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One of the first COADs to go to the New World was one Edward Coad ~1776 who went to Edwards County Illinois in 1817. The story is as follows
Migrating from Cornwall (reportedly Truro), England, the Coads were among Edwards County's earliest English settlers in 1817. The 1850 census indicates he was born about 1776-1777. Referred to as "Old Neddy Coad" in George Flower's HISTORY OF THE ENGLISH SETTLEMENT IN EDWARDS COUNTY ILLINOIS, Edward Coad died 1860-1870.
Undocumented reports indicate he was born Dec 5, 1776, Truro, Cornwall, England, the son of Edward and Elizabeth Ann (Logan) Coad of Truro and married Feb 20, 1776, Jane Taylor of Truro.
The source for much of this information is the book "Genealogy of the Coads : with a partial history of Cowles, Kelletts, Cowlings and others". by J Edward Coad ~1964. (I have not seen this book)
A tree for this Edward is on the IGI, showing him to be the son of Edward, born 1752 Epsom Surrey (son of James and Martha Coad), who married Elizabeth Ann Logan in Exeter 1776 and had a family in Truro
Now the trouble with this whole IGI tree is that it consists of sealings (records submitted since 1990) - there is not one extracted record. It is also peculiar, with people moving Cornwall-> London----> Exeter ---> Truro, very rare in those days; and with no apparent hard evidence. As time has gone on and other traces of this family have failed to appear, I have become quite suspicious.
Here are the key vital records
- Edward Coad Sr, b 1754 Epsom Surrey, James and Martha
- Edward Coad m Elizabeth Ann Logan 20/2/1776 Exeter
- Edward Coad ch 5/12/1776 Truro, Ed+Eliz Ann
- George Coad ch 14/01/1779 Truro, Ed+Eliz Ann
- Edward jr Coad m Jane Taylor 17/5/1799 Truro
- Ann Coad b 3/03/1802 Truro
- Mary Coad ch 8/9/1804 Truro
- Elizabeth Coad 20/05/1808 Truro
- Thomas Coad 1810
- Jane Coad 28/9/1814 Truro.
My request is - does anyone have access to Truro records and can confirm any of the above alleged baptisms/marriages?
These children look very much like the offspring of Edward Coad/Jane Best of St Stephens to me, rather than any Truro family. the order is correct and the dates are close.
Joe Flood
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im not sure but my grandfathers name is george coad ps are you from ohio
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hello im not to sure of were we started in the states as far as i no were just fron cleveland and and came from whales but anything is posible
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Hi Can you tell me who your ancestors were back as far as you know, it's difficult for us to locate anyone after about 1920.
In particular are you descended from the Coads of Licking Ohio, who go back to about 1820 there? We are very keen to contact members of that family.
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Imeed to find out more on on the coad family were we come from what we were into as far as work play and family iwas born in cleveland ohio in 1982 my father frank coad also 1953 he has 4 brothers and 6 sisters in cleveland also i have 1 brother 3 nephews 1 niese 6 cousins with the last name coad and a large amount with out our last name but still by blood if anyone can asist me in my search for information about the coad family please send your replies thankyou hope to here from you soon NJCOAD
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SCOTT, (Coode) ANN, Charles Co., widow. 26 Mar, 1763
13 Dec, 1763
To dau. Rebecca Burch., slaves; at her decease, to grand-dau, Ann Burch, If she die without Issue to daus. Susanna, Rebecca and Margret Burch.
To grand-dau. Cathrain Scott, one slave; If she die without female hrs., sd. slave to her bro. William Scott; If he die without hr., to his next hr.; dau. Elizabeth Love, shall keep sd. slave until grand-dau, Cathrain Scott, comes of age 16.
To grand-dau, Ann Love, one slave and her Increase; If she die before of age, sd. slave and Increase t~o be divided equally between her sisters, Sarah and Margret Love,
To grand-son William Scot, 5,000 lbs. tobacco.
To grand-dau. Sarah Love.
To grand-dau. Margret Love.
