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>From: nimbus9(a)chesco.com
>Subject: Cloud
>
>>From: "Barry" <burrhead(a)townsqr.com>
>>To: <nimbus9(a)chesco.com>
>>Subject: Cloud
>>Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:13:25 -0500
>>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>
I forwarded your request to the Cloud Discuss Group. You will get quick and
accurate information from someoune along the line. Good luck!
Gene Cloud
>>Would you Clouds be kin to Talitha Cloud b. abt 1729 New Castle Delaware,
>>married Isacc Cantrell abt 1750?
>>Thanks, Carolyn Hughes Stevenson
>>
>>
At 08:29 PM 4/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Tom,
>Do you know anything about a Thomas CLOUD who taught at the University
>in Fayette, Arkansas. I was told he was an English professor; don't
>know when, possibly circa 1920.
>Fran ceagle52(a)earthlink.net
no, but I will forward your query to the Cloud Family Discussion List
and see if anyone there does
Tom Cloud <cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
Regarding this list of marriages I posted .... for my fellow
"Jeremiah" researchers .... the below are ours -- if you find
others, please let me know.
>Cloud, Elizabeth married Connelly, Isaac on 01 Jan 1840 in Austin County,
>Texas
>Cloud, Mary J. married Starnes, A. G. on 28 Oct 1845 in Austin County, Texas
>Cloud, Mary married Pearson, Columbus C. on 08 Mar 1847 in Austin County,
>Texas
>Cloud, Mary J. J. married Frunis, Joseph on 23 Aug 1849 in Austin County,
>Texas
>Cloud, Mary Jane married Hargrove, William A. on 17 Oct 1850 in Hopkins
>County, Texas
.... not sure about the above Marys .... please look at Mary, dau
of James M. and Jane Francis. I show no marriage for her, but her
birthdate makes it possible these could be her marriages ?? .. and
certainly the time and location make her a suspect. And, if these
are all the same woman, she must have had very unfortunate luck
with husbands.
>Cloud, Jackson married Wood, Nancy on 02 May 1838 in Washington County, Texas
>Cloud, E. L. married Gates, Wm. P. on 24 Jul 1847 in Washington County, Texas
If I missed any, please tell me.
thanks,
Tom Cloud <cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
found on ancestry.com
Cloud, Elizabeth married Connelly, Isaac on 01 Jan 1840 in Austin County,
Texas
Cloud, Mary J. married Starnes, A. G. on 28 Oct 1845 in Austin County, Texas
Cloud, Mary married Pearson, Columbus C. on 08 Mar 1847 in Austin County,
Texas
Cloud, Mary J. J. married Frunis, Joseph on 23 Aug 1849 in Austin County,
Texas
Cloud, Andrew G. married Mccoy, Nancy E. on 03 Jul 1840 in Gonzales County,
Texas
Cloud, John W. married Johnson, Rebecca on 01 Nov 1837 in Harris County, Texas
Cloud, Mary Jane married Hargrove, William A. on 17 Oct 1850 in Hopkins
County, Texas
Cloud, Jackson married Wood, Nancy on 02 May 1838 in Washington County, Texas
Cloud, E. L. married Gates, Wm. P. on 24 Jul 1847 in Washington County, Texas
Bettis, John married Cloud, Elizabeth on 06 Jan 1824 in Clarke County, Alabama
Cloud, William married Frizzle, Margaret on 19 Dec 1825 in Montgomery
County, Alabama
Bramblett, E. M. married Cloud, Susan Caroline on 01 Aug 1850 in Cass
County, Georgia
Cloud, Carroll A. married Dempton, Mary W. on 07 Feb 1844 in Chatham
County, Georgia
Bennett, Jackson married Cloud, Elizabeth on 14 Nov 1841 in Cherokee
County, Georgia
Bennett, Elizabeth married Cloud, Jesse on 13 Sep 1842 in Cherokee County,
Georgia
Cloud, Mary M. married Dover, Allen on 16 Feb 1845 in Cherokee County, Georgia
Archer, Marinda married Cloud, George on 30 May 1850 in Cherokee County,
Georgia
Cloud, Joseph C. married Fowler, Sarah Ann on 17 Jun 1849 in Crawford
County, Georgia
Cloud, Reuben married Giddens, Lotty on 11 Oct 1830 in Decatur County, Georgia
Cloud, Zilphia married Oliver, Moses on 05 Dec 1831 in Decatur County, Georgia
Cloud, Daniel married Pate, Phebe on 12 Mar 1833 in Decatur County, Georgia
Cloud, Caroline married Whaley, David on 08 Apr 1838 in Decatur County,
Georgia
Cloud, Phillip married Mock, Sophia Eliz. on 20 Sep 1843 in Decatur County,
Georgia
Cloud, N. L. married Morgan, Sarah J. on 25 Mar 1850 in Decatur County,
Georgia
Cloud, Elizabeth married Thomas, Phillip on 14 Nov 1821 in Early County,
Georgia
Cloud, Samuel G. married Cox, Elizabeth A. on 09 Jan 1816 in Elbert County,
Georgia
Brown, Elizabeth married Cloud, Levi on 15 Feb 1827 in Henry County, Georgia
Cloud, Aaron married Faulkner, Nancy on 18 Dec 1831 in Henry County, Georgia
Cloud, Mary married Stokes, Jacob on 26 Dec 1831 in Henry County, Georgia
Cloud, Levi married Mayo, Lucinda on 17 Jan 1833 in Henry County, Georgia
Cloud, Rebecca J. married Harden, Aikenson on 13 Mar 1834 in Henry County,
Georgia
Cloud, Caroline C. married Crenshaw, James H. G. on 07 May 1840 in Henry
County, Georgia
Beck, Mary E. married Cloud, Andrew J. on 03 Feb 1847 in Henry County, Georgia
Cloud, Elizabeth married Shelly, Malachi on 15 Sep 1835 in Houston County,
Georgia
Cloud, Unity married Holt, William on 01 Feb 1838 in Houston County, Georgia
Barton, Mary Mallerson married Cloud, Noah B. on 20 Jul 1835 in Jefferson
County, Georgia
Cloud, James married King, Margaret on 30 Mar 1838 in Murray County, Georgia
Cloud, Ezekiel married Harrison, Elizabeth on 26 Jan 1804 in Oglethorpe
County, Georgia
Cloud, Nancy married Harden, William on 21 Sep 1820 in Putnam County, Georgia
Cloud, Alford married Pintson, Casey on 28 Dec 1831 in Rabun County, Georgia
Cloud, Hannah married Pile, William on 10 Oct 1809 in Warren County, Georgia
Brantley, Phillip married Cloud, Polly on 30 Apr 1814 in Warren County,
Georgia
Cloud, Nancy married Perry, John on 16 Aug 1814 in Warren County, Georgia
Cloud, Joel married Wilder, Nancy on 16 Jan 1837 in Warren County, Georgia
Tom Cloud <cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
I just subscribed to ancestry.com .... I know some of you have
told me some things about it in the past -- but I've forgotten.
