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I don't know about the rest of you...but I find this outrageous...why they
don't put these records on line like the VA Digital Library is beyond me....
This is the National Archives Folks, our tax dollars support it...seems to
me rather than increasing the prices they should be developing their web
site...to get these records on line!!!
Geeeessshhhhh....Char
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Subject: NARA
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:36:07 -0800
On another list the following came from a staff member of the National
Archives
The National Archives will be increasing the price of
Military Service Records from $10 to $17.50
Pension Records (Rev. War, Civil War, etc.) from $10 to $40
Effective July 1, 2000
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Thomas Coates and his family arrived in Nova Scotia aboard the Duke of York
in 1772. There have been Coates in the Atlantic Provinces since that time.
Thomas Coates settled in the Fort Lawrence area (Nappan), Nova Scotia and in
1804 moved part of his family to the Sussex, NB area.
David A. Coates
Charlotte, NC, USA
You may be aware that during the Revolution, hundreds of loyalists fled the
colonies and went to Nova Scotia. Because of that, I wouldn't dismiss the
idea that the NF Coates are of the same tribe as the US Coates.
DJ
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From: Andrew Aidan Coates <r67aac(a)morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
Sent: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:23:30 -0330 (NST)
To: charlotte.coats(a)coatsarchive.zzn.com
Subject: Coates!
Hello!
Allow me to introduce myself
Andrew Coates of St. John's Newfoundland, Canada.
I stumbled into your Coats/Coates lineage website and I was
impressed. As
you would know our surname isn't a particularly commen one!
I wanted to put you onto, if you were not already aware, the presence
of a
number of families of Coates in Newfoundland, particularly in the
communities of Main Brook, Upper Gullies, Eddie's Cove, and a few
others.
Unfortunately I do not know much about the family lineage of
Newfoundland.
I am curious as to the distance in relation of the NF Coates
families and
those various groups in the US!
Thanx!
Andrew Coates
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There is a Thomas Coates who lived in Philadelphia with siblings Daniel,
Martha, and John who might be the Thomas you mention below. I don't know
their parent's names however. Do you have the names of Thomas' other
children?
At 07:44 PM 2/27/2000 -0800, you wrote:
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>From: Robert Rizzonelli <rizzo(a)velocity.net>
>To: coats(a)hotmail.com
>Subject: COATES GENEALOGY
>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 00:04:09 -0500
>
>I have THOMAS COATES born 1649 PA and had
>
>ELIZABETH COATES born 1675 in PA died 3/15/1747-48 in PA married to
>WILLIAM PALMER abt. 1699 PA and had
>
>MARTHA PALMER
>
>I got Coates from Internet, via 2 sites.
>My name is BECKEY RIZZONELLI
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From: Robert Rizzonelli <rizzo(a)velocity.net>
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Subject: COATES GENEALOGY
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 00:04:09 -0500
I have THOMAS COATES born 1649 PA and had
ELIZABETH COATES born 1675 in PA died 3/15/1747-48 in PA married to
WILLIAM PALMER abt. 1699 PA and had
MARTHA PALMER
I got Coates from Internet, via 2 sites.
My name is BECKEY RIZZONELLI
Rizzo(a)Velocity.net
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Don't you mean that your Esther was the d. of Marmaduke and Mary Jane
Coppock Coate? If not, sure would love to know the source for Paddock.
At 01:32 PM 2/26/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>Remember if you wish to communitcate with someone on a forwarded message
>you need to add their email address to the IN BOX...Char
>
>
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>From: Hope Chamberlain <hopeis4u(a)web1.ecol.net>
>To: coats(a)hotmail.com
>Subject: Marmaduke Coate & dau. Esther
>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:47:28 -0600
>
>Hi Charlotte,
>
>My 5th great grandmother was Esther Coate, daughter of Marmaduke Coate and
>Mary Jane Paddock. Esther Coate's daughter, Mary Pemberton, was married to
>my 4th great grandfather, Abner Barrett.
>
>By any chance, do you, or someone you know, have a copy of the will or text
>of the will of Marmaduke Coate or that of his daughter, Esther Coate
>Pemberton? I am trying to find the answers to a few 'mysteries' regarding
>the children of Isaiah Pemberton, Jr. and Esther Coate, as well as a
>'mystery' regarding the large land holdings of their son-in-law, Abner
>Barrett. I am hopeful that an examination of Marmaduke's will or that of
>his daughter, Esther Coate Pemberton, will 'shed some light'.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Hope Chamberlain
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Do tell us more about this family please.
