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We got another kit back # 7821 ... no matches on this one...and I'm not sure
I have any info on the tree yet...
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Snniffff..... You are definitely right, but boy those Rowan Co. names
looked so right for that one. Back to the drawing board. I suppose we
should actually try to verify that he lived throughout his life in PA in
deed records or something though, if other theories keep crashing. What
William's could he be that are left?
At 08:41 AM 3/31/2003 -0800, John Coates wrote:
>Do not despair Larry. Every hypothesis we are able to disprove puts us a
>step closer to unlocking the mystery of our ancestors. Just look, between
>the DNA project and your research on Benjamin and Ann we have eliminated 5
>potential connections, substantially reducing the number of candidates. Of
>course, it would be nice to see something "proved" every now and then :).
>
>We will get there.
>John D
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Coats [mailto:larcoa@aspermont.esc14.net]
>Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 AM
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Henry Coats gson/o Moses and Susanna Coates
>
>Thanks, Charlotte,
>However, with Wm being buried at E. Caln Burying Ground, my favorite theory
>regarding the identity of Wm Coats of Rowan was also just buried!<g> I
>think I'm just going to stop theorizing for a while as it seems to be
>getting very little production! :-/
>
>So, as it stands now, I don't see how Wm of Rowan or Henry of Rowan could
>have a connection to the line of Moses Coates and Sussanah Weldon. I think,
>with the help of Linda and Charlotte, I've pretty much exhausted the list of
>known, eligible candidates.
>Totally stumped now.
>Larry
>
>
>
>
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We have 3 kits waiting to be shipped to the lab...one is a 25 marker test,
the other 2 are new kits just received by Houston and waiting to be shipped
to the lab...
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Must be the Henry I saw on another list of Thomas' children; however, it is
all moot now.
I am still agreed with Linda that that Abner Coats in Rowan must be some
connection with Benjamin and Ann Longstreth Coates of PA, however, I see no
way to connect either William Coats of Rowan or Henry Coats of Rowan(given
their estimated birthdates)to Benjamin and Ann Longstreth Coates.....
I know that Benjamin had brothers, but as far as I can tell, not one of them
had a son named Wm or Henry who would match with Wm and Henry in Rowan.
If I am overlooking an eligible candidate among the sons of Moses, would
someone please bring him to my attention.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Coats" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
To: <COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: [COATES-L] Henry Coats gson/o Moses and Susanna Coates
>
> This from Truman's book:
>
> p. 32
>
> Thomas Coates, First child of Moses and Susanna Coates.
> Thomas Coates m Sarah, dau of Henry and Sarah Miller, of Providence, now
> Delaware Co., PA, 3, 21, 1741. Their children:
>
> 1. Henry b 5.14.1742. Was a botanist. d umn int. East Caln F.B.B. (umn I
> think is unmarried)
> 2. Susanna b 3.12.1744
> 3. Jonathan b 4.24.1747
> 4. Samuel b 9.13.1749
> 5. Elizabeth. No dates. died at age of 16 years and 20 days of dysentery.
>
> Samuel and wife were living 11.29.1818 from date of old letter from their
> son Thoams in Illinois
>
> Transcribed copy of his will is here also...
>
> Larry, was this the Henry you were refering to??
>
> Char
>
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Yes, I quite agree...remember there are still quite a few lines that have
not been connected...not in the least of them from SC...so let the theories
abound!!
We need more DNA tests!!...<g>...
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: "John Coates" <John(a)Coates.net>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: [COATES-L] Henry Coats gson/o Moses and Susanna Coates
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:41:08 -0800
Do not despair Larry. Every hypothesis we are able to disprove puts us a
step closer to unlocking the mystery of our ancestors. Just look, between
the DNA project and your research on Benjamin and Ann we have eliminated 5
potential connections, substantially reducing the number of candidates. Of
course, it would be nice to see something "proved" every now and then :).
We will get there.
John D
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Coats [mailto:larcoa@aspermont.esc14.net]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 AM
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Henry Coats gson/o Moses and Susanna Coates
Thanks, Charlotte,
However, with Wm being buried at E. Caln Burying Ground, my favorite theory
regarding the identity of Wm Coats of Rowan was also just buried!<g> I
think I'm just going to stop theorizing for a while as it seems to be
getting very little production! :-/
So, as it stands now, I don't see how Wm of Rowan or Henry of Rowan could
have a connection to the line of Moses Coates and Sussanah Weldon. I think,
with the help of Linda and Charlotte, I've pretty much exhausted the list of
known, eligible candidates.
