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kmcbrennan(a)aol.com wrote:
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>Surnames: Clover, Culper/Culpepper, Musgrave, Cousins
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>I have a copy of my great aunts family bible, and she has her great great grandmother listed as Hanna Elizabeth Culper Clover. Culpepper was the closest name I could find that was similar, so I thought I would give it a try.
>She has no date of birth or any other family info except her daughter was Zelpha or Zelphina Orlena Clover .
>Zelpha's date of birth is abt 1860 she married March 25 1880 in Howard Co. Arkansas to Quimby Harrison Musgrave b abt 1857 in Arkansas.
> Zelpha appeared in
>1880 Howard Co AR census,
>1910 Pushmataha Co, OK census and
>1920 Pushmataha Co, OK census.
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Did you try CULVER/CULPHER (meaning DOVE used as an endearment) not
uncommon in East Anglia in the UK, where the name CLOVER often derives -
or CULF/CULPH (from an Anglo-Saxon name originally meaning a famous wolf)?
Anthony Clover
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If you are one of the newcomers, please send us all a query. We are all
eager to help. There are several very experienced researchers in the group.
Larry Holland
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Administrator, Clover Family List
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I have extracted the Arkansas Clovers in the 1850-1960-1870 Censuses. However, the only families I have are those which were in the indexes.
I mention this because I have looked through what I have and did not find a Zelpha Clover born ca. 1860 in 1860 or in 1870. I also checked my extracted censuses for Hanna or Elizabeth any age for her mother.
What I did find was a Zelpha Clover female aged 53, born KY, as head of household in 1860 in Clark Co, Sourth Fork Twp. In her household was an Isham Clover, male, age 23, born AR. There was also a Drusilla Clover age 12, born AR.
In 1870, Clark County, Cold Bath Twp, page 269:
Isham Clover 36 farmer AR
Leannah [Hanna maybe?] 36 AR
Sophrina (Zelpha maybe?] 9 AR
John 7 AR
Frances 5 AR
Hendrick 1/12 Feb AR
C. Delpha 60 KY [possibly Delpha C. = Zelpha Clover]
Drusilla 19 AR
I am of the opinion that this is the family you should be researching. The origins of this family are not clear. In the 1850 census, there is a Hendrick Clover, born NC aged 67 with Isham Clover aged 15 AR in the household.There is also a Priscilla. He does not appear to have a wife. I wonder if Zelpha was a second wife. There were several other children.
Hope that this moves you a little farther down the trail. If I can be of further assistance, please contact me personally.
June Byrne junebyr(a)aol.com
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Surnames: Clover, Culper/Culpepper, Musgrave, Cousins
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Message Board Post:
I have a copy of my great aunts family bible, and she has her great great grandmother listed as Hanna Elizabeth Culper Clover. Culpepper was the closest name I could find that was similar, so I thought I would give it a try.
She has no date of birth or any other family info except her daughter was Zelpha or Zelphina Orlena Clover .
Zelpha's date of birth is abt 1860 she married March 25 1880 in Howard Co. Arkansas to Quimby Harrison Musgrave b abt 1857 in Arkansas.
Zelpha appeared in
1880 Howard Co AR census,
1910 Pushmataha Co, OK census and
1920 Pushmataha Co, OK census.