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From: "brenda garrett" <brendagirl1(a)msn.com>
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Subject: coats and garretts
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:46:03 -0500
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE COATS AND THE GARRETT THE GARRETT MOVED
FROM NC TO MO. MARRIED INTO COATS FAMILY
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This from Robbie...Char
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From: "Robbie Griggs Landry" <duroblan(a)directvinternet.com>
To: "Charlotte Coates" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: COATS,COON,KOONE
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 14:34:41 -0600
Hi Char,
I've been trying to send an E-mail to Coates Rootweb list but, my E-mail
server won't let me send to any of my list.
Would you Please, post this on the Coats,Coates list. (Thank You Char)!
Robbie
Hmmm.... the Charles Coats and Ann information is really interesting. I
really found that Ann had a grand-daughter named Mary Koone in her will and
came from South Carolina interesting.If I am not mistaken (gr. Daughter)
Mary Koone was a Bastard child and there was a trial saying she was fathered
by a Coon. I believe grandpa Joe and I have discussed this.(This is from
memory so you know how that goes!)
My Kuhn Family from South Carolina is probably related to this family. This
information below may help.
As you know Austin Marion Coates married Margaret Coon (Kuhn) . Margaret's
father John Lewis Coon b.September 24, 1757 Camden County, Richland
District,South Carolina.His father was Hans Casper Kuhn.
John Lewis had two brothers They all fought in the revolutionary War. So did
Hans Casper Kuhn ; he was a patriot.
THE KUHN BROTHERS:
JOHN ADAM KUHN b.August 12, 1754 Orangburg, SC.(m) Mary Kinsler ;They went
by Coon and Koon and stayed in South Carolina. Some of his children went on
to Texas and other places West and part went by Koone, Koon and Coon..
He lived on Land on Cain Creek was adjacient to Gasper Faust,Joel Mclemore ,
Gasper Kuhn and vacant lot.used his indent to purchase 195 acres of land.
Located on Cain Creek Camden Dist.
April 06, 1789 Adam,Casper and Lewis partenered in Purchasing 263 acres of
land in Camden District.
His will was written April 10, 1815 Richland County, S.C. proven May
18,1815.In his will John Adam Coon leaves the Plantation to his wife Mary.
Issue Sarah, Elizabeth,Jasper,Harmon, Mary Coon b. 1803 (m) Jacob Wirick,
Male Coon, and Male Coon.(the last 2 were unidentified.)
JOHN CONRAD KUHN b. April 16, 1756 Orangeburg,SC d.March 11, 1843 Davidson
County,Tennessee (m) Elizabeth Unknown
Changed their name to Coon.
Alot is not know about this family. Issue: Aggie (m) Willie M. Walker of
Tennessee and Elizabeth (m) John Sanders (both Aggie and Elizabeth were born
in Robertson,Tennessee) There are probably more children but, is all this
researcher has found.
JOHN LEWIS KUHN b.September 24, 1757 Camden County, Richland District,South
Carolina (m) Mary Fannon died Bet. December 1822 - 1823 Coon Mill Road ,
Buffalo Creek ,Woodville, Wilkinson,Mississippi .
1794 County judge in Richland Co, SC.
Changed his name to Coon when he moved to Mississippi. He wrote that it
was to make his name more American.
Aug.7,1786 Adam,Casper and Lewis partenered in Purchasing 263 acres of land
in Camden District, SC.
Nov.1,1811 Obtained a Passport on nov.1,1811 to travel through Georgia Creek
Indian Nation , while still in S.C.
Issue: Anna,Jasper S.M., Jacob, Margaret (m) Austin Coates,John Lewis
William,Charles Augustus,David Fannon and Mary Ann Elizabeth. (A total of 8
children)
Sources for Kuhn, Coon information:
A HISTORY OF RICHLAND CO, By Green, Page en 975.7 Vol. 1 1732,1805
"The Boozer Family" of SC by Mary Elizabeth Boozer (1970), page 2 (One of
John Adams Daughters married a Buser (Boozer)
(A diary written by Louis Coon ), handed down to Bessie Lee Coon McGuffie
Utica, Michigan, a copy in possession of Doris Hughes Barkdull.
DAR Patriot Index - Centennial Edition pg.658
Encyclopedia of Founding Families of the Ouachita Valley of Louisiana,1785
to 1850 by E. Russ Williams
The Orders of the first Families of Mississippi 1699-1817 Vol.II
The Swiss Connection Hans Caspar Kuhn (1713-1792) of South Carolina and His
Descendants with Related Families of Kinsler, Nettles, and Wyrick by
Gwendolyn Pryor
Woodville Republican Vol. 1-5 by O'Livia Neil Wiesse - Published by Hertiage
Books
1776-1963 Robin White Family Tree - page 1 Grfather Robin White and Mary
White (nee Hux) and GrGrandfather Lewis Coon and wife Mary.
July 13, 1796 The will of William Faust / Lewis Coon and Sarah Faust were
witnesses.
1815 MEMORIAL TO CONGRESS
July 1845 (Probate and Trial ) over the estate and freedon of slave (Cesar)
(freed in 1812 by Lewis Coon) part of Testimony;Lewis Coon departed this
life sometime between Dec.1822-1823 and had 8 children all of age.
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Yes, all makes sense...but the signature on the Kings Creek property might
have been Nettie, that was suppose to have been Barton's wife's name...so
not sure that was Notley or Nettie...
But once again, we don't have all the records from GA to really be sure
there are no probate records in Jefferson County GA...
Char
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From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COATES-L] Re: Unidentified subject!
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 06:49:55 -0500
Ann was married to Johnson before 1764 and to Charles Coats in SC before
1792. She left a will taking care of her original children and some of
her grandchildren by her first husband in 1805. She bequeathed a shilling
to a granddaugter Mary Coon, whom is either married or is the daughter of a
deceased daughter of Ann Coats. She was the only person I could not place
from the information in her will. (C-2093)
This is what Summer's book has about her: "Mrs. Ann Coate made will
March 20, 1805, and died same year. Her legatees were as follows Daughter,
Jean(she married a Vardaman), Nancy Cannon, Sarah Cannon,--sons , by a
former husband, George Johnson and Levi Johnson; grand-daughter, Mary
Koone; grandson, Daniel Johnson." She did not name any children by her
second husband, Charles Coates. Charles children were old enough when he
died to be the children of an unknown first wife of his.
