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John what was the name of Elizabeth's parents....
Date: 1784/09/03
Description: WEBSTER, WILLIAM, PLAT FOR 176 ACRES BETWEEN KINGS AND GILDERS
CREEKS, NINETY SIX DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY ROBERT HANNA.
Names Indexed: WEBSTER, WILLIAM/HANNA, ROBERT/DUGGANS, THOMAS/JOHNSTON,
JAMES/SHEARER, JAMES/NICOLL, SOLOMON/
Locations: NINETY SIX DISTRICT/KINGS CREEK/GILDER CREEK
Type: PLAT/
&&&&&&&&&&
Date: 1791/02/16
Description: WEBSTER, WILLIAM, PLAT FOR 70 ACRES ON KINGS CREEK, NINETY SIX
DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY ROBERT HANNA.
Names Indexed: WEBSTER, WILLIAM/HANNA, ROBERT/KING, CHARLES/CRAWLES,
JAMES/DUGAN, THOMAS/FORD, PERIGGIN/
Locations: NINETY SIX DISTRICT/KINGS CREEK/ENOREE RIVER
Type: PLAT/
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Date: 1716/03/21
Description: WEBSTER, DAVID, ABSTRACT OF LAND GRANT FOR 500 ACRES IN
COLLETON COUNTY.
Names Indexed: WEBSTER, DAVID////
Locations: COLLETON COUNTY//
Type: ABSTRACT OF LAND GRANT//
***************
Date: 1764/07/06
Description: WEBSTER, WILLIAM, PLAT FOR 550 ACRES ON SAVANNAH RIVER.
Names Indexed: WEBSTER, WILLIAM/TIPPING, JOSEPH/FILPUT, THOMAS/PERRY,
ISAAC/TROUP, JOHN/
Locations: SAVANNAH RIVER/
Type: PLAT/
*******************
Date: 1765/07/16
Description: WEBSTER, WILLIAM, MEMORIAL FOR 550 ACRES ON SAVANNAH RIVER,
GRANVILLE COUNTY.
Names Indexed: WEBSTER, WILLIAM/TIPPING, JOSEPH/FILLPUT, THOMAS/
Locations: GRANVILLE COUNTY/SAVANNAH RIVER
Type: MEMORIAL/
Topics: /
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Date: 1769
Description: WEBSTER, HENRY VS THOMAS SINGELLTON, JUDGMENT ROLL.
Names Indexed: WEBSTER, HENRY///SINGELLTON, THOMAS/
Locations: //
Type: JUDGMENT-ROLL//
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Date: 1771/12/17
Description: WEBSTER, SAMUEL, PLAT FOR 150 ACRES IN GRANVILLE COUNTY.
Names Indexed: WEBSTER, SAMUEL/GORDEN, BENJAMIN/BREMAR, JOHN/
Locations: GRANVILLE COUNTY/BOGGY GUT
Type: PLAT/
&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Date: 1799/09/24
Description: WEBSTER, BENNET C., PLAT FOR 86 ACRES ON SHOLEY CREEK,
SPARTANBURGH COUNTY, PINCKNEY DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY GABRIEL BENSON FOR JOHN
KELLEY ON JANUARY 19, 1797.
Names Indexed: WEBSTER, BENNET C./BENSON, GABRIEL/KELLEY, JOHN/WADSWORTH,
THOMAS/MITCHEN, HENRY/
Locations: SHOALLY CREEK/LAWSONS FORK CREEK/SPARTANBURG COUNTY/PINCKNEY
DISTRICT
Type: PLAT/
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
and 106 others.....
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This is from the FTDNA message board...but most interesting...
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If the Male is married to say three wives and has a total of 24 children,
what if any effect could this have on the DNA results? Could this increase
the mutation rate within a shorter time?
The answer is yes, it is entirely possible that in this scenario the
mutation rate on the Y chromosome might increase.
The male's ability to reproduce a perfect copy of his Y chromosome, and pass
on this replica to his male progeny, is akin to the functioning of a copy
machine:
The machine is capable of making precise copies many times over, but, just
as the machine's precision inevitably declines with use and age, and
subsequently begins to lose its ability to generate perfect replicas, so it
goes with the production of and passing on of a mutation-free Y chromosome.
