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I sit here in my chair day after day searching for my lost ancestors. It so
happens that I seem to hit brick wall after brick wall. I just want to say
that when the day comes and I can link myself to some Coats line out there,
I hope it is to all the great people on this list. You all are such
wonderful people. Thank you for doing all that you do to find our
relatives.
God Bless You All
Happy New Year !
Shar Coats Baumgardner :)
Because You're Special
I said a prayer for you today
to make your spirits soar,
I prayed for happiness for you,
but then I asked for more.
I asked that God would give you
the courage that you need
to be yourself, to do your best,
to dream and to succeed.
I prayed that God would bless you
with confidence in who you are,
because in God's eyes, as in mine,
you'll always be a star.
I asked for success in your searches
Joy in your finds, and most of all
A tree full of Coat(e)(s) to fill your life
with Light.
Happy New Year
Blessings to you all, guys. I hope the New Year bugs turn out to
be minimal and that tomorrow can be a new day with a great future
for everyone. To all the friends out there, you guys have been so
helpful. Happy New Year!
LINDA COATE DUDICK, Columbus, Ohio:
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Here's my current guess on John, Sr's children, grandchildren of
Gentleman John:
Taking the patterns in the census, he had about 13 children, all
but one of whom is not yet known by name. We are hunting for
children in his family by the following data: Two males, b. before
1775; a male born between 1774 and 1790; four females born before
1790; three males born between 1790 and 1800; two males born
between 1804 and 1810 and one female born before 1811. We know
that John Jr. was the second or third born child from his census
info as an adult. Charlotte Coats Sierks has strongly suggested
that a second of the sons of John Sr. and Catherine was named
Samuel. That is because he was the spokesperson and trustee for
her in the divorce proceedings. I find it to be likely too, as
when Catherine ran away from her abusive husband, it was much more
likely that she'd go live with a child than a neighbor. There is a
Samuel in the Baptist church records that is likely to be this
Samuel. He was born in the 1780's by my estimate. In 1823, he
is in the Bush River Baptist Church Records. His probable wife
Nancy joined on May 13, 1825 and he a month later. Because he
and Nancy both were dismissed by letter on Feb. 10, 1827, I suspect
that they are husband and wife. There are several single females
that join and dismiss in a time period close to them that could be
daughters. Sally Coate joins 2 months after Samuel Coate on Aug
25, 1825. a Caty and Mary get dismissal letters in Aug. and Dec.
of that same year. I suspect that they possibly only moved to a
church closer to them if this Samuel is the son of John Sr. and
Catherine that is assisting Catherine in settling the divorce.
As for the others, there are some Coates that show up in
Laurens Co., SC that need checked for ages to see if they could be
some of his children. A Catherine Coat (p. 222), a John Coats (p.
236) and a Thomas Coats (p. 223) lived in Laurens Co., SC in the
1830 census. Coates' list members have suggested the following
by location and age might be some of the missing children of John
Sr. Coates: James Robert Coate, b. 1786; Gabriel Coats, b. 1800;
Harwell Coats b. between 1775 and 1794 (of Kershaw Co., SC in
1820); Reverend William Coats, b. before 1773. There is also a
James Coats in the 1800 census b. before 1775 who is not accounted
for by the other James' I know of in the area. Determining the
children's names is obviously going to be difficult work.
To make matters more complicated, there were at least 2 Coate
families living in Laurens Co., SC prior to John Cotes Sr. There
was also a Bethsheba Coats living there with 3 daughters in
1790. In the 1800 census there is a John Cotes who was between 26
and 45 years of age. His wife was the same age. They had an
elderly mother living with them, over age 45. They also had one
son under age 10 and 4 daughters under age 10. That is likely the
John Cotes living there in the 1820 census also on page 19. (C-2085)
The last mystery in John's life is about how many wives he
had. If Catherine were the mother of all his children, she would
have been having children for almost a 40 year period, from the
early 1770's through 1810. That is highly unusual and could
suggest he had a first wife before Catherine though her divorce
decree would suggest that she was the mother of all his many
children over a long period of years. Then in John's life after he
moved to Lauren's Co. SC, it also suggests the possibility that he
married another woman because of the following. There is a John
Coats who was received in Laurens Co., SC on 2/15/1823 in Poplar
Springs Baptist Church. Mary Coats was received by experience on
3/20/1830 and John is mentioned with his wife Mary on 11/14/1835 on
letters of dismission. Mary could be an additional wife for this
John Sr. Coats or the wife of the other John Coats living in
Laurens Co., SC in the 1800 and 1820 census.