Here is what I have on Charles of SC and GA. Charles was
apparently a member of the Enoree Baptist Church as his name appears in
their records. (Thomas Coats also was listed in the Enoree Baptist Church
records.) (C-2042)
He is the correct age to be a brother or cousin of the William married
to Frances in the area. He lives fairly near him in the Bush River area of
SC. He witnesses William's purchase of 200 acres on Kingscreek, Craven Co.,
SC in Jan. of 1773. (I've estimated his birthdate as being before 1745 based
on this witness and if he was married to Ann Coats, b. bef 1745.) William
did not witness Charles' land purchases, but that could be because Charles
appears in the area first. He, purchases 100 acres in Berkeley Co in 1770
from John Hogg and adjacent to John Green's land. Witnesses at both
William and Charles purchases included the Sparks family.
Charles is living in the 96th District in a 1779 census. This
District included many parts of later counties. The only other Coats in
that census were (Gentleman) John Coats, and Marmaduke Coats. Charles Coates
bought items at the sale of John Green's estate in 1791 in Newberry.
Charles sold land in 1792 in Newberry Co. to Walter Goodman. His wife's
name is Ann in this document. He sold a probable slave in Chester Co.,
SC to Notley Coates in Jan. 1794. Notley was one of the administrators for
the above William Coate when he died in 1791, so he is likely related to
these two gentleman also. He is in the 1790 SC census only, with 3 males
over 16, 3 under 16 and 3 females.
I believe that his wife Ann is the Ann Coats who leaves a will in
Newberry Co., SC in 1805. If so, he was probably married once before Ann
accounting for at least the 5 male children in the household in their 1790
census records. Two of the daughters in the household could have been Anns
by a previous marriage to a Mr. Johnson, if she is married to Charles Coats
by 1790. Her will names her sons, George Johnson and Levy Johnson and
daughters, Jeen Verdaman, Nancy Cannon and Sarah Cannon. This obviously
indicates that her marriage to a Coate was her last marriage. The proof that
she is this Ann Coats is that it is the right time and place and no other
Ann is known to be a wife of a Coate in SC. Furthermore, her sons George
and Levi Johnson were near neighbors of Charles Coats in the 1790 census.
Charles Coats disappears from the South Carolina records in 1794 and Ann
Coats would have been a widow when she wrote her will in 1805.
There is a Charles Coats that shows up in Jefferson Co., GA in 1796
whom I believe to be this Charles. He died about 1803/4 in that county
leaving up to six children. No will or wife are mentioned.
At 12:25 PM 12/30/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>This Ann Cotes also was married prior to this to a Johnson...she names two
>sons in her will with the last name of Johnson, her daughters are married,
>so not sure if they could be Johnson or Cotes...
>
>So I don't think this is Charles' wife Ann...but a second wife of one of
>the Coats' in Newberry County SC...
>
>Char
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Well, that makes sense...but because we don't have enough records from GA,
I'm not sure...maybe more records from SC will also give us some clues....
I also think Charles in GA died fairly young and James died about the same
time...sure could have been Indians...from what I can tell they were pretty
close to the Indian territory in those early days...
Char
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From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Re: Sion L. Coats
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 06:43:40 -0500
Charlotte, I too believe that the Charles Coats of Georgia is the same
Charles married to Ann of SC. He appears in GA after they sell the land in
SC. She is listed in the census living without her husband and with
children. He is living without a wife in GA and with children. Neither
are listed as widows ever... When Charles dies leaving 1 son of age and 3
minor children, evidence suggests they are in their teens and that he would
be old enough to be one and the same. His wife, Ann is likely the one who
left a will in 1805. The later Ann Coates living in SC in 1820, does
anyone know who she is?
At 12:17 PM 12/30/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>There is an Ann Cotes who left a will in 1805 in Newberry County
>SC...Charles and Ann Coates sold land in 1792 and I believe they could be
>either the Coats family in GA, Jefferson County GA or the Charles Coats in
>TN... The Charles Coats in TN has a son named Austin I think it was...so
>I'm more inclined to think GA is the Charles Coats of SC...
>
>But we don't know who exactly this Ann Cotes is connected with yet...
>
>And I suppose it is also possible Charles Coats died in 1792, however,
>there wasn't any estate papers for him, if that was the case and that would
>have been late enough for some type of probate record...there is also no
>documentation that Ann stayed behind when Charles went to GA, if that is
>indeed him in Jefferson County GA...Charles also died quite young in GA,
>leaving 2 or 3 minor children, whom William became guardian for, but we
>don't know how this Charles, James and William Coats in GA were related
>either...so if that were the case, this Charles in GA might be too young to
>be the Charles Coats from SC and could be a son???
>
>There was a John Cote early on in Newberry County SC as well...there are
>just quite a few folks there with no documented connections as of yet...but
>I think this John Cote's wife's name was Mary, if I recall correctly...
>
>Char
>
>
>
>
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>From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Re: Sion L. Coats
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:54:35 -0500
>
>Charlotte,
>Yes, there is an Ann Coates, wife of Charles Coates who died before 1810.
>Then there is an Ann Coates just in the 1820 census that Joe sent whom I
>can't place.
>At 10:00 AM 12/30/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>>Didn't we have an Ann Cotes in Newberry County SC...either a will or some
>>land?
>>
>>Char
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
>>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Re: Sion L. Coats
>>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 06:55:56 -0500
>>
>>I've been looking for your Gabriel as long as I've known you and haven't
>>found anything to help you. When and where did your Gabriel die? I
>>just realized that I don't even have him entered in my database, so I sure
>>could use an update on the facts you know about Gabriel. Could you
>>recall for me the letter where you described him buying a cow from an
>>estate, and theorizing that he would have to live close to that person to
>>get his cow home. I didn't know that the 1810 census gave specific birth
>>years or was 1801 the earliest he could have been born according to their
>>age categories?