Therefore it is somewhat more likely that a mutation might occur in a son
from the second or third wife.
But I claim that is not of any value to us.
Any testing we do on one family will not have enough data
points to bring out any change in the mutation rate.
That is untill you have in the order of 10,000 data points.
That would be 400 births accounted for at 25 markers each.
Until we get to testing thousands of markers per person
I claim any single family never be able to make a valid argument
that "my family is different our mutation rate is higher (or lower)."
For the techies:
Since the mutation rate is still understudy and not known within 50% (some
say .002 and some say .003) what is the science
testing behind the "increase" with age? And what higher rate
would one use at what age?
RE but can two mutations occur in the same generation?
Yes - as far as we know the mutations are independant events
The trasmission of a single one marker from father to son has
a .002 chance of mutating. Thus one son has 25 x.002 of seeing
one mutation and 25 x.002 x .002 (approx)) of seeing 2 mutations
and 25 x.002 x.002 x.002 of seeing 3 mutations.
Thus if you were to test 10,000 father son pairs (25 markers) you would
expect
to see about 500 one step mutations and maybe one case with
two one step mutations. I also remember (if I remember right)
that two step mutations happen at 1/14 the rate of one step mutations. Thus
out of 10,000 father son pairs you would expect
about 36 two step mutations.
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This was posted by Houston (FTDNA) from the lab...
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In about 15% of the samples we receive, we do not get a result on the first
pass at the sequencing facility. This can be caused by a number of factors,
such as a poor scrape, a bit of dust, or a marker may produce a "dual peak"
where a single peak is expected.
In all of these cases we re-run the entire sequence, which produces a new
set of scores for your sample. The two sets are compared, and the geneticist
makes a determination. Although this adds to the delivery time, it ensures
that we report accurate results.
Your patience is greatly appreciated.
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My computer crashed so I haven't been able to get for the last couple days.
It will probably take a couple more before I'm back again. To John of
Illionois, I got part of your message, but don't have your email address
currently to write you back, so try again or hopefully I'll have my data and
addresses back my Monday. Linda
I am searching for information on William Coats born 1823 and christened
at the All Saints Church in Newcastle upon Tyne, England 12 October
1823. William died 7 December 1877 in Felling, Gateshead, Co Durham. He
was married 10 March 1844 to Elizabeth Potts and I believe they had a
son, George Coates born the year they married but I have no confirmation
of that at this point.
If you have any information on any of these people I would appreciate
your help.
Thank you…
David Coates
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I believe that my ancestor is Thomas Coats/Coates who married Ann
Henderson in Newcastle upon Tyne on November 3rd, 1793 at All Saints
church. They had five children, Thomas, Andrew. Richard, Isabella,
Isaac, born between 1795 and 1806.
If you have any information on this family or their ancestors or
descendants will you please respond.
Thank you….
David Coates
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There is also a Warwick Coats in the Moses and Susannah Coates line out of
Chester County, PA
Char
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Hi Listers...
I found the following on another list and thought it would either (1)
help some of us in our research or (2) throw another curve into our
research....<g> <Probably both>
David E. Eaton, Sr., MM, MPS
deeaton(a)starpower.net
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If you have integrity, nothing else matters;
If you don't have integrity, nothing else matters.
----- Original Message -----
From: <CGarr34(a)aol.com>
To: <DENEWCAS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: May 27, 2003 07:41
Subject: [NewCastle] Coats & others
> ..from: New Castle Co. Del. Land Records - 1764-1769
> 619. Deed. 30 April 1768. Warwick Coats of the District of Southwark
in
> Co. of Philadelphia in Prov. of Penn., shipwright, and Rebecca his
wife,
> Sarah Faulkner, late Sarah Penrose of sd District, Widow, Mary Dutton
of
> the Northern Liberties of City of Phila., Widow, Robert Knox of sd
> District, merchant, and Jane his wife, and Susannah Coats of sd No.
