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I am looking to find information on the William Coates who married Nancy
Shipp on May 1, 1824 in Halifax County, VA - I have just found out there is a
possibility that his father or grandfather was Samuel Coates. His marraige
certificate to Nancy shows his middle initial as the letter A. I have also
been told that William may have married previously to a Sarah Moorefield in
Dec 1818. Does anyone have any info on this Coates line? Happy New Year
everyone.
Gotta go watch that ball come down in NY...
Best to all in the New Year...and we'll get it all figured out...honest...<g>
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I'm wondering if the 'other' Henry in these discussions is 'my' Henry. He was
married first (but unconfirmed) to Mary Pitts and then to Hannah ?. In
earlier discussions we've referred to him as Henry of Goosepond Creek as he
apparently owned that property.
- Janet
In a message dated 12/31/2000 1:44:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
coats(a)hotmail.com writes:
<< You know folks....this Henry Coats m to a Mary deed seems to have been
looked over by a lot of early researchers...just like so many other Coats in
the SC area...I still can't get over the fact that Charles Coats was a rather
prominent person in Newberry SC yet not one even mentions him in any of their
research....
I think a lot of researchers have tried to mold the documents to their
theories rather than letting the documents lead them to theories...
This includes Medlin...his research doesn't appear to mention or has
overlooked this Henry Coats m to Mary as well...
Char >>
You know folks....this Henry Coats m to a Mary deed seems to have been looked over by a lot of early researchers...just like so many other Coats in the SC area...I still can't get over the fact that Charles Coats was a rather prominent person in Newberry SC yet not one even mentions him in any of their research....
I think a lot of researchers have tried to mold the documents to their theories rather than letting the documents lead them to theories...
This includes Medlin...his research doesn't appear to mention or has overlooked this Henry Coats m to Mary as well...
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Another thing is the adjoining land owners aren't the same...Char
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda J. Dudick
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 4:05 AM
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: [COATES-L] Re: "LittleJohn" Coate connect to Henry & Es
>Yes, I understand your point. They were much better about referring to
>Big than to Little, but I've sorted the Johns carefully. The one who
>sells Henry's land, is living in the right place to be Little John and
>more importantly, his wife's name is Susannah in the deed sale, which is
>the only John with that name. Big John lives about 6 miles to the north
>west of Little John if memory serves ... not with the same neighbors or
>original land owners...
>>I do think that John Coate was the son of Henry Coate and the deeds are
>>recorded back to back...but they don't refer to him as Little John
>>Coate....I think we need to be careful with these titles...there is a
>>deed that does refer to Little John Coate as an adjoining land owner to a
>>Henry Coate...but that is the only reference to a *Little* John
>>Coate...why would they refer to a *Little* John Coate and then later just
>>John Coate...I think they could be two different people...then you go to
>>Edgefield I think it was and some deeds refer to him as Little John,
>>that's from memory...that just seems strange to me...so I think we need
>>to be careful...lumping all these folks together without more info...
>>
>>The same applies to *Big* John Coate, there are deeds that refer to *Big*
>>John Coate, there are also deeds that don't...and the will that has been
>>attributed to *Big* doesn't refer to him as *Big* John Coate...
>>
>>I think we need to be careful in lumping everyone together...it just
>>seems strange that sometimes they use Big and Little and yet other times
>>they don't...that doesn't seem to fit for me...
>>
>>Happy New Year, btw...
>>
>>Char
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Etta Cooper
>>Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 5:09 PM
>>To: bencoate(a)jps.net; coats(a)hotmail.com; COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>>Subject: "LittleJohn" Coate connect to Henry & Esther Willson Coate
>>
>>
>>Coates Listers:
>>
>>As per quote in E-Mail dated 30 Dec 2000, from Linda Dudick and her
>>assessment of data she found about "LittleJohn" and probable father Henry.
