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I am trying to find info on a Martha Cloud or McCloud who was born in England about 1890. She lived in West Virginia or possibly Kentucky & married a Lenard Miller (b 12-1889 in WVA & d about 1984 in Kermit WVA) They had several children one of whom was Fred Miller. I believe that Martha died in WVA as well. If any one knows of this line I would be eager to learn more
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CLOUD_Irene_Mary_1914-1985.JPG
I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Abiding Love Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records.
This is one of the 125,634 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com
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I recently found a letter in my mother's possession. The letter was from Amy Cloud to her relative, Mrs. Harry Brandenburg who lived at 919 N. 4th St., Arkansas City, Kansas in 1957. Amy wrote about her 3 sons: Ray Cloud born Feb. 3, 1943: Richard Cloud born Apr. 12, 1946; Marvin Cloud born Jan. 4, 1953. This family lived in New Pine Creek, OR. at that time. I am a third cousin to these brothers and hope to make contact with them as soon as possible. I can be e-mailed directly at: iamearthangel77(a)yahoo.com
Joan Endsley
Be aware that the genealogy / family history scams are still out there.
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I assume many of you received the Order form for the:
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I strongly recommend you not waste your money -- and I also suggest
you warn your kinfolks about them -- and encourage them to join
CFA instead! (And, remember, they're hitting all the various
surnames, so don't spare your warnings to just Clouds.)
Your first clue should be the phrase
...... "The last 2000 years of Cloud history."
That means they've found our ancestors back to the time of Christ!!!
Go figure -- I didn't know they had surnames back then ??
This is a fraud, a poor collection of readily available data, such
as phone books, census, SSDI, etc.
Companies like this give good companies a bad name and hurt all of us.
The company that is foisting this "service" on us ???
Their web addresses are:
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The company name is "Morphcorp" and the address they give is a
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Surnames: Matthew, Macik,
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See attached,,,,,,,,,,,no relation to above............
Hi Ken,
Has been awhile, but wanted to check with you regarding submitting an
obituary of my grandfather as he passed as a result of a heart attack while
Hurricane Katrina passed through his home in Gulfport, MS. He was 91 years
old and I know you have him in your records as Walter J. Cloud, Jr. I am in
the process of writing his obituary, things are a bit disarray in Gulfport
right now, but want to publish it here in the Sacramento Bee and on your
site. Any tips on writing it? I'll forward it soon for the site. He was
a fan.
Thanks,
Kathy Cloud
Tom,
I've been "out of pocket" for a couple of days. I have logged on the sites
you have posted and get an almost instant page on my screen. The only
place where I experience a delay of a few seconds (less than a minute) is
in the "Other Features" section. That could be caused by the size of the
files linked in that section.
Ray Shirley
rshirley(a)icx.net
> [Original Message]
> From: Tom Cloud <cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
> To: <CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 9/15/2005 10:53:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [CLOUD] DNA project
>
>
> Living people are supposed to be masked -- their names
> given as "Living".
>
> I made the project members "not living", but made their
> given names be their kit number.
>
> Your kit number is 32731. Your record in that database is:
>
http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/getperson.php?personID=I1299&tree=cloud-dn
a
>
> On the "Results" page, you can also click on your kit number at
> the bottom of the page:
> http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/results/cdnareport.php
>
>
> There is a nice script on that link that only shows the
> paternal line (since that's pretty much all that's there
> anyway).
>
>
> ... I don't know if it's my location ?? .... but is the
> mykindred site incredibly sloooooooooooow for anyone else?
>
> Tom
>
>
> At 09:43 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote:
> >Tom
> >
> > When I try to find myself in the data, it cannot find me.
> >Am I not included in the data?
> >
> >Ken
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud"
<cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
> >To: <CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> >Sent: 15 September, 2005 9:47 AM
> >Subject: [CLOUD] DNA project
> >
> >
> >>Cousins,
> >>The dna project results page is ready for viewing.
> >>Check it out at
> >>http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/
> >>
> >>As usual, I am not happy with the way it is laid out.
> >>Suggestions solicited.
> >>Even if you are _not_ a member of the dna project, you can
> >>submit Histories or genealogy data, etc. Just click on the
> >>link "Register for a Member Account".
> >>Tom Cloud
> >>
> >>==== CLOUD Mailing List ====
> >>..................................................................
> >> Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List?
> >> Submit a brief description of your ancestry.
> >
> >
> >==== CLOUD Mailing List ====
> > ..............................................................
> >Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud
>
>
>
> ==== CLOUD Mailing List ====
> ................................................................
> Cloud Family DNA Project
> http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/
>
Living people are supposed to be masked -- their names
given as "Living".
I made the project members "not living", but made their
given names be their kit number.
Your kit number is 32731. Your record in that database is:
http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/getperson.php?personID=I1299&tree=cloud...
On the "Results" page, you can also click on your kit number at
the bottom of the page:
http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/results/cdnareport.php
There is a nice script on that link that only shows the
paternal line (since that's pretty much all that's there
anyway).
... I don't know if it's my location ?? .... but is the
mykindred site incredibly sloooooooooooow for anyone else?
Tom
At 09:43 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote:
>Tom
>
> When I try to find myself in the data, it cannot find me.
>Am I not included in the data?
>
>Ken
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
>To: <CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: 15 September, 2005 9:47 AM
>Subject: [CLOUD] DNA project
>
>
>>Cousins,
>>The dna project results page is ready for viewing.
>>Check it out at
>>http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/
>>
>>As usual, I am not happy with the way it is laid out.
>>Suggestions solicited.
>>Even if you are _not_ a member of the dna project, you can
>>submit Histories or genealogy data, etc. Just click on the
>>link "Register for a Member Account".
>>Tom Cloud
>>
>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ====
>>..................................................................
>> Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List?
>> Submit a brief description of your ancestry.
>
>
>==== CLOUD Mailing List ====
> ..............................................................
>Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud
There have been several documents added to the Histories
page on the dna project.
Click on "What's New" to see all the new things or on
"Histories" to only see the History additions.
... also, let me know if you're having the same problem
with very sloooow response from the mykindred server.
The Histories:
- Kernion genealogy for R.E. Cloud
- letter of Daniel W. Cloud, dec'd at Alamo
- pension application of John Cloud, RS
- Pension application of William Cloud
- WW-I draft registrations for Clouds
Tom Cloud
Cousins,
The dna project results page is ready for viewing.
Check it out at
http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/
As usual, I am not happy with the way it is laid out.
Suggestions solicited.
