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Does anyone know who this family is ?
Earl Clay Cloud / or / Clay E. Cloud
b. Oct 2, 1891 TN
d. Feb 27, 1966, TX
(his name on 1930 census is Clay E.; on all other documents I find it is either Earl Clay or E.C.)
+ Ada Lucille Kizer
b. ca 1907
m. ca 1925
six children, all b. TX:
Vera Oneta 1926
John E. 1928
Julia Juanita 1929
Donald Wayne 1936
Joe Neil 1939 - 1976
Orvel Lee 1944 - 2006
thanks,
Tom Cloud
still going through submitted data ...
Who is the family of Rector Cloud b. 1917 in Tennessee (prob. Hancock county) ?? .... Who was his father's father? His father was Robert Cloud (1894 TN - 1931) and ?Vive? (ca 1901 TN - ?)
Rector was b. 5-8-1917 TN
They were on the Hancock cty, TN 1920 census
....
I have the family of Philip Marion Cloud (1873 IA-1938 IA) who m. Eva Rector (1881 IA - 1971 IA). Eva's parents were John Uriah Rector and Josephine Rector.
....
Rector is an unusual enough name to make me think these families are related, but how?
thanks,
Tom Cloud
What family does this lady belong to?
BEATRICE M. CLOUD Celebration of Life Services for Mrs. Beatrice M. Cloud, age 88, of 1416 Hawkins Street N.W., will be held Wednesday, March 29, 2006, 12:00 Noon at Hunter Hills Baptist Church, 166 Edwards Street NW, Rev. Christopher A. Wimberly, Pastor, officiating. Interment, Monte Vista Biblical Gardens. She was preceded in death by her only child, a daughter, Mrs. Eleanor L. Dixon. She leaves to cherish her memories: two grandsons and daughters-in-law, Mr. and Mrs. Curtis McCrary (Sandra), and Mr. and Mrs. Sammy L. Norris (Angela); a devoted niece, Mrs. Mattie L. Coleman; six great-grandchildren; seven great-great-grandchildren and a host of other nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends, including the Hunter Hills Baptist Church Family. The cortege will assemble at 2686 Mango Circle N.W., at 11:00 A.M. The family will receive friends (Wake) tonight from 7:00 until 8:00 P.M. at Herschel Thornton Mortuary, 3346 M.L. King Jr. Dr. Burial in Monte Vista Biblical Gardens!
Cem, Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia, USA
no we have nothing that I can find
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [CLOUD] can you read this census?
> do we know medical hx on grandfather albert Cloud, son Robert L cloud from
> hoopston Il?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken C" <kec(a)cox.net>
> To: <cloud(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [CLOUD] can you read this census?
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>
> > Tom
> >
> > I have Elnathan Cloud in my data, appears that his father was Abner
> > Cloud and wife Mary Davis-Gould. Kids appear to be the same.
> >
> > Ken Cloud
> >
> > Tom Cloud wrote:
> > > I would appreciate some help reading the names on this 1850 Claiborne,
> TN census
> > > http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/census/1850-M432-874,300.php
> > >
> > > ... down near the bottom -- HH 860
> > >
> > > Looks to me like
> > > ?? L. Nathan Cloud ????, 24, TN
> > > Mary Cloud, 24, TN (wife or sister ?)
> > > Francis M. Cloud, 21, TN
> > > ?? Arlean ?? J. Cloud, ... what is her age? ??
> > >
> > >
> > > ... then, what family is this?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
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Tina,
Thanks -- that is very helpful ... now to find out who William's father was.
Tom
At 04:36 AM 1/25/2007, you wrote:
>1860 census, PA.. Berks Co.
>Household of William Cloudt (Cloud)
>
>William Cloudt 48 yrs old, Male, born PA, occupation - Hatter.
>Leo Cloud, 49 yrs old, F, born PA
>John Cloud, 20 yrs, Male, born PA
>Hiram, 13 yrs, Male, born PA.
>Sarah, 11 yrs, F, born PA.
>
>In 1850 census, William Cloud's occupation was also listed as Hatter.
>
>
>1870, Berks Co, PA
>Household of William Cloud
>
>William Cloud, 58 yr old male, born PA, Retired boatman
>Leo Cloud, 60 yrs old female, born PA, Keeping house.