Totally stumped now.
Larry
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We need more DNA tests!!...<g>...
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Larry Coats" <larcoa(a)aspermont.esc14.net>
To: "Charlotte Coats" <coats(a)hotmail.com>,<COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Henry Coats gson/o Moses and Susanna Coates
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:45:17 -0600
Thanks, Charlotte,
However, with Wm being buried at E. Caln Burying Ground, my favorite theory
regarding the identity of Wm Coats of Rowan was also just buried!<g> I
think I'm just going to stop theorizing for a while as it seems to be
getting very little production! :-/
So, as it stands now, I don't see how Wm of Rowan or Henry of Rowan could
have a connection to the line of Moses Coates and Sussanah Weldon. I think,
with the help of Linda and Charlotte, I've pretty much exhausted the list of
known, eligible candidates.
Totally stumped now.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Coats" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
To: <COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Henry Coats gson/o Moses and Susanna Coates
> Benjamin Coates m Ann Longsteth, 9.22.1756 at Charlestown, under care of
> Gosben M Mtg. of Friends. Ann dau of Bartholomew, of Warminster, Bucks
Co.,
> PA born 11.3.1737, died 6.26.1824. Both she and her husband buried at
> Pikeland F.B.G.
>
> Certificate from Gwynedd M. Mtg., for Benjmain Coates, clear of all
marriage
> engagements except with Ann Longstreth. Their children:
>
> 1. William b 1758, d 10.18.1834, interred at E. Caln
> 2. Jane b 1760 m Alexander Stewart
> 3. Sarah b 1762 m Israel Worrell
> 4. Elizabeth b 1764 m Eliuhim Anderson
> 5. Ann b 1766 d UNM
> 6. Abner b 1768 d 10.17.1800 in Springfield, Ind. m Margaret Tussy
> 7. Susanna b 3.10.1770 d 1772
> 8. Tacy b 1772 d 7.2.1851 UNM
> 9. Rachel b 1779 d 9.16.1858
> 10. Benjamin b 9.18.1780 d 10.25.1820 in Springfield, OH
>
> Then it goes into the Quaker records etc...
>
> Char
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
> To: "Charlotte Coats" <coats(a)hotmail.com>, COATES-L(a)Rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Henry Coats gson/o Moses and Susanna Coates
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:07:31 -0500
>
> Who does Truman say are the children of Benjamin and Ann Longstreth
Coates?
> At 03:08 PM 3/30/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >This from Truman's book:
> >
> >p. 32
> >
> >Thomas Coates, First child of Moses and Susanna Coates.
> >Thomas Coates m Sarah, dau of Henry and Sarah Miller, of Providence, now
> >Delaware Co., PA, 3, 21, 1741. Their children:
> >
> >1. Henry b 5.14.1742. Was a botanist. d umn int. East Caln F.B.B. (umn
I
> >think is unmarried)
> >2. Susanna b 3.12.1744
> >3. Jonathan b 4.24.1747
> >4. Samuel b 9.13.1749
> >5. Elizabeth. No dates. died at age of 16 years and 20 days of
dysentery.
> >
> >Samuel and wife were living 11.29.1818 from date of old letter from
their
> >son Thoams in Illinois
> >
> >Transcribed copy of his will is here also...
> >
> >Larry, was this the Henry you were refering to??
> >
> >Char
> >
> >
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Do not despair Larry. Every hypothesis we are able to disprove puts us a
step closer to unlocking the mystery of our ancestors. Just look, between
the DNA project and your research on Benjamin and Ann we have eliminated 5
potential connections, substantially reducing the number of candidates. Of
course, it would be nice to see something "proved" every now and then :).
We will get there.