>>
>>As for the Ann Cotes you found living in Kershaw Co. census records, I've
>>gone through my entire database and found no Ann married to a Coates/s who
>>could match her. I am assuming she is one of the wives to a Kershaw Co.
>>Coates.. Deeds for sales of property in Kershaw Co., SC would likely
>>give her name if her husband sold property before he died.
>>
>>At 01:10 AM 12/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Linda- This whole discussion about Sion Jr. and all the others is quite
>>>fascinating; and yet I still haven't seen anything about a Gabriel G.
>>>Coats.
>>>I'm wondering now about this Ann Coats who had the son born between 1796
>>>and
>>>1800+.. My Gabriel was supposidly born in 1795 in Kershaw County, SC but
>>>I've never seen actual proof. The 1810 Kershaw County Census says he was
>>>born in 1801; his tombstone said 1795. I saw that in person when I
>>>replaced
>>>his broken marker a few years ago. You know anything about this Ann
>>>Coats?
>>>I'm still looking for Gabriel's parents- find them and dinners on
>>>me....grampajoec
>>
>>
>> LINDA COATE,
>>Columbus, Ohio
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Charlotte, I too believe that the Charles Coats of Georgia is the same
Charles married to Ann of SC. He appears in GA after they sell the land
in SC. She is listed in the census living without her husband and with
children. He is living without a wife in GA and with children. Neither
are listed as widows ever... When Charles dies leaving 1 son of age and 3
minor children, evidence suggests they are in their teens and that he would
be old enough to be one and the same. His wife, Ann is likely the one who
left a will in 1805. The later Ann Coates living in SC in 1820, does
anyone know who she is?
At 12:17 PM 12/30/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>There is an Ann Cotes who left a will in 1805 in Newberry County
>SC...Charles and Ann Coates sold land in 1792 and I believe they could be
>either the Coats family in GA, Jefferson County GA or the Charles Coats in
>TN... The Charles Coats in TN has a son named Austin I think it was...so
>I'm more inclined to think GA is the Charles Coats of SC...
>
>But we don't know who exactly this Ann Cotes is connected with yet...
>
>And I suppose it is also possible Charles Coats died in 1792, however,
>there wasn't any estate papers for him, if that was the case and that
>would have been late enough for some type of probate record...there is
>also no documentation that Ann stayed behind when Charles went to GA, if
>that is indeed him in Jefferson County GA...Charles also died quite young
>in GA, leaving 2 or 3 minor children, whom William became guardian for,
>but we don't know how this Charles, James and William Coats in GA were
>related either...so if that were the case, this Charles in GA might be too
>young to be the Charles Coats from SC and could be a son???
>
>There was a John Cote early on in Newberry County SC as well...there are
>just quite a few folks there with no documented connections as of
>yet...but I think this John Cote's wife's name was Mary, if I recall
>correctly...
>
>Char
>
>
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Re: Sion L. Coats
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:54:35 -0500
>
>Charlotte,
>Yes, there is an Ann Coates, wife of Charles Coates who died before 1810.
>Then there is an Ann Coates just in the 1820 census that Joe sent whom I
>can't place.
>At 10:00 AM 12/30/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>>Didn't we have an Ann Cotes in Newberry County SC...either a will or some
>>land?
>>
>>Char
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
>>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Re: Sion L. Coats
>>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 06:55:56 -0500
>>
>>I've been looking for your Gabriel as long as I've known you and haven't
>>found anything to help you. When and where did your Gabriel die? I
>>just realized that I don't even have him entered in my database, so I
>>sure could use an update on the facts you know about Gabriel. Could you
>>recall for me the letter where you described him buying a cow from an
>>estate, and theorizing that he would have to live close to that person to
>>get his cow home. I didn't know that the 1810 census gave specific
>>birth years or was 1801 the earliest he could have been born according to
>>their age categories?
>>
>>As for the Ann Cotes you found living in Kershaw Co. census
>>records, I've gone through my entire database and found no Ann married
>>to a Coates/s who could match her. I am assuming she is one of the
>>wives to a Kershaw Co. Coates.. Deeds for sales of property in Kershaw
>>Co., SC would likely give her name if her husband sold property before he died.
>>
>>At 01:10 AM 12/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Linda- This whole discussion about Sion Jr. and all the others is quite
>>>fascinating; and yet I still haven't seen anything about a Gabriel G. Coats.
>>>I'm wondering now about this Ann Coats who had the son born between 1796 and
>>>1800+.. My Gabriel was supposidly born in 1795 in Kershaw County, SC but
>>>I've never seen actual proof. The 1810 Kershaw County Census says he was
>>>born in 1801; his tombstone said 1795. I saw that in person when I replaced
>>>his broken marker a few years ago. You know anything about this Ann Coats?
>>>I'm still looking for Gabriel's parents- find them and dinners on
>>>me....grampajoec
>>
>>
>> LINDA COATE,
>>Columbus, Ohio
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There is an Ann Cotes who left a will in 1805 in Newberry County
SC...Charles and Ann Coates sold land in 1792 and I believe they could be
either the Coats family in GA, Jefferson County GA or the Charles Coats in
TN... The Charles Coats in TN has a son named Austin I think it was...so I'm
more inclined to think GA is the Charles Coats of SC...
But we don't know who exactly this Ann Cotes is connected with yet...
And I suppose it is also possible Charles Coats died in 1792, however, there
wasn't any estate papers for him, if that was the case and that would have
been late enough for some type of probate record...there is also no
documentation that Ann stayed behind when Charles went to GA, if that is
indeed him in Jefferson County GA...Charles also died quite young in GA,
leaving 2 or 3 minor children, whom William became guardian for, but we
don't know how this Charles, James and William Coats in GA were related
either...so if that were the case, this Charles in GA might be too young to
be the Charles Coats from SC and could be a son???
There was a John Cote early on in Newberry County SC as well...there are
just quite a few folks there with no documented connections as of yet...but
I think this John Cote's wife's name was Mary, if I recall correctly...
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Re: Sion L. Coats
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:54:35 -0500
Charlotte,
Yes, there is an Ann Coates, wife of Charles Coates who died before 1810.