>
>
>I'm unsure if this is the same William Cloud in the 1880 census.
>
>1880, Montgomery Co, PA. Pottstown.
>
>William Cloud, 61 yr old male, widower, born PA, shoemaker.
>
>
>Tina Simpkins Cloud
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1860 census, PA.. Berks Co.
Household of William Cloudt (Cloud)
William Cloudt 48 yrs old, Male, born PA, occupation - Hatter.
Leo Cloud, 49 yrs old, F, born PA
John Cloud, 20 yrs, Male, born PA
Hiram, 13 yrs, Male, born PA.
Sarah, 11 yrs, F, born PA.
In 1850 census, William Cloud's occupation was also listed as Hatter.
1870, Berks Co, PA
Household of William Cloud
William Cloud, 58 yr old male, born PA, Retired boatman
Leo Cloud, 60 yrs old female, born PA, Keeping house.
I'm unsure if this is the same William Cloud in the 1880 census.
1880, Montgomery Co, PA. Pottstown.
William Cloud, 61 yr old male, widower, born PA, shoemaker.
Tina Simpkins Cloud
1850 census, Upper Tulpehocken, Berks PA
Household of William Cloud
William Cloud, 38 yrs old, born PA
Leah Cloud, 40 yrs, born PA
Adeline, 12 yrs, F, PA
William, 9 yrs,M PA
Caroline, 4 yrs,F, PA
Hiram, 3 yrs, male PA
Sarah Ann, 1 yr. F, PA
Tina Simpkins Cloud
I have one of the children.
Owen T. Cloud, b and d dates ok. Married 4 children.
I have nothing on his parents or any of the other children you list.
following are the notes I have.
bituary from Sacramento Bee:
Owen T. Cloud in Carmichael on August 19, 1990, Age 85 years,
a native of Pennsylvania, Loving father of Thomas R. Cloud
of Sacramento; Robert O. Cloud of Carmichael; Betsy J.
Kenyon of Union City and Merlin C. Bunker of Washington.
Survived by 11 grandchildren, 9 Great Grandchildren.
Memorial services private. Arrangement by Russ Monroe's
Village Chapel, Fair Oaks.
Owen T. Cloud; Male; 193-03-3128, Sacramento Co.;
August 19,1990; 4988; 128051.
SS Death Master File:
Cal. 561-92-4007, Merlin Cloud, born July 22, 1906;
died June 22, 1988 Cal. 95660
Calif. Death Index:
Merlin C. Cloud, spouse O.T., Female, 561-92-4007,
Sacramento Co. June 22, 1988, Reg. #3766, State fole 98618.
SS Death Master File:
Pa. 193-03-3128, Owen Cloud, born 13 Oct 1904;
Ken Cloud
Tom Cloud wrote:
> 1-Hiram J. Cloud
> b: FEB 1847 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
> +Elizabeth (Mrs. Hiram Cloud)
> b: SEP 1870 in Wales
> m: abt 1887 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
> . . 2-Hazel Irene Cloud
> b: DEC 1887 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
> . . 2-Leah O. Cloud
> b: OCT 1891 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
> . . 2-Carl Cloud
> b: FEB 1894 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
> d: bef 1910
> . . 2-Harold Leroy Cloud
> b: NOV 29, 1896
> d: DEC 9, 1965 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
> . . +Ann E. Klick
> b: JAN 4, 1897
> m: abt 1920
> d: OCT 18, 1995
> . . 2-Lillian Cloud
> b: MAR 1898 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
> . . 2-Owen T. Cloud
> b: OCT 13, 1904 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
> d: AUG 19, 1990
> . . 2-Enid G. Cloud
> b: abt 1907 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
>
>
> The family of Anna Klick ...