Extx: Dau. Elizabeth Love,
Wit: Keln. Happack McPherson, William McPherson. 31.1039 (Prominent Quaker),
John Love
Date: Dec 6, 1753
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Record ID: 37205
Description: Buyer
Book-Page: WB3-447
Remarks: Sale of Nicholas Trout's estate to, viz: Jno. Love, Jno. Hales, Patrick Wilson, Jno. Walles, Valentine Pence, Wm. Logan, Gasper Faught, Jacob Sink, Andw. Faught, Evan Evans, Pat. Kinney, widow Trout, Nicholas Millberry, Thos. Crawford, Geo. Trout, J
This probate record was originally published in "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, 1745-1800. Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County" by Lyman Chalkley
Conrad Cood Date: May 16, 1753 Location: Augusta Co., VA Notes: This probate record was originally published in "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, 1745-1800. Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County" by Lyman Chalkley. Remarks: Paul Long's bond as guardian (appointed) to Conrad and Jacob Cood, orphans of Caspar Fought, deceased. Description: Orphan Book date: WB1-502 ---- Jacob Cood Date: May 16, 1753 Location: Augusta Co., VA Notes: This probate record was originally published in "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, 1745-1800. Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County" by Lyman Chalkley. Remarks: Paul Long's bond as guardian (appointed) to Conrad and Jacob Cood, orphans of Caspar Fought, deceased. Description: Orphan Book date: WB1-502 Conrad Cood Date: May 16, 1753 Location: Augusta Co., VA Jacob Cood Date: May 16, 1753 Location: Augusta Co., VA Conrad Good Date: Sep 10, 1772 Location: Augusta Co., VA Notes: This probate record was originally published in "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, 1745-1800. Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County" by Lyman Chalkley. Remarks: Paul Shaver's estate appraised by Francis Wire (McGuire) Joseph Crouch, Conrad Good. Description: Appraiser Book date: WB5-73
Conrod Good Date: Nov 18, 1777 Location: Augusta Co., VA Property: On branches of Skidmore's Run, waters of South Branch of Potomac. Notes: This land record was originally published in "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, 1745-1800. Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County" by Lyman Chalkley. Remarks: Property patented to grantor, 20 Jul 1768. Description: Grantee Book date: 22-365
ESTHER CLARE.
Esther Clare was the wife of William Clare, of Newtown, Cheshire, Great Britain. They removed to Philadelphia, in the year 1714, bringing a certificate from newtown, bearing dte First mo. 2d, of that year. Esther was at that time in the station of an acknowledged minister of the gospel. She was born about the beginning of the year 1675, but of the time of her convincement, marriage and entrance into the ministry, we have no account. She was soon a useful member of the Monthly Meeting of Philadelphia, labouring in the discipline, as well as in word and doctrine.
Her gospel services were much confined within the limits of her own Yearly Meeting until the year 1721, when she was liberated by her friends to visit Great Britain and Ireland. She was absent from home on this service, a little over two years. At the Monthly Meeting, held Eleventh mo. 31st 1723, she returned her certificate indorsed by the Morning Meeting in London, and in the General Meeting of Ministers: in the ensuing First month, she gave a "large account of her travels in Great Britain and Ireland," which was acceptable to her friends.
In the middle and latter part of the year 1725, in company with her friend, Mary Lewis, the wife of Evan Lewis, of Chester county, she paid an extensive visit through Maryland, Virginia and North Carolina. At the General Meeting of Ministers, in the First month, 1726, Mary Lewis gave in an account of their labours on this journey, and produced sundry certificates of the satisfaction of Friends, where they had travelled, with their service amongst them. In the summer of 1727, with her former companion, Esther visited the meetings and Friends on the Eastern Shore.