Even if you are _not_ a member of the dna project, you can
submit Histories or genealogy data, etc. Just click on the
link "Register for a Member Account".
Tom Cloud
Harry,
I have been in the courthouse in Rogersville and in the Hawkins County
library, genealogy room. I have also surveyed the records in the Knox
County library McClung Collection and the UT Special Collections library.
I have not attempted to go through the Hawkins County Courthouse archived
records.
Here are some of my findings.
The McClung Collection has two collections relating to NC Land Grants. One
collection contains an index of grants listed by Tennessee counties and
includes the microfilm copies of the grants. The other collection contains
an index of NC Grants relating to Tennessee and includes microfilm copies
of the grants. A particular grant may be and almost always is listed in
both collections. As far as I know there hasn't been an attempt to collate
and compare the two collections. One microfilm collection contains North
Carolina Grant Books "A", "B" & "C". The Tennessee microfile collection
contains Hawkins County Land Grants, Books "A", "B" & "C". Irene M.
Griffey has transcribed what she calls "Earliest Tennessee Land Records and
Earliest Tennessee Land History." Her work includes all of the NC land
grants and transactions in Tennessee and covers multiple counties, i. e.
Sullivan, Washington, Hawkins, Green, etc. This is a monumental work
published by Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., Baltimore, MD (2000).
Billie R. McNamara has compiled, "Hawkins County, Tennessee Grant Books 1 &
2, 1787 - 1819."
John Armstrong surveyed most of the land grants in East Tennessee and his
entry books are in the McClung Collection. I have seen copies of his entry
books and they are very difficult to read. Irene Griffey has transcribed
Armstrong's Entry Books in two volumns, self published in 1993.
When you see a citation given as Hawkins County, Deed Books 1 - 8, those
are the WPA typewritten copies of the original Deed Books and these copies
contain many errors. Some of the typists never cleaned their type face and
they were probably the single finger hunt and peck sort of typists. I have
never determined the source for the Hawkins County, Tennessee Deed Books
"A", "B" and "C".
Ray Shirley
rshirley(a)icx.net
> [Original Message]
> From: Tom Cloud <tcloud(a)austin.rr.com>
> To: <CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 9/13/2005 8:10:47 AM
> Subject: [CLOUD] Re: Early Hawkins deed books
>
> this was posted to another rootsweb forum
>
> >Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:23:34 -0600
> >From: hogahl(a)starpower.net
> >Source: TNHAWKIN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> >Subject: Re: Early Hawkins deed books
> >
> >
> >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
> >
> >Classification: Query
> >
> >Message Board URL:
> >
> >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/3396.1.2
> >
> >Message Board Post:
> >
> >Peggy,
> >I appreciated your response to my inquiry about the deed books. The
cites below give an indication of my problems. In most cases, I did not
see these records myself. They were collected from various sources, and I
don���t know how careful the researchers were about their citations. Some
of them seem to be incomplete ��� e.g., the 1791 (5 Sept) record cite
specifies ���op. cit.��� [referring back to the 1790 (2 Jan) record], but
the page number (35) is lower than that of the earlier record (77). So
that raises the question: is the 1791 deed actually recorded in Deed Book
3 rather than 2? The same thing applies to the last two in the list ���
the 10 June, 1793 record cite indicates ���op. cit.��� in reference to the
preceding one but, again, has a lower page number, raising the question as
to whether the later deed is really recorded in Book 4? Can you tell me
how many deed books we are dealing with during that 1790-1801 peri!
> > od? Should the 1795 transfer to Wm. Cocke have a deed book reference?
> > Also, regarding the 1791 (21 Nov) record, which cites what appears to
be a later compilation of several books into one that covers a 12-year
period, am I right that you say that such compilations were put together by
the WPA project and involved only indices? If that���s the case, I can���t
figure how where the actual data came from. And is the exact title of the
compilation as it appears in that 1791 cite or in the later one that
specifies ���Tennessee Records of Hawkins County, Deed Book No. 1, 1788 ���
1800.���? Then there is the 1795 cite to ���Hawkins County Tennessee
Grant Books 1 & 2, 1787 ��� 1819. ????
> >
> >I hate to bother you with these questions, but I���m sitting up in D.
C., far away from Rogersville. I have checked the LoC and the D.A.R.
collections, and they are both very limited in this area. Thanks for
whatever help you can give me. Harry
> >
> >
> >Hawkins Co. land deed transfers: 1790 - 1801
> >
> >1790 (2 Jan) - For 500 lbs, William Cloud of Stokes Co., NC, sold James
Armstrong of Patrick Co., VA, 640 acres on both sides of Poor Valley Creek.
[Hawkins Co., TN, Deed Book 2, p. 77]
> >
> >1791 (5 Sept) - For 100 lbs, Jason Cloud of Hawkins Co., TN, sold the
heirs of A. Campbell 300 acres in Carter's Valley, adj. to Robert Campbell.
[Hawkins Co., TN., op. cit., p. 35]
> >
> >1791 (21 Nov) ��� William Cloud sold 640 acres on north side of Holston
River to William Cocke for 200 pounds Virginia currency. The deed was
registered on 8th August, 1792. Witnessed by W. Gillim, W. Owen and W.
Donelson. [Hawkins County Deed Book No. 1, 1788 ��� 1800, p. 138]
> >
> >1793 (5 May) ��� Isaac Cloud, Grant No. 341 for 640 acres in Hawkins
County. [Hawkins Co., TN, Deed Book 3, p.191]
> >
> >1793 (10 Jun) - For 200 lbs, Isaac Cloud of Rutherford Co., NC, sold
Joseph Cloud of Hawkins Co., TN, 160 acres on the N. side of the Holston,
known as the Blue Springs. Witnessed by Jas. McCarty, Jason Cloud, Wm.
