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Author: maryachtrh
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Appears in "The Wapanucak Press" 18 September 1902 Wapanucks, Johnston County, Indian Territory, now Oklahoma
Joseph Cloud, a Cherokee Indian was killed at Bunch, I. T., by Large Christe in a quarrel over a jug of whisky. This is the fourth man Christe has killed.
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I was looking for variations of the BUMSTEAD surname and thought I'd take a look at variations of the CLOUD surname. I keep finding the same old stuff that says it is a derivative of the McCLEOD surname -- which isn't supported by any facts I know of.
So, I looked at some variants I know of -- CLOUD / CLOUDE / CLOWD / CLAUD
... and the CLAUD name looked interesting. This site wants us all to think our surname has a coat of arms -- but their information on the surname is interesting -- and it reinforces some other information we have.
http://www.houseofnames.com/fc.asp?sId=&s=claud
Claud Family Crest and Name History
Origin Displayed: French
Spelling variations of this family name include: Clot, Claude, Cloux, Claudet, Clausel, Glaude, Claud, Claudel, Claudin and many more.
First found in the region of Languedoc where they held many lands and estates.
Some of the first settlers of this family name or some of its variants were: Claude Claude who arrived in Quebec in 1647; Philipe Claud who arrived in Virginia in 1705; Joachim Claude who settled in Louisiana in 1715; J. Clausel who settled in New Orleans in 1842.
?? Have any of you observed any of these variants being used by our people?
thanks,
Tom Cloud
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Lorraine and all looking for Morton Cloud,
Your query got me started looking ...
It ended up with my researching all Clouds born in New Jersey. Please see if this page is any help to you:
- http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/NJ/census1.php
This is a listing (actually, two lists) of Clouds who are listed as born in NJ from the 1860, 1870, 1880 and 1900 censuses. The lists include links to the people in the data at mykindred.com.
Your Morton Cloud is at:
http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I134801&tree=mykindr...
... or you can use the Search function.
Why can't I find any record of death for any of the children of Daniel P. Cloud (Morton's father)? Irwin Packer Cloud (1881), Morton Cloud (1888) and Aubrey Cloud (1890) -- you'd think at least one would show up on the SSDI ?? Have I missed them somehow?
I encourage anyone interested in the Cloud family to:
1 - join the Cloud email forum at rootsweb
.... send an email to CLOUD-REQUEST(a)ROOTSWEB.COM with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject and/or the body of the message. The traffic there is minimal and the people are friendly and helpful.
2 - consider joining the Cloud Family Association:
... http://mykindred.com/cloud/
3 - consider joining the Cloud DNA Project
... http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/
Please write me at webmaster at mykindred.com (put an @ in place of the word " at ") and help me add to the information for your family. You will also find information at Ken Cloud's site -- http://cloudweb.org/
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I have found our Indian connection. After more than 20 years and at least that many people searching, it has finally come to light that our Cloud family MARRIED INTO native American blood. My Joseph F. Cloud married Nancy Cox. I now have documentation showing that their grandchildren are listed on the Siler Cherokee Rolls. Upon reading their applications, they referenced their Cherokee blood comes from their GRANDMOTHER, Nancy Cox, and NOT from their grandfather, Joseph F. Cloud. No WONDER we couldn't find anything....we were all looking down the wrong line....figures.....
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I have found our Indian connection. After more than 20 years and at least that many people searching, it has finally come to light that our Cloud family MARRIED INTO native American blood. My Joseph F. Cloud married Nancy Cox. I now have documentation showing that their grandchildren are listed on the Siler Cherokee Rolls. Upon reading their applications, they referenced their Cherokee blood comes from their GRANDMOTHER, Nancy Cox, and NOT from their grandfather, Joseph F. Cloud. No WONDER we couldn't find anything....we were all looking down the wrong line....figures.....
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Author: jkt54
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I have found our Indian connection. After more than 20 years and at least that many people searching, it has finally come to light that our Cloud family MARRIED INTO native American blood. My Joseph F. Cloud married Nancy Cox. I now have documentation showing that their grandchildren are listed on the Siler Cherokee Rolls. Upon reading their applications, they referenced their Cherokee blood comes from their GRANDMOTHER, Nancy Cox, and NOT from their grandfather, Joseph F. Cloud. No WONDER we couldn't find anything....we were all looking down the wrong line....figures.....
