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Author: armstrong22241
Surnames: Clouse Woodhouse Keeling Moore Sanford
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Hi, Lori. I have Sarah Woodhouse, daughter of Henry Woodhouse and Sarah Keeling, with three husbands also. Are these the three you have and dated approximately the same also?
1st Cason Moore, m. abt. 1678
2nd John Sanford/Sandeford/Sandiford, m. btwn. 1678-1688
3rd William Cloues/Clous/Cloyse/Clouse, m. abt 1694
Do you know if Susannah and Margaret were offspring of one of these other two, and if so, which? I have not seen the estate papers myself, so don't know if they were listed by first name only or what.
Maybe some of the "Pennsylvania" Clouses will recognize one of these other surnames as neighbors or have other family intermarriages. That would at least provide a link for them to Phettiplace, even if it doesn't help the "Tennessee" Clouses get there (yet)!
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Author: jamclo
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Several of my Clouse ancestors are mentioned by Ms. Franklin but their connection to the Virginia and Tennessee Clouse's are still undocumented.
Regards,
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Author: lkusneri
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Susannah and margaret were sarah moore's daughters before marrying william. He died about about 5 yrs after they married and they were very young, calling him father. Still doesnt prove they were related to us.
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Author: armstrong22241
Surnames: Clouse
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Not to disagree, but the Book of Remembrance of the Clouse Clan, copyright 1995 by Della P. "Pat" Franklin, actually begins with "Chapter 1, A brief outline of the life of George Clouse I, our common ancestor." The very first sentence is, "The name of the parents and the birthplace and birthdate of George Clouse I is unknown."
Ms. Franklin does have a chapter in the book (Chapter 10), entitled "Christopher Clouse, Sr. of Pennsylvania." On the Table of Contents page, Ms. Franklin also notes for this chapter that he is believed to be a brother of George Clouse I. However, there is nothing contained within the chapter that explains why she thinks so, other than the similarity of the names of his children and those of George Clouse I.
On page 562 of the book, Ms. Franklin gives some information about Phettiplace Clouse and his son, William Cloys (relationship documented in a land transaction). Ms. Franklin points out that this son, William, died in Princess Anne County, Virginia, in 1699 and left a large estate. She says that no sons were listed in the estate papers, although two daughters were (Susannah and Margaret). Ms. Franklin offers no other discussion on descendants of Phettiplace or his son, William.
I think that we Clouses must be very careful in passing on information without sources. While it is very possible that Thomas 1710-1743 descended from William and Phettiplace, there does not appear to be any information documenting this lineage. Nor does there appear to be any documentation available that shows that Christopher Clouse of PA and George Clouse of VA/TN were brothers, though it is also very possible and even likely.
Ms. Franklin generally did an excellent job researching the various descendants of George Clouse I. However, she did make errors on two of the sons, George II and Aaron. It is certainly possible that other errors were made as well, particularly since the bulk of her book concerns her own line from George I through his son John. For obvious reasons, this was her focus, not the other descendants.
Information was also not as readily available 15 years ago. I believe that Ms. Franklin traveled extensively and penned many letters to obtain the information she provides us. We should be very appreciative of her work but read no more into it than what is there, and even check it when sources are not listed. As informative as her book is, it is not a primary source. But it does give us excellent places to start our own research.
I will point out again that the first sentence in the book tells us what Ms. Franklin thought herself of the origins of George Clouse I: the names of the parents and birthplace and birthdate of George Clouse I are unknown.
Don't mean to be so preachy. I'd love to find out differently from anyone who knows otherwise - so if someone out there knows, please share!
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Author: luaclause
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Were you able to see the A Remberence of the Clouse family when it was posted the other day? That begins talking about when the Clouses left Pennsylvannia and went to Tennessee. I have only read the first couple of pages, as it is HUGE but it may hold alot of answers.
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Author: FrancesGreen14
Surnames: Clouse
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I am confused does this add to or stop the debate about Phettiplace Clouse. And how did they get to Ohio, Indiann, Pennslyvania, etc. I am related to the Clouse through Maraget Little who married a Clouse. My mother's first husband married Benjamin Martin Clouse. He was my two sisters and 1 brother's father.
Frances K
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Author: lkusneri
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do you have a tree somewhere? The message boards are crazy to try and follow.......
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Author: lkusneri
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do you have a tree somewhere? The message boards are crazy to try and follow.......
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Author: luaclause
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Thank you so much. This is a link I had needed.
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Author: lkusneri
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Hi cathy, I am probably your cousin here in Tx. I have just begun the family tree thing and found all the info, book, articles, etc. I am obsessing over this all like a puzzle. Do you think phettiplace is related? I found someone had posted a land record identying his son william cloys. One tree had one William msrried to sarah moore and she traces back to 1300. I wish it were all true. I would love to research with you.
Lori in Galveston
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Author: FrancesGreen14
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I looked for the "Rememberance of the Clouse Clan" it was not on this site.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I will save this for future use.
Frances K
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Author: FrancesGreen14
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dona:
e-mail address is ceili4(a)hotmail.com
thanks frances k
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Author: donsanders1948
Surnames: clouse, sanders
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clouse book
http://www.4shared.com/file/iWedog8D/Book_Of_Rememberance_Of_The_Cl.html
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Author: FrancesGreen14
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Check the message board donsanders185 down loaded The Clouse Rememberance book and I just downloaded it also.
Will have to wait until tomorrow to start reading it but WOW what a guy for doing this for us.
Frances K
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Author: FrancesGreen14
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donsanders:
I DID IT!!!
THANKS A BUNCH. I CAN NOT WAIT TO READ IT.
Is it alright to share it if I can. Someone else in the Clouse Clan is looking for this also.
YOU ARE AWSOME
Frances K
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Author: KENNELLYMARKA
Surnames: Clouse,Coulson,Emenheiser,Stambaugh,
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Ryan M. Clouse, age 25, of Mount Wolf, died Sunday, Feb. 6, 2011 at Memorial Hospital in York.
He was born Monday, Sept. 30, 1985 in Gettysburg, the son of J. Michael and wife Rebecca Clouse of Biglerville and Kitty M. (Coulson) Heisey of Mt. Wolf.
He is survived by one daughter, Chloie Ann Clouse of Fairfield; one sister, Tia M. and husband Zachary Emenheiser of Red Lion; two brothers, Kyle B. Clouse of Biglerville and Dustin M. Clouse of Mount Wolf. He is also survived by his paternal grandparents, John P. Clouse of Carlisle and Elmira R. Stambaugh of Gardners.
Funeral services will be held at 1 p.m. Friday, Feb. 11, at the Dugan Funeral Home, Inc., Bendersville. Interment will be in Wenksville Cemetery. A viewing will be held at the funeral home on Thursday, from 6 to 8 p.m. Professional services are being handled by Dugan Funeral Home, Inc., 111 South Main St., Bendersville.
Memorial contributions may be made to Chloie Ann Clouse Educational Fund, 515 Wenksville Road, Biglerville, Pa. 17307.
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Author: FrancesGreen14
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No, I didn't but will keep trying.
Frances K
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