Condery. [Hawkins Co., TN, op. cit., p. 93]
> >
> >1793 (9 Sept) ��� ���For 60 lbs, Isaac Cloud of Rutherford Co., NC, sold
Jno. Henderson of Hawkins Co. 44 1/2 acres on N side of Holston where J.H.
now lives. Wit: Benjn. Cloud, Wm. Henderson.��� [Hawkins Co., TN, op.
cit., p. 136]
> >
> >1793 (23 Oct) - Isaac Cloud assigned to ? (name illegible) 25 acres in
Hawkins Co., TN, on the north side of the Holston River. [ ? Grant 451,
Entry 516, Book 80, p. 290]
> >
> >1794 (28 March) - For $400, Isaac Cloud of Rutherford Co., NC, sold
Benjamin Cloud of Hawkins Co. 160 acres on N side of Holston River, above
mouth of Poor Valley Creek. Wit: Shadrack Hale, Wm. Henderson. [Hawkins
Co., TN, op. cit., p. 149]
> >
> >1795 (25 Apr) ��� Joseph Cloud, of the County of Hawkins and Territory
South of the Ohio, sold 230 acres to James Armstrong of Hawkins County for
the sum of 257 pounds. The land was located on the north side of Holston
River on the waters of Poor Valley Creek adjoining the lines of Richard
Mitchell, Joel Dyer and others. The deed was registered on 15th March,
1796. Witnessed by Henry Rowan and Moses Rhea. [Tennessee Records of
Hawkins County, Deed Book No. 1, 1788 ��� 1800, p. 190]
> >
> >1795 (28 May) ��� ���Jason Cloud to W. Cocke, registered 10th February,
1799. Know all men by these presents that I Jason Cloud for and in
consideration of the full and just sum of one thousand dollars to me in
hand paid by William Cocke the receipt whereof I do hereby acknowledge hath
bargained sold enfeoffd (sic) and confirmed unto William a certain tract or
parcel of land lying in the county of Hawkins containing six hundred and
forty acres be the same more or less to have and to hold the said bargained
premises from me my heirs and assigns or from any person claiming by from
or under me which said land was granted unto the said Jas. Cloud the 20th
day of September 1787 and No. 432 and bounded as follows beginning at a
leaning beech on the south side of Holston River then with the meander down
the said River to a poplar and black oak on a Cliff of rocks at the lower
and thence south one hundred and forty six poles to a white oak then east
three hundred poles !
> > to a stake then north three hundred and five poles to a stake then west
one hundred poles to the beginning and known by the name of the little
horse shoe which said land together with appurtenances I do by these
presents grant unto the said William Cocke his heirs and Co from me and my
heirs and Co or from all manner of persons claiming by from or under me as
witness my hand and seal this 28th day of May, 1795.��� (Signed) Jason
Cloud (Seal) Signed sealed and delivered in the presence of Joshua
Allison, Jacob Dyer. Hawkins County November term, 1798. This deed was
proven in open court, Let it be registered.��� Richard Mitchell, Clerk.
[Hawkins County Deed Book, p. 276]
> >
> >1795 (15 Aug) ��� Joseph Cloud and John Medcaff did a survey on both
sides of Caney Fork on the waters of Poor Valley Creek for John Laithem,
assignee of Samuel Reeves. McNamara, Billie R. Hawkins County Tennessee
Grant Books 1 & 2, 1787 ��� 1819, p 191]
> >
> >1801 (22 Dec) -- For $13 1/3, Joseph Cloud to Robert Coile, both of
Hawkins Co., TN, sells 150 acres on Hickory Cove, adj. Joel Gillenwater.
Wit: Benjamin Cloud, John Denny. (Hawkins Co., TN. Deed Book 3, p. 47)
> >
> >1802 (16 Dec) ��� To Isaac Cloud, Grant No. 870, Warrant No. 88, for 640
acres in Hawkins County. [Hawkins County Deed Book C, p. 409]
> >
> >1808 (19 Mar) - For $1,000., Isaac Cloud of Rutherford Co., NC, sells
100 acres on Holston River, known as Cables Island, to Mark Mitchell of
Rutherford Co. (NC or TN?). Witnesses: Arthur Cable, John W. Flowers,
Isaac Cloud, Jr. [Hawkins Co., TN, Deed Book 6, p. 351]
>
>
>
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Cecil,
I've looked carefully at the page you referenced on Bruce's site.
What is it you see there that makes your thoughts turn to our
Jeremiah and his relation to the rest of the Cloud clan?
I looked for references to Georgia and/or Twiggs/Wilkerson/Wilkes
counties and saw nothing. ... well, not entirely true -- there is
a reference there ... "Nathaniel Folsom ... came with his parents from North Carolina to Georgia around 1774".
Is it the story of John Cloud marrying Cherokee Betsy Lacy?
Apparently John married Betsy about 1798 .... Bruce says their
eldest, William, was born that year. But recent FGS mailed to me
from Nata Oneal Cloud alleges that Jeremiah was born 1789. I don't
know where she got that birth date ?? (Jeremiah is her 2-g-grandfather).
I have always wondered but what we weren't closely related to
the Louisiana bunch (Bob & Pat Cloud, et al), but have nothing other
than a hunch. Perhaps one of John's siblings / half-siblings?
Did Jeremiah know about the death of Daniel at the Alamo? Did
he know they were related?
Maybe we ought to be looking into John's siblings for whom there
is no documentation -- maybe one that followed his brother John
into the Indian territory of Georgia and also married a Cherokee
girl. Your and my distinguished good looks may come from a
Cherokee ancestry (we sure don't want to look like Prince Charles).
Tom
P.S. -- It is becoming obvious to me that referring to the
area where John lived and where Jeremiah was born as Twiggs
county must have been common-place -- even 30 years before
it was formally called that. .... I am going to post a query
to the GATWIGGS forum about that. That would at least settle
our questions about where Jeremiah was born.
At 05:44 PM 9/13/2005, Cecil Stokes <CStokes(a)hiwaay.net> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>This Cloud has been one of my top candidates for a paternity suit on behalf of our ggg-GF Jeremiah Cloud for some time based on what Bruce Eans has posted. His latest is: http://www.intersurf.com/~bevans/My%20Indian%20Roots/My%20Indian%20Blood.htm
>
>Regarding the William Cloud who died in TN in about 1841: This sounds a lot like the William Cloud for whom Cloud's Cove in Madison County, AL, is named. One of his decendants owns the place. I hope we can get him into DNA project.
>
>Cec
>
>in response to what Tom Cloud wrote:
>
>>I am reading the Pension application of John Cloud, RS (1740-1840),
>>husband of Betsey Lacey.
>>
>>... "In the year 1776 as this declarent believes he volunteered in the militia of South Carolina under General Williams. .... At this time he resided in what was then called Wilkes county, State of Georgia."
>>
>>This is significant to Texas Jeremiah researchers because:
>>
>>1 - Jeremiah Cloud's obituary says he was born in Twiggs county,
>>GA about 1784.
>>
>>2 - Twiggs county had not yet been formed, that area being off-
>>limits to white settlers at that time.
>>
>>3 - This is the only other Cloud I know of who has claimed to
>>be from that area, at about the same time -- John up to 1776
>>and Jeremiah being born there in 1784.
>>
>>4 - John also had a son named Jeremiah (didn't they all??), born
>>about 1789.