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Author: LorraineMaccherone
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I also have been told that our Cloud family has Indian roots. My Daniel Cloud died in NJ but we think there are ties to Delaware. I can't seem to find the link in NJ. My Grandfather was Morton W. Cloud who lived in KY. I know he had 3 Sons from 3 different women. We wondered around some before staying in KY. My gggrandfather is Joseph Cloud. I think we are all missing an important link somewhere that connects these Clouds not to Susan & James Cloud, but to our Indian Clouds.
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Thanks, Tom, for calling this book to our attention - obviously, the
author isn't "on the ball" in spite of his name!!!!
I imagine his statement on the reason some people enter the search
for ancestors is true in a small percentage of the searchers - but
certainly not the majority of us.
I began my quest for my ancestral history basically out of curiosity
and to have something interesting to do after I retired in 1985. I
first took a night course at SMU taught by Lloyd Bockstruh who heads
the Genealogy Library in Dallas, and then spent many hours at the
library and on the internet searching for data. My deceased mother-
in-law had left a lot of genealogical work she had done, and we had
many pictures and letters from both sides of the family. I'm still
looking - for Campbell ancestors in Donegal on my mother's side; for
a Moses Munholland from North Carolina on my wife's side; for Mary
Pace (whose tombstone supposedly has both an English name and an
Indian name although I haven't seen it) who married Zephaniah Coody,
my ggggrandfather on my father's side; etc. All of this is simply
curiosity and a mental exercise.
Perhaps the most important thing my search has done is to make
contact with relatives I might otherwise have never known, AND TO
MEET AND EXCHANGE INFORMATION WITH A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
INTERESTED IN THE SAME THING.
So, keep up the good work and thanks again from Al Cloud.
Tom,
Great!
Cec
in response to what Tom Cloud wrote:
> Dear cousins,
>
> Most of you probably aren't aware of it but recently DNA for genealogical purposes has gotten a bit of bad press, both on TV, in magazines and now in a book.
>
> Here is a link to a review of the book "The Genetic Strand"
> http://www.rootstelevision.com/blogs/megans-rootsworld/2007/11/the_geneti...
>
> One thing the author writes is:
>
> "Genealogy, a search for family history, is practiced by millions of middle-aged and middle class Americans, for whom it has traditionally been a way to snatch a bit of glory or a helping of a fantasy from the past. It is, after all, the little activities, visiting libraries and surfing Web sites, that allow one to acquire "good genes." Most people who do family research are white, and most of them look for ancestors with the goal to unearth the whitest, most moneyed forebears they can. That is one definition of good genes."
>
> Sounds to me like the author has a bit of a personal "attitudinal" problem, besides being a bit of a racist.
>
> Please allow me to set the record straight -- a lot of the bad press is correct! (but not the diatribe by the author above)
>
> Here are some examples:
>
> 1 - DNA only traces a very small part of one's ancestry.
>
> True -- Y-DNA traces only the paternal ancestry and mtDNA only traces the maternal ancestry. That leaves out all the other ancestors in between.
>
> Now that this limitation is understood -- so what? Courthouses only have limited records of our ancestors (birth, marriage, death, probate, etc) and some of those records are missing or incorrect. IOW, DNA is just another tool and it has its usefulness and its limitations. (BTW, DNA doesn't give incorrect information like a human-transcribed document can.)
>
>
> 2 - DNA doesn't identify anyone.
>
> True -- it only points to a group of people to whom you might be related.
>
> Some testing companies are advertising they can identify a tribe one came from (these are aimed at people of African ancestry or Native American ancestry). This is balderdash, and those companies ought to be sued out of existence.
>
>
> 3 - DNA companies make promises that can't be delivered.
>
> Partially true (see #2 above). The leading companies are very clear in their literature about what to expect from the test results. Some people either don't read what they say or they only "hear" what they want to hear and then get upset when the tests don't satisfy what they imagined they would.