Esther Clare was a personal friend of Ralph Sandiford, as was also her husband. He remembered them in his will, and appointed William one of his executors. William appears to have been an improving man in religious things, and although not ranking amongst the rich or great in civil society, was evidently possessed of the confidence and esteem of his fellow-members. Like many another useful man in the Society of Friends in that day, he was a shoemaker by profession. The health of this valuable couple became feeble, and after 1737we find no mention of the services of Esther, who yet at times was enabled to attend her own meetings for worship. Her husband deceased about the time she did -- probably a little before. The Monthly Meeting of Philadelphia says of her: --
"Esther Clare was a minister well qualified for the publication of the doctrine of the gospel, and visited Friends in Great Britain and Ireland in the service of Truth. The latter part of her life, when not prevented by bodily infirmities, we had the benefit of her labours much in this city; and her testimony being attended with demonstration of Divine help, was well accepted, and of good service. She departed this life the 3d of the Eighth month, 1742, in the 68th year of her age, in unity and good esteem among Friends." Although Pennsylvania had been created initially as a haven for Quakers, the arrival of numerous immigrants with other religious beliefs provided in time such a shift in emphasis that many Quakers felt compelled to move elsewhere. In the year 1730 the Quaker leaders Alexander Ross and Morgan Bryan appeared before the Governor and Council of Virginia and from them received a grant of 100,000 acres on the Opequon River in Frederick County, Virginia. This encouraged the move of many Quakers who followed them to back Virginia country. Because these people moved through the Monocacy area of Maryland it may prove interesting to list some who were named in the Virginia State Land Office records.
In 1726 the New Garden Monthly Meeting, which had been established at Chester, Pennsylvania some eight years earlier, gave permission to the Quakers settled along the Monocacy River "to hold religious services on first days in the home of Josiah Ballenger, the Meeting to be called Monoquesey." In the 1721 Census for Chester Co. PA. We have Richard Lewis (Quaker) Living next to Joseph Cloud (Quaker). We also had an Evan Lewis (Prominent Quakers), on this census. Both of these families started in Maryland, but moved because of religious persecution. As did most of the other families we intermarried with, they had connections to the Quakers. Richard BEESON, In 1737 Purchased from George Robinson and John Peteate, 1,650 acres lying on Tuscarorror Branch in what is now Berkeley Co., WV 2 miles west of Martinsburg. On the property was the Providence (Quaker) Meeting House.Richard BEESON<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dang&id=I379> b: 10 Month 1684 in , New Castle Co, DE. Spouse: Charity GRUBB<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dang&id=I380> b: 29 Sep 1687 in Brandywine, New Castle Co, DE. Nicholas Trippe, Timothy Coode's father-in-law, bought land in 1749, on Sleepy Creek, Berkeley Co., VA (currently Morgan Co., WV)
>From "FREDERICK COUNTY VIRGINIA MINTUTES OF COURT RECORDS 1743 - 1745" by John David Davis (Heritage Books, Inc.) P. 225 Frederick Co. VA has 1283 Tithables. (Men over 16 years of age.) I have comprised a list of families that all had connections to Timothy Coode/Cude b. abt.1740. These are all people he grew up with and their children inter-married. Most of them moved on to Randolph Co. NC. P. 30, DAVID LEWIS made constable. David Lewis Spouse: Mrs Tabitha Lewis Parents: David Lewis , Mary Crawford Birth Place: Frederick, VA Birth Date: 1725 P. 249, VINCENT LEWIS vs. William Halley, petition --and on page 124 P. 416, William Moodits, John Campbell, Charles Barnes, John Frederick, (Mrs. Ann (Coode) Scott 86.2 CH £412.10.4 Apr 1764 Nov 14 1764-Next of kin: Thomas Burch, Jr., William Frederick.) Isaac White, Andrew Vance, Thomas Edwards, John Rogers, Evan Rogers, Owen Rogers, John Keith, Henry Bowen, Henry Bowen Jr. DAVID LEWIS, JOHN LEWIS, RICHARD LEWIS, John Neil, William (Albin) Allban, Ralph Humfrey, Evan Pugh, (Ruth Pugh born 1746-married Peter Julian (1740-1746) about 1771 with a daughter Nancy Julian born 1773-1845 married Isaiah Lewis) Nicholds Princeler, Stephen Minor (Prominent Quakers), Jacob Taylor, Daniel Southerland, John (Lomax?) Loarack, John French & John Newton to be added to tithables. David Lewis is also listed on pages 4 & 15. ROBERT G LEWIS son of RICHARD Lewis was born 01 Dec 1789 in Randolph Co. NC, and died in Indiana. He married SYLVANIA CUDE daughter of Timothy. Evan Lewis Sex: M Birth: 24 JUN 1755 in Hopewell MM. (Quaker), Frederick Co., VA .Death: 4 JUL 1823 in Lost Creek MM, Jefferson Co., Tn Death: 4 JUL 1823.--- Jefferson Tenn. Was the home of Tidence Lane Jr. and Mary Jane Cude. Frederick Co., VA -Geographically, John Beall was also not living in the Quaker area, but his religious association linked him there. Not to be confused with the Beall Family of southern Maryland, he was a Pennsylvania Quaker, the son of Robert (??-JTR) Beall, and lived on the west side of Catoctin Creek, along the Potomac. His land "Chance" was surveyed on January 12, 1732/33. It was probably his son Thomas Beall who married Sarah Ancrum. The list of witnesses to this marriage is especially interesting for its identification of a number of the Quakers from Monocacy: Oliver, Thomas, Mary and Elizabeth Matthews, Francis Henley, Amos Jenny (Janney), Evan Thomas, John Wright, Sarah Beals, Hannah Ballenger, Susanna Moon and Mary Tannyhill.
