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> I believe his son Erlend was a journalist for the Guardian newspaper
> here in the UK and may now be living in Edinburgh.
>
Mike,
I believe that Erlend does live in Edinburgh and used to write travel
stories for the Guardian. He now runs a hotel with his wife Helene known
simply as "41, Heriot Row" in Edinburgh.
Peter
Mike Clouston wrote:
> I have been given permission by the editor of the Shetland Times
> newspaper to reproduce an obituary to David Clouston who lived and
> worked in Shetland for many years.
>
> I know nothing of this man's family tree, unfortunately, but maybe
> someone will be able to help.
>
> I believe his son Erlend was a journalist for the Guardian newspaper
> here in the UK and may now be living in Edinburgh.
>
> Regards
>
Ooops! One of my senior moments! It would have helped if I had told you
the web site address!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.clouston/davidclouston.htm
--
Mike the forgetful!
I have been given permission by the editor of the Shetland Times
newspaper to reproduce an obituary to David Clouston who lived and
worked in Shetland for many years.
I know nothing of this man's family tree, unfortunately, but maybe
someone will be able to help.
I believe his son Erlend was a journalist for the Guardian newspaper
here in the UK and may now be living in Edinburgh.
Regards
--
Mike Clouston
This is a follow-up of my Nov. 13 note re Margaret Clouston who married in
the Miramichi area of New Brunswick in 1856. I learned from a submission to the
FTM Genealogy Library of a Holmes Family a Margaret Cluston (different
spelling) was daughter of Magnus and Margaret (McKay) Cluston. This apparently was
also in the 1850 census. I think it is my Margaret Clouston. There is
reference to a second marriage in Doaktown, Northumberland County, NB which is where
she lived. If this is accurate information I now have name of her parents.
Has anyone seen this spelling variation? I once saw name Chuston and
eliminated it from consideration.
Mary Catherine in TX
Thanks Peter,
Governor Edward was a bit of a lad and I did wonder about this. He didn't
marry and when he died his estate went to his nephew Robert. Edward and
Isabella however had three of a family so I cannot see how your theory would
have escaped Storer Clouston. Their oldest child was Hary (mad Hary as he
is referred to in stories of Press-gang days.) born in December 1782.
Would be interested in following up your comment about the 'action of
lawburrows' - where did you find this? what source?
Any other thoughts are welcome.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Clouston" <peter(a)tyneside-clouston.co.uk>
To: <CLOUSTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:54 PM
Subject: RE: [CLOUSTON] Edward Clouston
> Hi Alan,
>
> I looked at this marriage last year and got no where. I was trying to
> establish who Edward was because I have an unlikely theory.
>
> This marriage sits there like a ripe plum but no one ever gets close. My
> theory was this;-
>
> Edward Clouston (1759-1810) the youngest son of Robert Clouston and
Margaret
> Isbister of Nisthouse was subjected to an 'action of lawburrows' by an
> Isabella Knarston in 1804. She claimed that
>
> "Edward Clouston, late of the Hudson Bay Company, now residing in
Stromness
> having without any just cause or provocation conceived as deadly malice
and
> ill will to the petitioner yesterday proceeded to vent his hatred against
> her by striking her with his feet and calling her a whore and other
> opprobrious names".
>
> She had married a Captain Andrew Stevenson in 1801. According to Joseph
> Storer Edward never married but there were 'natural children' on record.
> While researching him in Hudson Bay Company records there is an entry
> 'Edward Clouston, his daughter to return home' in 1794 but no further
> details could be found.
>
> There is another connection. In the early days when he was sent on an
> assignment by the HBC, he was accompanied by 6 other men, one of whom was
a
> Thomas Knarston. I looked at this and did find an Isabella Knarston with a
> brother of that name. But again nmothing definite.
>
> Edward originally went to Canada in 1779 but in 1782 was between contracts
> for a while, my theory was that as his father died in 1782 he had returned
> to Orkney that summer and during his time in Orkney married. If you like
> I'll dig out the details of these events but as I say I got nowhere. There
> is apiece about Edward on the tyneside-clouston website in the section on
> the letter.
> http://www.tyneside-clouston.co.uk/clouston_edward.htm which I wrote at
the
> time.