John D
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Coats [mailto:larcoa@aspermont.esc14.net]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 AM
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Henry Coats gson/o Moses and Susanna Coates
Thanks, Charlotte,
However, with Wm being buried at E. Caln Burying Ground, my favorite theory
regarding the identity of Wm Coats of Rowan was also just buried!<g> I
think I'm just going to stop theorizing for a while as it seems to be
getting very little production! :-/
So, as it stands now, I don't see how Wm of Rowan or Henry of Rowan could
have a connection to the line of Moses Coates and Sussanah Weldon. I think,
with the help of Linda and Charlotte, I've pretty much exhausted the list of
known, eligible candidates.
Totally stumped now.
Larry
Who does Truman say are the children of Benjamin and Ann Longstreth Coates?
At 03:08 PM 3/30/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>This from Truman's book:
>
>p. 32
>
>Thomas Coates, First child of Moses and Susanna Coates.
>Thomas Coates m Sarah, dau of Henry and Sarah Miller, of Providence, now
>Delaware Co., PA, 3, 21, 1741. Their children:
>
>1. Henry b 5.14.1742. Was a botanist. d umn int. East Caln F.B.B. (umn I
>think is unmarried)
>2. Susanna b 3.12.1744
>3. Jonathan b 4.24.1747
>4. Samuel b 9.13.1749
>5. Elizabeth. No dates. died at age of 16 years and 20 days of dysentery.
>
>Samuel and wife were living 11.29.1818 from date of old letter from their
>son Thoams in Illinois
>
>Transcribed copy of his will is here also...
>
>Larry, was this the Henry you were refering to??
>
>Char
>
>
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I certainly was no help. Sure hope someone from the Moses line can be. :)
At 02:37 PM 3/30/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>OK. That is all I needed to know. I guess that, given the absence of a
>will for Benj. Coates, I may be waiting a long time before any indirect
>evidence surfaces.
>But what I really would like is for a documented Moses Coates descendant
>to step forward and take that 12 marker test!!!<g>
>Regards,
>Larry
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:lcoate@ancestrees.com>Linda J. Coate
>>To: <mailto:larcoa@aspermont.esc14.net>Larry Coats ;
>><mailto:COATES-L@Rootsweb.com>COATES-L(a)Rootsweb.com
>>Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:54 PM
>>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Benj. Coates and Ann Longstreth question
>>
>>Nope, Can't tell you because it's not my direct family. I obviously
>>have used quite a few sources on them over the years, but don't even
>>remember what they said, just that my listing is a summary of
>>them. Even in my notes on them though, I question whether they had all
>>the children I have listed for them because it would have been over such
>>an unusually long period of time for one woman.... I'd like to look
>>over my sources for you, but as I look at them, most of these don't have
>>reference numbers to the sources in my files. I had a major database
>>crash about 2 years ago, that lost huge numbers of sources and/or
>>reference numbers. Without the reference numbers, I have a good 3000
>>Coate documents I'd have to go through to find them. It sounds like it
>>might be easier to find the main ones below through interlibrary loan.
>>At 04:15 PM 3/29/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>>>Thanks, Linda; just one final question.....
>>>based on what you've seen regarding the family of Benj. and Ann
>>>Longstreth Coates, would you be willing to say that there is a high
>>>likelihood that they did, in fact, have a son named William???
>>>Larry
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: <mailto:lcoate@ancestrees.com>Linda J. Coate
>>>>To: <mailto:larcoa@aspermont.esc14.net>Larry Coats
>>>>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:23 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Benj. Coates and Ann Longstreth question
>>>>
>>>>Yes, I've been rooting recently too. I've found various mixtures of
>>>>some of the children that I have for Benj. and Ann at ancestry.com, but
>>>>not all the children I have listed for them from second hand
>>>>sources. I didn't find anyone that was using more than 2nd hand
>>>>sources either. My sources on this family were:
>>>>
>>>>1 The History of Chester County, PA with Genealogical & Bibliographical
>>>>Sketches.
>>>>2 G.B.Davis to Coates Discussion Group E-mail letter dated July 29,
>>>>1997 at gbd29(a)pop3.idt.net (C-1612).
>>>>3 Ettie Tidwell McCall, Tidwell and Allied Families.
>>>>4 Abstracts of Wills, Chester Co., PA , Vol 1: 1714-1758, (LDS Fiche:
>>>>6089197).
>>>>5 R.K. Montgomery to L.Dudick Email dated Dec 19, 1999 at
>>>>RkMontg342(a)aol.com C-2241 1999.