>
> 1-Charles Klick
> b: abt 1869 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
> +Sallie K. (Mrs Charles Klick)
> b: abt 1873 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
> . . 2-Ann E. Klick
> b: JAN 4, 1897
> d: OCT 18, 1995
> . . +Harold Leroy Cloud
> b: NOV 29, 1896
> m: abt 1920
> d: DEC 9, 1965 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
> . . 2-Hilda Klick
> b: abt 1902 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
> . . 2-Jannett E. Klick
> b: abt 1904 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
> . . 2-Lee Owen Klick
> b: JUL 28, 1909 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
> d: AUG 1979 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
> . . 2-Ross N. Klick
> b: MAR 22, 1912 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
> d: SEP 4, 1998 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
>
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well, rats! I've looked at every Cloud 25 years and older in 1860 PA and can't find Hiram's parents. (I can't easily look at 1850 since Heritage Quest doesn't have it indexed ... maybe someone with ancestry could take a look for me ??)
Here is census data for Hiram's family
1900 census, PA, Allegheny, Pittsburgh, ed 304, 6-A, (T623-1364, p.18)
June 4, 1900, 1010 Sarah Street, HH 115, (all b. PA except Elizabeth)
Cloud, Hiram, head, W, M, Feb 1847, 53, m 13 yrs, watchman
" , Elizabeth, wife, W, F, Sept 1870, 29, m 13 yrs, 5/5 children, Wales, Wales, Wales
" , Irene, dau, Dec 1887, 12
" , Leeah, dau, Oct 1891, 8
" , Carl, son, Feb 1894, 6
" , Leroy, son, Nov 1896, 4
" , Lillian, dau, Mar 1898, 2
1910 census, PA, Allegheny, Pittsburgh, ed 500, 13-B, (T624-1305, p.63)
April 25, 1910, 73, S 19th Street, HH 183/268 (all b. PA except Elizabeth)
Cloud, Hiram J, head, M, W, 61, m1, 22 yrs
" , Elizabeth J, wife, F, W, 59, m1 22 yrs, 8/7 children, Wales, Wales, Wales
" , Hazel I, dau, 21
" , Leah O, dau, 18
" , Harold L, son, 13
" , Lillian L, dau, 11
" , Owen T, son, 5
" , Enid G, dau, 3
1-Hiram J. Cloud
b: FEB 1847 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
+Elizabeth (Mrs. Hiram Cloud)
b: SEP 1870 in Wales
m: abt 1887 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
. . 2-Hazel Irene Cloud
b: DEC 1887 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
. . 2-Leah O. Cloud
b: OCT 1891 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
. . 2-Carl Cloud
b: FEB 1894 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
d: bef 1910
. . 2-Harold Leroy Cloud
b: NOV 29, 1896
d: DEC 9, 1965 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
. . +Ann E. Klick
b: JAN 4, 1897
m: abt 1920
d: OCT 18, 1995
. . 2-Lillian Cloud
b: MAR 1898 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
. . 2-Owen T. Cloud
b: OCT 13, 1904 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
d: AUG 19, 1990
. . 2-Enid G. Cloud
b: abt 1907 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
The family of Anna Klick ...
1-Charles Klick
b: abt 1869 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
+Sallie K. (Mrs Charles Klick)
b: abt 1873 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
. . 2-Ann E. Klick
b: JAN 4, 1897
d: OCT 18, 1995
. . +Harold Leroy Cloud
b: NOV 29, 1896
m: abt 1920
d: DEC 9, 1965 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
. . 2-Hilda Klick
b: abt 1902 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
. . 2-Jannett E. Klick
b: abt 1904 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
. . 2-Lee Owen Klick
b: JUL 28, 1909 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
d: AUG 1979 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
. . 2-Ross N. Klick
b: MAR 22, 1912 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
d: SEP 4, 1998 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny county, Pennsylvania
Tina,
One other thing -- the 1900 census with Beckie Cloud being born 1852 would indicate that her husband, Armstead, was born about the same time. The two Armstead Clouds I found were born about 1782 and 1828. It looks to me like Becky's husband is a son of the latter Armstead b. 1828.
I have corrected the data so that all three Armstead Clouds are listed separately and alone, even though it sure looks to me like they're related (the website database is not yet updated to reflect this).
... one other thing -- the subject line above indicates Armstead's wife was named "Clara". Further examination of the census looks to me like the enumerator left her given name blank and wrote her last name "Cloud", and I interpreted that as Clara .... also corrected in the data.
This isn't even close to my line and I can't spend anymore time on it. I will be happy to accept whatever you or anyone else wants to contribute.
Tom
Tina,
(I'm cc'ing this to the Cloud list so I don't have to write two emails -- just not enough time in the day.)
