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Just in case anyone wants to obtain the military records or pension
files for these soldiers that were listed on the picture website, fill
out an NATF 80 form. If you want the miltary file and pension file you
have to fill out two separate NATF 80 forms. Cost for copies is $10
http://www.outfitters.com/illinois/history/civil/natf.html
email them and they will send you the forms you request.
Anne Mitchell
great granddaughter of Oscar Coates
Photo ID Comments
RG98S-CWP58.19 Wartime bust image of Col.
James H. Coates, 11th Regt., Illinois Vol. Inf.
RG98S-CWP69.83 Seated wartime image of Sgt. Jefferson Coates, Co. H, 7th
Regt., Wisconsin Vol. Inf. Sgt. Coates lost both eyes at Gettysburg.
Medal of Honor for gallantry at Gettysburg, July 1, 1863.
RG127S-DCC.613 A three-quarter standing view of Col. Edwin Morton
Coates, 7th Regt., U.S. Inf., c. 1893.
RG98S-CWP 181.61 2/3 sitting wartime image of Sgt. Jefferson Coates, Co.
H, 7th Regt., Wisc. Vol. Inf.
RG526S-NYSAG.169 A three-quarter standing view of Levant Coats Dorvan,
Co.G, 8th Regt., N.Y.S. Vol. Heavy Arty.
RG526S-NYSAG.169 A three-quarter standing view of Levant Coats Dorvan, Co.G,
8th Regt., N.Y.S. Vol. Heavy Arty.
>From: MOJO-SHAMAN(a)webtv.net (mojo shaman)
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: civil war pictures
>Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:42:59 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Here is a website I found that allows you to order pictures of civil
>war soldiers. There are pictures of 4 Coates'.
>
>http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/photoDB.html
>
>Anne Mitchell
>
>
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Keywords: "COATES" 4 records found
Photo ID Comments
RG98S-CWP58.19 Wartime bust image of Col. James H. Coates, 11th Regt.,
Illinois Vol. Inf.
RG98S-CWP69.83 Seated wartime image of Sgt. Jefferson Coates, Co. H, 7th
Regt., Wisconsin Vol. Inf. Sgt. Coates lost both eyes at Gettysburg. Medal
of Honor for gallantry at Gettysburg, July 1, 1863.
RG127S-DCC.613 A three-quarter standing view of Col. Edwin Morton Coates,
7th Regt., U.S. Inf., c. 1893.
RG98S-CWP 181.61 2/3 sitting wartime image of Sgt. Jefferson Coates, Co. H,
7th Regt., Wisc. Vol. Inf.
>From: MOJO-SHAMAN(a)webtv.net (mojo shaman)
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: civil war pictures
>Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:42:59 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Here is a website I found that allows you to order pictures of civil
>war soldiers. There are pictures of 4 Coates'.
>
>http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/photoDB.html
>
>Anne Mitchell
>
>
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>From: "grampajoec" <grampajoec(a)lynchburg.net>
>To: <coats(a)hotmail.com>
>Subject: Fw: [NCROOTS-L] Re: Dying Without A Will in 1837?
>Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:47:50 -0400
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sue (by way of ncgen(a)mindspring.com (Elizabeth Harris))
><canova(a)tstar.net>
>To: NCROOTS-L(a)rootsweb.com <NCROOTS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 8:02 AM
>Subject: [NCROOTS-L] Re: Dying Without A Will in 1837?
>
>
> >Hello Marion,
> >I quote from "North Carolina Research" by Helen Leary
> >"The settlement of estates often included two procedures specifically
> >concerning the widow, namely the allotment of year's provision (taken out
> >of the personal property)
> >and dower ( taken out of the land). ...a widow was entitled to request a
> >formal allotment out of the estate, prior to the debts being paid.....
> >In "The North Carolina Justice" -
> >If any person shall die intestate, his widow shall be entitled to dower,
> >consisting of one third part of all the lands, tenements and
>hereditaments
> >of which he died seized
> >and possessed..
> >
> >The administrator of an intestate person by right was the next of kin,
> >usually the surviving spouse or the eldest son who was still living
>within
> >the court's geographic
> >jurisdiction. The next of kin might relinquish the right to another
>party,
> >as when a young widow named a brother or brother in law to take her
>place.
