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Lura, thank you for the census for Joseph CLOUD, s/o Burrell CLOUD & Polly
McCOLLOUGH. I am on the digest mode of this list, so receive messages a
little late.
Ronnie Smith straightened me out about Polly Ann being the widow of Joseph
CLOUD, s/o Burrell & Polly. I had suspected there must have been another
son of Burrell. Ronnie has confirmed that and is definitely the one you
found in Cooper Co MO. Ronnie also confirmed that Orlena, the informant on
the death certificate was a half sister of William, nee Orlena BREWER.
Incidentally, Orlena is a very common name in this group of CLOUDs &
CARPENTERs.
Thanks again for the census. I appreciate it.
Imogene Bennett
Springfield, MO
Imogene.Bennett(a)att.net
Ken Cloud asked >> Was Joseph ever called "Pioneer"<<
That is correct -- the Early Settlers clippings by P. G. Fulkerson says,
"The Pioneer Cloud of Cloud's Ferry came from Va to Cloud's Ferry on Clinch
River, which is five miles east of Howard's Quarter, at a very early day.
He married Jane Carpenter of Va. His children were: Betsy, who married
John Devault; Malinda, married James Mitchell; Polly, married Joseph Mills;
Henry, removed to Mo.; Greenbury, removed to Mo.; Calvin, removed to Mo.;
Burl; Benjamin."
Continuing research has proven that "Pioneer" Cloud was, indeed, Joseph.
Joseph died between11 Aug & 11 Nov in 1823.
The only thing in the above article which I suspect is incorrect is where he
says Jane CARPENTER came from VA -- it is my belief she came with the group
from Wilkes Co NC.
Ken mentioned that Malinda was b 1814 which is not correct. Her tombstone
gives her birth as 1806. She d in 1896 at Clever, Christian Co MO, and is
bur in Wise Hill Cem, Christian Co MO.
Imogene Bennett
Springfield, MO
Imogene.Bennett(a)att.net
Imogene....
I checked the 1860 census and came up with the following:
1860 Boonville, Cooper Cty, MO, taken 26 Jun, p. 498
Joseph Cloud, age 24, b: TN
Polly A. Cloud, age 18, b: TN
Angelina Cloud, age 1, b: TN
Your 1870 census was as follows:
District 7, Hancock, Tennessee, taken 15 Jul, p. 47
Polly Ann Cloud, age 27, b: TN
Sarah, female, age 11, b: TN
Orlena, female, age 8, b: MO
Joseph, male, age 4, b: MO
Lauriel (?), male, age 1, b: TN
Might be that the Sarah in the 1870 census is also the Angelina in the 1860
census. Sarah Angelina (or Angelina Sarah) was born in TN; then they moved to
MO where they had Orlena and Joseph (named after his father??), and then moved
back to TN where they had Lauriel in about 1869. Does not seem that Orlena
has been that common a name. So maybe the Orlena could have been Polly Ann's
daughter???
Lura
Was Joseph ever called "Pioneer" I have him listed as Pioneer (Joseph?)
Cloud married to Jane Carpenter, I list children as Malinda b 1814, Betsey,
Polly and Henry; I have no Burrell as his child. I do have Burrell marr to
Mary "Polly" McCOLLOUGH. Can anyone confirm the other children I list?
See my data at www.cloudweb.org
Ken Cloud
----- Original Message -----
From: "Imogene Bennett" <Imogene.Bennett(a)att.net>
To: <CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:45 PM
Subject: [CLOUD] Burrell CLOUD & Mary "Polly" McCOLLOUGH
> Mention was recently made on the list regarding Burrell CLOUD who was s/o
> Joseph CLOUD & Jane CARPENTER. Burrell's wife (believed to be his second
> wife) was Mary "Polly" McCOLLOUGH. She was d/o William McCULLOUGH &
> Comfort
> SLAVENS who were married 22 Nov 1806 in Greene Co TN. Mary
> McCOLLOUGH-Cloud
> married 2) 7 Nov 1844 in Claiborne Co TN to Russel BREWER.