Lib.,
> Widow, Isaac Snowden of sd City of Phila., tanner, and Emanuel EYRES
of
> Kensington in sd Co. of Phila., shipwright (sd Susannah Coats, sd
Isaac
> Snowden and sd Emanuel Eyres are Executors of the Last Will, dated 17
> April 1764, of Abraham Coats, late of sd No. Lib., tanner, dec'd. Sd
> Warwick Coats, sd Sarah Faulkner, sd Mary Dutton, sd Jane Knox and sd
> Abraham Coats were all the children of John Coats the elder, late of
sd
> City of Phila., brickmaker, dec'd., and Mary his wife, also dec'd.,
late
> Mary Hale, one of the Daughters of Warwick Hale, dec'd., formerly of
the
> Co. of New Castle, milwright), of the one part, and David Finney of
Town &
> Co. of New Castle, Esq., of the other. Witnesseth that sd Executors,
for
> the sum of 893 pounds 11 shilling sold unto sd David Finney a parcel
of
> land containing 64 acres 47 perches, situate in White Clay Creek Hun.
in
> sd Co. It bounds lands of sd Finney, Thomas Adams, Isaac Coats and
Richard
> Dennis. This includes five several lots allotted to sd Heirs of sd
Abraham
> Coats by Sheriff's Return of a Writ to make partition. One bounds
marsh of
> sd Finney, sd Isaac Coats and sd Richard Dennis, containing 27 acres
136
> perches. Another begins by Whte Clay Creek and bounds land of sd
Coats, sd
> Dennis, William Scott formerly of Daniel McFerson, sd Finney and land
> formerly of George Holingsworth, containing 274 acres 115 perches.
These
> lands part of a larger tract granted by Patent, dated 15 Jan 1675,
unto
> John Edmondson by Edmund Andros, Esq. (Book/A Vol/2 Fol/36). Then by
sd
> John Edmondson and Sarah his wife, by their Deed dated 30 Nov 1677,
sold
> to John Yeo (Book/A Fol/10). Then by sd Yeo's Deed, dated 30 April
1678,
> granted same to John Smith (Book/A Fol/37). Then by Mary Smith, the
only
> child and Heir of sd John Smith who died Intestate, by her Last Will,
> dated 19 Nov 1694, devised same to John Reed (Book/B Fol/39). Then by
sd
> John Reed by his Deed Pol dated 19 Aug 1700, granted same to Warwick
Hule,
> Grandfather of several of sd Parties of 1st part (Book/P Fol/248).
> Afterwards land divided among heirs of sd Hale by Orphan's Court of 19
Feb
> 1750. Shares allotted to George Holingsworth and Jane his wife (she
was
> daughter of James Carter and Jane his wife who was the daughter of sd
> Warwick Hule), and by their Deed dated 15 June 1751, granted their
share
> to John Coats the younger (Book/Q fol/518). Then sd Coats and Sarah
his
> wife by their Deed dated 24 April 1761 granted same to sd Warwick
Coats
> and other heirs of sd John Coats the elder, (some of them parties of
1st
> part). Signed: Robert Knox, Jane Knox, Isaac Snowden, Manuel EYRE,
Warwick
> Coats, Rebecca Coats, Sarah Falkner, Mary Dutton, Susannah Coats. Wit:
Dan
> McLonen, Thos Penrose, Saml Penrose. Rec: 18 Oct 1768. (Y1-489)
>
>
>
>
My friend, Annie (at xanadu2(a)wanadoo.fr) has asked me to post this for her; neither of us will be monitoring this list, so please adress polite, interested replies only, directly to her (if you're not interested dont write to heckle; it gives the Coppocks a bad name) Just trying to find out whether to make a large or small run, not sell anything directly :
"Im publishing a little book on the Coppocks of just my branch, (that of migrator Aaron's grandson Joseph, on thru the Benjamins, David Miles, Horace, & Paul Wilke) ... in it's present (unfinished) form, there's about 200 pages of text, 250 pages of Documentation, with a few photos & a wallchart of Cheshire Coppocks. Should be at the printer mid June, & distributed shortly after.
There may be a lot of quiet cousins out there who would rather study the line than dig for it, & beginning searchers who'd rather build on previous work & take it further, than redo the same things that everyone has done before, or save time digging for parts of the lines which we may have in common, and other "expert" searchers who will take great delight in searching out errors, & hopefully, telling me about them in a pleasant way so I can correct them for future generations. Still others, even with their own lines researched in databases, will want a book lying around for descendants to "catch the gen bug" from reading & perhaps, wanting to do it better...