> >But, Authorities could
> >appoint any sober and discreet person in the absence of other qualified
> >claimants. and, if the estate were heavily indebted, the greatest
>creditor
> >might qualify.
> >
> >In the State of North Carolina children were considered minors until
>their
> >21st birthday and were able to choose their guardians when they reached
>the
> >age of fourteen.
> >
> >Now, I hope that helps you some. But, if not I would write for the
>"estate
> >packet" for the deceased Roycroft. Write to the NC State Archives and do
> >not ask for the will,
> >because there isn't one. Ask for all the estate papers for the person and
> >give the approximate date of time, if you do not know it, and the county
> >where the death took
> >place.
> >It will cost you $8.00 and that should cover the cost of the copies,
>unless
> >there are a lot. If so they will bill you for extras.
> >You can send the check with your request, if you are in a hurry but, do
>not
> >send more than $8.00. They will return the check and hold things up.
> >Don't go into a long spiel about things just give the facts and dates.
> >
> >Did he own land? If so, I can check the deed index for you and tell you
> >which deeds to send for, that should give you the land division.
> >The partitioning of the land and the division of any slaves, considered
> >"real property" at that time will give you the names of the surviving
> >children. If there were
> >grandchildren of a deceased child, then, they will probably be named in
>the
> >division of the estate also.
> > Hope this will help... Sue Ashby, listowner. NCWAKE-L
> >
> >
> >
> >Marion Paterson wrote:
> >>
> >> Can anyone advise what happened to a wife and children when the husband
> >> died without a will in NC about 1837?
> >>
> >> In many states, when the deceased was intestate, the estate was equally
> >> divided among the surviving spouse and children. Sometimes this only
> >> included the 'infant' children of the marriage, which meant whatever
>the
> >> definition of 'infant' was in that state. Sometimes under 18,
>sometimes
> >> under 21.
> >>
> >> I have a copy of a petition of Elizabeth (nee Nichols) ROYCROFT in 1839
> >> petitioning for a year's 'widow' support, and mentioning some 'infant
> >> children' who do not include son Jerome B ROYCROFT, who would have been
> >> about 19 at the time of his father's death, and about 21 at the time of
> >> the petition.
> >>
> >> What was the law when a husband died intestate, leaving wife and both
> >> younger and older children? Have the laws changed in NC since that
> >> time?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Marion Paterson, San Diego <maripat2(a)san.rr.com>
> >> Rootsweb Donor
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>From: VICKI739(a)aol.com
>To: coats(a)hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: Coates family. Reunion
>Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:58:41 EDT
>
>Hi Everyone,
> I have been following the many e-mails on the Coates line for a while
>now
>and would have loved to be able to go to this family reunion. I do not
>know
>where my line begins, but was wondering if anyone could be of any help in
>where one would start to line up a family line beyond my parents and
>grandparents. All of these people have been deceased for many years and
>they
>never gave much family info when alive either. To anyone who can give
>suggestions, it would be very much appreciated. Charlotte - I find your
>e-mail writings very interesting and informative. Thanks for all the work
>you do on family lineage. I think it is great that someone (you, in this
>instance) knows so much on it. Have a great summer all and hope everyone
>has
>a great time at the family reunion. Maybe someone could give a post as to
>how it went and if anyone found new ties to more family members. Have a
>great day/night all!!! Thanks so much, V. COATES
>
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First of all, I'd be leary of assuming that your William Coates is
the one who immigrated through Ellis Island as there are many
upwards of 30 William Coates in the 1700 and 1800's living in the
US. You need specific data that lines up just on him to verify
it. For a guess --- and its only a guess, Captain Henry Coate,
son of "Little" John Coate of Newberry, SC had a son named William
Henry Coates in 1822 in Newberry, SC. Your William Henry, Sr.
could be a son of his or a son of one of his brothers by name, and
timing and migration patterns of the Coates that ended up in Iowa
and MO. You can at least start hunting for the grandsons of
Captain Henry C. Coate to prove or disprove the theory. You can
find info on Captain Henry C. Coate on my homepage at
www.ancestrees.com . Hope this helps.