>>>>6 Jordan, Wilfred, Colonial and Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania,
>>>>(New York: Lewis Historical Publishing Co, Inc., c1932).
>>>>7 Stella, Email dated 2002 from NANAWCR70(a)webtv.net.
>>>>At 04:01 PM 3/28/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>>>>>Linda,
>>>>>After digging about in the rootsweb archives, I found what purports to
>>>>>be a list of the children of Benj. Coates and Ann Longstreth; it
>>>>>includes only: Jane, Sussanah, Benjamin, and Tracy. No William
>>>>>mentioned at all. In fact, I don't see a William listed as a
>>>>>grandchild of Moses Coates and Sussanah Weldon Coates at all on this
>>>>>particular listing. I think this was posted back in 1996 or 1998.
>>>>>
>>>>>Could you tell me on what authority we have a William as a son of
>>>>>Benjamin and Anne Longstreth Coates?
>>>>>
>>>>>I noticed that Benjamin's brother, Jonathan, married Jane Longstreth,
>>>>>and had sons named James, Jonathan, and Isaac(and plenty of
>>>>>daughters), but still no William???
>>>>>
>>>>>Can you advise me in this matter?
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>Columbus, Ohio
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>>>
>>>
>>> LINDA COATE,
>>>Columbus, Ohio
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>>>www.ancestrees.com
>>
>>
>> LINDA COATE,
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>>
Guess what gang.... There was a William Franklin Coates, b. 1802, as
supposedly the youngest son of Benjamin and Ann Longstreth Coate... If this
is the same family then some of Benjamin's offspring migrated down through
Newberry, S.C.
At 12:34 PM 3/30/2003 -0800, onequest(a)earthlink.net wrote:
>Hi John D...
>Thanks for the prompt reply!
>
>William Claude Coats: b. 09 July 1899 Meridian, Bosque Texas
>
>Father: William Mukin Coats: b. 27 Nov 1876 Jasper, Pickens
>Georgia
>
>Mother: Lida H Reagan: b. 05 Aug 1878 in Texas
>
>Grandfather: John Roseborough Coats: b. 01 Feb 1850 Newberry
>South Carolina
>
>Grandmother: Emma Louise Allen: b. 11 Dec 1856 Jasper Georgia
>
>Great-grandfather: William Franklin Coats: b. 21 Dec 1821
>Newberry South Carolina
>
>Great-grandmother: Elizabeth Pitts: b. 22 Oct 1825
>--------------------------
>Hope you recognize someone....I have more information on each of
>these people and their siblings if this is not enough to help identify...
>
>Sharon
>onequest(a)earthlink.net
>
>
>On 30 Mar 2003 at 7:57, John Coates wrote:
> > Hi Sharon,
> > I 'm not familiar with the reference you site. What part of the country is
> > William Claude from?
> > John D
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: onequest(a)earthlink.net [mailto:onequest@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:41 PM
> > To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: [COATES-L] William Claude Coats
> >
> > Hello all...
> >
> > Hoping to find fellow researchers on my family line.
> > I am the only grandchild of William Claude Coats.
> > He is listed as #142 in Emma Odessa Coats Collins
> > book. Looking forward to meeting any Coats cousins
> > that may be out there...
> >
> > Sharon
> > onequest(a)earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
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A lot of the Coatses in the South "went to Texas" after the civil war.
They were disgusted with the carpetbaggers and other things that
happened after the war. One such was John Alexander Coats, from Meridian
Ms., who went to Cottonwood, Callahan Co Tx. He had several sons, a
George Washington, a Leonard and serveral others I can't remmember
offhand. John was a son of James Robert Coats of Meridian. He was joined
in later years by other relatives, and several Griffin brothers who were
related by marriage. John was a commissioner of Callahan Co. In later
years, it seems the Coats and Griffin familys left the Cottonwood area,
and went to the "panhandle". I lost track after that. However, there
were other Coatses from the South who "went to Texas" after the war. I'm
not sure of the relationship.
JWCoats
Charlotte Coats wrote:
> FYI...
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
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> Subject: Charlotte Coats of East Texas
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 00:30:08 EST
>
> I am researching the Coats Family for Nacodoches County Tx.