>>
>>"Lastly, when father Henry dies, he does not will or deed out his 200
>>acres that he purchased in 1765. However, this same parcel of land is
>>sold by Little John in 1792 proving the descent from my point of
>>view. More specifically, Henry Coate purchases 200 acres from John
>>Brooks on July 29, 1765. It was on Scotts Creek with no adjacent
>>families. John Brooks had purchased it on Aug 26,1757. It consisted of
>>some buildings and pasture lands. Then, (Little) John Coate and his wife
>>Susannah sell to Peter Buffington 200 acres on Nov. 14, 1792. The land
>>was on Scotts Creek, and was originally purchased by John Brooks on Sep.
>>19, 1758 (when the transaction was completed). The filing of the deeds
>>clinches it. Henry's purchase of 1765 was not filed until 1792 (years
>>after Henry's death) and is filed directly before this John sells the
>>same property to Peter Buffington according to one set of SC deed records. "
>>
>>Will be back to correct data I keyed in wrong about Mary Coate, 1st wife
>>of Marmaduke "Duke" when there is time. I'm still losing letters being
>>composed (hit the wrong key) and can never find them again. The ole
>>blood pressure goes up and I have to take a break.
>>
>>My documentation will be when I can find my data after changing from FTM
>>to Family Origins and going to the library again.
>>
>>Happy hunting to all and a prosperous 2001.
>>Etta Cooper<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a
>>href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>
>>
>>
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>>Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive:
>>http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar
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But we don't have any records showing that Capt Henry Coate had a wife named Mary...so it's just conjecture at this point that the Henry's are the same person...plus...why would the records refer to Little John, very clearly, but then in other not refer to him as little john...
When were the Annals of Newberry Written...?
Char
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda J. Dudick
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 4:58 AM
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COATES-L] Annals of Newberry
I just found my copy of the Annals of Newberry, and that's the source we've
all taken it from that Little John is the father of Marmaduke (called Duke)
the surveyor (p. 148) "Marmaduke Coate, the youngest son of John Coate,
(little) lived in Newberry from 1812 to 1828. He was a surveryor of much
experience." (Annals of Newberry) Which equity court record lists the
brother to Marmaduke as Capt. Henry Coate? If it really lists them both
that way, then we do have the family mapped out correctly to the best
evidence available. Little John is the father of Marmaduke the surveyor
and Capt. Henry. That and the land records of the Henry living next to
Little John, that Capt. Henry had a wife named Mary before the other 2
wives..... something I previously conjectured on, on my homepage.....
Also, I noticed when reading it this time, it keeps referring to the
"Annals" said and occasionally it makes a correction on the Annals... Is
there more than one version of this? I'm answering my own question as I
read. I think the original was by Judge Oneal in 1856, then a 2nd one in
1892 reviewing and adding to the material in the original by Oneal and
Chapman....
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I just found my copy of the Annals of Newberry, and that's the source we've
all taken it from that Little John is the father of Marmaduke (called Duke)
the surveyor (p. 148) "Marmaduke Coate, the youngest son of John Coate,
(little) lived in Newberry from 1812 to 1828. He was a surveryor of much
experience." (Annals of Newberry) Which equity court record lists the
brother to Marmaduke as Capt. Henry Coate? If it really lists them both
that way, then we do have the family mapped out correctly to the best
evidence available. Little John is the father of Marmaduke the surveyor
and Capt. Henry. That and the land records of the Henry living next to
Little John, that Capt. Henry had a wife named Mary before the other 2
wives..... something I previously conjectured on, on my homepage.....
Also, I noticed when reading it this time, it keeps referring to the
"Annals" said and occasionally it makes a correction on the Annals... Is
there more than one version of this? I'm answering my own question as I
read. I think the original was by Judge Oneal in 1856, then a 2nd one in
1892 reviewing and adding to the material in the original by Oneal and
Chapman....
>Yes, I understand your point. They were much better about referring to
>Big than to Little, but I've sorted the Johns carefully. The one who
>sells Henry's land, is living in the right place to be Little John and
>more importantly, his wife's name is Susannah in the deed sale, which is
>the only John with that name. Big John lives about 6 miles to the north
>west of Little John if memory serves ... not with the same neighbors or
>original land owners...