At 12:26 AM 7/29/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I know that a William Coates immigrated to US through Ellis Island
>-- my aunt
>saw his name on the commemorative wall. However, having great
>difficulty
>connecting my line. Here's what I have:
>
>1. William Henry Coates (Sr.) b in Iowa, m Margaret Ann Clutter b
>Iowa. They
>had children: Emma, Belle, Jim, William Henry.
>
>2. William Henry Coates (Jr) b 11-30-1877 in Rich Hill, MO, m
>Clara Bell
>Jones Richiet in 1898. Appeared on the 1900 census in Iola
>Township, Allen
>Co., KS. He d Rich Hill, MO. He lived in Blackwell, OK, where he
>ran a
>gambling hall and was a bootlegger. They had children: William
>Lewis, Gladys
>Clarette, Oscar Cleo, Ida Lola, Evelyn Magdalene.
>
>Can anyone help me fill in the gap? Thanks!
LINDA COATE DUDICK, Columbus, Ohio:
LDudick(a)ancestrees.com
note my new site address: http://www.ancestrees.com
FYI...Char
----- Original Message -----
From: Cary & Jeannie Japp <cjapp(a)humboldt1.com>
To: 'John GrosVenor' <johng(a)televar.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 1999 4:18 PM
Subject: attachments on family info
Hello,
I realize you are not home, but email can be checked anytime. Thank
goodness.
My grandmother is Cleo Wathen's half sister. I recently put the cousin you
spoke of into my Family tree program. She is a descendant of Cleo's daughter
Maryann?
Do you have all of the paperwork on the California Indian enrollees? I was
hoping to find out some more info on Leonidas Duncan's mother. Her name is
Mary Fleming, half Indian. Her father's name is Stephen Fleming, and I
believe that he is the "Indian scout " talked about in "Genocide and
Vendetta".
A lady who was sharing info with me from Irene Stapp gave me the last name
of Judith McCatchmahach. I am not sure where she found it.
Also, have you done much research on Nancy Jane Posey? I have seen claims
that she is a half sister to Martha Elizabeth Coates, Hiram David Willburn's
wife. This Hiram David is James St Clair's brother. Nancy Jane Posey's
father was named Andrew Jackson Posey, and her mother was full blooded
Indian.
I am sending attachments of Nathaniel Duncan (Ben Hall's ancestor), and the
photo of James St Clair and Judith. I am also sending a picture of what is
believed to be Edward Willburn, James St Clair willburn's father. This photo
was found behind some wall paper in his old house located near Hetten
Valley. Let me know if they don't go through.
Sincerely,
Jeannie
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Subject: My coates family line
From: "Shane Korthuis" mailto:shanekorthui@earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:46:18 -0000
Greetings Coates researchers. I have been reading the email list for some time now and I was hoping someone out there might be able to help me find some of my family. The farthest back I can go is my great grandfather Ernest Arthur Coates b. 1891 in Kingston Ontario and d. 1923 or 1924 in Toronto. He married Emily O'Brien (b.1885 in Toronto) in 1918 also in Toronto. His son, William Joseph Coates is my grandfather who married Rita Mae Smith. They had several children, William, Don, Steve, Sharon and my father James. My name is Leana, I have one full blooded brother, Daryl. We would love to find out if there is any other family members out there since we don't know many of the Coates relatives. Thanks.
e Coates relatives. =
Thanks.
I know that a William Coates immigrated to US through Ellis Island -- my aunt
saw his name on the commemorative wall. However, having great difficulty
connecting my line. Here's what I have:
1. William Henry Coates (Sr.) b in Iowa, m Margaret Ann Clutter b Iowa. They
had children: Emma, Belle, Jim, William Henry.
2. William Henry Coates (Jr) b 11-30-1877 in Rich Hill, MO, m Clara Bell
Jones Richiet in 1898. Appeared on the 1900 census in Iola Township, Allen
Co., KS. He d Rich Hill, MO. He lived in Blackwell, OK, where he ran a
gambling hall and was a bootlegger. They had children: William Lewis, Gladys
Clarette, Oscar Cleo, Ida Lola, Evelyn Magdalene.
Can anyone help me fill in the gap? Thanks!