>
> I have recently received the death certificate of Burrell & Polly's son
> named William CLOUD and it shows they were his parents. William was b 14
> Oct 1838 and d 12 Oct 1918 in Hancock Co TN from asthma and old age. The
> informant was Orlena WILLIAMS, relationship not shown.
>
> Living next door to the above William CLOUD in 1870 Hancock Co was an
> apparent widow named Polly Ann CLOUD, aged 27, and four young children,
> the
> oldest 11 years, the youngest 1 year. The oldest and youngest children
> were
> born TN -- the two in the middle were b MO.
>
> My current question is to ask if anyone knows who Polly Ann was married
> to?
> Did Burrell have another son who moved to Missouri with other family
> members that hasn't been identified?
>
> Imogene Bennett
> Springfield, MO
> Imogene.Bennett(a)att.net
>
>
>
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>
Mention was recently made on the list regarding Burrell CLOUD who was s/o
Joseph CLOUD & Jane CARPENTER. Burrell's wife (believed to be his second
wife) was Mary "Polly" McCOLLOUGH. She was d/o William McCULLOUGH & Comfort
SLAVENS who were married 22 Nov 1806 in Greene Co TN. Mary McCOLLOUGH-Cloud
married 2) 7 Nov 1844 in Claiborne Co TN to Russel BREWER.
I have recently received the death certificate of Burrell & Polly's son
named William CLOUD and it shows they were his parents. William was b 14
Oct 1838 and d 12 Oct 1918 in Hancock Co TN from asthma and old age. The
informant was Orlena WILLIAMS, relationship not shown.
Living next door to the above William CLOUD in 1870 Hancock Co was an
apparent widow named Polly Ann CLOUD, aged 27, and four young children, the
oldest 11 years, the youngest 1 year. The oldest and youngest children were
born TN -- the two in the middle were b MO.
My current question is to ask if anyone knows who Polly Ann was married to?
Did Burrell have another son who moved to Missouri with other family
members that hasn't been identified?
Imogene Bennett
Springfield, MO
Imogene.Bennett(a)att.net
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Surnames: Anders, Winn
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According to our info, John M Anders is James Melton Anders Sr. and he married Armintha "Mittie" Jane Winn
Greetings,
I am curious if anyone knew or is directly related to Geoffrey W. Cloud of Stamford, CT?
He was one of the 3000 people that lost their lives three years ago.
Peace,
JC
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Is that Burrell and Mary (Polly) McCollough? I dont have him connected to
anyone.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Hobock" <hobock(a)cox.net>
To: <CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CLOUD] JC "Jeff" Cloud - MO & OK, 1880s-1920s
> Ken, this is my line. But I have had trouble linking with other Cloud
> lines
> as well. I think James Madison Cloud links to Burrell Cloud b. 1783 VA and
> then to Joseph Cloud b.1738 VA. I could use some help on this also.
>
> Dave Hobock
> hobock(a)cox.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Cloud" <kec(a)cox.net>
> To: <CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [CLOUD] JC "Jeff" Cloud - MO & OK, 1880s-1920s
>
>
>> I have the following on JC Cloud:
>>
>> 1. James M. CLOUD-15433 (b.1830-TN)
>> sp: Eliza Wife Of James M. Cloud -15434 (b.Mar 1832-TN)
>> |-2. Liza M. CLOUD-15435 (b.1854-TN)
>> |-2. William CLOUD-15436 (b.1856-TN)
>> +-2. Jefferson C. CLOUD-15437 (b.Jul 1858-Cass Twp,Stone Co.,MO)
>> sp: Della A. Wife Of Jefferson C. Cloud -15746 (b.Nov 1884-MO)
>> |-3. Hattie O. CLOUD-15747 (b.Feb 1887-MO)
>> +-3. Elmer CLOUD-15748 (b.Dec 1891-MO)
>>
>> This info is include in my listing of Clouds I cannot connect to a known
>> Cloud Line.