>>I do think that John Coate was the son of Henry Coate and the deeds are
>>recorded back to back...but they don't refer to him as Little John
>>Coate....I think we need to be careful with these titles...there is a
>>deed that does refer to Little John Coate as an adjoining land owner to a
>>Henry Coate...but that is the only reference to a *Little* John
>>Coate...why would they refer to a *Little* John Coate and then later just
>>John Coate...I think they could be two different people...then you go to
>>Edgefield I think it was and some deeds refer to him as Little John,
>>that's from memory...that just seems strange to me...so I think we need
>>to be careful...lumping all these folks together without more info...
>>
>>The same applies to *Big* John Coate, there are deeds that refer to *Big*
>>John Coate, there are also deeds that don't...and the will that has been
>>attributed to *Big* doesn't refer to him as *Big* John Coate...
>>
>>I think we need to be careful in lumping everyone together...it just
>>seems strange that sometimes they use Big and Little and yet other times
>>they don't...that doesn't seem to fit for me...
>>
>>Happy New Year, btw...
>>
>>Char
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Etta Cooper
>>Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 5:09 PM
>>To: bencoate(a)jps.net; coats(a)hotmail.com; COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>>Subject: "LittleJohn" Coate connect to Henry & Esther Willson Coate
>>
>>
>>Coates Listers:
>>
>>As per quote in E-Mail dated 30 Dec 2000, from Linda Dudick and her
>>assessment of data she found about "LittleJohn" and probable father Henry.
>>
>>"Lastly, when father Henry dies, he does not will or deed out his 200
>>acres that he purchased in 1765. However, this same parcel of land is
>>sold by Little John in 1792 proving the descent from my point of
>>view. More specifically, Henry Coate purchases 200 acres from John
>>Brooks on July 29, 1765. It was on Scotts Creek with no adjacent
>>families. John Brooks had purchased it on Aug 26,1757. It consisted of
>>some buildings and pasture lands. Then, (Little) John Coate and his wife
>>Susannah sell to Peter Buffington 200 acres on Nov. 14, 1792. The land
>>was on Scotts Creek, and was originally purchased by John Brooks on Sep.
>>19, 1758 (when the transaction was completed). The filing of the deeds
>>clinches it. Henry's purchase of 1765 was not filed until 1792 (years
>>after Henry's death) and is filed directly before this John sells the
>>same property to Peter Buffington according to one set of SC deed records. "
>>
>>Will be back to correct data I keyed in wrong about Mary Coate, 1st wife
>>of Marmaduke "Duke" when there is time. I'm still losing letters being
>>composed (hit the wrong key) and can never find them again. The ole
>>blood pressure goes up and I have to take a break.
>>
>>My documentation will be when I can find my data after changing from FTM
>>to Family Origins and going to the library again.
>>
>>Happy hunting to all and a prosperous 2001.
>>Etta Cooper<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a
>>href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>
>>
>>
>>==== COATES Mailing List ====
>>Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive:
>>http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar
Coates Listers:
As per quote in E-Mail dated 30 Dec 2000, from Linda Dudick and her
assessment of data she found about "LittleJohn" and probable father Henry.
"Lastly, when father Henry dies, he does not will or deed out his 200 acres
that he purchased in 1765. However, this same parcel of land is sold by
Little John in 1792 proving the descent from my point of view. More
specifically, Henry Coate purchases 200 acres from John Brooks on July 29,
1765. It was on Scotts Creek with no adjacent families. John Brooks had
purchased it on Aug 26,1757. It consisted of some buildings and pasture
lands. Then, (Little) John Coate and his wife Susannah sell to Peter
Buffington 200 acres on Nov. 14, 1792. The land was on Scotts Creek, and
was originally purchased by John Brooks on Sep. 19, 1758 (when the
transaction was completed). The filing of the deeds clinches it. Henry's
purchase of 1765 was not filed until 1792 (years after Henry's death) and is
filed directly before this John sells the same property to Peter Buffington
according to one set of SC deed records. "
Will be back to correct data I keyed in wrong about Mary Coate, 1st wife
of Marmaduke "Duke" when there is time. I'm still losing letters being
composed (hit the wrong key) and can never find them again. The ole blood
pressure goes up and I have to take a break.