At 01:22 PM 2/26/2000 -0800, you wrote:
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>From: "Colleen Hammond" <CHAMM682(a)email.msn.com>
>To: <bloodally(a)juno.com>
>CC: <coats(a)hotmail.com>
>Subject: Steward Coats
>Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:12:43 -0000
>
>I am very interested in your Steward Coats from Pennsylvania. I think he
>was probably Lydia Coats' sister, not father. Where/how did you locate him
>in Pennsylvania? Any other details?
>
>Thanks,
>
>CMH
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From: "Tom Taylor" <tomt(a)myhome.net>
Sent: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 01:30:41 -0800
To: <charlotte.coats(a)coatsarchive.zzn.com>
Subject: My gr-gr-grandmother, Ann Coats Peterson
Hi
Just thought I contribute this. Don't even know if you want me
to. But I'm
not having much luck finding anything out about my gr-gr-grandmother
born in
England.
All I know about my gr-gr-grandmother, Ann Coats Peterson, is she was
born
in England and she married Perry A. Peterson in Illinois, gave birth
to Abel
Perry Peterson (my gr-grandfather) in Winnebago Co, IL in 1856
Love
Sheri Taylor (granddaughter of Edith Florence Peterson Enyeart
Genealogy Page
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/8256/gene.html
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From: Hope Chamberlain <hopeis4u(a)web1.ecol.net>
To: coats(a)hotmail.com
Subject: Marmaduke Coate & dau. Esther
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:47:28 -0600
Hi Charlotte,
My 5th great grandmother was Esther Coate, daughter of Marmaduke Coate and
Mary Jane Paddock. Esther Coate's daughter, Mary Pemberton, was married to
my 4th great grandfather, Abner Barrett.
By any chance, do you, or someone you know, have a copy of the will or text
of the will of Marmaduke Coate or that of his daughter, Esther Coate
Pemberton? I am trying to find the answers to a few 'mysteries' regarding
the children of Isaiah Pemberton, Jr. and Esther Coate, as well as a
'mystery' regarding the large land holdings of their son-in-law, Abner
Barrett. I am hopeful that an examination of Marmaduke's will or that of
his daughter, Esther Coate Pemberton, will 'shed some light'.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hope Chamberlain
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Slight correction, We can't find any verification that Rachel Ann Budd was
real except for the fact that Budd's lived in the same areas in England and
PA/NJ where the Coates lived... William traces on a time line well from
Hunterdon Co., NJ to Newberry, SC as the William who was mentioned in the
Newberry annals from about 1762.... He is the brother of Henry Coate
married to Esther Wilson below.
At 11:59 PM 2/25/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>Karen, Linda Dudick's site has much info on these...but the old Coats
>genealogy past William Coate and Ann Pole is not documented and there is
>still several theories on the Henry Coate and Esther Wilson I believe,
>although one of the theories on William Coate has been disproven and we
>can't find hide nor hair of William Coate and a Rachel Ann Budd, anywhere....
>
>Char
>
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>From: RkMontg342(a)aol.com
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [COATES-L] Jesse Coats
>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:48:26 EST
>
>Hello List,
>
>It's been a while since I've actually looked closely over my notes, etc.,
>but, I believe the following line has now been disproven past Thomas & Sarah
>Ann?
>
>David Miles/Miles David Coats & Mary Humphries
> Jesse Coats & Catharine Miles
> Thomas Coats & Sarah Anne Jones/Miles
>
> Henry Coate & Esther Wilson
> William Coats & Rachel Ann Budd
> Samuel Coats & Mary Saunders
> John Coats & Eliz. Humphries
> Henry "Elder" Coats & ?
> Marmaduke Coats & Mary Marie Skinner
> Peter Coats & Susan Metcalf
> Peter Coats & Sarah Ann Deeley
> Thomas Coats & Catherine
>Renfreushier
> Benjamin Coats & Eliza
>Ann Argyel
> Moses Coats &
>Susannah Coppock
>
>Please direct me to a site, or information to help straighten me out.
>Appreciate it.
>
>Karen Foster Montgomery
>
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From: "Colleen Hammond" <CHAMM682(a)email.msn.com>
To: <bloodally(a)juno.com>
CC: <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Steward Coats #2
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:17:19 -0000
Of course, I meant that Steward was Lydia's "brother", not "sister". Sorry
for the "senior moment"...
CMH
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From: "Colleen Hammond" <CHAMM682(a)email.msn.com>
To: <bloodally(a)juno.com>
CC: <coats(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Steward Coats
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:12:43 -0000
I am very interested in your Steward Coats from Pennsylvania. I think he
was probably Lydia Coats' sister, not father. Where/how did you locate him
in Pennsylvania? Any other details?