>
> Robert Richard Coats(b. 1860 in Nacogdoches, d JUN 1931)
> m Sarah K Johnson (b 1853, Angelina County Tx)
> daughter: Charlotte Mathilda Coats b. 1882, d1963)
> m. William Patrick Ford (b1866, d 1906
> son: Elbert Theodore ford (b. 1905 d.
> 1993)
>
> Is there a connection to your Coats?
>
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Benjamin Coates m Ann Longsteth, 9.22.1756 at Charlestown, under care of
Gosben M Mtg. of Friends. Ann dau of Bartholomew, of Warminster, Bucks Co.,
PA born 11.3.1737, died 6.26.1824. Both she and her husband buried at
Pikeland F.B.G.
Certificate from Gwynedd M. Mtg., for Benjmain Coates, clear of all marriage
engagements except with Ann Longstreth. Their children:
1. William b 1758, d 10.18.1834, interred at E. Caln
2. Jane b 1760 m Alexander Stewart
3. Sarah b 1762 m Israel Worrell
4. Elizabeth b 1764 m Eliuhim Anderson
5. Ann b 1766 d UNM
6. Abner b 1768 d 10.17.1800 in Springfield, Ind. m Margaret Tussy
7. Susanna b 3.10.1770 d 1772
8. Tacy b 1772 d 7.2.1851 UNM
9. Rachel b 1779 d 9.16.1858
10. Benjamin b 9.18.1780 d 10.25.1820 in Springfield, OH
Then it goes into the Quaker records etc...
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
To: "Charlotte Coats" <coats(a)hotmail.com>, COATES-L(a)Rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Henry Coats gson/o Moses and Susanna Coates
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:07:31 -0500
Who does Truman say are the children of Benjamin and Ann Longstreth Coates?
At 03:08 PM 3/30/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>This from Truman's book:
>
>p. 32
>
>Thomas Coates, First child of Moses and Susanna Coates.
>Thomas Coates m Sarah, dau of Henry and Sarah Miller, of Providence, now
>Delaware Co., PA, 3, 21, 1741. Their children:
>
>1. Henry b 5.14.1742. Was a botanist. d umn int. East Caln F.B.B. (umn I
>think is unmarried)
>2. Susanna b 3.12.1744
>3. Jonathan b 4.24.1747
>4. Samuel b 9.13.1749
>5. Elizabeth. No dates. died at age of 16 years and 20 days of dysentery.
>
>Samuel and wife were living 11.29.1818 from date of old letter from their
>son Thoams in Illinois
>
>Transcribed copy of his will is here also...
>
>Larry, was this the Henry you were refering to??
>
>Char
>
>
>
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I am enjoying the Coates stories.
I thought my grandmother EMMA COATES b. Dec25,1895 Caldwell Parish, Louisiana was unusual.
Emma was the daughter of Simon Charles Austin Lanehart Coates and Martha Raymond.
There wasn't one man that would take her on if she believe she was right. Though she was a soft loving grandmother to us kids.(She finished school 11th grade and wanted to be an Attorney) but, back then, they couldn't afford to send females to college.(I think she would have been a great attorney)
I remember when I was a child a man was trying to break in our house and she grabbed a baseball bat and yelled "I am fixing to open this door and if you are still there when I do I'll be knockin you head off."
Emma was in her 70's then.
The burgler must have believed her because she flung the door open and all we could see was a man running down the road as she said, "He was running Lickity split".
God I love and miss her!
Robbie
That story from Ken Harris about CA Coats family violence reminded me about another story that I'd almost forgotten:
This pertains to my Gg grandfather, Thomas J. Coats(b. 1833 Lincoln Co. TN, d. 1918 Collin Co. TX). It seems that around 1885-1900, after he had moved his family to Collin co. TX, Thomas J. Coats was working on his farm near Plano, TX, when one day he was "visited" by a farm implement "drummer" or salesman, who apparently was of the "hard sell" variety. He persisted and persisted in trying to interest my Gg grandfather in some sort of new-fangled farm equipment, and true to form, Gg grandfather Coats kept telling him that either he wasn't interested or something like that.