>>
>> See my data at:
>> www.cloudweb.org
>>
>> Ken Cloud
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <LBLACK50(a)aol.com>
>> To: <CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CLOUD] JC "Jeff" Cloud - MO & OK, 1880s-1920s
>>
>>
>> > Monica...I did a little census research. Was unable to find much
>> > except
>> > as
>> > follows:
>> >
>> > 1910 census 4th district Tulsa, Tulsa County, OK, taken 26 Apr 1910,
> page
>> > 277B
>> >
>> > J. C. Cloud, age 53, 2nd marriage of 8 yrs, born MO, parents born USA,
>> > laborer
>> > Della, age 39, 2nd marriage of 8 yrs, born MO, parents born MO, 7
>> > children, 6
>> > living
>> > Elmer, son, age 18, single, born MO, parents born MO
>> > Jessie, son, age 5, born, OK, parents born MO
>> > Donald, son, 2, born OK, parents born MO
>> > Doan, son, 8 months, born OK, parents born MO
>> > Fanny Box, dau, age 18, single, born MO, parents born MO
>> > Guy Box, son, age 16, born MO, parents born MO
>> > Opal, dau, age 13, born MO, parents born MO
>> >
>> > Obviously since Jessie was your great grandmother, an error was made
>> > indicating she was a male. I was unable to find J.C. anywhere else.
>> > Although, based
>> > on this census it would appear he was born in the 1850's vice 1870's.
> In
>> > the
>> > 1880 census, closest I came was a Joseph Cloud age 22 in Cass, Stone
>> > County,
>> > MO. His father's name was also Joseph. But since you indicate the J
> must
>> > have
>> > stood for Jeff or Jeffrey, I did not capture the total information.
>> >
>> > Good Luck...
>> >
>> > Lura
>> >
>> >
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>> > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>> Check out the Cloud Family mirror site: http://mykindred.com/cloud
>>
>
>
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>
Monica...okay, so I did one more search on 1920 census and appear to have
found him also.
1920 census, Tulsa, Tulsa County, OK, p. 1A
J.C. Cloud, age 46 or 48 or 43, born MO, parents born MO, works in boarding
house
Donald, son, age 12, born OK, parents born MO
Rick, son, age 7, born OK, parents born MO
So, I took another, closer , look at the 1910 census....The interpreter has
him at age 53...it is very possible that it was 33..maybe top hook of first 3
did not show up so that it really does look like 53. But, 1920 census is
pretty obvious that the first number in his age is a 4...the second number was
intrepreted as a 6..but could possibly be an 8 or even a 3. The two numbers are
very close together.
Monica...I did a little census research. Was unable to find much except as
follows:
1910 census 4th district Tulsa, Tulsa County, OK, taken 26 Apr 1910, page
277B
J. C. Cloud, age 53, 2nd marriage of 8 yrs, born MO, parents born USA,
laborer
Della, age 39, 2nd marriage of 8 yrs, born MO, parents born MO, 7 children, 6
living
Elmer, son, age 18, single, born MO, parents born MO
Jessie, son, age 5, born, OK, parents born MO
Donald, son, 2, born OK, parents born MO
Doan, son, 8 months, born OK, parents born MO
Fanny Box, dau, age 18, single, born MO, parents born MO
Guy Box, son, age 16, born MO, parents born MO
Opal, dau, age 13, born MO, parents born MO
Obviously since Jessie was your great grandmother, an error was made
indicating she was a male. I was unable to find J.C. anywhere else. Although, based
on this census it would appear he was born in the 1850's vice 1870's. In the
1880 census, closest I came was a Joseph Cloud age 22 in Cass, Stone County,
MO. His father's name was also Joseph. But since you indicate the J must have
stood for Jeff or Jeffrey, I did not capture the total information.
Good Luck...
Lura
Looking for information on Robert R. Cloud, b- 31 May 1904 in Indiana, d - 15 May 1987, San Luis Obispo, CA
Wife name Violet *****
His descendants would be my closest Cloud relative.