Then there is an Ann Coates just in the 1820 census that Joe sent whom I
can't place.
At 10:00 AM 12/30/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Didn't we have an Ann Cotes in Newberry County SC...either a will or some
>land?
>
>Char
>
>
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Re: Sion L. Coats
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 06:55:56 -0500
>
>I've been looking for your Gabriel as long as I've known you and haven't
>found anything to help you. When and where did your Gabriel die? I
>just realized that I don't even have him entered in my database, so I sure
>could use an update on the facts you know about Gabriel. Could you recall
>for me the letter where you described him buying a cow from an estate, and
>theorizing that he would have to live close to that person to get his cow
>home. I didn't know that the 1810 census gave specific birth years or was
>1801 the earliest he could have been born according to their age
>categories?
>
>As for the Ann Cotes you found living in Kershaw Co. census records, I've
>gone through my entire database and found no Ann married to a Coates/s who
>could match her. I am assuming she is one of the wives to a Kershaw Co.
>Coates.. Deeds for sales of property in Kershaw Co., SC would likely give
>her name if her husband sold property before he died.
>
>At 01:10 AM 12/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>Linda- This whole discussion about Sion Jr. and all the others is quite
>>fascinating; and yet I still haven't seen anything about a Gabriel G.
>>Coats.
>>I'm wondering now about this Ann Coats who had the son born between 1796
>>and
>>1800+.. My Gabriel was supposidly born in 1795 in Kershaw County, SC but
>>I've never seen actual proof. The 1810 Kershaw County Census says he was
>>born in 1801; his tombstone said 1795. I saw that in person when I
>>replaced
>>his broken marker a few years ago. You know anything about this Ann Coats?
>>I'm still looking for Gabriel's parents- find them and dinners on
>>me....grampajoec
>
>
> LINDA COATE,
>Columbus, Ohio
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It's all theory, but I try to tell why each child is listed under the
parent's or individual's name on my site. Your theories are
excellent. I just suspect that the original Joseph of Orangburg was
having children by 1726 through about 1756 with his son Sion Coats being
the baby of the family. That's still a stretch, so I'll be doublechecking
the theory if I can find better ages for the children I believe are his
kids. Joseph's son Joseph, I believe was probably born in the 1740s and
having children in the 60's & 70's. However, I just noticed that I
thought this was the Joseph in 1820 Camden, Kershaw Co., SC with a
daughter under age 10. It is highly unlikely to be him if the other
patterns I've noticed are correct for him. I used census records, petit
jury and court records to try and sort the families in this area and just
am coming up with slightly different conclusions. To see the records I've
quoted you'll need to follow this family on my homepage, the biographical
data for each and the sources for each at www.ancestrees.com. It's not
quite up to date as I've made changes again in the last couple days, but
please let me know if you find any flaws in my thinking if and when you get
the time to look. THANKS.
At 08:56 AM 12/30/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm always hapy to consider new information that has been taken from
>original sources. I haven't seen your website, but since you say that it
>has a list ofJoseph's children on it, perhaps you can provide the proof
>which lists those children.
>
>Even though I have never seen a document to prove Joseph Coates' sons,
>Elijah was listed as being born between 1756 and 1774; Sion b. 1770;
>Joseph (who was supposed to have married Helena Hickman) born between
>1765-1786.
>
>So what you're saying is that Joseph, the father, was b.c. 1705 and that
>the (supposed) children we can place were born between 1756 and
>1786. It would be very unusual for a man to be starting a family at
>50. Did he have a younger family?
>
>I was carefully to say that my "speculations" are based on original
>documentation that I have found. But if you've found additional docs
>(wills, deeds, census records, etc.) , please share them and I will be
>happy to amend my research.
>
>Of course I can't verify that Rev. Joseph moved between Kershaw and
>Orangeburg. ANd that might not be correct. We know that a Sion from
>Kershaw was b. between 1756 and 1765 in VA and died in 1830 leaving a
>will. This could not have been my Sion L. (b. 1770 SC). Therefore these
>2 Sions had different fathers which means that there were more early Coats
>men running around SC than we previously thought.
>
>Beverly
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:lcoate@ancestrees.com>Linda J. Coate
>To: <mailto:bzb@alltel.net>Beverly Burton ;
><mailto:COATES-L@Rootsweb.com>COATES-L(a)Rootsweb.com
>Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 3:50 PM
>Subject: Re: Sion L. Coats
>
>I've been studying this line and your sorting. It's very helpful. I do
>beg to differ with you in one theory. I believe that Joseph Sr., the
>minister of Orangeburg who you say died in 1791, was born in 1705. I'm
>taking this from a second hand source, ancestry.com, but the timing fits
>a bit better. He has a long list of children on my site, most of whom
>I don't have birthdates for. I believe his son Joseph was born
>significantly before 1750 because his daughter in law, Eleanor Hickman was
>born before 1766 herself, and her husband, Elijah Coates was listed in the
>census records from 1756 - 1774. Joseph, Jr. inherited his father's
>land in Orangeburg Co., SC and moved back from Kershaw Co., SC to
>Orangeburg according to you. WHAT YEAR WAS IT THAT THIS TOOK PLACE? I
>personally see no evidence that Joseph Jr. who moved back to Orangeburg
>Co., SC had a son named named Joseph. I do agree that he had sons named
>Sion, William and Elijah. We know from deed records that Austin Coates
>ends up owning land that belonged to Elijah. From that descendants have
>surmised that Elijah and Eleanor Hickman had a son Austin. I also
>suspect that Elijah and Eleanor had a son named Elijah who moved to Baton
>Roughe, LA because of the following record. Robbie Duroblan
>transcribed the following record from Louisiana IBERVILLE PARISH RECORDS -
>VOL 3 - compiled and edited by Judy Riffel Le Comite'des Archives de la
>Louisiane Baton Rouge,LA Page 159 Reel IV 5.1
>
>"July 5, 1820 - Elijah Coates (s/o Elijah Cates) Bond to celebrate
>Marriages (2) Index Elijah Coates same page 159"
>
>Does anyone else know where this Louisana Elijah comes from other than
>this family? We might want to be looking in Baton Rouge, LA for Elijah
>Coates and Eleanoer Hickman themselves and there descendants. We haven't
>ever found where they lived after 1806. Hope this helps this side of the
>family. Beverly, What do you think?