>
>
> It has always been my intent and my policy to tell it straight:
>
> A - I originally thought DNA was a very promising tool -- and, now that we're using it, it has proven to be more than promising. It is obvious it is a VALUABLE and very POWERFUL tool -- assuming you don't try to use a hammer as a screwdriver (IOW, use the tool properly).
>
>
> B - It isn't a panacea -- it has limitations. The principal techniques (Y-DNA and mtDNA) only trace the "outer" lines of the ancestral "Vee", and mtDNA isn't as effective for genealogical purposes as Y-DNA.
>
>
> C - Be careful about implying too much from the "ancestral origins" aspect -- almost all of our group are R1b1, which is said to have ancient origins in Western Europe, but that doesn't mean our ancient Cloud ancestor lived there ... and so what if he did? We're not likely to have much use for knowing where our ancestor of 25,000 years ago lived. This is a topic for anthropologists and not genealogists. We're interested in more recent history -- especially since the advent of language and writing <grin>.
>
>
> D - Finding out that your Cloud lineage is R1b1 does not mean you're NOT of Native American heritage (a favorite topic). If you go back 5 generations, you have 32 3rd great grandparents (assuming no intermarriage). The DNA only tests the lineage for one of those 32 people (or 2, if you do both tests). All the rest of them could be Native American and it wouldn't show up in the DNA test! You might be 31/32 native American and your Cloud Y-DNA would still show you as being in the R1b1 haplogroup, descended from a person who lived in Western Europe.
>
>
> Bottom line -- I want everything out in the open. There is bad press, but it's distorted truth in most of the cases, and well-deserved in the case of the (con artist) companies promising to tell people what tribe they descended from in Africa.
>
> DNA is very valuable to us in tracing our Cloud lineage and in helping us find which branch of the Cloud family our brick-wall ancestor belongs to. We have chosen the leading company in the field to do our testing and they have no record of exaggeration or false promises.
>
> If you have any questions, please write me at clouddna(a)mykindred.com or go to the Cloud DNA Project website at http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ .
>
> thanks,
> Tom Cloud
> Cloud DNA Project Administrator
>
> ===========================================
> Share your Cloud family history here.
> Join the Cloud Family Association
> http://mykindred.com/cloud/
> (The Cloud Family Association was formed in 1978 by members of the Cloud family.
> It is our family organization and it is not affiliated with any commercial enterprise, or with rootsweb or Ancestry in any way.)
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CLOUD-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>
>
> .
>
>
Dear cousins,
Most of you probably aren't aware of it but recently DNA for genealogical purposes has gotten a bit of bad press, both on TV, in magazines and now in a book.
Here is a link to a review of the book "The Genetic Strand"
http://www.rootstelevision.com/blogs/megans-rootsworld/2007/11/the_geneti...
One thing the author writes is:
"Genealogy, a search for family history, is practiced by millions of middle-aged and middle class Americans, for whom it has traditionally been a way to snatch a bit of glory or a helping of a fantasy from the past. It is, after all, the little activities, visiting libraries and surfing Web sites, that allow one to acquire "good genes." Most people who do family research are white, and most of them look for ancestors with the goal to unearth the whitest, most moneyed forebears they can. That is one definition of good genes."
Sounds to me like the author has a bit of a personal "attitudinal" problem, besides being a bit of a racist.
Please allow me to set the record straight -- a lot of the bad press is correct! (but not the diatribe by the author above)
Here are some examples:
1 - DNA only traces a very small part of one's ancestry.
True -- Y-DNA traces only the paternal ancestry and mtDNA only traces the maternal ancestry. That leaves out all the other ancestors in between.
Now that this limitation is understood -- so what? Courthouses only have limited records of our ancestors (birth, marriage, death, probate, etc) and some of those records are missing or incorrect. IOW, DNA is just another tool and it has its usefulness and its limitations. (BTW, DNA doesn't give incorrect information like a human-transcribed document can.)
2 - DNA doesn't identify anyone.
True -- it only points to a group of people to whom you might be related.
Some testing companies are advertising they can identify a tribe one came from (these are aimed at people of African ancestry or Native American ancestry). This is balderdash, and those companies ought to be sued out of existence.