Ken Cloud
Seeking history on ISAAC CLOUD and his wife MARY who were attacked by Indians ca. 1751. Does anyone have a copy of the Cloud Family Journal, V. XXIII, #1..."Mystery of Isaac Cloud, Colonial Virginia, pg. 85?
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Hi Laura
I am a descendant of William Morgan Cloud who came from Tennessee to Missouri.
He had a son, Orville Cloud who went to California and died there. He married America ??. One of William Morgan Cloud's sons, Robert M. Cloud, my gr-grandfather married Nancy Ann Simpson--Luttrell and had a son, Orville B. Cloud, my grandfather. He married Susan F. Stow. The Orville Cloud you are seeking is not of the William M. Cloud line.
Aubrey G. Cloud
Wilton is a son, not a grandson, of Zachariah C. Cloud. Here's the family
to the best of my knowledge:
Zachariah C. Cloud, Sr. b. 4/20/1858 in Jackson County FL. d. 4/9/1928
buried at New Hope Freewill Baptist Church Cemetery in Jackson County.
(2nd) Wife Nancy Caroline Burns b. 8/31/1860 in FL. d. 7/17/1942
buried at New Hope Freewill Baptist Church also.
Children:
James Mathew Cloud b. 8/20/1881 d. 4/10/1938 (son of Zachariah and his 1st
wife- Nancy's sister Emily Burns b. 1859 d. 8/30/1881 buried at New Hope
Freewill Baptist Church- Emily Cloude)
Nancy Matilda Cloud b. 2/25/1883 d. 12/29/1952
William M. Cloud b. 1/14/1886 d. 11/19/1976
Zachariah A. Cloud, Jr. b.6/12/1888 d. 11/24/1920
Isaac A. Cloud b. 2/20/1890 d. 2/12/1933
Minnie Lee Cloud b.2/8/1892 d. 5/7/1966
Mary Emily Cloud b.3/29/1894 d. 6/1/1974
Shady C. Cloud b. 7/9/1896 d. 5/1/1973
Lou Ethel Cloud b. 2/27/1899 d. 6/24/1968
Wilton Cary Cloud b. 7/5/1901 d. 5/16/1999
Melanie
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 11:14 AM
Subject: [CLOUD] Re: Gatsey Cloud
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> I have been comparing Jackson Co. Census for this family:
>
> Jackson Co. FL Jackson Co. FL Jackson Co. FL
> 1900 1910 1920
>
> Zachariah C – 40 Zach - 56 Zach - 56 (66?)
> Nancy – 31 Nancy – 46 Nancy – 52
> James B. – 18
> Nancy M. – 17
> William M – 13 Willie – 24
> Zach A. – 11 Zach – 21
> Isaac – 10 Isaac – 20
> Minnie – 7 Minnie – 18 Minnie – 24
> Mary E. – 5
> Shady – 2 Shady – 14 Shady – 22
> Ulla E. – 1 Lou Ethel – 11
> Wilton (son) – 9 Wilton (son) – 19
> Emlu – 15
>
> Comparing these census reports, I wonder if Wilton should be shown as Gson
> instead of Son.
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I have been comparing Jackson Co. Census for this family:
Jackson Co. FL Jackson Co. FL Jackson Co. FL
1900 1910 1920
Zachariah C – 40 Zach - 56 Zach - 56 (66?)
Nancy – 31 Nancy – 46 Nancy – 52
James B. – 18
Nancy M. – 17
William M – 13 Willie – 24
Zach A. – 11 Zach – 21
Isaac – 10 Isaac – 20
Minnie – 7 Minnie – 18 Minnie – 24
Mary E. – 5
Shady – 2 Shady – 14 Shady – 22
Ulla E. – 1 Lou Ethel – 11
Wilton (son) – 9 Wilton (son) – 19
Emlu – 15
Comparing these census reports, I wonder if Wilton should be shown as Gson instead of Son.
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My great grandfather was Orville Cloud, born in the late 1800's he died in Missouri in the 1960's, wife name was Hattie. Would like to know if this name appears on any lists. I can complete the family below and verify with a little background info.
Thank you,
Laura