>
>At 03:06 PM 3/23/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>>I gonna try to answer all of your missives in one:
>>
>>I based the ages SOLELY on census records.
>>
>>I deduced the Lauderdale Sion (b. 1770 SC) was from Orangeburg because,
>>by process of elimination with census ages, he could not have been from
>>Sion (b/b 1756-1765) of Kershaw. So he had to be the Sion that shows up
>>in the 1800 O'burg census. We know from the 1850 Lauderdale census that
>>he was born in 1770 and that fits with all of the Sion from Orangeburg
>>censuses -- which vary from the Sion from Kershaw censuses. Then, if you
>>go and look back at the Orangeburg 1810 & 1820 censuses, you'll see most
>>of his married children's families -- which he named in his 1854 will --
>>listed on the same page with him.
>>
>>I hadn't started on verifying the Elizabeth Ann Marr connection. thanks
>>for sending that letter.
>>
>>Ok, this is my theory: Joseph, a Baptist minister lives in SC by
>>1752. I believe he lived in Orangeburg. He had sons William, Sion and
>>Joseph. All of these sons moved up to Camden by 1790. Sion and Joseph
>>are there on the 1790 census; William died in 1783 leaving a will naming
>>his children.
>>
>>When Joseph, Sr. died (or he may have gotten so old he lived with a son),
>>Joseph Jr. takes his property in O'burg; Sion stays in Kershaw. William
>>is still dead.
>>
>>Sion's of Kershaw children are listed in his 1830 will. According to
>>1840 & 1850 Cherokee censuses, this Sion, Jr. was b. in 1805 SC and
>>Gideon E. in 1811 SC. This matches Sion's Kershaw censuses.
>>
>>Joseph Jr. (who was probably the oldest son) lives in O'burg and his sons
>>are: Elijah, Sion (b. 1770), William and Joseph.
>>
>>When Joseph Sr. dies, Elijah and William head of to the MS
>>Territory. Not sure about little Joseph yet. Sion stays until the early
>>1830s when the indian lands open up. He and most of his children and
>>their families move to Lauderdale. He dies there in 1854 and leaves a
>>will naming his surviving children.
>>
>>I THINK that in the 1840s a couple of William's sons move to Lauderdale.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:lcoate@ancestrees.com>Linda J. Coate
>>To: <mailto:bzb@alltel.net>Beverly Burton
>>Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:01 AM
>>Subject: Re: Sion L. Coats
>>
>>I have one other piece of info for you from other correspondents that the
>>Nancy who married Sion, b. 1770, was a Nancy Foster and that she was not
>>the mother of his 10 children. They married late in life. She was his
>>second wife and widow from Kemper Co., MS. (C-2270E)
>>
>>Do you have evidence that the Sion, b. 1770 was only from Orangeburg Co.,
>>SC and not Kershaw?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 06:37 AM 3/22/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>>
>>>Ok, this is what's happened: the people who descend from Sion Coats (b.
>>>1770)who lived in Lauderdale, MS have been thinking that they descend from
>>>Sion and the Perry girls. But that's not correct. They descend from the
>>>through the Joseph in Orangeburgh.
>>>Joseph (married Elizabeth Ann Marr?) the elder had sons Sion who lived
>>>in Kershaw and Joseph who lived in
>>>Orangeburg (and probably William, too). Every consesus thru 1820 shows the
>>>Sion of Kershaw to be born between 1756 and 1774. This corresponds with
>>>the
>>>proper time frame of the Perry girls. And the censuses also have what
>>>would
>>>be his sons Sion, Jr, Gideon and John in the proper age brackets.
>>>
>>>SO that means that the Sion in Orangeburg (who we know by the 1850 census
>>>was born in 1770) could not have been in the direct line of Sion and the
>>>Perry girls. So who was his father? Best guess would be the Joesph Coats
>>>who was living in Orangeburg. Joseph drops off after the 1810 census. I
>>>think this was Joseph, Jr. the son of Joseph who was on the 1790 Camden
>>>census. (I believe that Joseph Sr. died in 1791 when somebody took over his
>>>"messenger" year at SWift Creek Church.)
>>>
>>>Also in O'burg: Elijah (b. between 1756-1774) is listed in 1800 as
>>>having 1
>>>son under 10 and 3 daughters. He is not on the 1810 census. Other
>>>researchers have said that Elijah married Eleanor Hickman.
>>>
>>>There is an Ann M. Cotes on the 1810 and she has a son in her household who
>>>was born between 1796 and 1800. Ann is still on the 1820 census with a son
>>>16-26. There was a William Cotes there in 1790. He's not listed in
>>>1800, but I don't know where he went.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <mailto:lcoate@ancestrees.com>Linda J. Coate
>>>To: <mailto:bzb@alltel.net>bzb(a)alltel.net
>>>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 5:20 PM
>>>Subject: Sion L. Coats
>>>
>>>I'd love to know more why you believe the Sion born about 1770 was the
>>>son of Joseph instead of Sion. When was this Joseph born and who were
>>>his spouse and children. This is a family that hasn't quite fit and
>>>I'd love to know more about your theories. Does it account for one
>>>more Sion in the grouping of this large family?
>>>
>>> LINDA COATE,
>>>P.O. Box 30871, Columbus, Ohio 43230:
>>>lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
>>>www.ancestrees.com
>
> LINDA COATE,
>P.O. Box 30871, Columbus, Ohio 43230:
>lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
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>
> LINDA COATE,
>Columbus, Ohio
>lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
>www.ancestrees.com
LINDA COATE,
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Didn't we have an Ann Cotes in Newberry County SC...either a will or some
land?
Char
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From: "Linda J. Coate" <lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Re: Sion L. Coats
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 06:55:56 -0500
I've been looking for your Gabriel as long as I've known you and haven't
found anything to help you. When and where did your Gabriel die? I just
realized that I don't even have him entered in my database, so I sure could
use an update on the facts you know about Gabriel. Could you recall for me
the letter where you described him buying a cow from an estate, and
theorizing that he would have to live close to that person to get his cow
home. I didn't know that the 1810 census gave specific birth years or was
1801 the earliest he could have been born according to their age categories?