I'm being pulled in too many directions ... sorry for not responding sooner. .... also, I've worked on this for a day or two off and on so it may be disjointed.
I see you are correct, I made a mistake -- the "Mu" for Mulatto is difficult to read and I assumed it was "W" ... but what do you think that means? It makes me think these are descendants of Cloud slave families, but they must have been freed, as this is 1850 census.
Here's what I have:
- death certificate (from you) for Howard Nelson Cloud which gives his parents' names as Armstead Cloud and Rebecca Butterfield.
... his death certificate says he was born in Berryville, Clarke cty, VA
(which is only about 25-30 miles from Martinsburg, WV where he died)
- An Armstead Cloud (Black) on 1850 Claiborne cty TN census, 68 years old (b. ca 1782) with wife Clara
... (Claiborne cty, TN is about 160 miles SW from Wythe cty, VA, below)
- An Armstead Cloud (Mulatto) 1880 Wythe cty, VA, 52 years old (b. ca 1828) with wife Jane
(Wytheville is about 250 miles SW from Berryville, where Howard is said to have been born.)
Here are my observations ....
- there are no other known Armstead Clouds (that I can find), so it seems reasonable to strongly consider that these are related -- probably father and son.
- both Armsteads are listed as Black or mulatto (implying a relationship between them ???)
- The elder was in Claiborne county, TN in 1850, b. ca 1782
- the younger was in Wythe county, VA in 1880, b. ca 1828
- if the elder is the father of the younger, he was about 46 years old when the younger was born
- if Howard Nelson is their son -- and if the place of birth listed on his death certificate is correct -- then the younger Armstead (Howard's supposed father) had moved about 250 miles SW from Berryville, VA to Wythe county, VA between Howard's birth in 1873 and the census year of 1880.
** problem with the 1880 census -- Howard Nelson Cloud would have been 7 years old, but he doesn't appear with this family. Maybe he was living with someone else? .... maybe he doesn't belong with this family?
** I made some leaps of faith -- one was where I added a middle name to Rebecca Butterfield of "Jane". This was the second leap of faith, the first being where I assumed that the Armstead Cloud I found in 1880 Wythe cty VA was the father of Howard Nelson Cloud.
** I need to at least make a note on the website indicating how I came to the conclusion that Howard belonged to the 1880 census family of Armstead and Jane Cloud.
... other collateral information ...
Who is Rebecca Butterfield? ... looking for her father
If we don't assume the 1880 census Armstead is her husband, then we are left backing up from Howard's birth date of 1873 about 20-25 years for an assumed date of birth for his mother and father. The Jane, wife of the 1880 census Armstead, was born ca 1835. If she was Howard's mother, she was 38 when he was born.
.... this makes me assume a dob for Howard's mother, Rebecca Butterfield, of about 1830-1850.
I found some other Butterfields in the area -- who also married into the Cloud family ...
John Johnson Butterfield, b. 1789 VA
http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I127178&tree=mykindr...
... married Edith Cloud, parents unknown
One of his daughters, Nancy Ann Butterfield, married William Cloud (parents unknown), b. ca 1795 and died in Winchester, VA
John Johnson Butterfield had two sons -- Thomas and Joseph -- both of whom could have been Rebecca's father.
- Thomas Butterfield was b. ca 1811 and could have father a daughter b. 1830-1850
http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I127179&tree=mykindr...
- Joseph Butterfield, b. ca 1813, but no known wife, could also have fathered a daughter b. 1830-1850.
The location and chronology of this Butterfield family, and the lack of any others I can find in the area .... and their twice marriage into the Cloud family line, make them prime suspects to me to be related to Howard Nelson Cloud's mother, Rebecca Butterfield ... but what about the two Armstead Clouds ... are they father and grandfather of Howard?
I looked through Claiborne cty, TN 1850 census for other Cloud families -- trying to see what family Armstead might have either been related to or have been a slave to.
