE,
> > > Columbus, Ohio
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I double checked. No Yerby/Irby is listed in any of the fairly comprehensive
deed, will, court and tax records of Rowan prior to 1800.
While you are looking at Edgecombe/Halifax you might want to see what kind
of Johnston Co, NC you might find. Wouldn't be surprised if something turned
up.
John D
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Coats [mailto:larcoa@aspermont.esc14.net]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:20 AM
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
Halifax Cos. NC
Hi John,
Knowing full well that my information if far from complete<g>, if I were to
make a tentative judgement(and I do mean tentative)on the marrige of Wm
Coats of Rowan, I would tend to think that he married in or very near to
Edgecombe Co. NC.
And you are 100% correct in saying that you don't find Irby/Yerby as a
surname in Rowan; but it does appear in two definitely related lines(e.g.
Wilson Yearby Coates in Rowan and William Yerby Coats in Linc. Co. TN).
From what I have seen so far, it would seem that IF Wm Coats of Rowan was
originally in Edgecombe, perhaps even born there, he parted ways with his
wife's family when he removed to Rowan. From what I can tell, a good part
of Margaret Yerby's siblings, along with her father, wound up in
Anson/Mecklenburg Co. NC and that is where her father apparently died(no
date found yet).
I, too, am not so sure about Wm Coats of Halifax Co. VA. That does not seem
to jive very well with the other Coatses over to the east in Pasquotank Co.
NC; I don't see a normal migration pattern there, but, I've been wrong in
the past about such things.
Not that it means anything at this point, I did an IGI search for any hard
data on a Henry Coats(cited in the IGI) as who could be the father of the
John Coats that I found in Pasquotank Pct./Co. c. 1700-1770. I did find a
Henry Coates, b. 23 Sept 1680 at Cockfield, Durham, England, son of Thomas
Coates of Cockfield(b. 1641)by his second wife, Margaret
Waleman(sic?Wildman?)b. 1645 Cockfield.
But what I found to be the MOST tantalizing tidbit of all was that I found
other Co. Durham Coatses, probably close kin to those in Cockfield, and
the name RALPH Coates occurs several times, along with George, Christopher,
Henry, and Thomas; and you will recall that there was a Ralph Coates living
in Old Albemarle Co. NC in the early to mid 1680s, who was a witness(or
something)to a land survey/deed for that Elizabeth Coates and presumed son,
James, in 1694.
I had to leave the library the other day before I had a chance to copy all
of the data on that Ralph Coates(curse it), and I don't know when I'll get
back to that matter; if anyone on the list has access to the following book
and can get the citations on that Ralph Coates, I would be most grateful:
OLD ALBEMARLE COUNTY NC: Book of Land Warrants and Surveys 1681-1706., by
Haun.
Anyway, I am going to pursue this Edgecombe>Pasquotank lead some more and
will post whatever I manage to find.
Regards to all,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Coates" <John(a)coates.net>
To: <COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
Halifax Cos. NC
> Hi Larry,
> I think you might be on the right track. Not sure I see the Yerby/Irby
> connection (neither name is in Rowan) but northeast NC/Rowan connection is
> quite probable. Halifax was formed from Edgecombe county in 1758 and
> Edgecombe is one county over from Johnston County. Also, as Charlotte
> pointed out, the William from Halifax, VA may or may not be connected with
> these folks in Halifax, Edgecombe NC.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Coats [mailto:larcoa@aspermont.esc14.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:56 PM
> To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
> Halifax Cos. NC
>
> Hi Linda,
> Now that you mention that important fact, I would have to agree with you
> that there would have to be two different John's here; however, even so,
the
> John in Edgecombe has to be the one that is my principal focus.
> Actually, that helps render the chronology a little less messy, now that I
> look at it.
> What would help me a little here is to get more data on the George Coats,
> Malachi Coats, James Coats, Wm James Coats, and the Wilson W. Coats who
are
> all listed on that Pasquotank1769 tax list that John so helpfully cited a
> while back.....clearly they were all b.on or before abt 1749 or so, but if
> my hunch is right, then most of these Coats males were b.c. 1718-30 or so,
> and right now, I would tend to make all of them sons of the John Coats who
> d. in Pasquotank in 1770.
> Clearly, if I could camp out in the NC state archives for about a month or
> two, I might find more.<g>
> Thanks again for the observation/correction.