In the 1721 Census for Chester Co. PA. We have Richard Lewis Living next to Joseph Cloud. Both of these families started in Maryland and were active in the Quaker movement, but moved because of religious persecution. As did most of the other families we intermarried with. ROBERT G LEWIS son of RICHARD Lewis Jr. was born 01 Dec 1789 in Randolph Co. NC, and died in Indiana. He married SYLVANIA CUDE daughter of Timothy. Margaret Albin<http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?tid=274768&pid=-2101037275> Birth: 1695--Quaker from Chester Co. Pennsylvania-In 1739 we have Thomas Albin (Quaker) and Samuel Thatcher (Quaker) both listed as a partners in land in VA. With John Cude's father-in law William King. --- Margaret Albin married John Hunter, their daughter Elizabeth Hunter Married Benjamin Beeson<about:/pt/person.aspx?tid=231886&pid=-2106291068> (Quaker) In Frederick Co. VA. Their son James Beeson Sex: M Birth: 3 JUN 1783 in Randolph Co. NC. Death: 5 APR 1814 in Auglaize County, Ohio Married: 16 JAN 1805 in Randolph County, North Carolina Lydia (Coode) Cude<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kmgb2345&id=I37762> b: ABT. 1785 in Randolph Co. NC. Death: 13 APR 1857 in New Madison, Darke Co. Ohio. The John Cude listed below was her Grandfather.-- Mary THATHER Sex: F Birth: Abt 1700 in Birmingham, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA Father: Johnathan THATCHER<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a24546&id=I575> b: 15 DEC 1667 in Uffington,Berkshire,England --Mother: Hannah DICKS DIEKS<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a24546&id=I576> b: 1682 in Chester,Cheshire,England--Marriage 1 George HODGSON OR HODSO<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a24546&id=I326> b: 6 JAN 1701 in Doncaster,York Co,England--The Dicks family were active in the Quaker movement and intermarried with my family------Esther THATHER Sex: F Birth: WFT Est. 1688-1710 in Pennsylvania Death: WFT Est. 1733-1799 in Pennsylvania -Burial Pennsylvania. Marriage 1 Issac WIDOWS<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v63t1039&id=I143> b: 25 DEC 1697 in Edenberry, Kings Co. Ireland
Married: 1726 in Chester Co. Pennsylvania
Children
Isaac Widows JR.<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v63t1039&id=I174> b: 1730 in Pennsylvania
Jacob WIDDOES<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v63t1039&id=I175> b: WFT Est. 1716-1739 in Pennsylvania
John WIDDOS<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v63t1039&id=I176> b: WFT Est. 1718-1747
Abraham WIDDOS<about:/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v63t1039&id=I177> b: WFT Est. 1718-1747
The HORNER & LEWIS families were related.