1850 census, TN, Claiborne, 7th sub. Eastern Dist
(M432-874, p.235)
Aug. 22, 1850, HH 20/23, all b. TN
Susan Cloud, 60, F
Leander Cloud, 27, M, farmer
Greenville Cloud, 26, M, farmer
Nancy O. Cloud, 20
Louiza Cloud, 15
Louiza M Clary?, 10
Orleany? M Clary?, 10
Elizabeth M Clary?, 6
Green B. Bundren?, 26
Madison, Mullins, 8
HH 24/24
Henry Cloud, 37, farmer
Jane Cloud, 36
J.B. Cloud, 15, M
B.F. Cloud, 12, M
Wiley Vanburen Cloud, 10
William W. Cloud, 8
Mary Cloud, 5
Augustus Cloud, 4
Nancy? O. Cloud, 5/12
(M432-874, p.253-254)
Sept. 5, 1850, HH 266/264
Jacob Cloud, 63, M, farmer, SC
Mary Cloud, 52, SC
Green B Cloud, 28, M, Dept Sheriff, TN
Martha Cloud, 15, TN
James R McMahan, 5, TN
(M432-874, p.270)
Sept. 20, 1850
HH 468/468
B.F. Cloud, 46, M, farmer, TN
Elizabeth M Cloud, 21, F, TN
Alexander Cloud, 3, M, TN
Benj F Cloud, 1, M, TN
HH 472/472
Armstead Cloud, 68, M, B, laborer, VA
.... Cloud, 65, F, B, VA
M432-874, p.281
Sept. 28, 1850
HH 614/614
Benjamin F Cloud, 24, M, farmer, TN
Nancy Cloud, 22, M, KY
HH 615/615
John Cloud, 22, M, farmer, TN
Adaline Cloud, 16, F, TN
HH 618/618
Green B Cloud, 65, M, farmer, NC
Bethune Cloud, 50, F, VA
Eliza Cloud, 26, F, VA
Evan Cloud, 20, M, laborer, TN
Morgan Cloud, 18, M, laborer, TN
M432-874, p.300-A
Oct 12, 1850, HH 860
L. Nathan Cloud, 24, farmer, TN
Mary Cloud, 24, F, TN
Francis M. Cloud, 2, M, TN
Arlean J. Cloud, 10/12, F, TN
M432-874, p.300-B & 301-A
Oct 15, 1850, HH 869
Abner Cloud, 49, farmer, TN
Polly Cloud, 46, TN
Samuel Cloud, 21, laborer, TN
Pryor L. Cloud, 20, laborer, TN
Benjamin Cloud, 17, laborer, TN
Jacob Cloud, 17, laborer, TN
Martha J. Cloud, 14, TN
Ishom S. Cloud, 10, TN
Sarah A Cloud, 7, TN
HH 871
Samuel Cloud, 84, farmer, NC
Margaret Cloud, 59, TN
... also, in 1870 census, I found a family that might be Cloud or Clark or ??? ... very difficult to read
=================================================
1870 census, VA, Culpeper, Culpeper P.O., p. 10?, (M593-1641, p.675)
Aug 27, 1850, HH 794/784, (all b. VA)
Cloud/Clark?, Armstead, 38, M, B, farm hand
" , Jane, 35, F, B
" , James, 15, M
" , R????, 14, M
" , Eddie, 10, F
" , A????, 9, M
" , ?????, 3, M
" , Frank, 3, M
... sorry for going on so long. Thank you very much for your contributions and for your observations.
Tom Cloud
At 09:00 PM 1/20/2007, Tina Cloud wrote:
>Tom,
>
>Read your post on the Cloud web site, father of Howard Nelson Cloud.
>
> I tried to trace Howard N. Cloud, back to 1880 census, have not found him yet in the 1880 census. I did find this bit of info.
>
>1900 Census, Virginia, Frederick Co, Stonewall, VA. District 29
>
>Beckie Cloud, 48 yrs old, head, W, F, Divorce, born Feb 1852, VA, father born PA, mother VA.
>Howard N Cloud, 24 yrs, son, born Sept 18?? (unable to read) born VA, father VA, mother VA, single
>(I'm sure this is the right Howard Nelson Cloud, that died 1951 in WV, mother was Rebecca Butterfield)
>
>1910 Census, Election District 16, Allegany, Maryland.
>
>Howard N. Cloud, 34 yrs, born VA.
>Gertrude I, (wife) married 6 yrs, 2 children, 2 living.
>Theodore (son) 5 yrs
>Edna E. (daughter) 1 yr.