> Larry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
> To: <COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
> Halifax Cos. NC
>
>
> > This was quite helpful. Thanks. Do you think that the John Coats in
> > Halifax Co., NC is the same one as the John in Edgcombe Co., NC? I
> suspect
> > it's two different Johns. I say this because the John Coats in Halifax
> is
> > the likely father of William Coats of Halifax Co. and William's DNA has
> > matched Marmaduke Coate's family. Linda
> > At 01:28 PM 6/24/2003, you wrote:
> > >Hello all,
> > >After sorting through some of the Pasquotank data that John posted,
> > >thought I would put some of this(and other data) in more or less
> > >chronological order, hoping that someone might see something useful or
> > >suggestive; if anyone can add to this, please feel free:
> > >
> > >c. 1680s...a Ralph Coates appears a witnessing deeds in Old Albemarle
> > >Co./colony NC(apparently an official of the colony/county). Whether he
> is
> > >any relation to the Pasquotank Coatses listed below is anyone's guess.
> > >
> > >1694: Land grant to Elizabeth Coates for four headrights, including a
> > >James Coates, James Mackmurren, Jane Mackmurren, and Wm Walkins(sic s/b
> > >"Watkins"?)in Pasquotank Pct on "New Begun" Creek,
> > >Albermarle. Note: Mackmurren is a surname found in Argyllshire and in
> N.
> > >Ireland. Could this Elizabeth Coates have come from N. Ireland????)
> > >
> > >c. 1700-18: Per a LDS PRF, a John Coats is born in Pasquotank Co. NC,
> > >cited as the son of a Henry Coats.
> > >
> > >1748-1752: John Coats receives 450 acres in Pasquotank Co. NC
> > >
> > >1752: Joseph Coats and wife, Ann, mentioned in Halifax Co. deed.
> > >
> > >1760: Thomas Coats receives 130 acres in Edgecombe Co. NC
> > >
> > >1760-70?? Henry "Cotes" of Perquimans Co. NC(and later of Rowan) said
to
> > >have married Sussanah Elliott roughly about this time(no record extant,
> so
> > >the marriage date is John's best estimate, and I believe it to be an
> > >accurate one).
> > >
> > >1761: John Coats mentioned in a Halifax Co. NC deed.
> > > John Coats also mentioned as a sworn chain carrier in a
land
> > > survey n Edgecombe Co. NC
> > >
> > >1762: John Coats mentioned in an Edgecombe Co. NC deeds/surveys..There
> is
> > >also a record of a survey for a James Tucker for 700 ac. in Edgecombe
and
> > >this land adjoined John Coates AND a Green Hill, grandson of a SION
Hill
> > >b. 1654 Isle of Wight Co. VA.(Noted here as I know that the Wm
> Irby/Yerby,
> > >who was in Edgecombe Co. NC in 1757 was the illegitimate son of Col. Wm
> > >Irby and a Mary GREEN, and that there is a good chance that Wm Coats of
> > >Rowan was married to Margaret Irby/Yerby, dau. of Wm Irby of Edgecombe;
> > >might be suggesting that the given name of Sion MAY have come into the
> > >Coats family via the Irby/Yerby connection)
> > >
> > > 1762: A John and William Coats are mentioned in Halifax Co. deed
> records.
> > >
> > >1769: George, James, John, Malachi, William and Wilson W. Coats are
> > >listed as taxpayers in Pasquotank Co. NC in this year.
> > >
> > >1770: Per a LDS PRF, a John Coats is cited as having died in
Pasquotank
> > >Co. NC.
> > > **************
> > >Sources:
> > >
> > >THE GRANVILLE DISTRICT OF NC 1748-1763 Vol.I, II and III by Hoffmann.
> > >
> > >OLD ALBEMARLE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA, Book of Land Warrants and Surveys,
> > >1681-1706, by Haun.
> > >
> > >NC TAXPAYERS 1701-1786 by Ratcliff. 1986.
> > >
> > >THE DEEDS OF HALIFAX CO. NC 1758-1771 by Bradley.
> > >
> > >LDS PRF on John Coats of Pasquotank.
> > >
> > >IRBY: AN AMERICAN SAGA by Dennis Moore
> > >
> > >Email(re: Irby/Yerby family)from Hildred Carlson 24 Apr 2003
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Not sure I would agree with the NC part, especially after 1730 or so. It
would be more of the exception then the rule.
John D .