>
> Regards
> Peter
>
>
>
>
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Hi Alan,
I looked at this marriage last year and got no where. I was trying to
establish who Edward was because I have an unlikely theory.
This marriage sits there like a ripe plum but no one ever gets close. My
theory was this;-
Edward Clouston (1759-1810) the youngest son of Robert Clouston and Margaret
Isbister of Nisthouse was subjected to an 'action of lawburrows' by an
Isabella Knarston in 1804. She claimed that
"Edward Clouston, late of the Hudson Bay Company, now residing in Stromness
having without any just cause or provocation conceived as deadly malice and
ill will to the petitioner yesterday proceeded to vent his hatred against
her by striking her with his feet and calling her a whore and other
opprobrious names".
She had married a Captain Andrew Stevenson in 1801. According to Joseph
Storer Edward never married but there were 'natural children' on record.
While researching him in Hudson Bay Company records there is an entry
'Edward Clouston, his daughter to return home' in 1794 but no further
details could be found.
There is another connection. In the early days when he was sent on an
assignment by the HBC, he was accompanied by 6 other men, one of whom was a
Thomas Knarston. I looked at this and did find an Isabella Knarston with a
brother of that name. But again nmothing definite.
Edward originally went to Canada in 1779 but in 1782 was between contracts
for a while, my theory was that as his father died in 1782 he had returned
to Orkney that summer and during his time in Orkney married. If you like
I'll dig out the details of these events but as I say I got nowhere. There
is apiece about Edward on the tyneside-clouston website in the section on
the letter.
http://www.tyneside-clouston.co.uk/clouston_edward.htm which I wrote at the
time.
Regards
Peter
Does anyone have information on the parents of Edward Clouston who married Isobel or Isabella Knarston? They were married 17 Feb 1782 - Orkney (Firth & Stenness). They had three children Hary, Marjory and John. Any suggestions welcomed.
Alan
It has always been presumed that Thomas Clouston (1823-1904) was the eldest
son of Thomas Clouston (1791-1863) and Elizabeth Clark who married on
Tyneside in 1815 (Thomas senior was born in Stromness). This was because his
place of birth in census returns was North Shields and the year was always
1823/24. However...
Thomas married Barbara Kennedy in 1853 and a descendent of their daughter
Isabella Kennedy Clouston (1854-1912). Yes the family in the story, asked me
to obtain the marriage cert of her gg grandparents. It arrived this morning
and Thomas gives his fathers name as William Clouston, Mariner not the
expected Thomas.
This suggests that his parents were William Clouston and Isabella Clouston
(Married 15 Feb 1812) as they had a child Thomas baptized 26 Jan 1823
according to the OPR's in Stromness. There were several other children
including a William (25 Feb 1821) there is also a James (16 Jan 1825
possibly a twin to Margaret Allen), Elizabeth Inkst. (1830), Janet (1818),
Isabella (1817) Spence? (1814) and a John (1812) there was also another
William (1816).
I have records for a William marriage on Tyneside in 1848 and also James in
1846 that have never been properly accounted for. Is this the missing
Tyneside family I have long suspected but never been able to pin down
because they were all Mariners.
If anyone can help me with this family I'd be very grateful. Thomas's place
of residence in 1853 is given as Stromness.
Peter Clouston
As a new list postings are fairly quiet. So I thought I'd post a little
story - I hope you enjoy it.
About 3 years ago I was contacted by a lady researching the Surname 'Main'
she wanted to know if I knew of Isabella Kennedy CLOUSTON (born 1854). I
replied to her that I did and sent the details of her parents and
grandparents. Her parents were Thomas CLOUSTON (1823-1904) and Barbara
Russell Kennedy. The enquirer told me that Isabella had married a John Main
in 1879 and in the early 1890's they had emigrated to Canada. After that
the contact between ceased, I filed the correspondence and forgot it.
In August of this year an American lady enquired whether I knew of any
connection between a Thomas Russell Kennedy Oats and Barbara, Isabella's
mother. I didn't and wrote back accordingly. I filed the email and forgot
about it. 2 Weeks later I received an enquiry about John MAIN from an
Australian woman. I replied as I had earlier.
In September I had an enquiry about Isabella from a lady in Barbados, Linda,
about John and Isabella. I replied that I knew they had emigrated to Canada
and I knew Isabella's ancestors for a couple of generations. I expected to
file and forget but within 30 minutes I received a second email - Linda was
the Great Grand-daughter of John and Isabella. One thing then led to another
and in the past few weeks we have found the following.
