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Hello all,
Some time ago I sent the following introductory message to this mail list :
"*IF* our genealogy trails are correct Jim Cloyes and my Cloys cousin
will be connected to the brothers John Cloyes b. 1707 and James Cloyes
(2) b. 1710.
These men are said to be sons of James Cloyes (1) b. 1678."
This relationship has been confirmed by the 33/37 Y-DNA marker test
results reported for the two testees. This indicates that James Cloyes
(1) b. 1678 is my 6th gr-grandfather as he is also to my Cloys 3rd
cousin.
Depending on which generation Jim Cloyes belongs to he could be related
to James Cloyes (1) b. 1678 at the 5th or 6th gr-grandfather level.
*ALSO* just recently found is an autosomal DNA (atDNA) connection
between myself and a lady who has a Cloyes connection back to Keziah
Cloyes b. 1705 - daughter of James Cloyes (1) b. 1678 - older sister to
the brothers b. 1710 and 1710 listed above. This lady is thus a proven
7th cousin to me and to the other two fellows who have tested Y-DNA.
The autosomal DNA testing procedure is just coming into its own now and
for the first time allows for connecting back to 5th cousin or deeper
level - providing the two persons tested have matching segments of
autosomal DNA levels beyond the amount that could be found as pure
random occurrence. The new twist to this approach is that it allows
males and females to compare DNA without having to be in a direct male
to male or female to female ancestry.
This will allow many of the dedicated female surname researchers to use
atDNA to confirm their paper trail documentation *or* it will indicate
they may be on an incorrect ancestral path. You will be seeing a lot of
developments forthcoming in the next few years with atDNA use for
genealogy research.
As always I will be glad to answer any questions anyone may have.
Bill Harvey
Administrator for the Cloyes Y-DNA surname project at FTDNA.
A purely volunteer effort with no benefits or remuneration received from
any entity.
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