As for the Ann Cotes you found living in Kershaw Co. census records, I've
gone through my entire database and found no Ann married to a Coates/s who
could match her. I am assuming she is one of the wives to a Kershaw Co.
Coates.. Deeds for sales of property in Kershaw Co., SC would likely give
her name if her husband sold property before he died.
At 01:10 AM 12/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Linda- This whole discussion about Sion Jr. and all the others is quite
>fascinating; and yet I still haven't seen anything about a Gabriel G.
>Coats.
>I'm wondering now about this Ann Coats who had the son born between 1796
>and
>1800+.. My Gabriel was supposidly born in 1795 in Kershaw County, SC but
>I've never seen actual proof. The 1810 Kershaw County Census says he was
>born in 1801; his tombstone said 1795. I saw that in person when I replaced
>his broken marker a few years ago. You know anything about this Ann Coats?
>I'm still looking for Gabriel's parents- find them and dinners on
>me....grampajoec
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Columbus, Ohio
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I've been looking for your Gabriel as long as I've known you and haven't
found anything to help you. When and where did your Gabriel die? I
just realized that I don't even have him entered in my database, so I sure
could use an update on the facts you know about Gabriel. Could you recall
for me the letter where you described him buying a cow from an estate, and
theorizing that he would have to live close to that person to get his cow
home. I didn't know that the 1810 census gave specific birth years or was
1801 the earliest he could have been born according to their age categories?
As for the Ann Cotes you found living in Kershaw Co. census records, I've
gone through my entire database and found no Ann married to a Coates/s who
could match her. I am assuming she is one of the wives to a Kershaw Co.
Coates.. Deeds for sales of property in Kershaw Co., SC would likely give
her name if her husband sold property before he died.
At 01:10 AM 12/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Linda- This whole discussion about Sion Jr. and all the others is quite
>fascinating; and yet I still haven't seen anything about a Gabriel G. Coats.
>I'm wondering now about this Ann Coats who had the son born between 1796 and
>1800+.. My Gabriel was supposidly born in 1795 in Kershaw County, SC but
>I've never seen actual proof. The 1810 Kershaw County Census says he was
>born in 1801; his tombstone said 1795. I saw that in person when I replaced
>his broken marker a few years ago. You know anything about this Ann Coats?
>I'm still looking for Gabriel's parents- find them and dinners on
>me....grampajoec
LINDA COATE,
Columbus, Ohio
lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
www.ancestrees.com
I've been studying this line and your sorting. It's very helpful. I do
beg to differ with you in one theory. I believe that Joseph Sr., the
minister of Orangeburg who you say died in 1791, was born in 1705. I'm
taking this from a second hand source, ancestry.com, but the timing fits a
bit better. He has a long list of children on my site, most of whom I
don't have birthdates for. I believe his son Joseph was born
significantly before 1750 because his daughter in law, Eleanor Hickman was
born before 1766 herself, and her husband, Elijah Coates was listed in the
census records from 1756 - 1774. Joseph, Jr. inherited his father's land
in Orangeburg Co., SC and moved back from Kershaw Co., SC to Orangeburg
according to you. WHAT YEAR WAS IT THAT THIS TOOK PLACE? I personally
see no evidence that Joseph Jr. who moved back to Orangeburg Co., SC had a
son named named Joseph. I do agree that he had sons named Sion, William
and Elijah. We know from deed records that Austin Coates ends up owning
land that belonged to Elijah. From that descendants have surmised that
Elijah and Eleanor Hickman had a son Austin. I also suspect that Elijah
and Eleanor had a son named Elijah who moved to Baton Roughe, LA because of
the following record. Robbie Duroblan transcribed the following
record from Louisiana IBERVILLE PARISH RECORDS - VOL 3 - compiled and
edited by Judy Riffel Le Comite'des Archives de la Louisiane Baton
Rouge,LA Page 159 Reel IV 5.1
"July 5, 1820 - Elijah Coates (s/o Elijah Cates) Bond to celebrate
Marriages (2) Index Elijah Coates same page 159"
Does anyone else know where this Louisana Elijah comes from other than this
family? We might want to be looking in Baton Rouge, LA for Elijah Coates
and Eleanoer Hickman themselves and there descendants. We haven't ever
found where they lived after 1806. Hope this helps this side of the
family. Beverly, What do you think?
At 03:06 PM 3/23/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>I gonna try to answer all of your missives in one:
>
>I based the ages SOLELY on census records.
>
>I deduced the Lauderdale Sion (b. 1770 SC) was from Orangeburg because, by
>process of elimination with census ages, he could not have been from Sion
>(b/b 1756-1765) of Kershaw. So he had to be the Sion that shows up in the
>1800 O'burg census. We know from the 1850 Lauderdale census that he was
>born in 1770 and that fits with all of the Sion from Orangeburg censuses
>-- which vary from the Sion from Kershaw censuses. Then, if you go and
>look back at the Orangeburg 1810 & 1820 censuses, you'll see most of his
>married children's families -- which he named in his 1854 will -- listed
>on the same page with him.
>
>I hadn't started on verifying the Elizabeth Ann Marr connection. thanks
>for sending that letter.
>
>Ok, this is my theory: Joseph, a Baptist minister lives in SC by 1752. I
>believe he lived in Orangeburg. He had sons William, Sion and
>Joseph. All of these sons moved up to Camden by 1790. Sion and Joseph
>are there on the 1790 census; William died in 1783 leaving a will naming
>his children.
>
>When Joseph, Sr. died (or he may have gotten so old he lived with a son),
>Joseph Jr. takes his property in O'burg; Sion stays in Kershaw. William
>is still dead.
>
>Sion's of Kershaw children are listed in his 1830 will. According to 1840
>& 1850 Cherokee censuses, this Sion, Jr. was b. in 1805 SC and Gideon E.
>in 1811 SC. This matches Sion's Kershaw censuses.
>
>Joseph Jr. (who was probably the oldest son) lives in O'burg and his sons
>are: Elijah, Sion (b. 1770), William and Joseph.