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From: Susan McIntyre [mailto:sbmc2@chartermi.net]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:26 PM
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
Halifax Cos. NC
When reference is made to a person's having been born in
Virginia as early as 1728 or as late as 1853, this could indicate
he/she was born in any part of the following:
ILLINOIS (1781-1818)
INDIANA (1787-1816)
KENTUCKY (1775-1792)
MARYLAND (1775-1792)
NORTH CAROLINA (1720-1779)
OHIO (1778-1803)
TENNESSEE (1766-1803)
WEST VIRGINIA (1769-1863)
Source: (North Central Illinois Gen. Soc., Mar. 1991)
County formation maps -
http://www.segenealogy.com/virginia/va_maps.htm
Linda J. Coate wrote:
> Some of the time that county was in VA and some of the time it was in
> NC just to confuse matters.
> At 11:13 PM 6/26/2003, you wrote:
>
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Could be confusion with the boundaries, could be confusion with the research
as well. First Halifax Revolutionary District, NC was quite large; it
included Edgecombe, Franklin, Halifax, Martin, Nash, Northampton, and Warren
counties. To further complicate matters, names appearing on the list can and
often are from other areas as well. You can find several what appear to be
Rowan County names listed for example. In most cases the records don't
contain enough detail to pinpoint where the person is from. From the record
cited, can it be clearly determined that the person is from VA?
I'm quite skeptical that the folks on the Halifax NC census for 1786 or 1790
would be the same as those in Halifax VA. The counties have no common
boundary. Indeed several counties separate them. Halifax County VA borders
Caswell, Person and Granville counties in NC. Halifax NC is 2 counties to
the east (Vance & Warren) and one to south (North Hampton) from the VA
border.
As Charlotte indicated, there needs to be more lot more data before we can
connect these folks.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda J. Coate [mailto:lcoate@ancestrees.com]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 5:06 AM
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COATES-L] William of Halifax Co., VA/NC
Here's some of the info on William of Halifax Co., VA that shows the
confusion in boundaries. "He is listed in various records for Halifax
Co., both on the VA and NC sides of the Roanoke River. All of his
children were born in Halifax Co. On Nov. 4, 1782, William received one
lb, ten shillings, eight pence from the Board of Auditors, Halifax
pension payment. He lived in District
13, of Halifax Co., NC in a 1786 state census along with a Benjamin
Coats. There were 4 females, 1 male between age 21 and 60 and one male
either younger than 21 or over age 60 in this 1786 census. He and
Benjamin are both not in the 1790 census. Many families opted out of
being included in that census, so it doesn't necessarily mean that they had
temporarily moved away although he might be the William Coats in the 1790
census for adjoining Johnston Co., VA. William died between Dec 2 (when
he wrote his will) and Dec 28, 1812 when his will was probated in Hallifax
Co., VA. (C-739, 996, 1086, 1635, 1650, 1660, E)".
LINDA COATE,
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Here's some of the info on William of Halifax Co., VA that shows the
confusion in boundaries. "He is listed in various records for Halifax
Co., both on the VA and NC sides of the Roanoke River. All of his
children were born in Halifax Co. On Nov. 4, 1782, William received one
lb, ten shillings, eight pence from the Board of Auditors, Halifax
District, NC for a Revolutionary War pension payment. He lived in District
13, of Halifax Co., NC in a 1786 state census along with a Benjamin
Coats. There were 4 females, 1 male between age 21 and 60 and one male
either younger than 21 or over age 60 in this 1786 census. He and
Benjamin are both not in the 1790 census. Many families opted out of
being included in that census, so it doesn't necessarily mean that they had
temporarily moved away although he might be the William Coats in the 1790
census for adjoining Johnston Co., VA. William died between Dec 2 (when
he wrote his will) and Dec 28, 1812 when his will was probated in Hallifax
Co., VA. (C-739, 996, 1086, 1635, 1650, 1660, E)".
LINDA COATE,
Columbus, Ohio
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Well, I think we'd have to have more info to determine if they are the same
Williams....I would have thought all the Coats in SC were related but we
have what? 3 or 4 unrelated lines comes out of there...so I think we need
to treat these as two different people until something else comes up...it
seems that a Ben and Will in the same county would match more with John and
Larry, than the VA William...
Char
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From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
Halifax Cos. NC
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:16:36 -0400
Some of the time that county was in VA and some of the time it was in NC
just to confuse matters.
At 11:13 PM 6/26/2003, you wrote:
>Wasn't that William in Halifax County VA rather than Halifax County NC?
>The one connected with Marm?