>>
>>The pension application continues:
>>
>>...."In the same winter or early the next spring he enlisted ... for eighteen months. ... At the time he enlisted he belonged in the State of Georgia as before stated. ... He ... received a discharge ... he lived in his father's house in Georgia. When the house was burned by the Tories his discharge (as on support) was burned with it. During this time he was stationed in a fort on the Aquchee River. After his discharge he returned home where the people were all then forted to protect themselves from Tories & Indians. ..... He then belonged in Georgia, same county as before mentioned, but were all now from home into the Fort. During this tour he marched from Wilkes county, Georgia to the Cherokee Twons."
>>
>>.... "The next tour he performed was in the Militia of Georgia, as a volunteer under General Clark. He marched fro South Carolina to Carr's Fort in Wilkes county, in Georgia. ... The next tour ... He marched during this tour from Wilkes county, in Georgia to Augusta ...?
>>
>>
>>
>>... now this last (maybe) provides further clues.
>>
>>5 - Twiggs county wasn't formed until 1809 (taken from the Creek cession of 1803). John Cloud claimed to have lived there in 1776 and before, 33 years prior to that!
>>
>>6 - Twiggs county was first Wilkinson county (after the 1803 Creek cession).
>>
>>7 - John refers to Wilkes county, but it was not called that until after 1777, being called St. Paul parish prior to that.
>>
>>
>>Jeremiah researchers -- what do you think?
>>
>>Tom Cloud
I am reading the Pension application of John Cloud, RS (1740-1840),
husband of Betsey Lacey.
... "In the year 1776 as this declarent believes he volunteered in the militia of South Carolina under General Williams. .... At this time he resided in what was then called Wilkes county, State of Georgia."
This is significant to Texas Jeremiah researchers because:
1 - Jeremiah Cloud's obituary says he was born in Twiggs county,
GA about 1784.
2 - Twiggs county had not yet been formed, that area being off-
limits to white settlers at that time.
3 - This is the only other Cloud I know of who has claimed to
be from that area, at about the same time -- John up to 1776
and Jeremiah being born there in 1784.
4 - John also had a son named Jeremiah (didn't they all??), born
about 1789.
The pension application continues:
...."In the same winter or early the next spring he enlisted ... for eighteen months. ... At the time he enlisted he belonged in the State of Georgia as before stated. ... He ... received a discharge ... he lived in his father's house in Georgia. When the house was burned by the Tories his discharge (as on support) was burned with it. During this time he was stationed in a fort on the Aquchee River. After his discharge he returned home where the people were all then forted to protect themselves from Tories & Indians. ..... He then belonged in Georgia, same county as before mentioned, but were all now from home into the Fort. During this tour he marched from Wilkes county, Georgia to the Cherokee Twons."
.... "The next tour he performed was in the Militia of Georgia, as a volunteer under General Clark. He marched fro South Carolina to Carr's Fort in Wilkes county, in Georgia. ... The next tour ... He marched during this tour from Wilkes county, in Georgia to Augusta ...?
... now this last (maybe) provides further clues.
5 - Twiggs county wasn't formed until 1809 (taken from the Creek cession of 1803). John Cloud claimed to have lived there in 1776 and before, 33 years prior to that!
6 - Twiggs county was first Wilkinson county (after the 1803 Creek cession).
7 - John refers to Wilkes county, but it was not called that until after 1777, being called St. Paul parish prior to that.
Jeremiah researchers -- what do you think?
Tom Cloud
>Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:08:09 -0600
>From: RALPH L HAYES <RALPHHAYES1(a)msn.com>
>Source: STUBBS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Joseph Stubbs and Zilpha Hayes
>
>Here are some references to this couple:
>1. "Belmont County, Ohio 1810 Tax List", as found in Esther W. Powell, Early Ohio Tax Records, p 34. Joseph is listed in Warren Township. Info also found in 1810 US Census Index as
>Name: Stubbs, Joseph Year: 1810
>County: BELMONT CO. State: OH
>Page: 026 Location: WARREN TWP
>Record Type: TAX LIST
>
>2. 1811 Resident Tax List for Warren Twp., Belmont County, info from http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~saharmon/1811warren.htm<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~saharmon/1811warren.htm>, 30 Aug 2002
>WARREN Township
>Names of Proprietors Quantity & Rates Range Twp Section Dollars Cents
> 1 2 3
>Stubbs, Joseph 320 6 8 3 3 20
>
>3. 1812 Resident Tax in Warren Twp., Belmont County, OH info from http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~saharmon/<http://freepages.historyrootsweb.com/~saharmon/>, 30 Aug 2002
>Names of Proprietory Quantity & Rates Range Township Section Dollars Cents 1 2 3
>Stubbs, Joseph 320 6 8 3 3 20
>
>4. 1813 Resident Tax List for Warren Twp., Belmont Co., OH, info found at http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~saharmon/1813Warren%20Township-tab...<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~saharmon/1813Warren%20Township-tab...>, 30 Aug 2002
>Joseph STUBBS 320a R6 T8 S3
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>5. 1814 Resident Tax List for Warren Twp., Belmont Co., OH found at http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~saharmon/1813Warren%20Township-tab...<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~saharmon/1813Warren%20Township-tab...>, 8 Aug 2003
>Joseph STUBS 320a R6T8S34. Rev. Silas Emmett Lucas, Jr., Index to the Headright and Bounty Grants of Georgia 1756-1908, (Georgia Genealogical Reprinrs, Vidalia, Ga.), p 632. Joseph Stubbs is listed as receiving 100 acres in Wilkes County in 1788 and 100 acres in Columbia County in 1794. I assume this is my Joseph.
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>6. R.J. Taylor Jr. Foundation, An Index to Georgia Tax Digests 1789- 1799, Vol 1, (The Reprint Co: Spartanburg, SC, 1986), p 70. Joseph is listed in Warren County, Ga. in 1798.
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>7. William Wade Hinshaw, Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol 1, (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1969), pp 1045 and 1050. Joseph Stubbs was condemned on 1-10(Oct)-1785 for marrying out of unity in Wrightsborough. See Davis's work for more discussion on the matter. The children of Joseph and Zilpha are listed in the Wrightsborough MM, Ga. along with birth dates. Joseph is not listed and was probably born in Ohio. Abraham and Zilpha are listed and probably died prior to the date of the will. Rhoda was born in December 1802 which supports their move to Ohio in 1803.