Camden district covered a very large area...when I see Charleston makes me
wonder if it might be William Coats in the Charleston area, I think he had
land on Polk Swamp...I do believe in Jack's book he ties this William to his
info ...from what I can tell...but I don't think we have any proof as to who
this is yet...but yes, it appears some researchers have tried to tie this
William with the NC William as well...but there is no documentation of such
yet...I had thought since William married to Francis died in 1784, it might
be possible he died in the Revolution...what that ran from about 1776 to
1786 or somewhere around there?
I think the William that leaves NC disappears from the records in NC about
1762 or so....Jonathan, I'm not clear on...there is some info that a
Jonathan deed in SC was really John and it's supposed to have been amended
to read John...but I haven't looked at the original records yet, so this is
second hand knowledge ....
As to the William, inspector of boats, there are several Williams in the
Charleston area, some worked in the customs houses etc...more than likely
this is a William along the coast and might be one of the Williams in the
Charleston area...
Char
>From: larcoa(a)aspermont.esc14.net (Larry D. Hamilton Coats)
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Coates/Coats Loyalist soldiers, Rev. War.
>Date: 28 Jul 1999 16:23:43 EDT
>
>I recently found this and, not knowing if it would be of any use,
>decided to post the whole thing and then ask a question or two:
>
>From: LOYALISTS IN THE SOUTHERN CAMPAIGN OF THE REV. WAR by MJ Clark
>
>p. 567. 13 Jul 1779, Loyalist militia commission given to
>Lt.________Coates(in GA?)
>
>p. 117 Pvt. Wm Coates appears on the payroll of Col. Robert English's
>Regiment(1st Regt. of Camden Militia), Co. of Abraham Cook, for 43 days
>pay from 1 Aug-12 Sept 1781, Charleston, SC. To be paid 15 Dec 1781.
>
>p. 557. Wm Coates, Inspector of Boats, salary up to the 7th. L50.
>
>p. 162. Wm Coats, Pvt, of Col. John Phillips' Regiment, Jackson's Creek
>Militia, Camden Dist., SC, assigned to Capt. Adam Thomson's co.. Served
>for 61 days. 1 June-31 Jul 1781.
>
>p. 164. Wm Coats, Pvt, of Col. John Phillips' Regiment, Jackson's Creek
>Militia, Camden Dist. SC, assigned to Capt. David Sanders' Co.(served
>with Lord Rawdon from Charleston to Ninety-Six and back to Orangeburgh).
>2 mo., 61 days. Jun-Jul 1781.
>
>p. 354. Jonathon Coats listed in Col. Samuel Campbell's Regiment, NC
>Militia. 129 days. 24 Nov 1781-1 Apr 1782.
>
>Now, it would seem to me that the Wm Coat(e)s who served in Phillip's
>Regt., might very well be identical with Wm Coates(1735-d. 1783 Camden
>Dist.)who married Frances/Mary Frances______. However, since Wm Coats of
>Rowan Co. NC seems to vanish from that county after 1778, it is at least
>possible that one of the entries might apply to him(judging from the
>dates). Wm Coats, the Inspector of Boats....I don't have any idea who he
>might be. Nor do I have a clue about Jonathon Coats of the loyalist NC
>militia.
>
>If anyone has any ideas, feel free to respond.
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Larry D. Hamilton Coats
>P.O. Box 823
>Aspermont, TX 79502
>(940)989-3489
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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You'll find them here:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/cen_m.htm#MO
This is the table of contents for the images of all states:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/cen_img.htm
They aren't up yet...should be soon though...
I just got the CDs today in the mail...haven't looked at them yet...but will
let you know...
Char
>From: LEELEE114(a)aol.com
>To: Coats(a)hotmail.com
>Subject: Fwd: Callaway County Census CD completed
>Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:40:05 EDT
>
>Char.....Do you know if this accessible through the net yet? (and at what
>address?)