>
>
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "Larry Coats" <larcoa(a)aspermont.esc14.net>
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
>Halifax Cos. NC
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:55:56 -0500
>
>Hi Linda,
>Now that you mention that important fact, I would have to agree with you
>that there would have to be two different John's here; however, even so,
>the
>John in Edgecombe has to be the one that is my principal focus.
>Actually, that helps render the chronology a little less messy, now that I
>look at it.
>What would help me a little here is to get more data on the George Coats,
>Malachi Coats, James Coats, Wm James Coats, and the Wilson W. Coats who are
>all listed on that Pasquotank1769 tax list that John so helpfully cited a
>while back.....clearly they were all b.on or before abt 1749 or so, but if
>my hunch is right, then most of these Coats males were b.c. 1718-30 or so,
>and right now, I would tend to make all of them sons of the John Coats who
>d. in Pasquotank in 1770.
>Clearly, if I could camp out in the NC state archives for about a month or
>two, I might find more.<g>
>Thanks again for the observation/correction.
>Larry
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
>To: <COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
>Halifax Cos. NC
>
>
> > This was quite helpful. Thanks. Do you think that the John Coats in
> > Halifax Co., NC is the same one as the John in Edgcombe Co., NC? I
>suspect
> > it's two different Johns. I say this because the John Coats in Halifax
>is
> > the likely father of William Coats of Halifax Co. and William's DNA has
> > matched Marmaduke Coate's family. Linda
> > At 01:28 PM 6/24/2003, you wrote:
> > >Hello all,
> > >After sorting through some of the Pasquotank data that John posted,
> > >thought I would put some of this(and other data) in more or less
> > >chronological order, hoping that someone might see something useful or
> > >suggestive; if anyone can add to this, please feel free:
> > >
> > >c. 1680s...a Ralph Coates appears a witnessing deeds in Old Albemarle
> > >Co./colony NC(apparently an official of the colony/county). Whether he
>is
> > >any relation to the Pasquotank Coatses listed below is anyone's guess.
> > >
> > >1694: Land grant to Elizabeth Coates for four headrights, including a
> > >James Coates, James Mackmurren, Jane Mackmurren, and Wm Walkins(sic s/b
> > >"Watkins"?)in Pasquotank Pct on "New Begun" Creek,
> > >Albermarle. Note: Mackmurren is a surname found in Argyllshire and in
>N.
> > >Ireland. Could this Elizabeth Coates have come from N. Ireland????)
> > >
> > >c. 1700-18: Per a LDS PRF, a John Coats is born in Pasquotank Co. NC,
> > >cited as the son of a Henry Coats.
> > >
> > >1748-1752: John Coats receives 450 acres in Pasquotank Co. NC
> > >
> > >1752: Joseph Coats and wife, Ann, mentioned in Halifax Co. deed.
> > >
> > >1760: Thomas Coats receives 130 acres in Edgecombe Co. NC
> > >
> > >1760-70?? Henry "Cotes" of Perquimans Co. NC(and later of Rowan) said
>to
> > >have married Sussanah Elliott roughly about this time(no record extant,
>so
> > >the marriage date is John's best estimate, and I believe it to be an
> > >accurate one).
> > >
> > >1761: John Coats mentioned in a Halifax Co. NC deed.
> > > John Coats also mentioned as a sworn chain carrier in a
>land
> > > survey n Edgecombe Co. NC
> > >
> > >1762: John Coats mentioned in an Edgecombe Co. NC deeds/surveys..There
>is
> > >also a record of a survey for a James Tucker for 700 ac. in Edgecombe
>and
> > >this land adjoined John Coates AND a Green Hill, grandson of a SION
>Hill
> > >b. 1654 Isle of Wight Co. VA.(Noted here as I know that the Wm
>Irby/Yerby,
> > >who was in Edgecombe Co. NC in 1757 was the illegitimate son of Col. Wm
> > >Irby and a Mary GREEN, and that there is a good chance that Wm Coats of
> > >Rowan was married to Margaret Irby/Yerby, dau. of Wm Irby of Edgecombe;
> > >might be suggesting that the given name of Sion MAY have come into the
> > >Coats family via the Irby/Yerby connection)
> > >
> > > 1762: A John and William Coats are mentioned in Halifax Co. deed
>records.
> > >
> > >1769: George, James, John, Malachi, William and Wilson W. Coats are
> > >listed as taxpayers in Pasquotank Co. NC in this year.