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>8. Robert Scott Davis, Jr., Quaker Records in Georgia: Wrightsborough 1772-1792, Friendsborough 1776-1777, (Roswell, GA: WH Wolfe Associates, 1986),(copies available from Agusta Genealogical Society), pp 103, 151,161, and 163. More information is given than is found in Hinshaw's work. On 1st day of the 10th Mo. 1785 at Wrightsborough MM, Ga. is recorded the following entry: "Joseph Stubbs appeared here and offered a paper of acknowledgement for his Disorderly Marriage and also for having Carnal Knowledge of her that is now his wife before Marriage ..." Joseph and Zilpha had relation in 1783 in order for Mary Stubbs to be born in Jun 1784, a considerable time from the condemnation in 1785. Usually condemnation occurs as soon as the marriage is noted or the girl is noticeably pregnant. I do not have a civil marriage record but the Quaker entry indicates that a marriage took place probably in 1785. Also included are a couple of letters that indicate that Joseph was single in W!
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> ightsborough in 1782. The children of Joseph and Zilpha Stubbs are also listed from the Wrightsborough minutes.
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>9. "Warren County Deeds Book 'A'" as found in Georgia Genealogical Magazine, 1967, p 48. Joseph Stubbs is a witness to a land transaction in 1787 from James Rowland to Peter Cox, both of Richmond County. Land was on the Little and Big Sweetwater Creeks.
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>10. William F. Medlin, Quaker Families of South Carolina and Georgia, (Ben Franklin Press, 1982), pp 71 and 123. The book lists the children of Joseph and Zilpha along with year birth dates probably taken from Wrightsborough Monthly Meeting records.
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>11. William Wade Hinshaw, Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol IV, (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1973), p 446. The children are listed again at Stillwater MM, Ohio along with their birth dates and the death date of Abraham. There are differences in the dates for Rachel, Jacob, Deborah, Elizabeth, Rebecca, Zlpha, Eliza, and Rhoda. Joseph is listed for the first time. Rhoda is listed as being born on 3 Dec 1803. If the family moved to Ohio in 1803, then Rhoda was probably born in 1802 since she was listed in the Wrightsborough minutes. Since I believe Rhoda's birth is in error, I will go with the dates from Wrightsborough. Also listed are the marriages for Deborah to Robert Vernon on 6-11(Nov)-1811; Rebecca to John Patton on 27- 11(Nov)-1816; Eliza to Elijah Hanson on 26-8(Aug)-1818; Rhoda to James Vernon on 4-6(Jun)-1823; Isaac to Elizabeth Doudna along with three of their children; Sarah Hall (formerly Stubbs) was dismissed for marrying contrary to !
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> iscipline on 31-10(Oct)-1809; Elizabeth Cox (formerly Stubbs) was dismissed for marrying contrary to discipline on 27-4(Apr)- 1813. Joseph died on 1-5(May)-1816 and was buried at Stillwater. Deborah and Rhoda's marriages are also listed in the LDS Church IGI.
>Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Ohio
> [p.137] CONCORD MONTHLY MEETING
> page 160
> 1805, 7, 23. Joseph & w, Zilphah, & ch, Rachel, Sarah, Jacob, Isaac, Deborah, Abraham, Elizabeth, Rebecca, Iddo, Eliza & Rhoda, rocf Wrightsborough MM, Ga., dtd 1805, 4, 6
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>12. A.T. McKelvey, Centennial History of Belmont County, Ohio and Representative Citizens, (Chicago: Biographical Publishing Co., 1903), p 218. He mentions the arrival of Joseph Stubbs and daughter Deborah in 1803 from Georgia.
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>13. Esther W. Powell, Tombstone Inscriptions & Family Records of Belmont County, Ohio, (Akron, O: author, 1969), p 279. An entry under Friends Stillwater Meeting House stated that Joseph Stubbs and Dau. Deborah came with Friends in 1803.
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>14. Dempsey O. Sheppard, The Story of Barnsville, Ohio 1808-1940, (F.J. Heer Printing Co., 1942), p 16. Joseph Stubbs arrived in Warren Township in 1803 from Georgia. The book also gives information on life in the area at that time.
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>15. Letter from Thomas E. Ferguson, Auditor of State, Columbus, OH 43216 to author, original in posession of author. Joseph obtained 161.44 acres in Somerset Twp., Belmont Co, O (R6, T7, S13) on 6 Sep 1815 and another 161.50 acres (R6 T7, S14) on 1 Dec 1815. On a map found at the National Archives in Record Group 49 (Bureau of Land Management), in M477 or M478 is found a Plat of District of Steubenville in ca 1805. A Joseph Stibbs is listed.
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>16. Robert Scott Davis, Jr., Quaker Records in Georgia: Wrightsborough 1772-1793, Friendsborough 1776-1777, (Roswell, Ga.: W.H. Wolfe, 1986), pp 4,6,13,20,23,25,40,42-47,53, 56-59,62-66, 68-69,73-75,76,78,82,84,89,90,91,99,101,102,113,114,117-118,120, 122, 127-129, 136-138, 141, 143,145, 147,151,152, 161, and 163. This informative book contains the men's Monthly Meeting of Bush River, SC and Wrightsborough, Ga, as well as general information of the Quakers during the Revolutionary War.
> In a letter from John Townsend and Joseph Rowe, dated 9-1(Jan)-1782, he stated that 200 people [I assume only Quakers included.] lived in and around Wrightsborough to include John Stubbs, wife and 11 children, Thomas Stubbs, single, Joseph Stubbs, single, John Carson and wife, and Esther Carson. [I assume Thomas and Joseph Stubbs to be children of Thomas Stubbs, Jr. I also assume John Carson to be the one m. to Esther Stubbs Cloud who had a dau named Esther.] John Stubbs, Thomas Stubbs, Joseph Stubbs, and John Carson were also mentioned in a letter dated 2-1(Jan)-1782 telling of their sad plight during the war.
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>17. "Last Will and Testament of Joseph Stubbs", 19 Apr 1816, Will Book A, pp 276 and 277, Belmont County Probate Judge, St. Clairville, OH 43950, certified copy in possession of author. Joseph gave $80 each to his daughters Mary Hays, Sarah Hall, Rachel Hinson, Deborah Varnom, Elizabeth Cox, Rebecca Stubbs, Eliza Stubbs and Rhoda Stubbs. He gave to his sons as follows: Isaac, 40 acres, smith tools and $80; Jacob, a sorrel horse and to Jacob's children- land (he gave it to Jacob's children even though Jacob could live on it until his death); Iddo-land and a grey mare; Joseph-land and a grey horse; Zelpha was his wife and was allowed to live on the farm the rest of her life. This disagrees with a note in Hathaway's book (no. 13) that she died in Elkton in 1807. She is also listed in the 1820 census of Belmont County. Rebecca, Eliza and Rhoda each received a cow, bed and a kettle. Abraham and daughter Zilpha were not mentioned. Iddo, Joseph, Rebecca, Eliza and Rhoda were not !