Thanks,
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What I can tell you for sure is that the ancestors listed below for
Marmaduke & Mary Marie Skinner have absolutely no iota of 1st hand proof
that anyone's ever found or shown.... It's from a common reprint of the
"Old Coates Genealogy" supposedly done by a "professional" genealogist at
the turn of the century for a Coate family hunting for their family
tree.... When the persons in that lineage actually match real persons
that can be verified in any actual document -- the years of their births
and marriages are off by at least 20 years and it has out and out provably
incorrect connections in one major generation. I suggest not continuing
something so poorly sourced.... In reality the 2 generations before that
also are theory.... In other words, John Coate who died 1699 married to
Elizabeth Humphries is possibly, even probably, the son of Henry who is
the son of Marmaduke and Mary Skinner.... based on actual records of
persons living at the time and the names of the children they had in the
records. In my point of view, it's the best match that we have from
several choices from records that have been located in England at this time...
Now to your actual question. We really do not know the actual parents of
your Thomas and Sarah Ann Coate at this time. I have him theorectically
under the son of William Coate and Rachel Ann Budd. William would be the
brother to Henry below. Here is what I have on your Thomas on my
homepage at www.ancestrees.com . Hope it helps a little.
"This Thomas could be the Thomas who died in 1800 and was married to
Sarah Ann. His children would have been James, Ann, Katy, Mary, Wm, Jesse,
and Sarah as named in his will. No proof has been found other than the
fact that this is the only Thomas that is the right age in the right place
to be the son of William and Rachel Ann Budd. See Gary W. Coats in
Portland, Oregon for proof on the Thomas's lines that he is not. (C-556, p.
85) He had a son named Jesse who was in the 1800 Newberry Co. census
records between the ages of 16 and 26 with a wife of the same age and one
son and daughter under age ten. (C-931)
According to Medlin Thomas is married to Sarah Ann Leek, though
usually her surname is unlisted. (C-2243)
Thomas who was granted 250 acres of land in Berkley Co, SC on April
2, 1773. He purchased the land from James Abernathy on Aug. 14, 1772 and
it was certified on Dec. 1, 1772. (C-912, 1409, 1707, 1694) His
original neighbors were John Gray (Gary?) and Charles Croes. A plat map
for William Miles in 1784, does show Thomas Coats land adjoining
it. (C-1843, Table folder) Thomas lived fairly near James and Rebekah
Coate in the Beaverdam Creek area off of Bush River (not the Saluda
River). It is likely that Thomas and James are related. Currently I
believe their relationship is as first cousins. However, if Thomas proves
not to be the father of Notley and he was born as late as the 1750's, we
should consider the possibility that his parents were James and Rebecah
Coate.
There is a Thomas who had 8 members living with him in Essex Co., VA
in 1783 that has the right number of household members to match him
according to Gary Coats of Oregon. He does not appear to be listed in the
1790 or 1800 census records.
Thomas who was appointed overseer by the court in Newberry Co. in
the July term of 1793 of the new road leading from the long Lane to
intersect the old Ninety Six Road near the Widow Resses. His part of the
responsibility was "to open and keep in repair the end of the said road
from Davises Race-paths to the ninety six road." (C-1528)
He was apparently a member of the Enoree Baptist Church in Newberry,
SC as was a younger Charles Coates. (C-2043)
He wrote his will in 1799 and listed his residence as Newberry Co.,
SC. He had died by 1801 when his estate was administered. (C-266) He
names his wife, Sarahann, sons James, William, and Jesse; daughters: Caty,
Mary and Sarah. He names William Miles, executor and wife, Sarahann as
executrix. Purchasers of his estate included Sarahann (wife), Jesse (son),
William (son) and Wright Coat (son of Big John). His son William probably
died shortly thereafter in 1804. His estate was administered on May 8,
1804. Mary Coats (wife), Richard Leavell, Joseph Jones ( possible
father-in-law if Sarah Ann's maiden name was Jones) and Jesse Coats (son?
or brother?) were his administrators. His appaisers were William and
Samuel Miles and John Leavel. William Miles (Father of "Caty" Miles
Coate) helped administer both Thomas's and William's estate. He also is
the William Miles that lived next to Thomas Coate. The will was witnessed
in Newberry, SC. (C-886, 1633, 1694)"
At 06:48 PM 2/25/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello List,
>
>It's been a while since I've actually looked closely over my notes, etc.,
>but, I believe the following line has now been disproven past Thomas & Sarah
>Ann?