> > >
> > >1770: Per a LDS PRF, a John Coats is cited as having died in
>Pasquotank
> > >Co. NC.
> > > **************
> > >Sources:
> > >
> > >THE GRANVILLE DISTRICT OF NC 1748-1763 Vol.I, II and III by Hoffmann.
> > >
> > >OLD ALBEMARLE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA, Book of Land Warrants and Surveys,
> > >1681-1706, by Haun.
> > >
> > >NC TAXPAYERS 1701-1786 by Ratcliff. 1986.
> > >
> > >THE DEEDS OF HALIFAX CO. NC 1758-1771 by Bradley.
> > >
> > >LDS PRF on John Coats of Pasquotank.
> > >
> > >IRBY: AN AMERICAN SAGA by Dennis Moore
> > >
> > >Email(re: Irby/Yerby family)from Hildred Carlson 24 Apr 2003
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Well, I think the problem with just contacting a list of names, is: they
don't know you from Adam...and I would be suspecious of anyone calling out
of the blue and asking for a DNA sample...wouldn't you?
Besides, that wouldn't really help with an upline for them, unless they were
also doing family research....
Char
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From: John Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net>
To: Charlotte Coats <coats(a)hotmail.com>
CC: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] DNA update
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 06:35:56 -0500
Char; This is Burton Coats of Oklahoma. I paid for his test, and got his
name from Kathleen Woodrow, who has done a lot of work on the Coats family.
I'll contact her for Burton's earliest proven ancestor.
On another subject, (OK, now noboby laugh) I was just perusing my copies of
the "Coats Family Heritage", all three editions, which I first ordered in
1987, the last being in 1997. This operation was shut down by the Ohio
Attorney General's office. However, I found all three to be quite
interesting, despite a few mistakes and omissions. Bottom line: In the 1997
version, there are listed several hundred Coats families listed w/names and
addresses. Now, if there is someone out there who is very ambitious, and has
lots of time, theses Coatses could be contacted and asked to do DNA testing.
Linda? I know the names and addresses are very accurate as to my cousins,
uncles, dad, etc. Anyone out there interested? Anyone? Anyone? I'd be happy
to copy the pages and send to anyone who has the time and inclination.
JWCoats
Charlotte Coats wrote:
>
>
>The last test result is back...matchs Marm's group...but I have not info on
>how....
>
>Char
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Some of the time that county was in VA and some of the time it was in NC
just to confuse matters.
At 11:13 PM 6/26/2003, you wrote:
>Wasn't that William in Halifax County VA rather than Halifax County
>NC? The one connected with Marm?
>
>
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "Larry Coats" <larcoa(a)aspermont.esc14.net>
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
>Halifax Cos. NC
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:55:56 -0500
>
>Hi Linda,
>Now that you mention that important fact, I would have to agree with you
>that there would have to be two different John's here; however, even so, the
>John in Edgecombe has to be the one that is my principal focus.
>Actually, that helps render the chronology a little less messy, now that I
>look at it.
>What would help me a little here is to get more data on the George Coats,
>Malachi Coats, James Coats, Wm James Coats, and the Wilson W. Coats who are
>all listed on that Pasquotank1769 tax list that John so helpfully cited a
>while back.....clearly they were all b.on or before abt 1749 or so, but if
>my hunch is right, then most of these Coats males were b.c. 1718-30 or so,
>and right now, I would tend to make all of them sons of the John Coats who
>d. in Pasquotank in 1770.
>Clearly, if I could camp out in the NC state archives for about a month or
>two, I might find more.<g>
>Thanks again for the observation/correction.
>Larry
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
>To: <COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Coats chronology in Pasquotank, Perq., Edgecombe,
>Halifax Cos. NC
>
>
> > This was quite helpful. Thanks. Do you think that the John Coats in
> > Halifax Co., NC is the same one as the John in Edgcombe Co., NC? I
>suspect
> > it's two different Johns. I say this because the John Coats in Halifax
>is
> > the likely father of William Coats of Halifax Co. and William's DNA has
> > matched Marmaduke Coate's family. Linda
> > At 01:28 PM 6/24/2003, you wrote:
> > >Hello all,
> > >After sorting through some of the Pasquotank data that John posted,
> > >thought I would put some of this(and other data) in more or less
> > >chronological order, hoping that someone might see something useful or
> > >suggestive; if anyone can add to this, please feel free:
> > >
> > >c. 1680s...a Ralph Coates appears a witnessing deeds in Old Albemarle
> > >Co./colony NC(apparently an official of the colony/county). Whether he
>is
> > >any relation to the Pasquotank Coatses listed below is anyone's guess.
