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Hi Bill,
I saw this a couple of years ago and it didn't seem to progress. My brother
Tom has done a lot of tracing back to about 1300's.
I would think a Cloyes project would be a good idea. What is the cost of
DNA testing? And additional costs downline?
Thanks,
James R. Cloyes Son of Thomas Brown Cloyes
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Hi James,
Well I am not permitted to discuss price specifically on a Rootsweb mail
list but I think I can say that the cost of the very informative 37
marker test has been very substantially reduced for a limited period of
time (until year end).
Normally the 37 marker test is all that is needed to indicate the level
of relatedness between two male test subjects - but remember - it will
not identify which one of, for example, five brothers, the testee
*could* be descended from - but rather that he is related (or not) to a
specific family line as *suggested* by paper trail research. In other
words it is a great tool for verification of proposed documented research.
In order to take advantage of the discounted price the order must be
made through the Group order form.
I will privately e-mail the actual price list to you now and to any
others who indicate interest.
I am planning to talk with my own Cloys relative and get an order
started for him during this heavily discounted period.. If you and
others are really interested I can get a Cloyes Group set up in quick order.
Thanks for the interest.
Bill Harvey
RMAXDOG(a)aol.com wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> I saw this a couple of years ago and it didn't seem to progress. My brother
> Tom has done a lot of tracing back to about 1300's.
>
> I would think a Cloyes project would be a good idea. What is the cost of
> DNA testing? And additional costs downline?
>
> Thanks,
>
> James R. Cloyes Son of Thomas Brown Cloyes
> **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW
> AOL.com.
> (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom000...)
>
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To Cloyes List,
It has been over two years since I first wrote the following quoted message.
A lot of new information has been develped by the genetic genealogy
community since then.
Are any Cloyes et al descendants interested in pursuing this further at
this time?
Bill Harvey
> To all Cloyes et al descendants,
>
> I have been interested in using "genetic genealogy" techniques in tandem
> with standard paper trail documented genealogy research for the past
> three years. As you are all well aware we eventually run into a lack of
> documentation for continuing our specific Cloyes family line backward
> into time.
>
> The great advantage of using DNA test results is that it can help to
> link us back in time to our ancestors and when applied correctly can
> point to a specific family line for further investigation when there is
> a question as to where to look next.
>
> DNA testing, however, of itself, without being linked to good
> genealogical documentation is not usually very productive.
>
> Inasmuch as there has been a significant amount of "accepted" research
> of the Cloyes line back to the mid-1500s I feel there could be a
> significant amount of benefit to be gained if enough DNA testing could
> be achieved.
>
> My great-grandmother was Sarah Elizabeth Cloyse dau of Henry Calvin
> Cloyse b. 1823 and Elizabeth Boyd Key b. 1821, NC.
>
> Through the use of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) by testing my female 1st
> cousin we have the mitochondrial DNA pattern established for our direct
> line of women ancestors back to 1821.
>
> Now I would like to begin working on the male Cloyes ancestry and am
> curious if there are other Cloyes researchers who would be interested in
> joining in?
>
> I am currently involved with the administration of three DNA projects.
>
> In 2004 I began the Harvey surname project and next joined the
> Asbill/Asbell project as co-administrator. I am currently also a
> co-administrator for the E3b Haplogroup Project.
>
> So --- with the above as background and with with all the fine research
> that has been done on the Cloyes family line in the past I would like to
> propose that a Cloyes surname project be started with the intent of
> aiding and strengthening the standard paper trails already in existence
> to hopefully show the way past a few "brick walls".
>
> For additional information about the program, procedures, and the DNA
> testing company please click on the following URL for much more
> information :
>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/
>
> This is the Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) ompany's main web page with a
> plethora of information to be reviewed by reading the many topics with
> clickable links.
>
> Once there enter HARVEY in the surname search box and you will be taken
> to a search results page - then click on the HARVEY link located in the
> lower left portion of the text which takes you to the HARVEY project
> page where you can click on the highlighted website link at the top of
> the page to view the Y-DNA test results of our members in tabular
> format. This is how our CLOYES Y-DNA test information would be
> discussed and displayed.
>
> The concept of Y-DNA research is that of tracing chromosomes having
> certain allele markers which have proven to be stable enough over
> hundreds of years to identify ancestral lineage quite conclusively when
> related members of a given descendancy are compared.
>
> If enough Cloyes researchers/descendants are interested in using this
> exciting new Genetic Genealogy concept to advance and further our
> standard paper documented genealogy efforts I will be pleased to work
> with all involved in setting the Cloyes surname project in motion.
>
> Please understand - this is purely a voluntary effort on my part - there
> is no compensation or benefit to me as an administrator other than the
> satisfaction of giving back to all of the Cloyes family of researchers
> who assembled the information years ago and who helped me identify my
> specific Cloyse line as it linked to the main family root.
>
> I am of course ready to answer any questions you may have - I would
> suggest keeping the conversation mainly on the mail-list in order for
> all to see and learn as issues are brought forth.
>
> William L (Bill) Harvey