My documentation will be when I can find my data after changing from FTM to
Family Origins and going to the library again.
Happy hunting to all and a prosperous 2001.
Etta Cooper
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We also know from the Equity court records that Capt Henry Coate and Marmaduke were brothers and that their father's name was John Coate...but I don't think this is Little John Coate
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http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/docsnewberry.htm
That deed is located here as well, page down to 1794, Henry Coate, wife Mary to Francis Atkins, but it looks like Alkins on the deed...the transcribed copy is sorta...I've left a lot of the legal language out...file names are henrylittlejohn.pdf and hrynbcoa.pdf ......Char<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>
Here is part of the deed I'm refering to...I'll finish and put it in the archive...there if I recall correctly is several records in this file, it's pretty big...most of the old deeds were lease and releases...so it looks like two deeds to the same parties...I don't know why they did that...has somthing to do I'm sure with the old English laws...
But Capt Henry Coate, if I recall had wives named, Elizabeth and Polly Long, they were sisters...this Henry's wife's name is Mary and it shows Little John as an adjoining land owner on Scotch Creek to his land....now, if you recall Capt Henry Coate lived down by the Saluda River next to Benjamin Long...you will also recall in Marmaduke Coate's plat map of the villate of Newberry, shown in Pope's history, that Marmaduke shows a Henry Coates and a Henry Coate, because Marm spelled the names differently and as a surveyor he would be careful of detail, it appeared to me that there were two Henry's in Newberry Village both owning land...so I'm just saying we need to be careful, about lumping all these folks together just because they have the same first name...they may not be the same person....and indeed, I think these are two different Henrys....
This indenture made the ? 6 or 16 day of October in the Nineteenth year of American Independence and in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven Hundred and Ninety four between Henry Coate of Newberry County Ninety District and state of South Carolina and Mary his wife of the one part and Francis Alkin of the county aforesaid of the other part. Witnesseth that the said Henry Coate and Mary his wife for and in consideration of the sum of fifteen pounds good and lawfull money of the state aforesaid ? paid by the aforesaid Francis AAlkin the receipt thereof whereby acknowledged, hath granted bargained and sold and by these present doth bargain sell alien eliease ? confirm unto the said Francis Alkins by ? of a bargain and sale to him thereof made for and whole land by indenture of sale bearing date ? day next before the day of the ? these presents and by force of the ? being ? into possessed and to his heirs and assigns for ever a plantation or tract of land containing fifty seven acres situated, lying and being in the county aforesaid on the waters of Scotch Creek a branch of Bush River bounding by lines ? W and NW by Benjamin Alkins land, NW and NE by Francis Alkins, NE by Josiah Scotts, SE by William Jinkins, NW by Little John Coats having said shape ? and marks as in ? by a plat unto the grant thereof is annexed which said ? dated the thirteenth day of October one thousand seven hundrend and ninety three and ? by his Excellency William ? in and ? S. Carolinas and the great seal of the same hereunto affixed to have and to hold unto the said Francis Alkins the said plantation or tract of land containing fifty seven acres as aforesaid with ??, rents, issues and profits thereof and ? and singular the premises ??
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----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Bright
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 5:13 PM
To: coats(a)lawyer4u.com
Subject: COATES
Hi
I just listed a fabulous old newspaper article from a Philly newspaper in
1912 on the COATES family. Great pics too. If you want to take a look go to
Ebay.com; Click on Search;Click on By Item Number and enter 534448703
Questions? email me
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I do think that John Coate was the son of Henry Coate and the deeds are recorded back to back...but they don't refer to him as Little John Coate....I think we need to be careful with these titles...there is a deed that does refer to Little John Coate as an adjoining land owner to a Henry Coate...but that is the only reference to a *Little* John Coate...why would they refer to a *Little* John Coate and then later just John Coate...I think they could be two different people...then you go to Edgefield I think it was and some deeds refer to him as Little John, that's from memory...that just seems strange to me...so I think we need to be careful...lumping all these folks together without more info...
