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I'm searching info about Samuel Clutter and Margaret Vance Clutter shown in 1880 census to be in PA. I believe the John Vance in their household to be brother to my great-grandfather. I am looking for anything I can get on them.
Thanks, Tim Vance
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Gee, I see your problem. Not much to find on these CLUTTERs.
I can only volunteer some clues, no hard info. The 1870 census of Waterville, Lucas Co OH shows Eliza A. age 30, born OH, David age 10-OH, Sarah J age 7-OH, Arabell age 5/12-OH and Mary A, age 2-OH. I have to suggest that Mary A. is your Martha Adelia, actually born in about 1868. (Yes, i know that the 1900 Washington Census shows her born in 1874, but marriage at age 15 was very, very rare.) This looks very much like a young widow with children.
Earlier, the 1860 census of Providence Twp, Lucas Co OH shows Andrew CLATER, age 25 and Eliza age 18, probably recently married. My hunch is that this is the son of Jonathan CLUTTER, born about 1800, of Licking Co OH 1830-40, Putnam Co OH 1850-60 and DeKalb Co IN 1870-80.
My suggestion is that in addition to checking the Lucas County records for these people, you may wish to try to track down a probate record for Jonathan CLUTTER in DeKalb Co IN to see if he was the grandfather, and may have remembered children of a deceased son Andrew in his will. I think some of Jonathan's descendants may be reading this, and may be able to help.
Good hunting,
Bill Hampshire
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Surnames: CLUTTER, PEOPLES, WOLFE, WATTS
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MARTHA ADELIA (DELIA) CLUTTER was my great-grandmother. She was born in Toledo, Ohio on Jan 06, 1875. Her family originally came from Pennsylvania. Her mother's name was Liza PEOPLES. Her father's first name is unknown. Delia had two sisters and a brother: Mary, Bell and David CLUTTER. Her mother married a second time to a man with the last name of WOLFE, then had at least two other boys (names unknown).
Delia married ROLAND/ROLLAND ELVESTER WATTS in Montana Territory in 1889.
Sure do hope someone knows something about this; (my) family!
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Surnames: Clutter
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You wondered about the murder of the Clutter's. Here is an interesting way to find out a lot of information quickly. Go to the site - vivisimo.com, - and then in the search box enter "clutter family", and you will get 190 results that talk about them, and 58 results that talk about Cold Blood. On the left hand side of the screen you will see all the results clustered into their appropriate topics, including genealogy, images, family trees,.... This is a powerful search engine that has really helped me track down information quickly.
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Surnames: CLUTTER
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Does anyone know about the compiled information Doug Clutter posted concerning the Clutter family of Knox County, Ohio. (Doug Clutter posted 25 June 2000, 15 Feb 2001, and 13 Feb 2001.) He spoke about the "Queen of England offering free passage" and about his second cousin compiling a lot of research on the Clutters, and about the different German names that Clutter might equate to.
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Isn't that interesting that you would post this at this time? Is this the book by Colleen Mills? I just found this publication through the Mormons and was prepared to go see if I could get it shipped to my nearest FHC, which is 3 hours away. I hope she posts an easier of obtaining the book!
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Yea, sorry about the name changes, but don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger.
I am related in a very distant sense, as I am from the descendants of Samuel CLUTTER of Knox Co OH. I have been working on the family actively since the 1970's, at first with Miss Gladys INGRAM of Stillwater OK. I had the good fortune to travel all around the country on business, and was able to detour to many of the archives and courthouses which house CLUTTER records. I located early on the will of Casper CLATTRE of Bucks Co PA, which Gladys abstracted in her book, and she and I sponsored the work of Hank JONES that identified Birkenau in Germany as the location from which the CLUTTERs emigrated. We had the Palatine rolls from London and New York, and much of the known early history of the family. My greatest source is a notebook in which I keep CLUTTER records by head of household, mostly all from before 1900.
Anyway, glad my notebook was helpful to you. I just gave you sketchy info because like all online data, you will want to verify it yourself.
Bill Hampshire
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Surnames: CLUTTER, ROLES
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Dear Doug,
I have tried to email you privately, but it bounced, hence this request on the public board. I too am from the Knox County Clutters and would really like to see the publication you mentioned. How can I obtain it?
