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Don't know what's going on here...will try to sort it out.
Tom
At 07:58 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote:
> >From: rbharpole2(a)aol.com
> >
> >Hello Tom. I sent you a test message earlier and I'm just now
> >getting back to the reason for it. I saw your webpage about the
> >Cloyes and some of your information seems to mesh with mine. My
> >maiden name was Clough sometimes spelled Clow and a group of
> >researchers with similar surnames have participated in a Clough
> >surname study with Oxford Ancestors in England. There are close to
> >30 participants now and you can view the story at Oxford Ancestors
> >webpage at the bottom of the e-mail.
> >
> >Long story short - one of the DNA participants named Clowes'
> >ancestor was from Jamaica, Long Island, New York and prior to that
> >was from Derbyshire and Rudyard, Staffordshire. Sometimes their
> >family spelled their name Clulow and he seemed to think that he was
> >related to the Essex Clowes and Sir John Clois but he hasn't proven
> >that link yet.
> >
> >The reason that I'm interested in your family is that Cloyes is
> >awfully darn close to Clois. I know that you said that your Peter
> >Cloyse was from Colchester, Essex, England, but the Clowes, etc
> >family was massive and spread out all over creation. The particular
> >branch from Plaistow, Essex belonged to William Clowes, a physician
> >to Queen Elizabeth I. They think their earliest known ancestor was
> >Sir John Clois born in the 1400s and I apologize, I can't remember
> >specifically where he was from.
> >
> >I don't know how familiar you are with DNA analysis, but an exact
> >match with the same surname indicates the participants are likely of
> >the same family. We may never know which member of that family is
> >our ancestor, but it can get us to the right family. Genes mutate
> >naturally at a predicted rate of every 750 years but they can also
> >mutate from father to son. You still need to do regular research to
> >find your particular ancestor, but the DNA can give you a definitive
> >answer if you're looking at the right family.
> >
> >My own family of Clough/Clow had one marker different from another
> >Clough/Clow family from Maryland and Delaware and it's entirely
> >possible that their long lost William Clough born circa 1765 who
> >disappeared in 1801 was my 3x great grandfather William Clough, born
> >circa 1765 and who appeared in North Carolina in 1801. Until I know
> >better, I'm counting that as a father to son mutation. I found an
> >obituary from a member of this family which stated that his branch
> >was of the Denbigh, Wales family via Scotland and the New York
> >Colony. My other closest matches were New York Colony Dutch
> >Huguenot CLAUW and CLOW. My family "legend" is that my 3x great
> >grandfather William Clough was from England and New England and that
> >he was a ship captain. Massachusetts has been mentioned as the
> >birthplace of his son, also William Clough and there are hints and
> >allegations that tie Maine into the mix. William may have
> >originally been named Joseph and changed his name when he went to
> >sea. I'll explain more about that later if you're interested.
> >
> >Incidentally, the CLOWES DNA participant from Long Island is of the
> >same CLOWES family in Delaware living suspiciously near to my own
> >CLOUGH/CLOW family in Kent County, Delaware.
> >
> >We use the best known Clough family of Denbighshire, Wales as the
> >"standard" for matching other study participants. To give you a
> >breakout of the DNA analysis for a few of these:
> >
> >CLOWES Jamaica, Long Island, NY and Staffordshire, England
> >CLUETT Belgium to Northern France and Devon, England 2 markers
> >different from CLOWES
> >CLOUGH Denbigh, Wales and New England, USA includes John Clough
> >Society 2 markers different
> >CLOUGH (my family) Denbigh, Wales, Scotland, NY Colony 3 markers different
> >
> >Would you be interested in participating in the DNA study? You can
> >remain anonymous if you choose and be only identified as something
> >like Colchester,England/Maine/Massachusetts/Ohio CLOYES. You can
> >choose how specific you want your identifier to be.
> >
> >I would be willing to pay for half of your test since I want to be
> >able to compare CLOYES with the other participants. If you are not
> >interested, but know someone in your family who might be, the
> >requirements are a male of at least 16 years of age who naturally
> >bears the CLOYES name - i.e. not adopted . His father or paternal
> >uncle or grandfather, or even a cousin from the male line can be a
> >participant. It has to be a CLOYES father to son line since Y-line
> >DNA is passed from father to son.
> >
> >Most of the participants have wanted to be put in touch with other
> >researchers who have matched them. I have been the middleman for
> >folks that I recruited. Typically if your results matched others,
> >I'd e-mail you with their contact information and you could talk
> >directly to each other. I've kept up with the participants and have
> >put people in touch with each other even years later when new
> >matches have occurred. You can also review the results online to
> >compare your DNA sequence with others. The link below gives you a
> >general background and a sample of tests completed.