At 10:24 AM 12/31/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>Linda...do we have an *about* for the dates of birth of his
>kids...and possible names of his children...possible starting
>dates for his kids birthdates would be about 1773? Char
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Linda Dudick <LDudick(a)ancestrees.com>
>To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: [COATES-L] Fwd: War of 1812 Muster Rolls
>Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 07:16:15 -0500
>
>Joe, the only thing we know about him is that he owned 150 acres
>(from memory) in Newberry Co., SC before moving to Laurens Co.,
>SC. His father, Gentleman John, bequeathed him most if not all
>of this land in 1803 on his deathbed. The best guess for timing
>on John Sr.'s birthdate is before 1755, and marriage date being
>before 1772 at this point in time. It's an interesting theory.
>
>
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LINDA COATE DUDICK, Columbus, Ohio:
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Joe, the only thing we know about him is that he owned 150 acres
(from memory) in Newberry Co., SC before moving to Laurens Co.,
SC. His father, Gentleman John, bequeathed him most if not all
of this land in 1803 on his deathbed. The best guess for timing
on John Sr.'s birthdate is before 1755, and marriage date being
before 1772 at this point in time. It's an interesting theory.
At 10:26 AM 12/30/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Hmmm, I'll have to defer to Linda on this one...I'm not sure what
>John, sr's dates are...but I do believe he had lots of kids that
>haven't been named yet...Char
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "grampajoec" <grampajoec(a)lynchburg.net>
>To: "Charlotte CS" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Re: [COATES-L] Fwd: War of 1812 Muster Rolls
>Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 17:23:12 -0500
>
>Char-,the one in Laurens County, SC is the one I'm thinking about.
>As I
>recall John Coats Sr. already had a land grant etc. of good size
>before he
>showed up in Laurens County..... grampajoec
>
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LINDA COATE DUDICK, Columbus, Ohio:
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Some interesting Y2k stories...not for the faint of heart and there is some
pretty rough language here....Char
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Subject: Y2K Tales from the firing line
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:18:31 GMT
Slashdot has a section on the Y2K whatever as it creeps around the
world.
Posts come from an amazing range of folks as usual. One geek is stuck
in
a room with 16 racks of servers making 4 full backups of each server.
Seems MS of Finland advertized jobs for Jan 1, 1900 on a website, GMT
offsets are wildly innacurate in some instances, and internal apps are
failing. No big deal,
but all is not rosy either.
http://slashdot.org/articles/99/12/31/0757254.shtml
Apparently one webcqm photo on the www.countdown2000.com world tour is
showing
32 Dec 1999.
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FYI...Char
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:29:27 -0800
I have been advised that the Rootsquest Server will
be shut down as a precaution due to possible internet problems
related to the Y2K changeover and possible hackers planning to
cause problems and make them appear as being caused by the
Y2K change.
It will therefore be off line from Friday at 4:00 P.M.
MST until noon on Sunday, January 2, 2000.
I wish all a good New Year and will see you in the New Year.
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Linda...do we have an *about* for the dates of birth of his kids...and
possible names of his children...possible starting dates for his kids
birthdates would be about 1773? Char
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From: Linda Dudick <LDudick(a)ancestrees.com>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: [COATES-L] Fwd: War of 1812 Muster Rolls
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 07:16:15 -0500
Joe, the only thing we know about him is that he owned 150 acres
(from memory) in Newberry Co., SC before moving to Laurens Co.,
SC. His father, Gentleman John, bequeathed him most if not all
of this land in 1803 on his deathbed. The best guess for timing
on John Sr.'s birthdate is before 1755, and marriage date being
before 1772 at this point in time. It's an interesting theory.
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There is also a Bathseba Coates, spelling is off here...in Laurens County
about 1790...I'll bet she's related, either a daughter or daughter in law to
John senr....Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: Linda Dudick <LDudick(a)ancestrees.com>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: [COATES-L] Fwd: War of 1812 Muster Rolls
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 07:16:15 -0500
Joe, the only thing we know about him is that he owned 150 acres
(from memory) in Newberry Co., SC before moving to Laurens Co.,
SC. His father, Gentleman John, bequeathed him most if not all
of this land in 1803 on his deathbed. The best guess for timing
on John Sr.'s birthdate is before 1755, and marriage date being
before 1772 at this point in time. It's an interesting theory.