> > >
> > >1694: Land grant to Elizabeth Coates for four headrights, including a
> > >James Coates, James Mackmurren, Jane Mackmurren, and Wm Walkins(sic s/b
> > >"Watkins"?)in Pasquotank Pct on "New Begun" Creek,
> > >Albermarle. Note: Mackmurren is a surname found in Argyllshire and in
>N.
> > >Ireland. Could this Elizabeth Coates have come from N. Ireland????)
> > >
> > >c. 1700-18: Per a LDS PRF, a John Coats is born in Pasquotank Co. NC,
> > >cited as the son of a Henry Coats.
> > >
> > >1748-1752: John Coats receives 450 acres in Pasquotank Co. NC
> > >
> > >1752: Joseph Coats and wife, Ann, mentioned in Halifax Co. deed.
> > >
> > >1760: Thomas Coats receives 130 acres in Edgecombe Co. NC
> > >
> > >1760-70?? Henry "Cotes" of Perquimans Co. NC(and later of Rowan) said to
> > >have married Sussanah Elliott roughly about this time(no record extant,
>so
> > >the marriage date is John's best estimate, and I believe it to be an
> > >accurate one).
> > >
> > >1761: John Coats mentioned in a Halifax Co. NC deed.
> > > John Coats also mentioned as a sworn chain carrier in a land
> > > survey n Edgecombe Co. NC
> > >
> > >1762: John Coats mentioned in an Edgecombe Co. NC deeds/surveys..There
>is
> > >also a record of a survey for a James Tucker for 700 ac. in Edgecombe and
> > >this land adjoined John Coates AND a Green Hill, grandson of a SION Hill
> > >b. 1654 Isle of Wight Co. VA.(Noted here as I know that the Wm
>Irby/Yerby,
> > >who was in Edgecombe Co. NC in 1757 was the illegitimate son of Col. Wm
> > >Irby and a Mary GREEN, and that there is a good chance that Wm Coats of
> > >Rowan was married to Margaret Irby/Yerby, dau. of Wm Irby of Edgecombe;
> > >might be suggesting that the given name of Sion MAY have come into the
> > >Coats family via the Irby/Yerby connection)
> > >
> > > 1762: A John and William Coats are mentioned in Halifax Co. deed
>records.
> > >
> > >1769: George, James, John, Malachi, William and Wilson W. Coats are
> > >listed as taxpayers in Pasquotank Co. NC in this year.
> > >
> > >1770: Per a LDS PRF, a John Coats is cited as having died in Pasquotank
> > >Co. NC.
> > > **************
> > >Sources:
> > >
> > >THE GRANVILLE DISTRICT OF NC 1748-1763 Vol.I, II and III by Hoffmann.
> > >
> > >OLD ALBEMARLE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA, Book of Land Warrants and Surveys,
> > >1681-1706, by Haun.
> > >
> > >NC TAXPAYERS 1701-1786 by Ratcliff. 1986.
> > >
> > >THE DEEDS OF HALIFAX CO. NC 1758-1771 by Bradley.
> > >
> > >LDS PRF on John Coats of Pasquotank.
> > >
> > >IRBY: AN AMERICAN SAGA by Dennis Moore
> > >
> > >Email(re: Irby/Yerby family)from Hildred Carlson 24 Apr 2003
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Char; This is Burton Coats of Oklahoma. I paid for his test, and got
his name from Kathleen Woodrow, who has done a lot of work on the Coats
family. I'll contact her for Burton's earliest proven ancestor.
On another subject, (OK, now noboby laugh) I was just perusing my copies
of the "Coats Family Heritage", all three editions, which I first
ordered in 1987, the last being in 1997. This operation was shut down by
the Ohio Attorney General's office. However, I found all three to be
quite interesting, despite a few mistakes and omissions. Bottom line: In
the 1997 version, there are listed several hundred Coats families listed
w/names and addresses. Now, if there is someone out there who is very
ambitious, and has lots of time, theses Coatses could be contacted and
asked to do DNA testing. Linda? I know the names and addresses are very
accurate as to my cousins, uncles, dad, etc. Anyone out there
interested? Anyone? Anyone? I'd be happy to copy the pages and send to
anyone who has the time and inclination.
JWCoats
Charlotte Coats wrote:
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> The last test result is back...matchs Marm's group...but I have not
> info on how....
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