I also cherish the idea of getting together with folks from the other branches, and someday, making a composite American Coppocks Tree, as well as getting together with English Coppocks searchers to make a more global tree someday. Included in this volume is a wallchart of Cheshire Coppocks, entirely documented with wills & oprs, called "Treeing the Cheshire Cat", after Alice in Wonderland's grinning pet... descendants of all Coppock lines might find this a good start in understanding how Cheshire Coppocks fit together, as well as to add on other branches from Yorkshire Lancaster, etc.
No idea what the price will be yet; it'll up to the editor, but will be modest, and is a non-profit enterprise, though my dad would have preferred that it cover it's own costs, to be autonome & not frivolous, which also would be a quaker virtue.
Advanced "pre-orders" or a sort of inquiry, will let me know whether anyone besides my immediate family may be interested in a copy, & whether to make a larger press-run ; my editor suggests I consider doing it on CD as well, which I can of course do & you can express interest in, but I think the advantage of a book is that you can leave it in the attic for a few generations until somebody's interested in genealogy again, and the format will still be usable, without technical intervention...
You're all invited to pick at it for errors and let me know what you find, but only documented corrections will be included on the following run... all final orders will go through the editor, if there's enough interest to be worth printing it. Those who have expressed interest in a copy will be notified directly when it's available.
Will trade copies for other books on Coppocks & Mobberley, especially if out of print: however, because members of the list have boasted that they will take all my data & not share theirs with me, & have indeed done that for the last few years, copies of the book will not be given out without some sort of decent, reciprocal exchange.
things I'd really like to have onhand, include:
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Earwaker's History of Cheshire
Mobberley Village by the Women's Institute
Mobberely, by the Women's Institute
Mormon LDS Microfiche :Biography of Chas. Coulson Rich 1809-1883 - # 6110799. LDS Ancestral Files (IF it has his original line)
"The Ensingers of Alsace & PA, by Raymond Martin Bell in 1907, pub by Salt Lake LDS & Microfilmed by the GenSoc of Utah in 1982.(#1307572 Item 8.
1) "the ancestry and descendants of Aaron and Amy (Cobbs) Coppock, by Alvin Lee Anderson, 1926
2) "the Genealogy of the Coppock Family: Pleasant Coppock Line
3) "Negus Family Genealogy through the Coppock line to King Egebert, 9th century(Anoka, Minnesota: Ira E. Nolte"
4) A Family History and Autobiography, by Joseph David Coppock, 1909, and
5)Ancestors and other relatives of Daniel and Anna Coppock Houghton... by Daniel Eugene Houghton
6) the Utah Woolley family, desc of Thomas Woolley & Sarach Coppock of Pa by Parkinson, Preston Woolley 1903... 8) Coppock family genealogy MSS GC 785 RMV p.n. 1952, 62 2 illlus, ports, typewritten, Q, including Coppock family, Coate family and Jay family
7) "Quaker Pioneers of the Cherokee Strip" by Sheldon Jackson
8) "OHIO CROSSROADS OF OUR NATION" about 28 pages
9) "OFFICIAL ROSTER OF THE SOLDIERS OF THE STATE OF OHIO IN THE WAR OF THE REBELLION," BOOK 9 PAGES 2652 -- R TO SHAYNE
10) Booker, Onda Minshall, Minshall Ancestry
11) Anc.of Marmaduke Coate; Society of Friends,
12) Amanda Pemberton Krell Collection, Philadelphia Historical and Genealogical Society, Phildadelphia, PA
13) Lucien Underwood, Comp.,Robert Jesse Harry, The Ancestors and Descendants of Hugh Harry and Elizabeth Brinton
14) The Underwood Families of America (New Era Printing Company, c1913),
15) Coats, "As the Tree Grows"
Just got back from vaca. Sick as a dog. Boy, Char, you and Linda are
confused about James of Edgefield and James R of Meridian. Linda, did
you get the packet I sent? I thought you both might be able to figure it
all out, since I stapled them separately. I was going to do a "Tale of
Two Jameses", but I'll just give you a short version, as I don't feel
too good.
James of Edgefield, SC was the son of John Gent. We know this, because
James sold the exact peice of land at Newberry he inherited from his
father John Gent to his brother William. Now, James of Edgefield married
Elizabeth Scott. The material sent to me from John Coates of Il. is
authentic and precious to him. I can't imagine you would question it.