>
>1920 Census. Hedgesville, Berkeley Co, WV
>
>H.N. Cloud, 47 yrs,
>Gertrude (wife) 33 yrs.
>Theodore (son) 16 yrs.
>Evelyn (daughter) 11 yrs.
>Virles (son) 6 yrs old .... he gave the info on mother's death certificate.
>Calvin J (son) 6/12
>
>1930 Census: Hedgesville, Berkeley, WV..
>
>Howard N. Cloud, 56 yrs, born WV.
>Ida G. (wife) 44 yrs.
>Theodore R (son) 26 yrs.
>Wallace E. (son ? ?) 16 yrs, (possible Calvin J in 1920 census)
>John C. (son) 10 yrs.
>Bernad T, (son) 8 yrs.
>
>Note for Bernad T Cloud: SS death records list Tyson B Cloud, born 9 Jan 1922, WV, died 06 May 2005,
> Berkeley, WV
>
>The Armstead Cloud listed in 1850 census, Claiborne, TN Race Black.
>
>The Armstead Cloud, listed in 1880 census, Wythe, VA, Race Mulatto.
>
>I have a few death certificates for the surname of Cloud from WV, Race is Black.
>
>
>Tina Simpkins Cloud
Just a point of reference regarding the Armstead Cloud in Claiborne County,
TN in 1850. He and his wife were Black - perhaps former slaves?
> [Original Message]
> From: Tom Cloud <tcloud(a)austin.rr.com>
> To: <cloud(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 1/20/2007 12:47:10 PM
> Subject: [CLOUD] Armstead Cloud b. ca 1828 VA - WV
>
> One of the puzzles created (for me) by Tina Cloud's contributed WV death
certificates is -- where does Armstead Cloud fit into the family?
>
> I first found his name on his son Howard Nelson Cloud's death certificate
> http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/tinascloud/127145death.php
>
> Then I found him on the 1880 Fort Chiswell, Wyeth county, VA census. He
has a daughter, Catherine, listed there born about 1862, so I searched for
him on the 1870 census, but to no avail. So, at this point, I have no idea
where he was born or where his parents were born -- or who they were. I
have not had the time to investigate misspellings of his surname. I also
assume, with a birth date of 1828, that he was married by 1850 ... but
can't find him in 1860 census either.
>
> In 1850, there is an Armstead Cloud, 68 VA, with Clara, 69 VA in
Claiborne county, TN (he'd be b. circa 1782)
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnclaib2/1850cct/04670477.jpg
>
> If this latter Armstead is the earlier's father, he was about 46 years
old at the birth of Armstead Jr. .... or, it is reasonable to consider
another generation might be stuck in there somewhere.
>
> Any help figuring out where Armstead fits is appreciated.
>
> thanks,
> Tom Cloud
>
>
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The Cloud whose name appears to be L. Nathan in the Claiborne County, TN
1850 census later went by the initials E. O. Cloud. He moved his family to
Buffalo township, Newton County, MO sometime between 1852 and 1855. His
wife apparently died after giving birth to five more children and he
married an Elizabeth Unknown ca. 1860. His family in 1860 consisted of
(wife) Elizabeth, age 34 & born in TN; Francis M. age 12 & born in TN;
Orlena J. age 10 & born in TN; Mary A. age 8 and born in TN; Abner P. age 5
& born in MO; (twins) Polly M. & Samuel Gaines age 3 & born in MO and
William age 2 & born in MO.
Living next to E. O. Cloud in the 1860 Newton County, MO census was A. C.
Cloud age 33 & born in TN (perhaps a brother to E. O.?) Martha age 27 &
born in Illinois and Henry F. age 9 months & born in MO.
> [Original Message]
> From: Tom Cloud <tcloud(a)austin.rr.com>
> To: <cloud(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 1/23/2007 11:44:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [CLOUD] can you read this census?
>
> I think I've figured it out ...
>
> This is Elnathan Cloud, son of Abner and Mary Capps Cloud
>
> Maybe the Francis M. Cloud is 2 years old rather than 21 ??
>
> Tom
>
> >I would appreciate some help reading the names on this 1850 Claiborne,
TN census
> >http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/census/1850-M432-874,300.php
> >
> > ... down near the bottom -- HH 860
> >
> >Looks to me like
> >?? L. Nathan Cloud ????, 24, TN
> >Mary Cloud, 24, TN (wife or sister ?)