>Thanks, Cuz Linda
><< message3.txt >>
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I recently found this and, not knowing if it would be of any use,
decided to post the whole thing and then ask a question or two:
From: LOYALISTS IN THE SOUTHERN CAMPAIGN OF THE REV. WAR by MJ Clark
p. 567. 13 Jul 1779, Loyalist militia commission given to
Lt.________Coates(in GA?)
p. 117 Pvt. Wm Coates appears on the payroll of Col. Robert English's
Regiment(1st Regt. of Camden Militia), Co. of Abraham Cook, for 43 days
pay from 1 Aug-12 Sept 1781, Charleston, SC. To be paid 15 Dec 1781.
p. 557. Wm Coates, Inspector of Boats, salary up to the 7th. L50.
p. 162. Wm Coats, Pvt, of Col. John Phillips' Regiment, Jackson's Creek
Militia, Camden Dist., SC, assigned to Capt. Adam Thomson's co.. Served
for 61 days. 1 June-31 Jul 1781.
p. 164. Wm Coats, Pvt, of Col. John Phillips' Regiment, Jackson's Creek
Militia, Camden Dist. SC, assigned to Capt. David Sanders' Co.(served
with Lord Rawdon from Charleston to Ninety-Six and back to Orangeburgh).
2 mo., 61 days. Jun-Jul 1781.
p. 354. Jonathon Coats listed in Col. Samuel Campbell's Regiment, NC
Militia. 129 days. 24 Nov 1781-1 Apr 1782.
Now, it would seem to me that the Wm Coat(e)s who served in Phillip's
Regt., might very well be identical with Wm Coates(1735-d. 1783 Camden
Dist.)who married Frances/Mary Frances______. However, since Wm Coats of
Rowan Co. NC seems to vanish from that county after 1778, it is at least
possible that one of the entries might apply to him(judging from the
dates). Wm Coats, the Inspector of Boats....I don't have any idea who he
might be. Nor do I have a clue about Jonathon Coats of the loyalist NC
militia.
If anyone has any ideas, feel free to respond.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Larry D. Hamilton Coats
P.O. Box 823
Aspermont, TX 79502
(940)989-3489
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
FYI...Char
>From: "grampajoec" <grampajoec(a)lynchburg.net>
>To: "Charlotte ~" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Coates family. Reunion
>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:36:49 -0400
>
>Char- the Coates Reunion 1999 will be held in the Fellowship Building of
>the
>Glendale Baptist Church, Clifton/Glendale Road, Glendale, SC, Spartanburg
>County on SATURDAY, 28TH OF AUGUST.
>
>Lunch begins at noon. Tea. Lemonade, soft drinks, paper plates, flatware,
>cups and napkins will be on hand. Just bring your best cooking for all to
>enjoy.
>
>The building had a full kitchen, has air conditioning and a room for 500
>Coates.Coats to be seated.
>
>You can get there by taking Fernwood-Glendale Road from East Main
>treet( Hwy 29N) or by taking County Club Road from County Pine Street( Hwy
>176E) to Clifton/Glendale Road; at the bridge turn left..
>
>For further info you can call Paul D. (Donnie) Ward and Joyce 864- 585-
>5498
>or
>864- 585-0970..
>
>This is a good one to attend; a lot of friendly people all looking for "
>cousins"..
>Be there.... Grampajoec
>
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Well, let's see...first child after Mother's parent, first daughter Mary and
I do believe Nancy's mother was named Mary and not Experience...because of
the deed for Sylvester I found in NC calls her Mary not Experience...now I
suppose he could have been married a *few* times...in fact the DAR papers
states some of the later children could be by his last marriage to an
Ann...so first daughter as Nancy's mother could be...
And then alternate...let's see...so James would be after William's
father...problem is, some of the probate records in MO show Rev William as a
jr., which indicates his father may have been named William...and James in
MO I'm pretty sure is his brother, Marshall Smith Coats, James' son, is
about the same age as Rev Williams kids...in fact Marshall and William, jr.,
I believe are involved in William McLaughlin's estate in MO, then William
marries Cena Callaway, William McLauglin's wife...also found a record where
Marshall S. Coats is an administrator for L.B. Coats estate in 1863...so it
seems to me James is more likely Rev William's brother...
Now if James is Nancy's father...I just don't think this would be I'm pretty
sure Sylvester is her father ...but not sure of those DAR papers since, I
found that deed in NC showing her mother as Mary...