> >
> >
> ><http://ourworld.cs.com/CloughGenL/surnames.html>http://ourworld.cs
> .com/CloughGenL/surnames.html
> >
> >Hope to hear from you soon but if you're not interested, I'd
> >appreciate a reply to that effect. Rebecca Clough Harpole from now
> >on I'll sign Becky
> >___________________________________________________________________
> _______________________
> >
>
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>From: rbharpole2(a)aol.com
>
>Hello Tom. I sent you a test message earlier and I'm just now
>getting back to the reason for it. I saw your webpage about the
>Cloyes and some of your information seems to mesh with mine. My
>maiden name was Clough sometimes spelled Clow and a group of
>researchers with similar surnames have participated in a Clough
>surname study with Oxford Ancestors in England. There are close to
>30 participants now and you can view the story at Oxford Ancestors
>webpage at the bottom of the e-mail.
>
>Long story short - one of the DNA participants named Clowes'
>ancestor was from Jamaica, Long Island, New York and prior to that
>was from Derbyshire and Rudyard, Staffordshire. Sometimes their
>family spelled their name Clulow and he seemed to think that he was
>related to the Essex Clowes and Sir John Clois but he hasn't proven
>that link yet.
>
>The reason that I'm interested in your family is that Cloyes is
>awfully darn close to Clois. I know that you said that your Peter
>Cloyse was from Colchester, Essex, England, but the Clowes, etc
>family was massive and spread out all over creation. The particular
>branch from Plaistow, Essex belonged to William Clowes, a physician
>to Queen Elizabeth I. They think their earliest known ancestor was
>Sir John Clois born in the 1400s and I apologize, I can't remember
>specifically where he was from.
>
>I don't know how familiar you are with DNA analysis, but an exact
>match with the same surname indicates the participants are likely of
>the same family. We may never know which member of that family is
>our ancestor, but it can get us to the right family. Genes mutate
>naturally at a predicted rate of every 750 years but they can also
>mutate from father to son. You still need to do regular research to
>find your particular ancestor, but the DNA can give you a definitive
>answer if you're looking at the right family.
>
>My own family of Clough/Clow had one marker different from another
>Clough/Clow family from Maryland and Delaware and it's entirely
>possible that their long lost William Clough born circa 1765 who
>disappeared in 1801 was my 3x great grandfather William Clough, born
>circa 1765 and who appeared in North Carolina in 1801. Until I know
>better, I'm counting that as a father to son mutation. I found an
>obituary from a member of this family which stated that his branch
>was of the Denbigh, Wales family via Scotland and the New York
>Colony. My other closest matches were New York Colony Dutch
>Huguenot CLAUW and CLOW. My family "legend" is that my 3x great
>grandfather William Clough was from England and New England and that
>he was a ship captain. Massachusetts has been mentioned as the
>birthplace of his son, also William Clough and there are hints and
>allegations that tie Maine into the mix. William may have
>originally been named Joseph and changed his name when he went to
>sea. I'll explain more about that later if you're interested.
>
>Incidentally, the CLOWES DNA participant from Long Island is of the
>same CLOWES family in Delaware living suspiciously near to my own
>CLOUGH/CLOW family in Kent County, Delaware.
>
>We use the best known Clough family of Denbighshire, Wales as the
>"standard" for matching other study participants. To give you a
>breakout of the DNA analysis for a few of these:
>
>CLOWES Jamaica, Long Island, NY and Staffordshire, England
>CLUETT Belgium to Northern France and Devon, England 2 markers
>different from CLOWES
>CLOUGH Denbigh, Wales and New England, USA includes John Clough
>Society 2 markers different
>CLOUGH (my family) Denbigh, Wales, Scotland, NY Colony 3 markers different
>
>Would you be interested in participating in the DNA study? You can
>remain anonymous if you choose and be only identified as something
>like Colchester,England/Maine/Massachusetts/Ohio CLOYES. You can
>choose how specific you want your identifier to be.
>
>I would be willing to pay for half of your test since I want to be
>able to compare CLOYES with the other participants. If you are not
>interested, but know someone in your family who might be, the
>requirements are a male of at least 16 years of age who naturally
>bears the CLOYES name - i.e. not adopted . His father or paternal
>uncle or grandfather, or even a cousin from the male line can be a
>participant. It has to be a CLOYES father to son line since Y-line
>DNA is passed from father to son.
>
>Most of the participants have wanted to be put in touch with other
>researchers who have matched them. I have been the middleman for
>folks that I recruited. Typically if your results matched others,
>I'd e-mail you with their contact information and you could talk
>directly to each other. I've kept up with the participants and have
>put people in touch with each other even years later when new
>matches have occurred. You can also review the results online to
>compare your DNA sequence with others. The link below gives you a
>general background and a sample of tests completed.
>
>
><http://ourworld.cs.com/CloughGenL/surnames.html>http://ourworld.cs.com/CloughGenL/surnames.html
>
>Hope to hear from you soon but if you're not interested, I'd
>appreciate a reply to that effect. Rebecca Clough Harpole from now
>on I'll sign Becky
>__________________________________________________________________________________________
>
Becky,
This sounds intriguing, so I'm sending it to our mail list to see if
anyone would be interested. Since someone has brought the subject up
previously, it should generate something.