> >Francis M. Cloud, 21, TN
> >?? Arlean ?? J. Cloud, ... what is her age? ??
> >
> >
> > ... then, what family is this?
> >
> >thanks,
> >Tom
>
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I think I've figured it out ...
This is Elnathan Cloud, son of Abner and Mary Capps Cloud
Maybe the Francis M. Cloud is 2 years old rather than 21 ??
Tom
>I would appreciate some help reading the names on this 1850 Claiborne, TN census
>http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/census/1850-M432-874,300.php
>
> ... down near the bottom -- HH 860
>
>Looks to me like
>?? L. Nathan Cloud ????, 24, TN
>Mary Cloud, 24, TN (wife or sister ?)
>Francis M. Cloud, 21, TN
>?? Arlean ?? J. Cloud, ... what is her age? ??
>
>
> ... then, what family is this?
>
>thanks,
>Tom
I would appreciate some help reading the names on this 1850 Claiborne, TN census
http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/census/1850-M432-874,300.php
... down near the bottom -- HH 860
Looks to me like
?? L. Nathan Cloud ????, 24, TN
Mary Cloud, 24, TN (wife or sister ?)
Francis M. Cloud, 21, TN
?? Arlean ?? J. Cloud, ... what is her age? ??
... then, what family is this?
thanks,
Tom
One of the puzzles created (for me) by Tina Cloud's contributed WV death certificates is -- where does Armstead Cloud fit into the family?
I first found his name on his son Howard Nelson Cloud's death certificate
http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/tinascloud/127145death.php
Then I found him on the 1880 Fort Chiswell, Wyeth county, VA census. He has a daughter, Catherine, listed there born about 1862, so I searched for him on the 1870 census, but to no avail. So, at this point, I have no idea where he was born or where his parents were born -- or who they were. I have not had the time to investigate misspellings of his surname. I also assume, with a birth date of 1828, that he was married by 1850 ... but can't find him in 1860 census either.
In 1850, there is an Armstead Cloud, 68 VA, with Clara, 69 VA in Claiborne county, TN (he'd be b. circa 1782)
http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnclaib2/1850cct/04670477.jpg
If this latter Armstead is the earlier's father, he was about 46 years old at the birth of Armstead Jr. .... or, it is reasonable to consider another generation might be stuck in there somewhere.
Any help figuring out where Armstead fits is appreciated.
thanks,
Tom Cloud
Thanks to fellow Cloud family researcher Tina Cloud, we have a number of death certificates and some very useful information. The best way to see what Tina has contributed is to visit the "What's New" link at mykindred.com and scroll down to "Documents". All of what's there, except the maps of Chester county PA was contributed by Tina.
http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/whatsnew.php
enjoy,
Tom
I will be posting death certificates for these in a bit ... but who is Howard Nelson Cloud (1873-1951).
His death certificate lists his parents:
father- Armstead Cloud
mother - Rebecca Butterfield
Since he was b. 1873, it's safe to assume his parents' dob circa 1850
Here is what I have at this point (also to be posted to the website later)
1-Howard Nelson Cloud
b: SEP 12, 1873 in Berryville, Clarke county, Virginia
d: APR 1, 1951 in Martinsburg, Berkeley county, West Virginia
+Ida Gertrude Kearns (dau of Robt. Kearns & Lydia Dailey)
b: OCT 16, 1884 in Gerrardstown, Berkeley county, West Virginia
m: abt 1903
d: DEC 16, 1954 in Martinsburg, Berkeley county, West Virginia
. . 2-Theodore Cloud
b: MAR 27, 1904 in West Virginia
d: MAR 1971 in Hedgesville, Berkeley county, West Virginia
. . 2-Evelyn Cloud
b: abt 1909 in West Virginia
. . 2-Virles Cloud
b: AUG 3, 1913 in West Virginia
d: MAR 1980 in Martinsburg, Berkeley county, West Virginia
. . 2-Calvin J. Cloud
b: DEC 18, 1919 in West Virginia
d: FEB 19, 1997 in Martinsburg, Berkeley county, West Virginia