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> f age.
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>18. Stillwater MM House Burial records, Barnesville, Ohio, info from Lewis Miller <lmiller(a)worldnet.att.net<mailto:lmiller@worldnet.att.net>>, subject: Stubbs Surname, dated 1 Jun 1999
>Joseph Stubbs d 5-1-1816
>Buried Stillwater Cemetery -- NO marker
>
>19. Daniel Nathan Crumpton, Cemeteries and Genealogy Warren County, Georgia and Immediate Vicinity, (W.H. Wolfe Assn: Roswell, GA, 1987), pp 170,180, and 220. Joseph Stubb was mentioned in a land transaction in BK A, p 153 on 2 Jun 1795; a witness on 17 May 1794 in BK A, p373 and on 17 May 1794 in BK A, p377. Peter Cox, his step-father, was the buyer in both cases. Joseph was a witness on 17 May 1794 per BK A, p 383. He was a witness to Peter Cocks' purchase (I assume Cox) on 1 Oct 1790 per BK A, p387. Joseph was a witness on 23 Aug 1799 per BK C, p 9. Other Joseph Stubbs in 1809 and 1813 was probably the son of John and Esther Stubbs.
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>20. 1820 U.S. Census, Belmont County (Warren Township), Ohio, National Archives Microfilm M33, roll 86, p 272.
> Name 0 10 16 16 26 45 0 10 16 26 45
> 10 16 18 25 44 up 10 15 25 44 up
>Warren Twp.
>Stubbs, Iddo - - - 1 - - - - 1 - -
> " , Isaac 2 - - - 1 - 2 - - 1 -
> " ,Jacob 3 - - - 1 - 1 - - 1 -
> " , Zilpha - 1 - - - - - - 1 - 1
>The children listed with Zilpha would be Joseph and Rhoda.
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>Ralph L. Hayes
>10533 Crestridge Ct. NW
>Albuquerque, NM 87114
>alternate e-mail rlhayes(a)juno.com<mailto:rlhayes@juno.com>
>Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 15:28:24 -0600
>From: LeeSh <leesh(a)mytownisp.com>
>Source: OKOKMULG-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Deaths in McIntosh County in 1960
>
>The following list of names is made up of individuals who died or are buried in McIntosh county. All of these individuals died in the year 1960. Some of the individuals have added information. I am looking for more informations such as an obit, family, someone researching the line etc. I would like to add this info to the McIntosh County page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmcinto/ . If you have info on one or more of these individuals and would like to see it posted or contributied for everyone to use please contact me at leesh(a)mytownisp.com or mcintoshco(a)gmail.com . You can check the birth and death dates of these individuals on the McIntosh County site.
>http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmcinto/obits/1960_misc_deaths.htm
>
>
>Thank You
>
>Shelley D. McBride~Lynch
>Coordinator~McIntosh Co. Ok~OkGenWeb
>http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmcinto/
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>ADAIR, Martha Jane,
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>ALLEN, Edd
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>ALLEN, Thomas T., KY Sgt Co L 21 Inf WWI
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>ALLISON, Robert A.
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>ANDERSON, Jorene S., (s/w William)
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>ARNOLD, Homer, OKLAHOMA PVT US ARMY WWII,
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>ATKISSION, John William
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>BAILY William N
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>BASCUE, Aron J., s/w Toni
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>BEAVER, Roman, OKLAHOMA QUARTERMASTER CORPS WWI,
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>BILES, Joseph W., s/w Ida
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>BRAND, George L, AR Pvt Co M 102 Inf WWI Ph
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>BRASSFIELD, Charles S., s/w Gertie
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>Brazell, John Edward
>Sex: M
>Birth: 14 Aug 1891 in Arkansas
>Death: 24 Feb 1960
>Burial: New Checotah Cem,
>Father: Henry C. BRAZELL
>Mother: Mary Catherine "Molly" LONG
>Marriage 1 Married Eva May BLACK
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>BRINSFIELD Jim
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>BRISTOW, J. M., s/w Elizabeth
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>BUCK, Lue D
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>BULLARD, Floyd C, s/w Mary
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>BURNHAM Linnie
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>Burn___ Lava___
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>BURNS Arcell
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>CALVERT, Virgil
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>CAPEHART, Martha Gean
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>Cesar, Arch Montgomery
>Sex: M
>Birth: 8 JAN 1887 in Canadian,Pittsburg,Oklahoma
>Death: 8 OCT 1960 in Checotah,
>Burial: 9 OCT 1960 Greenwood Father: Duff Henry CESAR
>Mother: Mary Ellen PRINCEMarriage 1 Alpha Myrtle CLARK
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>CLARK, M. H., 31 Oct 1883, 10 Jan 1960, (mother) s/w W. A
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>. CLEMENTS, Sena (our sister)
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>COMBS, Thomas C., s/w Katie
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>COMBS, Turner
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>COOK, George W., s/w Nora
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>COWAN, Laura M.,
>Sex: F
>Birth: 1 JAN 1888 in Deer, Newton Co, Arkansas
>Death: 27 FEB 1960 in Eufaula, McIntosh Co, Oklahoma
>Burial: UNKNOWN Checotah Cemetery
>Father: James Basil Sparks
>Mother: Mary Frances Breedlove
>Marriage 1 James Millard Cowen
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>CRABTREE, Faye C.
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>CRANE, Luta S.,
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>Crone, Collin David
>Sex: M
>Birth: 17 Dec 1879 in Wood County, Texas
>Death: 19 Apr 1960
>Burial: Hanna, McIntosh, Oklahoma, Oak Hill Cemetery
>Father: Franklin Monroe CRONE
>Marriage 1 Madge Alvietine BYNUM
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>CUNNINGHAM, Gus O., s/w Dee
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>CURTIS, Larry,
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>DANIEL, G. J.,
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>DICE, Bill
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>DILLARD Jonell
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>Dover, Lona Lee
>Sex: F
>Birth: 10 MAY 1902 in McIntosh County, Oklahoma
>Death: 19 APR 1960 in McIntosh County, OklahomaFather: James Calloway Dover
>Mother: Martha Claudia Corbin
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>DOYLE, Bessie Lee, s/w W. H
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>DUKE, Mordica, s/w Emma
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>DUVAL, Sophia P.