Father's parent's for second children, Rachel and William...or
grandparent's? Just don't know of any Rachel/William combos, except William
Coats and Rachel Ann Budd and we have no record of her...Big John's wife's
names was Rachel...but those are the only two...I believe...and I don't see
any James and Mary combos except, James who goes to MO, whose wife was named
Mary, and then there is that will in Newberry for James and Mary, but it's
the same date as the James and Rebekah...so my thinking is that it's either
an error in names i.e. Mary listed instead of Rabekah or something...but I
haven't gotten that checked out yet...
Char
>From: DRowe85608(a)aol.com
>To: coats(a)hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: Naming patterns/Rev William Coats
>Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:18:41 EDT
>
>I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into this but I think oftentimes, the
>Quakers named the first child after the Mother's parent and then
>alternated.
>Quakers were very egalitarian and there was great equality between the
>sexes.
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Just looking over some info this morning, trying to get a handle on Rev Will
in TN:
Rev William's first four children in order of birth were: Mary, James,
Rachel, William...these were the first four children here...otherwise this
may get too long for an email...<g>...
These are some of the naming patterns:
In 18th & 19th Century Britain families generally tended to name their
children in a specific pattern as follows:
Males
First-born Son - father's father
Second-born Son - mother's father
Third-born Son - father
Fourth-born Son - father's eldest brother
Fifth-born Son - father's 2nd oldest brother or mother's oldest brother
Females
First-born Daughter - mother's mother
Second-born Daughter - father's mother
Third-born Daughter - mother
Fourth-born Daughter - mother's eldest sister
Fifth-born Daughter - mother's 2nd oldest sister or father's oldest sister
http://www.ourheritage.tierranet.com/naming-patterns.html
This is the same naming pattern that Quaker Corner shows
http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/index.htm
Theory: Mother's mother for first daughter: Mary, could be I found the
deed in Rowan County NC for Sylvester Baker, Nancy's father and in the
transcription it says, sylvester's wife's name was Mary...
Father's father for first son: James, well, if this is true no idea who
this is...but there is in the Newberry Court Records another James and Mary
Coats...however, the death date is the same a James and Rebekah Coats, the
ones on Bush River, Beaverdam Creek...haven't check that record yet...
Mother's Father for second son: William, well we know Nancy's father was
Sylvester...so this then does not follow...
Father's mother for second daughter: Rachel, since were not sure who Rev
Will's parents are, this is uncertain...
Among Quakers in Colonial Pennsylvania and Delaware, babies went
through a ritual called nomination. An infant's name was carefully
selected by the parents, certified by friends, witnessed by neighbors, and
then entered in the register of the meeting. First-born children were named
after grandparents, honoring maternal and paternal lines evenly, often with
an eldest son named after his mother's father and an eldest daughter after
her father's mother. While this practice was not universal among Quaker
families, it was common in the Delaware Valley.
http://www.intersurf.com/~rcollins/names.html
Now recall that Nancy Baker's family was from MD, I think this is the
Delaware Valley.
First born children after grandparents, maternal or paternal: Mary and
James
Oldest son named after mother's father: James
Oldest daughter named after father's mother: Mary
Well, I don't think James is Nancy's father but Mary and James could be
maternal or paternal grand parents...since we don't know who either of these
are, not sure at this point.
We do know that James was not Nancy's father and we don't know who Rev
Will's mother was if it was Mary...
So it boils down to Mary, James, Rachel and William could be either parents
or grandparents of Rev William and Nancy, on either side...except Nancy's
father who was Sylvester Baker...but then again I supose Sylvester could be
a brother of Nancy, although none of her children are named after
him...hmmmmmm
Char
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>Thanks for the response!
>I have Coates in my family, two lines in this area of Va and I can't make
>the
>connection in them , so I can't start to go to other states yet. But I will
>try
>to remember the names and let you know if I see them in any of my looking.
>I'm looking for Henry Coates d.12 June 1884 m. Elizabeth Woolard in
>Richmond Co
>Va ,son Thomas J. b15 Dec. 1846 m. Va.Beacham. Can't get past Henry nor if
>he
>had brothers or sisters.