The same applies to *Big* John Coate, there are deeds that refer to *Big* John Coate, there are also deeds that don't...and the will that has been attributed to *Big* doesn't refer to him as *Big* John Coate...
I think we need to be careful in lumping everyone together...it just seems strange that sometimes they use Big and Little and yet other times they don't...that doesn't seem to fit for me...
Happy New Year, btw...
Char
----- Original Message -----
From: Etta Cooper
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 5:09 PM
To: bencoate(a)jps.net; coats(a)hotmail.com; COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: "LittleJohn" Coate connect to Henry & Esther Willson Coate
Coates Listers:
As per quote in E-Mail dated 30 Dec 2000, from Linda Dudick and her assessment of data she found about "LittleJohn" and probable father Henry.
"Lastly, when father Henry dies, he does not will or deed out his 200 acres that he purchased in 1765. However, this same parcel of land is sold by Little John in 1792 proving the descent from my point of view. More specifically, Henry Coate purchases 200 acres from John Brooks on July 29, 1765. It was on Scotts Creek with no adjacent families. John Brooks had purchased it on Aug 26,1757. It consisted of some buildings and pasture lands. Then, (Little) John Coate and his wife Susannah sell to Peter Buffington 200 acres on Nov. 14, 1792. The land was on Scotts Creek, and was originally purchased by John Brooks on Sep. 19, 1758 (when the transaction was completed). The filing of the deeds clinches it. Henry's purchase of 1765 was not filed until 1792 (years after Henry's death) and is filed directly before this John sells the same property to Peter Buffington according to one set of SC deed records. "
Will be back to correct data I keyed in wrong about Mary Coate, 1st wife
of Marmaduke "Duke" when there is time. I'm still losing letters being composed (hit the wrong key) and can never find them again. The ole blood pressure goes up and I have to take a break.
My documentation will be when I can find my data after changing from FTM to Family Origins and going to the library again.
Happy hunting to all and a prosperous 2001.
Etta Cooper<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>
----- Original Message -----
From: BettyHP(a)aol.com
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 7:55 PM
To: coats(a)hotmail.com
Subject: Coats
Charlotte, just ran across this and if you are like me you save little
tidbits that might mean something some day even though today they really
don't fit anywhere-
Washington D. COATS
HISTORY OF HICKORY, POLK, CEDAR, DADE AND BARTON COUNTIES, MISSOURI 1889,
published by Goodspeed, Pgs. 634, 635--Polk County Biographies Section
Washington D. Coats, a prominent tiller of the soil of Jackson Township, who
resides half a mile from Sharon Station, was born in Henry County, Tenn.,
September 30, 1825, emigrating to Missouri with his parents in the fall of
1833, and settling in what is now Polk county. He is the son of Benjamin and
Elizabeth (Coats) Coats (cousins), both natives of Tennessee, and born in
17795 and 1800 respectively. They were married about 1819, and afterward
moved to West Tennessee, where they remained until 1833, when they settled in
what is now Polk County, Mo. He followed farming in that county, and in 1859
took a herd of cattle of about fifty head to California. He died in that
State in 1862. The mother died on the old home place June 30, 1870. They were
the parents of eight children, four now living. Washington D. Coats attained
his growth in Polk County, and was married in that county in 1849, to Miss
Matilda Rook, a native of Tennessee, born in 1832, and who came to Missouri
with her parents at an early age. After marriage Mr. Coats followed
agricultural pursuits until the breaking out of the war, when he enlisted in
Company H, Phelps' Regiment Missouri Infantry Volunteers, and served six
months, and was mustered out in May, 1862. During his time of service he was
in the battle of Pea Ridge. He enlisted in the Enrolled Militia, Company I,
in 1862, serving six months, at which time the company was disbanded. He
afterward served four months under Lieut. Roberts at Bolivar. After the war
he returned home and engaged in farming. He is post commander of Phil.