One copy is the will of James of Edgefield, and the other is a bible
record. His father took him back to Edgefield at an early age to
document his ancestry. So John Coates of Whitehall, Il., is a descendent
of John Gent. Obviously, since he matches Linda and others on the
website,so all Y'all are related to John Gent.
Whoever did the Olde Coates Genealogy tried to make James of Meridian
and James of Edgefield the same person. This got Annie Sue Sumrall in to
the DAR many years ago, as they accepted that John Gent applied for a
pension for supplying the Continental Army with supplys and horseshoing.
Linda, did you get my packet?
James of Meridian is obviously related to Rev Will since our DNA matches
fairly well. Several censuses say he was born NC
and another says SC. Obviously, we don't know where he was born. His
first son, John Webster Coats was supposed to have been born in
Robertson, TN, but now I'm thinking he was born in Robertson, KY.
These are two entirely different families as shown by the DNA. I don't
want to sound too harsh about this, but I went to a lot of effort in
getting this guy tested and getting this info from him. Frankly, I'm
getting a little irritated with all this questioning of documents and
doubting information which appears credible to me. If we start studying
the material we get hold of instead of rushing to the internet for wills
and deeds, I think we'll make more progress faster. We need to study the
material, then make a list of what proof we need, and systematically do
a search or hire someone to do it. Linda, I think you have a pretty good
grasp on what I'm talking about.
Grumpy John W.
Charlotte Coats wrote:
>
> Linda, that Bible record in the kit file appears to be for the James
> Coates and Elizabeth Coates, James born June 3, 1765; all of the kids
> appear to matche except for Dempsey and they have him on the group
> sheet as dying young...but I've seen that name, just don't recall when
> or where...and James, jr has a middle initial of D.
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
> To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [COATES-L] James Coates of Edgefield District
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:22:07 -0400
>
> The family group sheet that says that James of Edgefield was James
> Robert Coats is from the old school of thinking and has basically been
> disproved. I'm glad that James, Jasper and Marcus were sons of John
> of IL, but I need to know if their birthdates have been verified as
> they are being born near the time that James of Edgefield and his
> siblings have estimated birthdates of.... so something is still
> amiss. Whomever submitted the information on John of IL, I sure
> would like to start exchanging data to figure out what is likely in
> error. Maybe it's the age of James of Edgefield and his siblings or
> maybe John of IL isn't the son of James of Edgefield.... I don't know
> at this point.
>
> At 04:49 PM 5/21/2003 -0700, Charlotte Coats wrote:
>
>> There was no name given for his wife in the obituary...so probably
>> she died before him...there was another family group sheet sent...but
>> they refer to James of Edgefield as James Robert Coats....I don't
>> know where those middle names are coming from...
>>
>> Also on the group sheet it shows John married Martha Owdom in 1830,
>> he died in 1873; another daughter is Grace Joanna "Gracey" another
>> Hannah Beale and James D. says he fell from a wagon, but not where;
>> Demsey died young it says - but I've seen the name Demsey in my
>> travels, but don't recall where or when....sooooo
>>
>> But I think that History could be pretty accurate as far as the date
>> he came to IL, recall that Rev Will left TN in 1817 and that MO
>> history was correct when it stated that he was there in 1817, so I
>> don't think we can discount that date without further research...
>>
>> I think those siblings you name are the children of the John of IL,
>> Jasper came across in my line in MO, Henry County MO census but we
>> think it was short for Joseph...so I'm not sure on that...so that
>> might have been just a popular name in those days...hmmmm....just
>> don't know....
>>
>> Do you mean James, father John, rather than James, father of John,
>> you've lost me at this point....or are you questing the birth date
>> for James given in the Bible record as 1765?
>>
>> Char
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message Follows----
>> From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
>> To: "Charlotte Coats" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [COATES-L] James Coates of Edgefield District
>> Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 19:10:43 -0400
>>
>> Your research is great. James of Edgefield definitely died in 1817
>> in SC.
>> The sources that list John Coats of Green Co., IL don't clearly
>> state when he was there except for the history stating 1830. That
>> might or might not be true. Histories are often from interviews of
>> family members that could be estimating dates instead of knowing
>> them. Deed and church records might help verify it.