>
>Thanks again,
>Wayne Lawson
>
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>From: "Ray_Deb noway" <ray_deb(a)hotmail.com>
>To: donaldh(a)golden.net, loiss(a)zikzak.net, coats(a)lawyer4u.com,
>rosgrah(a)acay.com.au, lizzhamm(a)aol.com, wendybor1(a)hotmail.com,
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>Subject: Coates family.
>Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:48:01 PDT
>
>my family name is coates.i am trying to find details of the family that
>came to australia in 1851 and arrived in 1852 in Port Adelaide
>Australia.there names were john coates aged 52 sarah his wife aged 50 sons
>charles 11 and alfred 8.there was another coates John and he was aged
>20.if
>you have any info on this family please contact me.
>other coates people on the ship were william.josiah,rebecca 2 sarahs and a
>mary.
>
>regards Debra
>
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Hi Susan everything up to Benjamin in Smith County TN is probably good if
you've got documents for it...there is a copy of Benjamin's will in the
Archive at:
http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar
The problem is....lots of guess work beyond TN...VA for a birth place for
Benjamin, that's interesting...which county etc, documentation etc...
There is also an Anna Coats in Smith County TN...in the Baptist Church
Records...hmmmm is that the Anna in Smith County...that's interesting as
well...because I didn't know who she was...but Rev Will had a daughter Anna
and it seemed she would have been to young to have been left in Smith County
TN before they went to MO in 1817...soooo, maybe that is your Anna Coats?
Coats would have been her married name...do you know what he maiden name is?
Char
>From: Skb02(a)aol.com
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: RE:Jeremiah Coates
>Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:16:17 EDT
>
>Boy am I confused! I am fairly new at this and have just started to work
>on
>the coates line. I had left if for later as everyone had done such an
>excellent job of research that I thought I wouldn't have much left to do.
>
>Okay, The only thing I now for sure is that I am looking for the Ancestors
>of
>the following COATES:
>
>Jeremiah b Dec 8, 1805 in Sullivan Co. Tn and d Dec 1, 1879 in Vera Cruz,
>Ozark Co. Missouri. Married 1st Mary Polly McIntosh August 11, 1831 2nd
>Celia ? abt 1870.
>
>Parents of Jeremiah: Benjamin Watts b abt 1772 or 1752 in Va, d June 11,
>1850 Smith Co. Tn mar 1st Elizabeth BROCK b.? d. bef 1815 2nd Anna Unknown
>1815
>
>Parents of Benjamin: William Jr. b abt 1735 or 1754 d. 1784 Camden, S.C.
>mar Frances GREEN
>
>Parents of William Jr: William Coats Sr b abt 1700 or 1710 in England d
>1753
>or 1784 Charles Town N.C. Mar Unknown or Frances GREEN.
>
>Alot of my information has been family history in Douglas County. I know I
>need HELP! I am hoping that some of you might be able to guide me in the
>right direction.
>
>Thanks,
>Susan Bruce
>Springfield, Missouri
>
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Boy am I confused! I am fairly new at this and have just started to work on
the coates line. I had left if for later as everyone had done such an
excellent job of research that I thought I wouldn't have much left to do.
Okay, The only thing I now for sure is that I am looking for the Ancestors of
the following COATES:
Jeremiah b Dec 8, 1805 in Sullivan Co. Tn and d Dec 1, 1879 in Vera Cruz,
Ozark Co. Missouri. Married 1st Mary Polly McIntosh August 11, 1831 2nd
Celia ? abt 1870.
Parents of Jeremiah: Benjamin Watts b abt 1772 or 1752 in Va, d June 11,
1850 Smith Co. Tn mar 1st Elizabeth BROCK b.? d. bef 1815 2nd Anna Unknown
1815
Parents of Benjamin: William Jr. b abt 1735 or 1754 d. 1784 Camden, S.C.
mar Frances GREEN
Parents of William Jr: William Coats Sr b abt 1700 or 1710 in England d 1753
or 1784 Charles Town N.C. Mar Unknown or Frances GREEN.
Alot of my information has been family history in Douglas County. I know I
need HELP! I am hoping that some of you might be able to guide me in the
right direction.
Thanks,
Susan Bruce
Springfield, Missouri