Elizabeth HORNER Sex: F Birth: ABT 1663 in Prince George Co. Maryland Death: 1734 in Upper Marlboro, Prince George Co. Maryland -Father: Thomas Horner
Marriage John Lewis b: ABT 1661 in , Prince George Co. Maryland
Children
Captain Peter Coode (No known family left in Maryland)
Proceedings and Acts of the General Assembly, September, 1704-April, 1706
Volume 26, Page 553
By an order of Councill to pay Capt Peter Coode
Comandr of his Maiestys Ship Messenger
Original Journal.
Advice Boate one hundred pounds, fifty
pounds wrof, was repaid by the said Coode
as by George Plater Esqr Recr his account
doth more at large appear By Cash paid Capt Nathanl Bostock by order" of the Psident & Councill for the use of her £ s. D. 50...00...00 Majestys Ship the Eagle Advice Boate to purchase Provisions as p order & Receit
£100..00..00
Totall ...... 260..00..00
The Premisses Considered Wee the Governour Councill &
Generall Assembly now Conven'd do most humbly intreat yor Lordship favorably to lay this Matter before her most gracious Majesty that this province may be reimbursd those severall sums amounting to 260' as her sacred Majesty in her Princely Wisdom shall direct which has been so misapplyed contrary to his late Maty King Williams Instructions. Wee her Majtys Loyal Subjects having only that poor Banke for the Support of our Country agt all Enemys both foreigne & Domestick which will now be Sufficiently drain'd when the Arms & Amu-nition are paid for which his Exncy our present Governour (our wants being Considered) hath undertaken to Supply us with.
Your Ldps favour and Justice in this Matter will for ever
oblige us to be
My Lord
Your Lordships most obliged
faithfull humble Servants
Both which Addresses were Read at the Board & well ap-
prov'd of And were Sign'd by his Exncy the members of the
honourable Councill & those of the house of Delegates
Mr Wells & Mr Thomas Frisby bring from the house a Bill p. 64
Incouraging the making Hemp & Flax within this Province
Engross'd which was read and assented to by her Majestys
honourable Councill & was sent to the house by Mr Coursey
Mr Ennalls brings up the Engrossd bill for preventing the
Exportation of European Cofnoditys which was read & as-
sented to & sent to the house by Col Lloyd & Coll Holland
together with the Journall of the Comittee of Accounts
Assented to by the board
Mr Ennalls brings from the house the foil: Message viz.
Religion can not be over stated as a force in the lives of our ancestors. While the Crown was interested in how much money could be made from the colonies. The people were coming for religious freedom. Because of Religious persecution , people tended to stay within their own circles of like minded people. The Puritans were among the first settlers and around before the Quakers, Many Puritans later converted to the Quaker religion. As the Puritans were expelled from Virginia in 1649, the Quakers were expelled in 1672, but many stayed and had secret meetings. Marriage out side of the faith was grounds for expulsion. The Pope family was among the early Quaker families in Virginia. Many Quakers moved to North Carolina (along the coast) and many to Maryland. The majority of Quaker families sent members to colonize North Carolina. Pasquotank Monthly Meeting (Symons Creek) NC. (Quaker) --- William Travis, son of William, married Sary Travis, daughter of Robert West, of New England, in Providence RI. Married in the year 1666. Children---Margory -b,1667---Danell -b, 1669---William -b, 1671---Sary -b, 1672---John -b, 1676---Deborah -b, 1678---William, the younger,- b, 1681. The Pope and Travis families both inter-married with the grandchildren of Nancy Ann(King) Coode/Trippe and Nicholas Trippe. By checking the Quaker records, we see the connections and forces that drove these people to the frontier. The Baptists, that became the predominate Religion in the south, after 1740, converted many from these families from their previous Religions.
All of these people had connections to Thomas Gerrard, John Coode's father-in-law.John Coode and his wife Susanna Gerard/Slye/Coode ( b: Abt 1633 in Newhall, Lancashire, England- 1681). Her decested Husband, Robert Stye appears to be connected to a simi-Quaker group out of Conn. in the 1650's, that John Coode had connections with the Quakers. The Rogerenes of New Jersey and Connecticut to the north and the Edisto community in South Carolina to the south, were independent religious groups, very similar to the Society of Friends, or Quakers, in practice and principles. Of these three similar, yet different, societies, the Nicholites became the most widespread and the best known. At the end of the eighteenth century they could be found in Delaware, Maryland, North and South Carolina.