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>Emerson, Noah Webster
>Sex: M
>Birth: 5 DEC 1904 in Waldron,,Arkansas
>Death: 31 JAN 1960 in Checotah,,Oklahoma
>Father: William Savannah EMERSON
>Mother: Mary Elizabeth SIZEMORE
>Marriage 1 Pocahontas STORM
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>FISHER Susan
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>FOLEY, Rosa L.,(same pad as Cornelius F.)
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>FORD, Dona Mae
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>FOSTER, Joseph Franklin
>(son of Joseph and Martha Ann
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>FOUT, Agnes G., s/w George @ Greenlawn
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>FRAZIER, Michael Jess
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>FUNBURG, Jim
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>GANN, Minnie,
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>GOAD Susie Ellen
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>Goad, Thomas E
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>GOINES, Thomas J., s/w Annie
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>GRAY, Lona Lee,
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>GREENE, James, OKLAHOMA CPL US ARMY WWI PH,
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>GUINN Lydia
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>HAGAN, John W., OK pfc Co B 31 inf (???????)
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>HALL, Martha Jane nee Carr
>Sex: F
>Birth: 31 JAN 1888 in ,McIntosh,OK
>Death: 9 JUN 1960 in Sand Springs,Osage,OK
>Burial: JUN 1960 Sand Springs Cem,Sand Springs,OK
>Married: 14 JUL 1911 in Eufaula,McIntosh,OK
>Charles Franklin HALL
>
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>HALL, G. C. "Hop", 1888 - 1960 (s/w Irene)
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>HARDIN, Sam J., s/w Mary E
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>Harkleroad, Julia Anna
>Sex: F
>Birth: 1876
>Death: 1960 in Checotah, McIntosh, OklahomaMarriage 1 Walker Everett TODD
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>HARPER, H. B., s/w Allie
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>HELM, Pearlie M., s/w Charles
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>HENDERSON, Minnie, s/w W H
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>HENSON Katie B. s/w James
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>HIGHERS, Sallie Elizabeth,
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>Howell, Mazie Ella
>Sex: F
>Birth: 10 Jun 1886
>Death: 27 Sep 1960 in Checotah, McIntosh County, Marriage 1 George Washington NORWOOD
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>HUGHES, Earl Jessie
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>HURT, Theresa Camilla, (s/w Joseph Clarke)
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>JENNINGS, Richard T., s/w Mary V.
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>JIMSEY, Unah, OKLAHOMA CO F 111 AMMUNITION TN WWI,
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>JOHNSON, Lorene
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>JONES Ara s/w B N
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>KELLEY, John, s/w Clara @Greenlawn
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>KIESOW, Charles N.,
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>KILGORE, Hugh A.,OK SGT US ARMY WWI
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>KING, Millie
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>Kitchen, Cara Alice
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>KOCH, Callie J.,
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>Lackey Emma V
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>LANG, Sarah,
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>Letterman, George Henry
>Sex: M
>Birth: 26 Feb 1881 in Arkansas
>Death: 15 Jun 1960
>Burial: Jun 1960 Greenwood Cemetery, Eufaula, McIntosh Co., OK, Section J
>1930 US Census: Oklahoma, McIntosh Co., Eufaula, District 13, Father: Jonas (Jonahas) Calvert LETTERMAN
>Mother: Isabella Ellen (Ellen) WILLIAMS
>Marriage 1 Lutisha "Tishey" CLOUD
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>LINSEY, O. R.
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>LOVELL, Samuel M., s/w Lucinda
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>Mankins, Lydia
>Sex: F
>Birth: 20 JAN 1874 in Washington Co AR
>Death: 27 SEP 1960 in Eufaula, McIntosh Co OK
>Father: Walter MANKINS
>Mother: Lavinia Jane "Vina" OSBORNE
>Marriage 1 Lewis GUINN
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>MANSELL, Angelia
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>MARTIN Gertrude, s/w George M.
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>METCALFE, Alice W.,
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>Miller, Herbert W
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>Mitchell, Milton Carroll
>Sex: M
>Birth: 31 AUG 1875 in Winston Co., AL
>Death: 17 AUG 1960 in Checotah, McIntosh Co., OK
>Burial: 21 AUG 1960 Greenlawn Cem., Checotah, McIntosh Co., OKFather: Samuel M MITCHELL
>Mother: Catherine Esther CAGLE
>Marriage 1 Lucy BLANKENSHIP
>Marriage 2 Ann Eliza HORTON
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>MITCHELL, Ola Mae,s/w Frank
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>MOORE, Marcus B.,
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>MORROW, John U, s/w Mary
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>NAGNEES, George
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>NORWOOD, Mazie E,
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>NUNN E. Howard
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>Parker, Delmar Sr
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>PARKER, Kate Morley,
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>PAYNE, Frank, 15 May 1873, 21 Jun 1960, s/w Lydia
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>PATTERSON, Jayhu
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>Pendley, Warren G (Warnie)
>Sex: M
>Birth: 6 AUG 1920 in Hanna McIntosh Co. OK.
>Death: 22 FEB 1960 in Hanna McIntosh Co. OK.
>info by Melva Best: First wife: Adell Lindsey, from Arora, TX., Age 20 and Warnie, age 24, Married 7-13-1945, Eufaula, OK., According to McIntosh Co. Marriage Records.
>CPL CO H 180 INFANTRY W W II BSM
>Father: Elmer Travis PENDLEY
>Mother: Anna M BEAN
>Marriage 1 Louise CAMPBELL
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>PIPKINS, Jay D., OKLAHOMA SGT BTRY A 344 FLD ARTY WWI
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>PITTMAN Laurel
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>RAPP, Artie Hardin,
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>REUBELT, Ollie E., (s/w Horace B.)
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>ROCK, Wynona
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>ROWELL, Jessie Pearl
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>Saxon, Nancy Elizabeth
>Marriage 1 William Pleasant EARLES
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>SCUDDER, Jacob M.
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>Sessions, Ida E
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>SHEPPARD, Earnest Everett, s/w Willie
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>Sims, Willie Ray
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>SISK, Jesse W.,s/w Minerva
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>SISEMORE, Andrew J., s/w Effie
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>SISEMORE, Otto, s/w Estelle
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>SMITH, Arthur B., s/w Ethel
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>SMITH, George P.,
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>SMITH Jim
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>Sparks, Laura Melissa or COWAN, Laura M.,
>Sex: F
>Birth: 1 JAN 1888 in Deer, Newton Co, Arkansas
>Death: 27 FEB 1960 in Eufaula, McIntosh Co, Oklahoma
>Burial: UNKNOWN Checotah Cemetery
>Father: James Basil Sparks
>Mother: Mary Frances Breedlove
>Marriage 1 James Millard Cowen
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>TABOR, Mamie A., 17 Oct 1867, 8 Dec 1960,
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>TITSWORTH, Ruth Ray
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>TODD, Julia Anna, 1876, 1960, s/w Walker
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>TRUITT, Rachel
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>TUCKER, Myrtle J., s/w George
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>TURLEY, J. L. "Les",
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>TYNER, Estella,
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>USSREY, Mattie M.