>
>When Joseph Sr. dies, Elijah and William head of to the MS Territory. Not
>sure about little Joseph yet. Sion stays until the early 1830s when the
>indian lands open up. He and most of his children and their families move
>to Lauderdale. He dies there in 1854 and leaves a will naming his
>surviving children.
>
>I THINK that in the 1840s a couple of William's sons move to Lauderdale.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:lcoate@ancestrees.com>Linda J. Coate
>To: <mailto:bzb@alltel.net>Beverly Burton
>Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:01 AM
>Subject: Re: Sion L. Coats
>
>I have one other piece of info for you from other correspondents that the
>Nancy who married Sion, b. 1770, was a Nancy Foster and that she was not
>the mother of his 10 children. They married late in life. She was his
>second wife and widow from Kemper Co., MS. (C-2270E)
>
>Do you have evidence that the Sion, b. 1770 was only from Orangeburg Co.,
>SC and not Kershaw?
>
>
>
>At 06:37 AM 3/22/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>
>>Ok, this is what's happened: the people who descend from Sion Coats (b.
>>1770)who lived in Lauderdale, MS have been thinking that they descend from
>>Sion and the Perry girls. But that's not correct. They descend from the
>>through the Joseph in Orangeburgh.
>>
>>Joseph (married Elizabeth Ann Marr?) the elder had sons Sion who lived in
>>Kershaw and Joseph who lived in
>>Orangeburg (and probably William, too). Every consesus thru 1820 shows the
>>Sion of Kershaw to be born between 1756 and 1774. This corresponds with the
>>proper time frame of the Perry girls. And the censuses also have what would
>>be his sons Sion, Jr, Gideon and John in the proper age brackets.
>>
>>SO that means that the Sion in Orangeburg (who we know by the 1850 census
>>was born in 1770) could not have been in the direct line of Sion and the
>>Perry girls. So who was his father? Best guess would be the Joesph Coats
>>who was living in Orangeburg. Joseph drops off after the 1810 census. I
>>think this was Joseph, Jr. the son of Joseph who was on the 1790 Camden
>>census. (I believe that Joseph Sr. died in 1791 when somebody took over his
>>"messenger" year at SWift Creek Church.)
>>
>>Also in O'burg: Elijah (b. between 1756-1774) is listed in 1800 as having 1
>>son under 10 and 3 daughters. He is not on the 1810 census. Other
>>researchers have said that Elijah married Eleanor Hickman.
>>
>>There is an Ann M. Cotes on the 1810 and she has a son in her household who
>>was born between 1796 and 1800. Ann is still on the 1820 census with a son
>>16-26. There was a William Cotes there in 1790. He's not listed in 1800,
>>but I don't know where he went.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:lcoate@ancestrees.com>Linda J. Coate
>>To: <mailto:bzb@alltel.net>bzb(a)alltel.net
>>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 5:20 PM
>>Subject: Sion L. Coats
>>
>>I'd love to know more why you believe the Sion born about 1770 was the
>>son of Joseph instead of Sion. When was this Joseph born and who were
>>his spouse and children. This is a family that hasn't quite fit and I'd
>>love to know more about your theories. Does it account for one more
>>Sion in the grouping of this large family?
>>
>> LINDA COATE,
>>P.O. Box 30871, Columbus, Ohio 43230:
>>lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
>>www.ancestrees.com
>
> LINDA COATE,
>P.O. Box 30871, Columbus, Ohio 43230:
>lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
>www.ancestrees.com
LINDA COATE,
Columbus, Ohio
lcoate(a)ancestrees.com
www.ancestrees.com
thanks Joe!! Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: "J.Coates" <grampajoec(a)planetcomm.net>
To: "Charlotte Coats" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Gabriel Coats
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 18:29:13 -0500
Char- I believe this was taken from the Master Index of the Newberry Annals
in SC. Look at bottom of first page forwarded.. I'd like to see each of the
quarterly citations etc. to see exactly what is said about all these
Coats...
grampajoec
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Thanks Joe...which quarterly is this? Char
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Greisser" <hjeg(a)inetgenesis.com>
To: "J.Coates" <grampajoec(a)planetcomm.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Gabriel Coats
> Quarterlies Index
>
>
> Coate, Esther (Teague) 45, W94
>
> Coate, Henry 36,SP95 38,39,40, SU95
>
> Coate, James 45, W94
>
> Coate, Jesse F01,31
>
> Coate, John 1,6,10,SP92; 45,W94; F01,31
>
> Coate, Lurannah (Teague) 45,W94
>
> Coate, Marmaduke 29,SP93; 36,SP95
>
> Coate, Mary ....SP02,4
>
> Coate, Moses 30, SU92
>
> Coates, John 18,SP93; 22,W96
>
> Coates, Little John 43, SP93
>
> Coates, Mary 23, F94;F01,19
>
> Coates, Nancy (Jones) 41, F92
>
> Coates, Nora 13, W95
>
> Coates, Rachel 19,22, W96
>
> Coates, Samuel 41, F92
>
> Coates, William 43, SP93
>
> Coats, Daniel Polignac 28, F93
>
> Coats, Frederick 28, F93
>
> Coats, Hannah 38,W92; 27,F93
>
> Coats, James Alexander 41, F92
>
> Coats, M.D. 41, F92
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> Coats, Mary 28, F93
>
> Coats, Mary/'Blind Mary' 41, F92
>
> Coats, Nancy 28, F93
>
> Coats, Nora 37,W00
>
> Coats, Sarah 25, F97
>
> Coats, Susan 27,28, F93
>
> Coats, Wright, 28, F93
>
>
>
> Index for Annals of Newberry
> Coat Family 55
>
> Coat's Shop 168
>
> Coate Family 782
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> Coate, Boliver 782
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> Coate, Elizabeth Long 81
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> Coate, H. 432
>
> Coate, Henry 50, 77, 79, 80, 83, 93, 338, 519
>
> Coate, James 60, 338
>
> Coate, Jesse 338
>
> Coate, John 12, 15, 16, 28, 60, 77, 79, 121, 122, 338, 782, 783
>
> Coate, John Mrs. 733
>
> Coate, Marmaduke 79, 121, 136, 338
>
> Coate, Mary 121
>
> Coate, Mary Long 81
> Coate, Moses 338
>
> Coate, Nancy Rotton 121
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> Coate, O. S. 783
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> Coate, Samuel 338
>
> Coate, Sims 782
>
> Coate, William 12, 28, 286
>
> Coate's Meeting House 518, 519, 520, 521
>
> Coate's Shop 12, 37
>
> Coates Family 65
>
> Coates, Billy 12
>
> Coates, Drayton N. 415
>
> Coates, H. P. 433
>
> Coates, Henry 415
>
> Coates, James 121
>
> Coates, John 14, 232
>
> Coates, Mr. 404, 500
>
>
>
> John Coate donated 2 acres in the center of the town of Newberry for
public
> use - on it today is the Old Court House and public square.
