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Dear Cousins,
Has anyone looked up John Clough and Jane (Joanna/Jone) in the Charlestown,
MA, Vital Records prior to 1850? John arrived aboard the Elizabeth
Charlestown, MA. He could have married there. Could the marriage of our John and Jane
be in these records? Has anyone looked?
Your cousin,
Linda F.
Dear Cousins,
Weren't John and Jane (aka Jone/Joanna in the Salisbury, MA, Vital Records)
CLOUGH's children born in old Norfolk County and not Essex County in the
Massachusetts Bay Colony? Everywhere I read about their birthplaces, Salisbury,
Essex County, MA, is mentioned (which is correct in the present only), yet
originally, Salisbury was part of Norfolk County in the Massachusetts Bay Colony.
Please read:
Norfolk County history:
"By 1643, the Massachusetts Bay Colony's administration had expanded
northward to include settlements in what are now New Hampshire and Maine. The
Massachusetts General Court, in 1643, established four counties, then called shires,
for settling legal cases, and denominated those counties Essex, Middlesex,
Suffolk, and Norfolk. In the course of time other counties were formed throughout
the territory.
The Norfolk County of 1643 (old Norfolk County) was an entirely different
geographic area from the present Norfolk County. Located north of the Merrimac
River, Old Norfolk included Haverhill, Salisbury, and Amesbury, and what are now
the New Hampshire communities of Dover, Exeter, Hampton, and Portsmouth (then
called Strawberry Bank).
Under the 1643 division, Suffolk County, with its shire town (county seat) at
Boston, included all of the territory comprising the present Norfolk County.
In 1679, New Hampshire was made a separate royal province, removing the
northerly towns of Norfolk County. The following year (1680) the General Court of
Massachusetts ordered that Salisbury, Haverhill, and Amesbury be incorporated
into Essex County. By this order "Old Norfolk County" passed out of
existence."
Source: http://www.norfolkcounty.org/history.html
Here's more:
"'Old' Norfolk County, as first incorporated, included all the original
territory of Suffolk, except for towns of Boston and Chelsa. On May 10, 1643, the
Colony of Massachusetts Bay was divided into four counties; Essex, Middlesex,
Suffolk and Norfolk.
Thus Norfolk County originally had the towns of Haverhill, Salisbury,
Hampton, Exeter, Dover and Portsmouth.
Hampton, Exeter, Dover and Portsmouth were set off to New Hampshire with
state separation in 1680.
Haverhill and Salisbury were sent back to Essex County on 4 Feb 1680 and the
original County of Norfolk ceased to exist. Probate and deed records for
Haverhill and Salisbury are located in the Essex County Courthouse.
(The new) Norfolk County was created in 1793 from Suffolk County. The county
seat is Dedham. Norfolk County is located in eastern Massachusetts."
Source: http://www.negenealogy.com/ma/ma_county/no.htm
So, what I ascertain from all this (and please correct me if I am wrong), is
that prior to 4 Feb 1680, Salisbury was part first of the Shire of Norfolk,
and later old Norfolk County, both of which were part of the Massachusetts Bay
Colony. Because all of John CLOUGH's children were born prior to 1680 (and
some of his grandchildren), their birthplace should correctly be stated as being
Salisbury, Norfolk County, Massachusetts Bay Colony (depending on when the
Shire became a County).
What do you think?
Your cousin,
Linda
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Message Board Post:
I am seeking information about Norman Clough, son of Arland Arthur Clough of Kansas City, Mo.and grand son of Ira Clough He was my uncle, half brother to my mother Ruth Maxine Clough Sharp. Iam seeking any relatives of Norman Clough who would be about 90 today..
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