At 10:26 AM 12/30/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Hmmm, I'll have to defer to Linda on this one...I'm not sure what
>John, sr's dates are...but I do believe he had lots of kids that
>haven't been named yet...Char
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "grampajoec" <grampajoec(a)lynchburg.net>
>To: "Charlotte CS" <coats(a)hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Re: [COATES-L] Fwd: War of 1812 Muster Rolls
>Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 17:23:12 -0500
>
>Char-,the one in Laurens County, SC is the one I'm thinking about.
>As I
>recall John Coats Sr. already had a land grant etc. of good size
>before he
>showed up in Laurens County..... grampajoec
>
>
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LINDA COATE DUDICK, Columbus, Ohio:
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And a very special thanks to John Coates in WA who makes this list
possible...
Happy New Year and my resolution is: Finding each and every Coate, Coates,
Coats and variant spellings in the new Century...!!!!
The Aussie's have not had any Y2k problems that I've heard...so that is good
news ...
God Bless....Char
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<< You may think your PC is Y2K compliant, and some
> >> little tests may have
> >> actually affirmed that your hardware is compliant.
> >> You may be surprised that
> >> Windows may still crash unless you do this simple
> >> exercise below. Easy fix,
> >> but something Microsoft seems to have missed in
> >> certifying their software as
> >> y2k compliant.
> >>
> >> - Click on "START"
> >> - Click on "SETTINGS"
> >> - Double click on "Control Panel"
> >> - Double click on "Regional settings" icon (look for
> >> the little world globe)
> >> - Click on the "Date" tab at the top of the page.
> >> (last tab on the top right)
> >> -Where it says "Short Date Sample", look and see if
> >> it shows a 'two digit"
> >> year format ("YY"). Unless you've previously changed
> >> it (and you probably
> >> haven't) -- it will be set incorrectly with just the
> >> two Y's... it needs to
> >> be four! That's because Microsoft made the 2 digits
> >> setting the default
> >> setting for Windows 95, Windows 98, and NT. This
> >> date format selected is the
> >> date that Windows fees "ALL" application software
> >> and will not rollover into
> >> the year 2000. It will roll over to the year 00.
> >> -Click on the button across from "Short Date
> >> Style", and select the option
> >> that shows, "mm/dd/yyyy" or 'm/d/yyyy". (Be sure
> >> your selection has four
> >> y's showing, NOT just "mm/dd/yy" nor "m/d/yy").
> >> -Then click on 'Apply'
> >> - Then click on "OK" at the button.
> >>
> >> Easy enough to fix. However, every "as distributed"
> >> installation of Windows
> >> worldwide is defaulted to fail Y2K rollover.
Thanks Sue Taub:
The more the "minor" Microsoft glitch is exposed, the better off we all are.
Such a minor thing that can cause such havoc. Do it today, now.
Thanks to Char, Linda, etc., all who've made such strides forward in our
Coate/Coat/Coates/Coats family research. Extreme thanks to all for sharing
their data, knowledge and family links.
Happy New Year to all. Peace, hope and joy to all.
Etta Cooper
EttaCoop(a)hotmail.com
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This is the RootsQuest server where the Coates, Coate, Coats Family Digital
Archive is located, my Coats Blueprints and my business pages...just wanted
to let you know in case you try to get in there over the New Year...not sure
how long it will be down, sounds like maybe just late New Years eve and
maybe New Years day ? But I'll check...
Lots of folks are expecting trouble from all spheres, so this is just a
precaution...there are just a bundle of new viruses that have cropped up
lately mostly aimed at MS products...
The latest virus against MS will really do some serious damage...
Char
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From: "Jerry E Dill" <jed(a)rootsquest.com>
To: <RQAnnounce(a)rootsquest.com>
Subject: RQANNOUNCE: Voting Results are In
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:16:11 -0700
The bottom line appears to be that we're damned if we do and we're damned if
we don't. Since the vast majority voted either "yes" or "do what you think
is best," we will be shutting down the servers, but I doubt anyone will even
notice.
Thank you for taking time to consider this matter and for participating with
your comments and votes. We probably won't do this again.