3 - DNA companies make promises that can't be delivered.
Partially true (see #2 above). The leading companies are very clear in their literature about what to expect from the test results. Some people either don't read what they say or they only "hear" what they want to hear and then get upset when the tests don't satisfy what they imagined they would.
It has always been my intent and my policy to tell it straight:
A - I originally thought DNA was a very promising tool -- and, now that we're using it, it has proven to be more than promising. It is obvious it is a VALUABLE and very POWERFUL tool -- assuming you don't try to use a hammer as a screwdriver (IOW, use the tool properly).
B - It isn't a panacea -- it has limitations. The principal techniques (Y-DNA and mtDNA) only trace the "outer" lines of the ancestral "Vee", and mtDNA isn't as effective for genealogical purposes as Y-DNA.
C - Be careful about implying too much from the "ancestral origins" aspect -- almost all of our group are R1b1, which is said to have ancient origins in Western Europe, but that doesn't mean our ancient Cloud ancestor lived there ... and so what if he did? We're not likely to have much use for knowing where our ancestor of 25,000 years ago lived. This is a topic for anthropologists and not genealogists. We're interested in more recent history -- especially since the advent of language and writing <grin>.
D - Finding out that your Cloud lineage is R1b1 does not mean you're NOT of Native American heritage (a favorite topic). If you go back 5 generations, you have 32 3rd great grandparents (assuming no intermarriage). The DNA only tests the lineage for one of those 32 people (or 2, if you do both tests). All the rest of them could be Native American and it wouldn't show up in the DNA test! You might be 31/32 native American and your Cloud Y-DNA would still show you as being in the R1b1 haplogroup, descended from a person who lived in Western Europe.
Bottom line -- I want everything out in the open. There is bad press, but it's distorted truth in most of the cases, and well-deserved in the case of the (con artist) companies promising to tell people what tribe they descended from in Africa.
DNA is very valuable to us in tracing our Cloud lineage and in helping us find which branch of the Cloud family our brick-wall ancestor belongs to. We have chosen the leading company in the field to do our testing and they have no record of exaggeration or false promises.
If you have any questions, please write me at clouddna(a)mykindred.com or go to the Cloud DNA Project website at http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ .
thanks,
Tom Cloud
Cloud DNA Project Administrator
This isn't about the author's attitude about DNA. This is about the
assumption that anyone who is interested in genealogy is searching only
because they want to find someone who is either rich or famous they can
connect with. I very STRONGLY disagree with that.
The majority of people interested in genealogy just enjoy the challenge and
the good feeling you get as you get to know your families of the past.
You have a new self image......your families of the past had some ornery
characters, but also many, ordinary people who were strong and faced so much
and came through.......the proof is that you are here.
I don't know how to express myself very well, but I have a very strong
reaction to what the author expresses. How sad.
Ellen Crawford....proud descendant of Jeremiah Cloud of Georgia, Alabama and
Texas.
Tom,Ken, I'm Randy Cloud kit # 39042. I've been with you since the
start, cousin, I'm all mutated out. ha ha. My question is what are the 140
names on our recent DNA, is that average,+ or -, And who is Ratray? The DNA
says if you match all, you are related before surnames. WoW. I e-mailed
Ratray In Canada and he says that he has a lot of clouds in his DNA. WoW. So
what's up with this Your cousin Randy.
Randy,
The names you are seeing are people who match your DNA profile/signature.
Our particular haplogroup -- R1b1 -- is known to occasionally have matches for people who share no common ancestor within perhaps thousands of years. That means you need to not rely completely on the DNA signature. Other things are needed to confirm a relationship ... and a common surname is one of those. The likelihood of a relationship also increases if the people share similar given names or a common migration pattern or if they lived in the same areas at the same times or travelled with the same collateral families.
I believe this person has "lots of Clouds" in his DNA data because most of us have him as a match. Maybe we need to take another look but, when I looked a couple of years ago, there was nothing in his published information that made me think he was anything other than a spurious match caused by "genetic drift" that brought our families' DNA signatures close together.