>>
>> What concerns me though is when I was reading up on the info on the
>> Coats DNA page for John Coats of Ill. It states that he was the son
>> of James (who was born in 1765).... and that James had siblings named
>> Jasper, John Scott and Marcus. These are not sons of Gentleman John
>> that we know of, so there is a definite problem with what information
>> is accurate as to John's lineage from Illinois. If the history as
>> presented is accurate, then John is not the son of James of
>> Edgefield. He could be the son of another James who was the son of
>> John whom we have not found information on so far in South
>> Carolina. I don't think the history states exactly where his
>> ancestors are from in SC, so this sure opens things up. hmmmmmm.
>> But we do know this line is related to Marm...... hmmmmmm. Need to
>> do a lot more research in Illinois to verify the accuracy or
>> inaccuracy of that history.
>> I for one question the siblings to James, father of John. Two of
>> them had birthdates in the 1750s and 60s. That meant they should
>> have been land owners in SC before moving north to Illinois. Jasper
>> and Marcus aren't names I remember coming across in SC at all. Can
>> anyone else verify them to be real people from SC or Illinois for
>> that matter?
>>
>> Also, was John's wife name Martha in Illinois? Linda
>>
>> At 11:24 AM 5/21/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>> I think there is a problem with the James Coats Edgefield and his
>>> son John via Marms group....it appears to me that he was still in
>>> Edgefield at the time he was in IL in 1830 & 1837....I'm not sure
>>> son John ever left Edgefiled, not all of his land is accounted for
>>> here.....
>>>
>>> comments?
>>>
>>> Abstracts Edgefield - all original records in Coats Archive:
>>>
>>> A. James Coate will - recorded 1817
>>> 1. son: John Coate - land where James now lives containing
>>> 300 acres granted to James Scott in 1786 and one tract conveyed to
>>> James from Armstead Hall in 1895(that must be 1795 in the original
>>> will, I'll have to check that; probably the 1805 land below)
>>> 2. son: James Coate, land containing 308 acres survey of
>>> 1799, part of an original tract granted to William Mazyck in 1775 on
>>> Turkey Creek bounded by Hall, and James ?; another tract granted to
>>> Jacob McDaniel in 1896 (those 1800 dates must be incorrect probably
>>> 1796) contains 70 acres on Turkey Creek bounded by Widow Hall, James
>>> Scott (now my land), Posey, Donals, Salter, Jones and my own land.
>>>
>>> B. James Coats - deed - 1800 ( this appears to be the land willed
>>> in his will to his son James)
>>> Stephen Williams to James Coats, of Turkey Creek deed
>>> 300 Acres
>>> originally granted to Wm Mazyck in 177?
>>> on Turkey and Rocky Creeks waters of Stevens's Creek and Savannah River
>>> (gives a chain of title from Mazyck down)
>>>
>>> C. Armstead Hall to James Coats - 1805 (appears to be the land
>>> willed by James to son John)
>>> Six acres
>>> Turkey or Rocky Creek
>>> adjoins: Thomas Hall, Armstead
>>>
>>> D. George Wilson to James Coats - 1808
>>> 139 acres
>>> Turkey Creek
>>> adjoins: James Coats, Thomas Hatcher and Thomas Dozier, Benjmain
>>> Frasizer and Daniel Bird or Birden
>>>
>>> E. William Partain to James Coates - 1807 signed
>>> 50 acres
>>> Turkey Creek
>>> adjoins: James Coats, William Rearden, John Ar?ge
>>>
>>> F. William Partain to John Coats - 1821
>>> both from Edgefield district
>>> 300 or 200 and twelve acres
>>> on Rocky Creek
>>> adjoins: Thomas ?; David Thompson; Wm Partain
>>>
>>> G. Abram Anderson to John Coats
>>> dated: July 9, 1821
>>> both of Edgefield District
>>> 140 acres
>>> witness: Wm McDaniel; Edward McDaniel
>>>
>>> H. John Coats to Elza Bland - 1821
>>> both of Edgefield District
>>> 300 acres
>>> Rocky Creek and Turky Creek on Savannah River
>>> adjoins: Thomas Hart; M. Johnson; Joel McDaniel (maybe); Kindred
>>> Partain; David Thompson, dec'd
>>>
>>> I. Moore Johnson to John Coats
>>> both of Edgefield District
>>> mortgage due Oct 1, 1823
>>> land where John Coats now lives
>>> 860 acres
>>> adjoins: widow Row or Bowd; B. Frazier; Thomas Hart; Philip Raiford
>>>