Happy New Year,
*Jerry
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Some of these seem to be repeated twice or more for some reason:
Name Age or DOB Date of Death/ DATE OF IS
Coats, Marshall S. abt 72 20 Nov 1888 21 Nov 1888
Coats, Mrs. J. R. (Bud) abt 37 21 Aug 1894 27 Aug 1894
Coats, Mrs. Artemissia Duncan 6 Jan 1822 24 Jul 1898 25 Jul 1898
Coats, Marshall S. 21 Nov 1888
Garrett, Mrs. George M. Coats abt 50 18 Sept 1907
Coats, Marshall S. abt 72 20 Nov 1888 21 Nov 1888
Coats, Marshall S. 21 Nov 1888 25 Jul 1898
Coats, Mrs. Artemissia Duncan 6 Jan 1822 24 Jul 1898 25 Jul 1898
Coats, Mrs. J. R. (Bud) abt 37 21 Aug 1894 27 Aug 1894
Garrett, Mrs. George M. Coats abt 50 18 Sept 1907 19 Sept 1907
Marshall S. Coats died in 1888 at about 72 years of age...making him born in
1816...that's just about right...hmmm also seems to be a variance in the
date of issue of the obit? 1888 and 1898
Char
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Well speaking of Sion and Solomon here is both names but in SC:
COATS SION FELDER'S BATT'N, ART'Y, SOUTH CAROLINA MIL.
PRIVATE PRIVATE 42 602
COATS SOLOMON FELDER'S BATT'N, ART'Y, SOUTH CAROLINA MIL.
PRIVATE PRIVATE 42 602
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That's interesting that he gave up his rights of administration for his
wife's estate...Wylie must be a relative...hmmmm, any land involved with
these two...maybe something from an estate that Wylie would have an interest
in, where did the property come from that was in Lucy's estate? and
inheritance from someone else maybe....most interesting...Char
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From: "John Coates"<jdcoates(a)aa.net>
Reply-To: jdcoates(a)aa.net
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COATES-L] Sion Coats in Rowan
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:02:51 -800
Here is a bit more about Sion COATS in Rowan Co.,NC. We know he
married Lucy SIMPSON in Rowan in 1802. The bondsman was John
ADAMS, Wylie COATS' brother-in-law. We also know that he gave his rights of
administration in the estate of his wife to Wylie
when Lucy died in 1822.
John Coates
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Not sure this made it to the list...Char
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From: Duroblan(a)aol.com
To: coats(a)hotmail.com
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 20:19:33 EST
While researching my Coates I ran across this site with a line of Coates
someone maybe looking for.
Robbie <A
HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/i/l/Mary--J-Williams/GENE11-0066.
html">Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Page Genealogy Report:
Descendants of George Smedley</A>
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Happy New Year to All.
=============================================
Parents William COATES (1838---1890)& Mary( formerly CLARKSON)
COATES(1838-----1905)(In the process of getting their marriage record
from England.)
==========================================
Their children
=========================
Hannah COATES was born
18 April 1870 in Droylsden , England.
(Droylsden Lane)
- ----------------------------
Violet COATES b 26 Nov 1878(married Alfred Smalley)
Mary Elizabeth COATES b 12 May 1865
(married William WILKINSON)(their daughter married a TURNER)
Emma & Edward COATES(twins)
b 18 March 1862(Alma Lane, Droylsden)
David COATES b 17th Aug 1873
Samuel COATES b 10 April 1876
(Droylsden Lane,Droylsden, Lancashire, England)
===================================
One other note is that Alfred SMALLEY son of Violet(COATES)
& Alfred SMALLEY died Dec 10, 1999 in Wareham,
Massachusetts age 82. This Alfred SMALLEY never married.
He was a World War II Army veteran and received the Purple
Heart.
Most of this family as far as we know was in the USA by the year 1890.
We are interested in these COATES in England(earlier years)
and after they came into the United States.
Any connections?
Helen & William A. TURNER hbturnso(a)ucnsb.net
> Try
> this <http://www.wirksworth.org.uk>http://www.wirksworth.org.uk
> this should get you there, just click on the address in
> this e-mail and it will get you there.
>
>Hi this is Glenn kennedy more Coats at this listing then you can
>believe in England .
LINDA COATE DUDICK, Columbus, Ohio:
LDudick(a)ancestrees.com
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