Why don't you work with him and see if you can find any common ground to support that we might be related. Take a look at his paternal lineage and look for places and times that match what we know. It is possible he is related through a Cloud that went to Canada and changed his name. Bear in mind that we are all related, if you go back far enough, but we're probably not wanting to trace back 25,000 or so years to find our common ancestor, since the records back then are difficult to find, and to read <grin>.
Tom
At 07:40 PM 11/8/2007, you wrote:
> Tom,Ken, I'm Randy Cloud kit # 39042. I've been with you since the
>start, cousin, I'm all mutated out. ha ha. My question is what are the 140
>names on our recent DNA, is that average,+ or -, And who is Ratray? The DNA
>says if you match all, you are related before surnames. WoW. I e-mailed
>Ratray In Canada and he says that he has a lot of clouds in his DNA. WoW. So
>what's up with this Your cousin Randy.
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This is for you to chew on. Many years ago I had been told by Dad that the Cloud name originated by such:
King Clovis IV kicked his son Clotildad (sp) out of France for having carnal knowledge with the King's mistress. He went to England and took the name St. Cloude and the St. was dropped years later.........
I did not send this message to the list, as I have never tried to verify it. But I searched some today and here is the cud:
Chlodomer
>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
. Ten things you may not know about Wikipedia .Jump to: navigation, search
Merovingian Kings Kings of All the Franks
Kings of Neustria
Kings of Austrasia
Chlodio
Merovech
Childeric I ? -481
Clovis I 481 - 511
Childebert I 511-558
Chlothar I 511-561
Chlodomer 511-524
Theuderic I 511-534
Theudebert I 534-548
Theudebald 548-555
Chlothar I 558-561
Charibert I 561-567
Chilperic I 561-584
Chlothar II 584-629
Guntram 561-592
Childebert II 592-595
Theuderic II 595-613
Sigebert II 613
Sigebert I 561-575
Childebert II 575-595
Theudebert II 595-612
Theuderic II 612-613
Sigebert II 613
Chlothar II 613-629
Dagobert I 623-629
Dagobert I 629-639
Charibert II 629-632
Chilperic 632
Clovis II 639-658
Chlothar III 658-673
Theuderic III 673
Childeric II 673-675
Theuderic III 675-691
Sigebert III 634-656
Childebert the Adopted 656-661
Chlothar III 661-662
Childeric II 662-675
Clovis III 675-676
Dagobert II 676-679
Theuderic III 679-691
Clovis IV 691-695
Childebert III 695-711
Dagobert III 711-715
Chilperic II 715-720
Chlothar IV 717-720
Theuderic IV 721-737
Childeric III 743-751
Chlodomer, also spelled Clodomir or Clodomer (born c. 495) was the second of the four sons of Clovis I, King of the Franks. On the death of his father, in 511, he divided the kingdom of the Franks with his three brothers:
Theuderic I, Childebert I, and Clotaire I.
Although Theuderic, the eldest, had a better claim, Chlodomer divided half of the kingdom with his two other
brothers. This was the Kingdom of Orléans, taken from the former kingdom of Syagrius. This kingdom included, most notably, the bishoprics of Tours, Poitiers and Orléans.
Chlodomer married Guntheuca, with whom he had three sons: Theodebald,Gunthar, and Clodoald (later known as St Cloud).
In 523-524, possibly at the instigation of his mother Clotilde, who was eager to avenge her nephew who had been assassinated by Sigismund of Burgundy, Chlodomer joined with his brothers in an expedition against the Burgundians. After capturing Sigismund, Chlodomer returned to Orléans.
However, Sigismund's brother Gondomar returned triumphantly to Burgundy at the head of the troops sent by his ally, the Ostrogothic king Theodoric the Great. There, he massacred the garrison the Franks had left behind.
Although victorious, Chlodomer had Sigismund and his sons Gisald and Gondebaud assassinated on May 1, 524. He then led a second expedition against the Burgundians.
He was killed on this expedition, in the spring or summer of the same year, at the Battle of Vézeronce. His three sons were entrusted to his mother until his widow married Clotaire I. Clotaire, however, had Chlodomer's children killed, although Clodoald managed to escape. Better known as Saint Cloud, he later became abbot of Nogent, having given up his hair, the symbol of the Frankish royalty, rather than giving up his life.