Sheridan Post No. 398, G. A. R. and is also a member of the Baptist Church.
To his marriage were born twelve children: Newton Marion, William Henry,
Thomas B., James A.; Rebecca E., now Mrs. Neil; Mary, now Mrs. Patterson;
Frantz S., Abraham L., John W., Edward S.; Sarah E., now Mrs. Slatter; and
Charley C. Mrs. Coats is also a member of the Baptist Church. Mr. Coats is
well-read man, and takes great interest in educational matters. The paternal
grandfather of our subject, Benjamin W. Coats, was born in Virginia, and died
in Tennessee about 1840. His wife died about 1847. The maternal grandfather
was probably born in Virginia, and died in Tennessee about 1835, and his wife
in 1840.
I enjoy hearing from you and hope to get to see you when we come to
California next June to see our grandson Michael graduate from highschool. I
still have some "Coats" info that I copied in South Caroline--and am ashamed
that I have had it so long. I will try to get that off in the New Year!!
I know this was a special Christmas for you with that little
granddaughter--there is nothing like being a grandmother in my opinion!! We
had all eight of ours here for the holidays.
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Children of Marmaduke and Nancy:
vi. Jim? Coate, b abt 1828, SC---no further data
vii Andrew Jackson Coate, b abt 1830, SC---no further data
viii Simeon Marmaduke Coate, b 8 Feb 1833, SC; d 4 Jul 1874,
AL-m 8 Jan 1857
Jennett C. Cave, b 1838 descendants
ix Susan Coate, b abt 1838, SC--no further data
x Jesse (Jessay Coates) Lovelace Coate, b 1840 Grove Hill,
Clarke Co, AL, d 1879
Rains Co, TX (killed) m Aug 1868 AR to widow Isabel
Clampett EVANS Bunyard
b 1840 TN (poss AR), d 1904 South McAlester, Pittsburg
Co, OK my ancestors
4 children--2 sons and 2 daughters.
x. Jesse Loveless Coate (aka Jessay Coates), b 1840 Grove Hill,
Clarke Co, AL, d 1879 Rains Co, TX (killed-perpertrater known and
imprisoned)
m abt 1868 (widow) Isabel Clampett EVANS (as per death cetificate for
Charles Abbott,
second son of Jesse and Isabel.), b 5 Aug 1840 (poss TX, could be AR),
d 8 Dec 1904 South McAlester, Pittsburg Co, OK (buried same place)
Isabel m (1) a Bunyard, abt 1860, she had a daughter (1870 Census for
Arkansas
Co, AR) Mary Ann Bunyard, (age 9 in Census) .
i. Henry "Harry" Milton Coate, b Aug 1869, Arkansas Co, AR, died abt
1903 (or shortly
thereafter) in the Philipines (Military-Philipine Insurrection,
Philipines Islands) As far
as known no wife or children. (He sent a sea shell broach and
necklace to his brother's
new wife). After his death his effects were sent to his brother,
Charles Abbott
Coate, (my grandfather).
ii. Charles Abbott Coate, b 26 Feb 1871 Carterville, Arkansas Co, AR; d
5 Nov 1954
Buckeye(Hassyampa), Maricopa Co, AZ. m Matilda "Tilda/Mae" Frances
Woolsey
1 Jan 1901 Hackett City, Sebastian Co, AR. Matilda (called Frances
by Charles,
"Tilda" by her parents and siblings, and Mae by her inlaws) b 19
Nov 1882 Hancock,
Pulaski Co, MO, d 19 Mar 1960 Phoenix, Maricopa Co, AZ. Marriage
Records
for Sebastian Co, AR. eleven children
Between 1871 and 1878/9, Jesse and wife Isabel and children moved to Rains
Co, TX. In
between AR and TX were trips to AL and possibly MS. The census doesn't make
it clear
to me exactly where his daughters were born. Second cousin Wilburn Wilson
found most
of this data and shared with me. I went behind him and verified for myself.