>
>
>
> Sorry I could not help
>
>
> Have you searched New Jersey Quaker records by Henshaw? Quite a few
Quakers
> later became Methodist.
>
>
>
> Edith
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J.Coates" <grampajoec(a)planetcomm.net>
> To: <hjeg(a)inetgenesis.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:49 PM
> Subject: Gabriel Coats
>
>
> > Please search the Master Index of quarterly publications and see if
there
> > is anything pertaining to Gabriel Coats, born 1795-1801 in present day
> > Kershaw County,SC. Looking high and low for his parents names, their
> > children etc. Any help or suggestions most appreciated.. Joe R.
Coates
> >
> > grampajoec(a)planetcomm.net
> >
> >
>
>
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Does anyone have any information on Hannah COATES, daughter of Mark COATES? She married William DENNIS on 5 December 1858 at Thorpe Bassett, Yorkshire, England. They appear to be in the 1881 British Census and then I could only find Hannah DENNIS, age 63 years in the 1991 Census List. Her Civil Parish was Malton.
I would love to know if they had a family, and if so where are the descendants.
Thanks.
Rae Magson
New Zealand
There are 2 Jeremiah Coats. The older one born @1805 and moved to Missouri was identified as Benjamin Watts Son in the Neva Maxine Coats Staples book. The 2nd Jeremiah according to the censuses seems to be born @1814-1817. The 2nd Jeremiah is identified as Benjamin and Anna's son and as brother to Tempy all deceased in the probate records of Smith Co., TN. They can be found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/smithprobatecourt3.htm
on pages 25 & 26. Jeremiah who resides in williamson Co., Tn, appoints Willis A. Cozart his attorney. Willis is his son-in-law(married Mary Ann Coats b.Smith Co., TN). Also William Klope(his brother-in-law) vouches that he knows him to be the son of Benjamin and Anna Coats and brother of Tempy all deceased of Smith Co., TN. These records prove that the 2nd Jeremiah is the son of Benjamin Watts Coats and not the 1st Jeremiah as many researchers believe. Search these probate records for Coates and you will find information about his other heirs.
If interested I have further information about the 2nd Jeremiah.
Carol McClinton
-------- Original Message --------
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 11:37:08 -0600
From: "Lynn Pipher" <lynnp(a)totelcsi.net>
Reply-To: kansas-l(a)raven.cc.ku.edu
To: kansas-l(a)raven.cc.ku.edu
There is a legend in one branch of my family about 16 cowboys who came down
from Emporia to settle on Grouse Creek between Burden and Dexter, KS in
Cowley County. An obituary(of H. R. Branson) in the Winfield Courier in
1907 lists these cowboys as: Henry Randall Branson Gilbert H. Branson Newt
Phenis Charles Phenis S. Levertson J. H. Nichold Tom Coats William Coats
John Coats Henry Hawprth Joe Reynolds William Jackson T. J. Raybell Walter
Raybell Ed Walters Levi B. Bullington
Supposedly these cowboys laid claim to the area and then settled or sold
their claim to others. Curiously, when looking through the land records in
the Cowley County Courthouse, the first landowners are listed as getting
their land from the government, yet these guys are purported to have shown
up while the Osages still owned the land. I ran into the same situation up
in the Jefferson County Courthouse in Oskaloosa for my Pipher ancestors.
They were there before 1870 but all the land claims seem to start in 1870.
In the Chautauqua County Courthouse, the first person listed in the book of
deeds bought his ground from someone else in 1870, not the U.S. Government.
How did they do this? I am not sure that I understand all the nuances of
land ownership in the early days of KS.
Some of these surnames are listed in the Mary Goe Hanksins notes that I
posted earlier on this list. I wonder if there are any members on the list
from the Emporia area that are familiar with the tale?
Lynn from Sedan
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December 01. 2002 12:00AM
Carol M. Coates, 84
Carol M. Coates, 84, of Hendersonville passed away Saturday, Nov. 30,
2002, at Pardee Memorial Hospital.
He was the son of the late Max C. Coates and Catherine Fisher Coates.
A veteran of the Army, 12th Armored Division, he retired from Kimberly
Clark and the Times-News and was a member of Etowah Baptist Church.
He was preceded in death by a brother, Luther B. Coates and two sisters,
Mamie Loftis and Gertie Smith.
Survivors include his wife, Velma G. Coates, one son, Carol M. Coates Jr.
of Central, S.C., two grandchildren, R. Bart Coates, of Hendersonville
and Kimberly Hungerford and her husband, James, of Fletcher and two
grandchildren, Brooke and Riley Hungerford of Fletcher.
A funeral will be held Monday at 1 p.m. at Etowah Baptist Church with the
Revs. Paul Noe, Jack Hyde and Chris Morgan officiating. Interment will
follow at Forest Lawn Memorial Park. Serving as pallbearers will be Brian
Collins, Don Souther, James Hungerford, Grady Gilbert, Kim Bertram and B.
Bart Coates with military graveside rites conducted by the Hedrick-Rhodes
VFW Post 5206, Hubert M. Smith American Legion Post 77 and the Disabled
American Veterans Chapter 14.
The family will receive friends from 6 to 8 p.m. Sunday at Jackson
Funeral Service and at other times at his residence.
Jackson Funeral Service is in charge of arrangements.
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