Genealogical Dictionary of New England Settlers -- Sley, or Slye, Christopher, Boston, his w. Eliz. d. 10 Aug. 1696, and he d. 25 Nov. 1697. ROBERT, in Conn. was fin. in Apr. 1649, for exchang. a gun with an Ind. That would explain John's marriage so soon after his arrival. Birds of a feather, flocked together. They all had connections to the Quakers. The law ordering banishment of Quakers upon pain of death had been passed by a bare majority of one vote. In October, 1659, when William Robinson, Marmaduke Stevenson, and Mary Dyer were sentenced to death, military precautions were taken to prevent an outbreak. A conception of the fears of the magistrates and the excitement of the populace is possible, when we remember that the population of Boston was, at the most, but a few thousands; and then read in the official record that the prisoners were escorted to the gallows by "Captain James Oliver, with one hundred soldiers, completely armed with pike, and musketeers, with powder and bullet." From the Journal of John Woolman-(Prominent Quaker), -Finding a concern to visit Friends in the lower counties of Delaware, and on the eastern shore of Maryland, and having an opportunity to join with my well-beloved ancient friend, John Sykes, we obtained certificates, and set off the 7th of Eighth Month, 1748, were at the meetings of Friends in the lower counties, attended the Yearly Meeting at Little Creek, and made a visit to most of the meetings on the eastern shore, and so home by the way of Nottingham.
All the first-round results on the Coad DNA project are now in - and the original hypothesis that the Cornish Coads and Coodes had a single ancestor has been firmly demolished. Of four Cornish samples, the only two to match were the two known cousins from Looe.
There's still a very long-shot chance that the descendants of Robert Coad the Convict of Truro/Tasmania are related to the North Hill Coads - but we cant count on it. The Looe Coads are a different family entirely - despite having origins within a few miles of the much more numerous North Hill Coads.
The multiple origins of the name make the DNA study all the more important to sort out who is related to whom. .
A small group of us (Vern, Ed Allan, Alexandra and myself) have been looking at the question of the earliest Coads and Coodes in North America. We believe that the first few immigrants to the US were as follows.
- John Coode (Breage/Menheniot Coodes) to Maryland 1672.
- Stephen Coad (North Hill Coads) to Massachusetts 1714. Descendants (probably) to Maryland, Tennessee and Ohio
- Edward Coad to Maine 1806, then Edwards Co Illinois 1817.
- John Coad +Jane Jeffrey (Ermington Coads) to Penn 1827. Descendants to Iowa and Indiana. Youngest brother Henry to Penn 1825.
The two earliest immigrants are causing us quite a problem. From Alexandra and Linda Reno we have known for a while that there were two separate Coode/Coad families in St Marys Co, Maryland, around 1750 - one Protestant, one Catholic. They must be descended from John and Stephen respectively. Despite the best efforts of the group, and some very detailed and colourful family history work from Ed and Vern, we cant easily distinguish from the paper evidence in the late 1700s which family is which.
There are living male descendants of one or both of these families in Tennessee and in Ohio. This is a great chance to use DNA to see what really happened to these families in the early days of US settlement, if we can convince the right people to participate.
Joe Flood
Thank you, Vern. I would really appreciate being kept in the loop.
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Of VERNON L CUDE
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Subject: Re: [COAD] Coads of Maryland and Ohio
Alexandra, I to have been sharing info with Linda, Joe Flood and Ed Allen. I
will be happy to include you on my email list. They will of course go over
anything I send and let me know about my mistakes. We are in the beginning
stages of sorting out the two families, as one was Catholic and the other
appears to be connected to the Quakers. I am working on a time line and
location chart and will send it to you as soon as it is completed.---Vern
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I'd just like to interject here that the information I have comes largely
from Linda Reno who has done a great deal of research on St. Mary's Co.
For
a long time I thought our Coads were related to the Gerrard Coads.