iii. Lydia O(hard to read) Coats, b abt 1873 AL? d abt 1950
Carrolton, Dallas Co, TX,
m 12 May 1889 Emory, Rains Co, TX to John M. Pickens, b abt 1870
TX? nothing
further known. (I've seen a photo of her).
iv. Lorena Isabel "Lora" Coats, b 15 Apr 1879 MS?, d 26 Jul 1918,
Stringtown, Atoka
OK, m 6 Mar 1898 in Emory, Rains Co, TX to Samuel Thomas Wilson,
b 14 Feb 1871
TX, and d 10 Feb 1952 in Stringtown, Atoka Co, OK. Rain Co, TX
Marriage Records
Book 1, Vol 1, pg 276 9 children,
Both of Jesse Loveless's daughter went by Coats as well as his wife. The
two sons used
Coate. Isabel Clampett EVANS Bunyard Coate's dau Mary Ann Bunyard m a
Rivers in
Rains Co., TX and I am in contact with the family. Trying to share data.
Etta Cooper
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Hello, fellow researchers:
Here is some of my data. I have three of Marmaduke's lines back into
England. Assuming "LittleJohn" is son of Henry and Esther Willson Coate as
we believe.
1. Marmaduke "Duke" COATE, (son of "LittleJohn" COATE & Susannah ENNIS), b
abt 1789 Newberry Dist., SC, d aft 1860 Grove Hill, Clarke
Co, AL. He married (1) Mary Coate b 1816 Edgefield Co. SC., dau of
James Coate, purported to be Marmaduke's 1st cousin.
Mary born abt 1790 Edgefield Co, SC, d abt 1828 Edgefield Co, SC..
He married (2) Nancy ROTTON abt 1827 Edgefield Co, SC, (possibly dau of John
ROTTON and Mary GREEN) b abt 1802 Edgefield Co, SC and d bef 1860 Census,
Grove Hill, Clarke Co, AL
Children of Marmaduke and Mary:
i. Mary Elizabeth Coate, b abt 1819, Edgefield Co, SC; d abt 1862 SC, m
1843 John Toland, b 1813. descendants
ii John Scott Coate, b abt 1820--no further data
iii William Futch Coate, b abt 1822--no further data
iv James Henry Coate, b 1825---no further data
v Burrell "Burr" Johnson Coate, b 12 Aug 1827, Newberry, SC; d abt
1910 Clarke Co, AL, m 20 Mar 1856 AL to Mary Caroline
Vaughn b 1835 AL descendants
data given to me by descendants of Marmaduke and Mary
Children of Marmaduke and Nancy:
vi. Jim? Coate, b abt 1828, SC---no further data
vii Andrew Jackson Coate, b abt 1830, SC---no further data
viii Simeon Marmaduke Coate, b 8 Feb 1833, SC; d 4 Jul 1874, AL-m 8 Jan
1857 Jennett C. Cave, b 1838 descendants
ix Susan Coate, b abt 1838, SC--no further data
x Jesse (Jessay Coates) Lovelace Coate, b 1840 Grove Hill, Clarke
Co, AL, d 1879 Rains Co, TX (killed) m Aug 1868
AR to widow Isabel Clampett EVANS Bunyard, b 1840 TN (poss AR),
d 1904 South McAlester, Pittsburg Co, OK my ancestors
4 children--2 sons and 2 daughters.
Any further additions and corrections welcome.
Etta Cooper
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FYI....Char
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary & Judy Yandle
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 1:16 PM
To: GACOLUMB-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [GACOLUMB] church records
Roger, I am a church secretary for a Methodist church here in NC. We are in
our 4th century and still have church records from the 1700 at the church.
Depending on what denomination it is most likely the church records are
maintained "on campus" at the church. Have you contacted the church.
The Methodist and Episcopal churches usually keep records on a district
level as well.
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