Regards,
Tom
At 03:31 PM 12/29/2006, you wrote:
>Hello Tom. I sent you a test message earlier and I'm just now
>getting back to the reason for it. I saw your webpage about the
>Cloyes and some of your information seems to mesh with mine. My
>maiden name was Clough sometimes spelled Clow and a group of
>researchers with similar surnames have participated in a Clough
>surname study with Oxford Ancestors in England. There are close to
>30 participants now and you can view the story at Oxford Ancestors
>webpage at the bottom of the e-mail.
>
>Long story short - one of the DNA participants named Clowes'
>ancestor was from Jamaica, Long Island, New York and prior to that
>was from Derbyshire and Rudyard, Staffordshire. Sometimes their
>family spelled their name Clulow and he seemed to think that he was
>related to the Essex Clowes and Sir John Clois but he hasn't proven
>that link yet.
>
>The reason that I'm interested in your family is that Cloyes is
>awfully darn close to Clois. I know that you said that your Peter
>Cloyse was from Colchester, Essex, England, but the Clowes, etc
>family was massive and spread out all over creation. The particular
>branch from Plaistow, Essex belonged to William Clowes, a physician
>to Queen Elizabeth I. They think their earliest known ancestor was
>Sir John Clois born in the 1400s and I apologize, I can't remember
>specifically where he was from.
>
>I don't know how familiar you are with DNA analysis, but an exact
>match with the same surname indicates the participants are likely of
>the same family. We may never know which member of that family is
>our ancestor, but it can get us to the right family. Genes mutate
>naturally at a predicted rate of every 750 years but they can also
>mutate from father to son. You still need to do regular research to
>find your particular ancestor, but the DNA can give you a definitive
>answer if you're looking at the right family.
>
>My own family of Clough/Clow had one marker different from another
>Clough/Clow family from Maryland and Delaware and it's entirely
>possible that their long lost William Clough born circa 1765 who
>disappeared in 1801 was my 3x great grandfather William Clough, born
>circa 1765 and who appeared in North Carolina in 1801. Until I know
>better, I'm counting that as a father to son mutation. I found an
>obituary from a member of this family which stated that his branch
>was of the Denbigh, Wales family via Scotland and the New York
>Colony. My other closest matches were New York Colony Dutch
>Huguenot CLAUW and CLOW. My family "legend" is that my 3x great
>grandfather William Clough was from England and New England and that
>he was a ship captain. Massachusetts has been mentioned as the
>birthplace of his son, also William Clough and there are hints and
>allegations that tie Maine into the mix. William may have
>originally been named Joseph and changed his name when he went to
>sea. I'll explain more about that later if you're interested.
>
>Incidentally, the CLOWES DNA participant from Long Island is of the
>same CLOWES family in Delaware living suspiciously near to my own
>CLOUGH/CLOW family in Kent County, Delaware.
>
>We use the best known Clough family of Denbighshire, Wales as the
>"standard" for matching other study participants. To give you a
>breakout of the DNA analysis for a few of these:
>
>CLOWES Jamaica, Long Island, NY and Staffordshire, England
>CLUETT Belgium to Northern France and Devon, England 2 markers
>different from CLOWES
>CLOUGH Denbigh, Wales and New England, USA includes John Clough
>Society 2 markers different
>CLOUGH (my family) Denbigh, Wales, Scotland, NY Colony 3 markers different
>
>Would you be interested in participating in the DNA study? You can
>remain anonymous if you choose and be only identified as something
>like Colchester,England/Maine/Massachusetts/Ohio CLOYES. You can
>choose how specific you want your identifier to be.
>
>I would be willing to pay for half of your test since I want to be
>able to compare CLOYES with the other participants. If you are not
>interested, but know someone in your family who might be, the
>requirements are a male of at least 16 years of age who naturally
>bears the CLOYES name - i.e. not adopted . His father or paternal
>uncle or grandfather, or even a cousin from the male line can be a
>participant. It has to be a CLOYES father to son line since Y-line
>DNA is passed from father to son.
>
>Most of the participants have wanted to be put in touch with other
>researchers who have matched them. I have been the middleman for
>folks that I recruited. Typically if your results matched others,
>I'd e-mail you with their contact information and you could talk
>directly to each other. I've kept up with the participants and have
>put people in touch with each other even years later when new
>matches have occurred. You can also review the results online to
>compare your DNA sequence with others. The link below gives you a
>general background and a sample of tests completed.
>
>
><http://ourworld.cs.com/CloughGenL/surnames.html>http://ourworld.cs.com/CloughGenL/surnames.html
>
>Hope to hear from you soon but if you're not interested, I'd
>appreciate a reply to that effect. Rebecca Clough Harpole from now
>on I'll sign Becky
>__________________________________________________________________________________________
>