Unfortunately I could never make the link. Linda's research makes sense to
me. Unfortunately there is not a lot of information regarding our line
back
that far and we cannot determine when our Coads came over or their point
of
origin. I am hopeful someone, somewhere, sometime will be able to fill in
the missing data. Anyone out there?
Alexandra
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Hi Ron and Lesley
Your DNA result came in last week while I was overseas., Its great to get a
DNA sample from Robert the convict; as you know the early origins of his
family are somewhat obscured in the spaghetti birthlines of Central
Cornwall.
Well - we can say you are R1b1 haplotype, definitely aboriginal west
european like most of us. You are a relative of the North Hill COADs, but a
very distant one (6 markers different out of 25).
We are going to have to get more Central Cornwall COADs on board to work out
what is going on. I'm working on it!
Keep an eye out to see if you get a closer match with anyone; I will do that
too. If you want to go onto Ysearch for more possible matches, that is
easily done
Cheers
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: <lesleycoad(a)optusnet.com.au>
To: <COAD(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: [COAD] robert coad
>
Alexandra, I to have been sharing info with Linda, Joe Flood and Ed Allen. I will be happy to include you on my email list. They will of course go over anything I send and let me know about my mistakes. We are in the beginning stages of sorting out the two families, as one was Catholic and the other appears to be connected to the Quakers. I am working on a time line and location chart and will send it to you as soon as it is completed.---Vern
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From: Alexandra Haslip<mailto:ahaslip@comcast.net>
To: 'Coad one-name project'<mailto:coad@one-name.org> ; coad(a)rootsweb.com<mailto:coad@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [COAD] Coads of Maryland and Ohio
I'd just like to interject here that the information I have comes largely
from Linda Reno who has done a great deal of research on St. Mary's Co. For
a long time I thought our Coads were related to the Gerrard Coads.
Unfortunately I could never make the link. Linda's research makes sense to
me. Unfortunately there is not a lot of information regarding our line back
that far and we cannot determine when our Coads came over or their point of
origin. I am hopeful someone, somewhere, sometime will be able to fill in
the missing data. Anyone out there?
Alexandra
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As a first step toward unravelling the Coads of the United States, I have
been looking at the Coodes and Coads of St Marys Co Maryland - since these
were easily the first on the continent. I have been helped by the terrific
narrative on these families prepared by Ed Allan, and by Vern Cude's
untiring efforts. Much of this has now been incorporated into the 'coode'
database in ancestry.worldconnect.com.
It seems, as Alexandra Haslip has been telling us, that these are two
separate families. The Coodes were descended from Rev Col John Coode, one of
the wealthy Coodes of Breage that produced so many eminent people. Col
John's family were virulently anti-Catholic, to the extent that Jon
masterminded several revolts against the Catholic oligarchy of Maryland
(originally founded by the Calverts as a refuge for English Catholics).
Several members of the family specifically included in their wills the
condition that only non-Catholics were to inherit.
The Coad family of St Marys, on the contrary, were devout and kept their
faith through their history (although a few married outside the faith). They
were also quite eminent in the history of Maryland, supp;ying or marrying a
number of holders of public office. They supported various Catholic
churches, convents and schools, and three became nuns of distinction. The
family tradition is that they were unrelated to the Coodes and came to
Maryland from New England to escape persecution.
So who were they? The story we are investigating (for which we currently
have not a lot of evidence!) is that Stephen Coad of Quethiock, eldest son
of the North Hill line, was a Catholic and a Jacobite who emigrated in a
hurry to Massachusetts in 1714 (when George I came to the throne, just
before the first Jacobite uprising) and married there in 1715, producing
children James, Edwin and Mary (that we know of).
John and Drayden Coad of Ohio also appear to be of this family. It is
alleged that John's father was one Ignatius Coad, named for Ignatius Loyala,
founder of the Jesuits. The Jesuits founded the Church of St Ignatius, St
Inigoes , the family church of the Coads where many of them are buried.
http://www.genealogysource.com/ignatius.htm
Unfortunately the male line of this family appears to have become extinct in
1977, otherwise we could pull off a great DNA coup by firmly estabishing
this family was from Cornwall.
I have also included this family with its fascinating history in database
"coode".