The drummer, however, refused to give up. The discussion became somewhat heated, and, after a few less than cordial comments, the drummer finally lost his temper completely and called Gg grandfather Coats "an old S.O.B.".etc.etc., whereupon the old man and ex Confederate soldier(he had to have been about 60 or so)grabbed the first thing at hand, which happened to have been a plowshare, swung it once at the drummer's head, and laid him out, stone dead.
Well, the long and short of this one is this; with the law near at hand, Gg grandfather Coats immediately decided that he ought to take a brief vacation with friends or relatives near Olney, TX, where he resided until the Collin Co. Grand Jury brought back its decision. They didn't indict the old man; they just called it a case of justifiable homicide, and that was the end of that.
Nothing of genealogical value here, but if nothing else, it certainly shows how times have changed. <g>
Larry
This from Truman's book:
p. 32
Thomas Coates, First child of Moses and Susanna Coates.
Thomas Coates m Sarah, dau of Henry and Sarah Miller, of Providence, now
Delaware Co., PA, 3, 21, 1741. Their children:
1. Henry b 5.14.1742. Was a botanist. d umn int. East Caln F.B.B. (umn I
think is unmarried)
2. Susanna b 3.12.1744
3. Jonathan b 4.24.1747
4. Samuel b 9.13.1749
5. Elizabeth. No dates. died at age of 16 years and 20 days of dysentery.
Samuel and wife were living 11.29.1818 from date of old letter from their
son Thoams in Illinois
Transcribed copy of his will is here also...
Larry, was this the Henry you were refering to??
Char
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Don't think that this Sion can be the same as the Sion who married Lucy
Simpson in Rowan Co. NC in 1802. I say this as the one female child is
clearly born before 1802(quite possibly well before 1800).
UNLESS, of course, Sion Coats had a previous marriage that we don't know
anything about. By Lucy Simpson, Sion had, so far as I know, one child,
Thomas, b. 1803. After Lucy died in 1813 in Rowan, Sion moved on to Greene
Co. TN where he married a Musgrave and had another son, Solomon.
IF this is my Sion, then Lucy was the second wife.
And then again, this may really be a Sion CATES and not Coats.
Hard for me to be very definitive here as as John and I already know, Sion
Coats did not leave many tracks for us to follow.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jfr3679(a)aol.com>
To: <COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:34 PM
Subject: [COATES-L] Sion Coats (of the Rowan, NC line?)
> Has anyone seen this Sion? Listed in the 1810 Census for Lincoln Co., NC,
I find a Sion Cates, however, sources differ on his name. Lincoln county is
separated from Rowan by Iredell in 1810. Personally looking at the census,
I clearly see his name to be Sion. Looking at the census, I find that there
are two numbering systems to the same entry (census page 376 & 499).
> -----
> Jackson, Teeples, and Schaefermeyer, North Carolina 1810 Census Index,
(Bountiful, UT: Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc., 1976)
>
> Cates, Leon LINC 376 LINCOLN
>
> -----
> Bentley, Elizabeth Petty, Index to the 1810 Census of North Carolina,
(Baltimore, MD: Clearfield Company, Inc., 1990)
>
> Cates, Sion Lnc 499
> -----
> 1810 Lincoln Co., NC Census
> Sion Cates ---1- -1-1- --
> (Indicating 1 male 26-45 yrs [b. 1765-1784], 1 female 26-45 yrs[b.
1765-1784], and 1 female 10-16 yrs[b. 1794-1800])
>
>
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> Find out where your Coate/s family fits. Join the Coats/Coates/Coate DNA
Project, http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/coatsarchive/dna.htm
There is another Coats/Boone connection in Berks County PA...Samuel Coats
s/o Thomas Coats w Sarah
This is out of Spraker's Boone family:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291307039
Char
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----Original Message Follows----
From: CMassey536(a)aol.com
To: coats(a)hotmail.com
Subject: Charlotte Coats of East Texas
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 00:30:08 EST
I am researching the Coats Family for Nacodoches County Tx.
Robert Richard Coats(b. 1860 in Nacogdoches, d JUN 1931)
m Sarah K Johnson (b 1853, Angelina County Tx)
daughter: Charlotte Mathilda Coats b. 1882, d1963)
m. William Patrick Ford (b1866, d 1906
son: Elbert Theodore ford (b. 1905 d. 1993)
Is there a connection to your Coats?
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