The lady in Northumberland who first contacted me is the grand-daughter of
John MAIN's brother Robert. The American is the great grand-daughter of
Isabella's Aunt, Ellen Elizabeth Kennedy sister in law of Thomas Clouston.
The Australian is the great great grand-daughter of John's Grand Uncle. So
it turns out that the lady's are 2nd, 3rd and 4th cousins with various
combinations.
I've taken to calling the women 'The Witches of Endor' and it's all been
possible because Isabella named her son and Linda's Grandfather, Thomas
Clouston Main, after her father. Thomas kept notes all his life here is what
Linda wrote from his notes.
John Main left for Canada in 1892. Isabella [Kennedy Clouston] and her four
children, Barbara, Robert - who was an invalid due to a bad fall down their
back stone steps at about four years old- , Russell and Thomas followed in
May 1893. Uncle Kennedy Clouston [Isabella's brother] accompanied them on
the train from Newcastle to Liverpool where he put them on board the Cunard
Liner bound for Quebec, City. Ten days later they docked and boarded a train
that traveled via Montreal, Toronto, Fort William, Winnipeg, Regina,
Medicine Hat to Calgary. They then transferred to another train heading to
McLeod - the end of their rail journey. Thomas and Russell, being young,
adventurous lads enjoyed the trip but Isabella, with Barbara's assistance,
spent this difficult journey caring for young Robert who could not walk and
the jerky motion of the train jarred his hip causing him great pain. He had
to be carried to the washroom several times a day, food had to be purchased
at points suggested by the trainmen and tea had to be made and meals served
etc. Isabella's telegram to John did not reach him in time to meet the train
in McLeod and of course Isabella was very disappointed and annoyed with
this. The family slept in a one room shack, on a tarp on the floor with some
blankets to keep them warm. The next morning at 10am father Main arrived
driving a lumber wagon with a "fine" pair of Clydesdale horses. Isabella,
Barbara, and Robert traveled by stage coach to Pincher Creek that afternoon
while John, Russell, and Thomas rode the long, 33 mile, journey to Pincher
Creek, with their luggage in the lumber wagon. They arrived in Pincher Creek
just after midnight May 29th, 1893. The family spent the first couple of
days in the village and on the third day drove the lumber wagon out to the
Hodgkins ranch where they spent the night. The next morning the family moved
in to the newly erected "slab" stable. Isabella must have been shocked with
her circumstances. The stable was about 25'x40' with no floors or windows.
There was no house yet on their 160 acres of Prairie land. They slept on a
pile of hay on the bare floor, cooked on a wood stove and made a table to
eat off of from old, rough board. There was a well about 125" from the barn
along with a log henhouse and a one seater outside privy. These structures
plus a sizeable rail corral entered by a fairly respectable gate were all
the improvements that had been made. John Main had named their ranch,
Flatworth after Isabella's mother's family estate in England. By the time
Isabella and the children arrive in Alberta John Main had spent the sizable
amount of money he had brought with him. Fortunately for the family Isabella
was a wise business woman with a lot of Scottish common sense and she had
refrained from giving John Main the entire family savings before he left so
she arrived in Canada with funds and her furniture and began the task making
a good life for her family. Apparently John Main was very loath to submit to
this change of management and so the family was divided in to two camps for
the next two years - Father versus the rest of the family. The family house
was built and the family moved in to it in early October. Young Robert died
a year after reaching Canada. Kennedy, the youngest member of the family,
was born in Pincher Creek in 1894. By 1895 the entire family savings were
gone and John Main left Canada for San Francisco intending to return to his
profession of marine engineer and it was many years before the family saw
him again. Isabella Clouston was left to raise her family in the "promised
land"
John Main did eventually return to Pinchers Creek, his son was asked to send
the money for his passage from somewhere in the Caribbean, but after
Isabella's death in 1912. He died in 1926, appearently while making his was
from the house to the outhouse in a snowstorm. He was found frozen the next
morning. Isabella it seems raised her family on her own in a strange
country.