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Wow....thanks for the info. Let's see.....Harrison (1850 census), Harvey (Oct 1850 marriage record), Harry (1860 census), and Henry (1880 census)....tracing that fellow is an adventure!!
Are you connected with this line of the family?
Tricia
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OK,
You will find Harrison CLUTTER in District 65 of Wood Co VA in 1850. In 1860, Ritchie Court House, Ritchie Co VA is Harry, age 32-VA, Sarah S. age 29-VA, Frances M., age 7-VA, Frances M., age 5-VA and George M., age 2-VA.
Also you will find in 1900 Kansas, Crawford Co, baker Twp, Sarah S, born Dec 1831-WV, Francis M., born Dec 1853-WV and Jennie, born Oct 1872-MO plus John B. BENSON, a boarder. Newton J. is in Crawford twp, Crawford Co KS in 1900 with a large family. Some of his offspring died in KS according to the Social Security database.
Hope this helps.
Bill Hampshire
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Surnames: Malone, Clutter
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Jean,
Hello again...been a while. I have been trying to fine tune some of my Malone data and I have come across this same question. BUT I think I may have found Sara Malone Clutter & family.
First, here is the information I was provided (with no sources):
Sara S. Malone, b. abt 1832, Ritchie Co, VA (date based on the fact that she was 18 on the 1850 census with her parents)
married
Harvey Clutter 17 Oct 1850, Ritchie Co, VA
I was provided with the names of 3 children, which I can only assume was based on the 1860 census, but I haven't actually seen the listing:
Francis M. (male) b. abt 1853
Newton J. b. abt 1855
George M. b. abt 1858
This morning, I believe I found them in 1880 in Crawford, Crawford Co, KS, although I couldn't find "hind nor hair" of them in 1870. The listing for them reads as follows:
Henry CLUTTER 57 PA Farming PA PA
Sarah S. CLUTTER 49 VA Keeping House VA VA
Francis CLUTTER 26 VA Works On Farm PA VA
George E. CLUTTER 21 VA Works On Farm PA VA
Henry CLUTTER 15 VA At School PA VA
Addie CLUTTER 13 MO At School PA VA
Virginia CLUTTER 11 MO At School PA VA
Next door is:
Newton J. CLUTTER 24 VA Farming PA VA
Mary B. CLUTTER 18 IL Keeping House IL IL
Based on this, either the marriage record or (more likely) the census taker recorded the wrong name...or maybe one is a middle name.
Coincidentally (or maybe not), in that same year, Mary Margaret Malone, daughter of Alfred Malone & Sarah Butcher, and her husband, John Fanshaw, lived in the same county.
I have a notation that Sara Malone Clutter died in Iowa, but I have no date, ect. Do you have anything more?
Tricia Smith
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The pension file is available from the National Archives and Records Administration in Washington DC. You'll need to get NATF Form 85 to request the file. A copy of all the papers in the file (which I would recommend for a direct descendant) will cost you almost $40.00, a lot more than it used to be. But probably still worth it.
His pension application was rejected, apparently because his service could not be confirmed, but perhaps because he actually deserted, as did so many during Valley Forge and other hardships.
Bill Hampshire
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Dear Bill or who can help,
Please tell me where to request the RW pension application for William Clutter.
Note: My husband is descendant of John T. & Catherine Clutter ..and.......there second child, Deborah Clutter who married James White in 1841.
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Surnames: Lewis Cutlip Clutter
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I was recently going over the 1850 Greenbrier Co.census again,and discovered something interesting.About 4 or 5 doors down from Stephen Clutter,lives the large Lewis family.Nestled in amongst them is Nancy Cutlip,age 23,with 2 small daughters...Lydia Cutlip,4, and Rachel Cutlip,2.No husband indicated.I have a theory (just that) that this Gal was a Lewis by birth,and something happened to her husband,and she moved back home with family.Employment with the Lewis family is not indicated.So,this would make the woman Nancy Lewis Cutlip.As I said,she only lived a few doors away from Stephen Clutter,making an affair quite convenient.So if Nancy (Lewis) Cutlip bore a child by Stephen out of wedlock,his last name would have been Cutlip from his mothers marriage name and Clutter by fathers name.Thus the Nancy Lewis, and George Cutlip - Clutter connection.Just a theory though! Deb