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>WALTERS, Oma G.,
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>WATERS, Arthur,
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>WATSON Jessie Anna s/w John
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>WEST, Margaret E. (Welch),
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>WHITE, Grover L.,
>OK Pvt Co F 309 Engnrs WWI
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>WILLIAMS, Baby, 28 Sep 1960, only date, our son
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>WILLIAMS, D. D.,s/w Carrie
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>WILLIAMS Emma
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>Williams, Sallie Elizabeth ALLISON
>Sex: F
>Birth: 13 Dec 1872 in Big Coon, Jackson, Alabama
>Death: 30 Jul 1960 in Eufaula, Oklahoma
>Father: James Joseph ALLISON
>Mother: Mary Elizabeth ALLEN
>Marriage 1 Jacob Newton WILLIAMS
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>WILLIAMS, Randall Wilson
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>Wilson, Elmer Marion Jr
>Sex: M
>Birth: May 14, 1938 in Texanna, McIntosh Co., OK
>Death: December 28, 1960 in Texanna, McIntosh Co., OK
>Burial: Eufaula, McIntosh Co., OK
>Father: Elmer Marion WILSON
>Mother: Ruby Mae Eunice SHORT
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>WILSON, William M., OK Cpl Co M 180 Inf Korea
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>WOOD, Mary Allie
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>WOODARD, W E, s/w Leona
>Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:06:50 -0600
>From: NBJHENRY(a)aol.com
>Source: MOSTONE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [MOSTONE-L] Cloud
>
>
>Hello,
>
>My husband's mother was a CLOUD before marrying HENRY. I have done some
>research on the CLOUDS and have the following info:
>
>Joseph Cloud, birth: 1783 in Henry County, Virginia
> (Father & Mother were William Cloud, b: 17Sep. 1750 in Anson County, NC
> Elizabeth Morgan)
>Joseph married Jane Carpenter and their children are:
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> Burrell CLOUD, b: in Claiborne County, TN
> Elizabeth (Betsy) Cloud
> Female 1 Cloud
> Female 2 Cloud
> Greenberry Cloud
> James Madison Cloud
> Malinda Cloud, born in Claiborne County, TN
> Mary "Polly" Cloud, b: 1805
> Benjamin Cloud, b: 1806 in Claiborne County TN
> William Henry Cloud bL 1813 in Claiborne County, TN
> Calvin Cloud, b. 28, June 1821 in Claiborne County, TN
>
>NOTE: Joseph CLOUD is my husband's 3-great grandfather
>
>My husband's mother was Nancy Vinia CLOUD Henry
>
>Hope this may help some,
>
>Betty J. Henry
>Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:30:45 -0600
>From: irish.lass(a)cox.net
>Source: MOSTONE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [MOSTONE-L] Cloud
>
>
>Hello Mrs. Humphrey,
>
>My ggg-grandparents, James Madison Cloud and Eliza Mills, settled in Stone County around 1856. His parents are Joseph Cloud and Jane Carpenter, so Benjamin is his brother. That would make us 5th cousins if I'm counting correctly. I got this email at work, but I'll check my research when I get home tonight and let you know what I have on Benjamin.
>
>James Madison and two of his children died in 1862. Eliza and the 3 other kids moved to Christian, then Greene Counties.
>Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:40:57 -0600
>From: Shumphrey5(a)aol.com
>Source: MOSTONE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Cloud
>
>
>I'm descended from Benjamin Cloud & Matilda Tucker ( My ggg-grandparents ).
>Benjamin was the son of Joseph Cloud & Jane Carpenter. I've recently learned
>some of Joseph's children ended up in Stone Co. Mo. I'm not sure yet if
>Benjamin & Matilda settled there. I have very little information on Benjamin & his
>children...where they settled or were deceased, marriages etc. If anyone has any
>further information on this line that they are willing to share...I would
>greatly it! I will gladly share what I can also.
> Thank You,
>Mrs. Humphrey
>Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:57:23 -0600
>From: Arrie Boyd <aefboyd(a)yahoo.com>
>Source: SCFAIRFI-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: Mary (Polly) Ruff b. 1804
>
>I am searching for any information on Mary (Polly)
>Ruff born in Fairfield Co. in 1804 died 22 Jan. 1887
>in Kershaw, SC who married Austin N. Cloud. Any help
>on this family would be greatly appreciated. Also
>researching Moore, Boyd, Bryant, Harrison, Kirkland
>from this same area. Arrie Boyd
>Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:52:15 -0600
>From: Barb Marshall <marchado(a)pacbell.net>
>Source: DRAKE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: RE: Drakes in Campbell CO, KY
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>Constance, they were closer than that. Isaac Drake of NJ moved to PA during the Rev. and enlisted under George Rogers Clark. He ended up in the Cincinatti area and lived for a number of years in Campbell CO, where he married Frances Monroe. He later moved to Howard CO, MO where he worked on the MO end of the Sante Fe Trail.
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>A Jesse Drake was in Campbell CO about 1830-1850. His daughter, Delilah married a Sutton and they later moved to MO.
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>My Drakes were just across the river in IN. Benjamin Drake, brother of my Jesse, had a daughter Nancy who married Joseph Nelson in either Campbell or Boone CO. Lots of Hoosiers crossed the river and married in KY, in either Campbell or Boone Counties.
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>You're also in CLOUD Country. My 3rd great grandfather, Isaac Drake married Elizabeth Cloud in Boone County on Christmas Eve, 1834 (I think). Though bothweere from Rising Sun, Ohio CO, IN, there were a lot of Cloud families (including her grandparents) in Campbell CO and Boone and Kenton. Be careful when you walk though those cemeteries, my ancestors will be watching you.
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>Constance Frazier <genealogyjunky(a)mac.com> wrote:
>It's so amazing to hear you all referring to my home state and Drakes! Maysville (once called Limestone) is about 30 minutes from me on the AA Hwy. It's a slice of irony to me that Mom is sitting here, a New England Drake, and down the road were Drake families!
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