Laura
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At 11:10 AM 11/7/2007, you wrote:
>Several years ago we were in the DC area and had dinner with Harley
>Cloud and his wife. He invited another fellow Cloud to eat with us.
>Turns out this gentleman's Cloud came from France. He was raised in
>southern Michigan. Maybe Harley could provide info for you to contact
>him and discuss his family.
>
>Ken Cloud
Here is a Michigan CLOUD -- descended from a Frenchman
http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I133961&tree=mykindr...
Perhaps these are the parents of the man you and Harley had dinner with?
Tom
Clouds from France
I'm trying to come up with some clues for our dead-end lines in our DNA Project and was looking at Clouds who immigrated from France. It would be helpful to find out more about these people -- they may explain some of these dead end Cloud lines.
Below are census records from 1860, 1870 and 1880. The format of the header information is:
<state>, <county>, <city>, <page>, <NARA film series #>
<date>, <dwelling/family>
===================
1860 census
===================
OH, Stark, Lake twp, p. 1, (M653-1038, p.364)
June 1, 1860, HH 3/3
Baptist Cloude, 38, M, brick maker, $300, $150, France
Catharine, 28, PA
Franklin, 8, OH
John, 6, OH
CA, San Francisco, San Francisco, p. 125, (M653-67, p.679)
June 23, 1860, HH 1091/1117
Emiline Cloud, 60, F, France
OH, Hamilton, Cincinnati, p. 166, (M653-971, p.331)
July 14, 1860, HH 1298
Francis Cloud, 42, M, merchant, $13000, $100, France
Wilhelmina, 36, F, Hanover
Francis H, 14, M, OH
Mary Ann, 13, F, OH
NY, Westchester, West Farms, p. 428, (M653-878, p.428)
July 27, 1860, HH 2915/3265
Jno Cloud, 30, M, laborer, France
Eath, 26, F, Ireland
Mary A, 2, F, NY
MO, Cooper, Boonville, p. 72, (M653-616, p.492)
June 21, 1860, HH 556
John Cloud, 37, M, stone cutter, France
OH, Stark, Nimishillen, p. 129, (M653 Roll: 1038 Page: 520)
July 11, 1860, HH 997/964
John Cloud, 50, M, farmer, $300, France
Mary, 24, F, FR
Rosa, 16, F, OH
Frances, 14, F, OH
Catharine, 12, F, OH
OH, Portage, Ravenna, p. 31, (M653-1025, p.158)
June 15, 1860, HH 258/250
Nicholas Cloud, 36, M, waggon maker, $500, $300, France
Elizabeth, 34, F, PA
Mary M, 12, F, OH
Louisa, 1, OH
CT, Hartford, Rocky Hill, p. 3, (M653-77m, p.269)
June 9, 1860, HH 18/17
Peter Cloud, 52, M, laborer, $200, $50, France
===================
1870 census
===================
PA, Wayne, Texas twp, p. 48, (M593-1464, p.365)
Aug 1, 1870, HH 312/366, line 11
Cloud, Chett, 34, M, W, glass factory, France
(in HH of Martha Patcher, 48, also from France)
IL, Livingston, Sullivan, p. 13, (M593-247, p.370)
Aug 10, 1870, HH 86
Cloud, D.P., 24, M, W, farmer, $4000, $300, France
" , Annie, 27, 20, Ireland
OH, Hamilton, Cincinnati, p. 126, (M593-1210, p.515)
July 6, 1870, HH 573/932
Cloud, Francis, 52, W, M, book dealer, $19700, $2500, France
" , Wilhelmena, 45, F, W, Prussia
" , Leo, 9, OH
" , Joseph, 7, OH
Bunker, Henrietta, 18, F, W, domestic servant, Prussia
Pa, Montgomery, Lower Merion twp, p. 1, (M593-1377, p.481)
June 25, HH 5/5
Cloud, Jno, 38, M, W, laborer, France
" , Frances, 40, F, W, keeping house, France
" , Mary, 15, France
Dakota Territory, Yankton, Yankton, p. 14, (M593-118, p.164)
Sept 1, 1870, HH 158/159
Cloud, John, 40, M, W, farmer, $2000, $1500, France
" , Ephagy?, 26, F, W, Sardinia
" , Josephine, 5, F, Dakota
" , Eny?, 3, F, Dakota
" , Philomena, 1, F, Dakota