>
>David Miles/Miles David Coats & Mary Humphries
> Jesse Coats & Catharine Miles
> Thomas Coats & Sarah Anne Jones/Miles
>
> Henry Coate & Esther Wilson
> William Coats & Rachel Ann Budd
> Samuel Coats & Mary Saunders
> John Coats & Eliz. Humphries
> Henry "Elder" Coats & ?
> Marmaduke Coats & Mary Marie Skinner
> Peter Coats & Susan Metcalf
> Peter Coats & Sarah Ann Deeley
> Thomas Coats & Catherine
>Renfreushier
> Benjamin Coats & Eliza
>Ann Argyel
> Moses Coats &
>Susannah Coppock
>
>Please direct me to a site, or information to help straighten me out.
>Appreciate it.
>
>Karen Foster Montgomery
>
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From: YEstes(a)aol.com
Sent: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:58:37 EST
To: charlotte.coats(a)coatsarchive.zzn.com
Subject: About Eugene Coates
Hello,
My name is Dr. Yvonne Estes. I am a college professor. Some
years ago I
bought a picture in a postcard archive that showed a tall man
standing beside
a sod house with a horse. On the back was a note about paying land
taxes.
It is signed Eugene Coates. I have no idea what state or territory
he was in
or when the picture was made, but I imagine it was made by an
itinerant
photographer. I bought the picture (for twelve dollars, a lot for a
postcard) because the man looks so earnest and brave, and I wanted my
students to look into his eyes and see a real pioneer. I do not know
if you
are related to this man. I hope that you are, and that you can tell
me about
his fate. I hope he had a happy life, and I hope he held on to his
farm. I
have found some other references to men by the name of Eugene Coates
on the
Internet, and I thought I would contact you, because you had the
best-organized web site.
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Karen, Linda Dudick's site has much info on these...but the old Coats
genealogy past William Coate and Ann Pole is not documented and there is
still several theories on the Henry Coate and Esther Wilson I believe,
although one of the theories on William Coate has been disproven and we
can't find hide nor hair of William Coate and a Rachel Ann Budd,
anywhere....
Char
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From: RkMontg342(a)aol.com
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COATES-L] Jesse Coats
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:48:26 EST
Hello List,
It's been a while since I've actually looked closely over my notes, etc.,
but, I believe the following line has now been disproven past Thomas & Sarah
Ann?
David Miles/Miles David Coats & Mary Humphries
Jesse Coats & Catharine Miles
Thomas Coats & Sarah Anne Jones/Miles
Henry Coate & Esther Wilson
William Coats & Rachel Ann Budd
Samuel Coats & Mary Saunders
John Coats & Eliz. Humphries
Henry "Elder" Coats & ?
Marmaduke Coats & Mary Marie Skinner
Peter Coats & Susan Metcalf
Peter Coats & Sarah Ann Deeley
Thomas Coats & Catherine
Renfreushier
Benjamin Coats & Eliza
Ann Argyel
Moses Coats &
Susannah Coppock
Please direct me to a site, or information to help straighten me out.
Appreciate it.
Karen Foster Montgomery
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Hello List,
It's been a while since I've actually looked closely over my notes, etc.,
but, I believe the following line has now been disproven past Thomas & Sarah
Ann?
David Miles/Miles David Coats & Mary Humphries
Jesse Coats & Catharine Miles
Thomas Coats & Sarah Anne Jones/Miles
Henry Coate & Esther Wilson
William Coats & Rachel Ann Budd
Samuel Coats & Mary Saunders
John Coats & Eliz. Humphries
Henry "Elder" Coats & ?
Marmaduke Coats & Mary Marie Skinner
Peter Coats & Susan Metcalf
Peter Coats & Sarah Ann Deeley
Thomas Coats & Catherine
Renfreushier
Benjamin Coats & Eliza
Ann Argyel
Moses Coats &
Susannah Coppock
Please direct me to a site, or information to help straighten me out.
Appreciate it.
Karen Foster Montgomery
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From: "Colleen Hammond" <CHAMM682(a)email.msn.com>
To: <coats(a)lawyer4u.com>
Subject: lydia coats
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:59:04 -0000
Trying to find a Lydia Coats, born 1790 - 1800 in Pennsylvania, married
Oliver Hammond approx. 1820. They moved to Jasper County, Indiana and had
seven children. Lydia's father could have been a Steward Coats.
Any info?
Thanks.
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