I've been looking at the lives of some of these amazing Clouston women. If
anyone is interested I'll prepare something from my notes on Rachel Clouston
(Australian Army Nursing Service) daughter of the Reverend Thomas Clouston
and Rachel Welsh. I haven't finished my research but she is also an amazing
woman.
My reward, apart from the extra knowledge I've gained. A holiday in Barbados
in 2005 at a Main family reunion.
Regards
Peter
Mike,
If you have 5 minutes would you see if Christiana appears in the 1851 Census
for Stromness. In December 1860 she married Joseph Matthew Clouston
(1824-1904) in Newcastle Upon Tyne, but so far I have not found any earlier
records on Tyneside. In subsequent census returns she always gives her place
of birth as Stromness. The OPR's contain a christening for a Christiana
Campbell Smith, daughter of Edward Smith and Isabella Campbell born 17 Feb
1830 and christened 11th March 1830, but the Campbell part never appears in
any Tyneside records.
Edward Smith (1800-1864) was the son of William Smith and Margaret Rich,
widower of Isabella Campbell. His parents had a daughter Janet born 1793 who
married Robert Clouston. If this Robert is Robert (1786-1856) born Newcastle
Upon Tyne, then this could be the first definite link between the two
brothers.
On the Leith question posted earlier this week. I have only the records
given. Richard Clouston and Elspet Leith had 4 children as far as I know.
Regards
Peter
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Clouston is not my main line, but I am very interested in a certain Thomas LEITH and Margaret CLOUSTON, married in 1723, parish STENNESS. The family I have for them is: James b 1732, Margaret born 1736, David born 1741 and Isobel born 1744. I wonder if anyone has any information on this family? Especilly what children they might have had between 1723 and 1732.
Thomas Leith's sister Elspeth married a Richard Clouston, but whether he was a brother or cousin to Margaret I do not know.
Hi, First I would like to thank Mike for making this possible.
My Great Grandfather, William Clouston, was born in 1846 or 1847 in Stromness. Wife May Buchan born 1843 in Stennes. Married March 10, 1868. I think they had 6 children, all born in Stromness:
William Alexander b.March 9, 1869
James Robertson b. May 21, 1871
Jessie b. May 21, 1871 was MY GRANDMOTHER
John b.April 29,1873
Thomas b. 1887 SHOULD BE 1878
Andrew b. 1881
My grandmother married James Gorie Johnston April 16, 1896.
Thank you. Edna from British Columbia, Canada
Hi, First I would like to thank Mike for making this possible.
My Great Grandfather, William Clouston, was born in 1846 or 1847 in Stromness. Wife May Buchan born 1843 in Stennes. Married March 10, 1868. I think they had 6 children, all born in Stromness:
William Alexander b.March 9, 1869
James Robertson b. May 21, 1871
Jessie b. May 21, 1871 was MY GRANDMOTHER
John b.April 29,1873
Thomas b. 1887
Andrew b. 1881
My grandmother married James Gorie Johnston April 16, 1896.
Thank you. Edna from British Columbia, Canada
Hello,
I have a Margaret Clouston born between 1834 - 1836 in New Brunswick, Canada.
She married Nelson Betts in Northumberland County, New Brunswick on August
26, 1856. Her son, Magnus Betts, born March 12, 1870 was my grandfather. I
don't have any other information.
Mary Catherine in Texas
From little acorns tall oaks grow!
There are now 14 of us subscribed to this group. You are all very welcome.
Now it is up to you. Post your Clouston interests - anything at all
really as long as it is vaguely Clouston related.
I don't intend to moderate this group in any way - I'm sure my
intervention won't be necessary - unless things get really out of hand :-)
I look forward to reading your posts and maybe being able to answer one
or two queries.
By the way, I have the 1841 census for the whole of Orkney available. It
is a hand-written document containing some 30,000+ names and is not
computerised in any way. I am happy to do the occasional search provided
you know which parish you want me to look in. I've got all the Clouston
entries highlighted so it should be a fairly easy task to find most
Clouston names.
I also have the book produced by the church in Stromness giving details
of every legible gravestone in all three sections of Stromness Kirkyard.
Again I have highlighted all Clouston names so look-ups won't be too
difficult.
It's now over to you, folks. This group will only succeed provided it
gets input from its subscribers, so let's be hearing from you :-)
Best wishes to you all, and thanks for your support.
--
Mike Clouston