MI, Cass, Mason, p. 9, (M593-668, p.100)
July 23, 1870, HH 63/68
Cloud, Joseph B, 53, M, W, farmer, $1500, $350, France
" , Catharine, 39, F, W, PA
" , Franklin, 18, OH
" , John, 17, OH
" , Jeremiah, 10, OH
" , Charles, 8, OH
" , Joseph, 2, MI
OH, Portage, Ravenna, p. 3, (593-1258, p.415)
July 27, 1870, HH 23/24
Cloud, Nicholas, 44, M, W, wagon maker, $3200, $200, France
" , Elizabeth, 42, F, W, PA
" , Louisa, 11, OH
" , Cora, 2, OH
CT, New Haven, Meriden, p. 240, (M593-111, p.428)
Cloud, Peter, 65, M, W, France
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1880 census
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IL, Lee Amboy, p. 2, sd 2, ed 107, (T9-225, p.160)
HH 19/19
Cloud, David, W, M, 60, laborer, France, FR, FR
KY, Campbell, Newport, p. 11, sd 4, ed 5, (T9-407, p.141)
June 3, 1880, 27 Monmouth Stree, HH 76/91
Cloud, Francis, W, M, 63, retired book seller, France, FR, FR
" , Wilhelmena, W, F, 53, wife, Hanover, Hanover, Hanover
" , Joseph A, 17, son, student at college, OH, FR, Hanover
Schroer?, Leo, 4, grandson, OH, Hanover, OH
NY, NY, NY, p. 7, sd 1, ed 47, (T9-868, p.262)
June 4, 1880, 126 Leonard Street, HH 48
Cloud, John, W, M, 38, glass cutting, France, FR, FR
" , Mary, W, F, 37, wife, FR, FR, FR
" , Mary, 14, dau, FR, FR, FR
" , Josephine, 6, dau, NY, FR, FR
IN, Allen, Perry, p. 11, sd 6, ed 102, (T9-264, p.189)
June 9, 1880, HH 92/96, line 19
Cloud, Joseph, W, M, 64, boarder, laborer, France, FR, FR
MI, Cass, Mason, p. 18, sd first, ed 69, (T9-575, p.502)
June 28, 1880, HH 185/186
Cloud, Joseph, W, M, 67, farmer, France, FR, FR
" , Cathren, W, F, 48, PA, PA, PA
" , Charles, 18, son, OH
" , Joseph B, 12, son, MI
" , John, 25, son, OH
" , Lizie, 18, wife, PA, PA, PA
" , Clarie A, 1, dau, MI, OH, PA
All of these are entered into the database at http://mykindred.com/ ... some have descendants added.
The Cloud DNA Project is at:
http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/
Cousins,
For a short time we have a (very) limited number of gift certificates for DNA tests for the Cloud DNA Project.
If your line is a "dead end" line, this is an excellent opportunity for you to add some valuable clues using DNA evidence.
Since this is a commercial offer, it cannot be promoted on the list -- so I encourage you to write the Cloud DNA Project administrator at
clouddna - at - mykindred.com (substitute the requisite "@" symbol in the email address).
The Project can be seen at:
http://mykindred.comn/cloud/dna/
and our discounted group rates are at:
http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/dnatest.php
If you have any questions either write me (or the clouddna email address above) and/or read the information at the project website.
Bear in mind that the prices aren't so bad when compared to the cost of even a simple genealogical scavenger hunt.
There is also the possibility of some help with the cost from the Cloud Family Association if it poses a problem for you.
thanks,
Tom Cloud
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Surnames: CLOUD, GAMEL, HUGHES,SMITH
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Hello cousin! Your grandmother was my 2nd cousin.
You'll find information on your grandmother and the rest of her family at:
http://mykindred.com/ ... specifically:
http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I4223&tree=mykindred01
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