>>> J. Nicholson to John Coate
>>> 264 1/2 acres
>>> Rocky Creek branch of Little Stephens Creek
>>> adjoins: Joel McLemores, Willis Adams, Jonathan Weaver
>>> dated 1828
>>> witness: James Smyly and Talbot Adams
>>>
>>> K. Abner Landrum to John Coates - 1832
>>> 240 acres
>>> cross roads of old statehouse & Mount Willing roads cross
>>> Ma? road to Thomas Doziers line; Wm Martin; Weaver road; Moses
>>> Swearingam; Jacob corner; old Mathews road
>>>
>>> L. Wm Raiford et al to John Coats - 1832
>>> Turkey Creek
>>> 808 acres
>>> adjoins: Randall Murrell, John Cogburn, M. Mims and others
>>>
>>> M. Belcher to John Coates
>>> Sheriff deed
>>> dated 1833
>>> 233 acres Rocky Creek waters of Turkey Creek and Stephens Creek
>>> adjoins: John Bouham, Moses Addison, John Coates; Nicholson's land;
>>> McLarmore
>>>
>>> N. John Coates to James Wright - 1837
>>> 240 acres
>>> Mina Creek waters of Saluda River
>>> adjoins: Mathews road and John Wright; William Martains; Moses
>>> Swaringins; Mount Willing Road
>>> James Wright, jr
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>>> O. John Coats to Jonathan Weaver - 1837
>>> 827 1/2 acres
>>> originally owned by Jacob McDaniel and Joel McLemore
>>> Turkey Creek, Big Stephens Creek
>>> adjoins: Jonathan Miner, Kengamine Frazier; John L. Jeters; George
>>> Noels; Thomas B. Harvey; Steven Tompkins
>>> surveyed 1837
>>> wife Martha signs off on deed
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Well, John, the problem is: the John he's trying to connect to was still in
SC when he was suppose to be in IL??
Char
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From: John Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] James Coates of Edgefield District
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 20:42:14 -0500
Just got back from vaca. Sick as a dog. Boy, Char, you and Linda are
confused about James of Edgefield and James R of Meridian. Linda, did you
get the packet I sent? I thought you both might be able to figure it all
out, since I stapled them separately. I was going to do a "Tale of Two
Jameses", but I'll just give you a short version, as I don't feel too good.
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Well, they were expected yesterday...but not yet....
Probably the holiday, makes the trip between lab and Houston slow...
Will let you know, of course, as soon as they're in....there should be
two...
Char
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I'm also starting to get more inquiries on DNA testing from our British
cousins....
I do hope some order kits....
I think we have some New Zealand and Australian cousins as well....
I think you will find DNA testing most helpful!!
Char
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Genetic Distance Analysis: kit 7399, .
A distance of 0 is an exact match, 1 is a single step mutation, etc..
12 Marker Analysis
Kit Name Distance
7398 1
7430 1
8715 4
7417 6
7465 6
7658 6
7668 6
8717 6
7513 7
7821 9
7419 11
7404 12
7407 13
John your group is a distance of 6 from Marm's group but only a distance of
4 from Gab...now recall Gab's group was only a distance of 4 from both Marm
and your group...hmmmmm
Anyone else want these reports run for their group let me know....I'm going
to send mine through as well....
Char
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Genetic Distance Analysis: kit 8715, .
A distance of 0 is an exact match, 1 is a single step mutation, etc..
12 Marker Analysis
Kit Distance
7399 4
7417 4
7465 4
7658 4
7668 4
8717 4
7398 5
7430 5
7513 5
7821 7
7404 10
7419 11
7407 15
There is a closer match to one in John's group than the other two in his
group...the closest is a distance of 4 for Gab....
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Those markers that mutate faster does change the genetic distance...
John, Larry and Deane are now only 1 apart....
So, I'm going to recheck the others as well....
Char
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FTDNA, now has a progress report on unreceived kits, this report is on the
home page for any outstanding kits...
We have two kits expected back today....
Char
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