It seems kinda sparse as far as research materials are concerned ??
There are probably lots of family trees available -- but I think
they're free to anyone ?? and the ROOTS collection probably has
more (and probably the same) ???
So, any comments about whether this is a valuable resource or not?
thanks,
Tom Cloud <cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
sorry, forgot to include this:
Georgia began in 1805 to offer land to its citizens through lotteries.
These lotteries often serve as useful substitutes for the lost federal
census returns for the early 1800s in the state. The 1827 lottery
dispensed lots in Carroll, Coweta, Lee, Muscogee, and Troup counties.
Search this database for thousands of Georgians who were "fortunate
drawers" in this unique land dispersal.
note that this is (c) ancestry.com
Tom Cloud <cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
did a search of Ancestry's database and found this:
REPRINT of OFFICIAL REGISTER of LAND LOTTERY OF GEORGIA 1827
47th DAY'S DRAWING-April 30.
HENRY.
page 146
Fortunate Drawers: Ezegiel Cloud, R. S.,
Captains District: Grays
Number: 253
District: 8
County: Lee County
does this belong to anyone ?
Tom Cloud <cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
Howdy, Gang!
Well, I'm not dead yet! I've been busy cutting back. [that's almost
like 'government budget'.] I haven't been watching my messages as
closely, and have actually discovered there is a sun in FL. Wow! Light
from an alien [non-computer] source! I came across the suggestion that
we all chip in and help RootsWeb. This cheerleader is all for it. Of
the short list of [Cloudy Skies o'er Texas - and other parts yet to be
discovered] that is in my address book, I count 23. Multiply that by 27
different lists [an individual in this computation may only represent
one] to which this was sent times $10.00 comes to a grand total of
$6,210.00. The beauty of it is that it doesn't hurt a bit.
Just think, if we each help a LITTLE, the total amount will be more
than the goal. $10.00 is such a LITTLE amount - at least for most of
us. Furthermore, it is a way of saying "THANK YOU" to Karen and Brian
who have made our lives so much easier by their comment to usage of the
internet for genealogical research. I wonder how many families they
have brought together. That is an unanswerable question but a small
$10.00 donation in the guise of purchasing a cookbook shouldn't cause
too much stress for us. We just might be blessed by the recipies -
especially since this is a cookbook of traditions.
That was comment #1.
#2) I'm beginning to really appreciate the disciplining I had a few
weeks ago when I sent too much in one message - much of it being
replies. I don't know about you, but I really hate reading the same
message over and over and over and over again. When you forward a
message, please note that it goes as an attachment as well as a copy of
what you just read. In other words, it get multiplied each time it gets
forwarded. PLEASE remember to edit or snip any unneccessary parts so
that we don't use up precious time and space playing tennis with the
same message over and over and over and over and ...[when did you say
Jesus is returning?]. Make certain you are forwarding only the message
and not multiple lists of names and e-mail addresses. There is an
option in the e-mail menus that allows you to forward only the message
and not the long headers. Check it out. Which brings me to item #3.
3) WHY DON'T EACH OF US ENTHUSIASTIC COLLECTORS OF EVERYBODY'S
PRIVATE LIVES FILL OUT THE QUESTIONAIRE THAT WAS SO GENEROUSLY SHARED
WITH US AND THEN UPLOAD THE INFORMATION?
Don't panic, Tom. If you are agreeable, we can work out someway where
I could collate this wonderful trivia, or maybe we could create a kind
of library for these stories. We'll talk later.
I just think it is high time that we each gave as good as we beg for
- even better. Set an example. Maybe more folks would answer if they
had some example to go by. Do I hear any reactions?
______
/|||||||\\
|||||| |
|||---|8|8|
||| || _\
|||| |
|||| (==)
|| /
____/ <--- Nosy, loudmouthed cheerleader - ME
Ruth Ann Harris
ahharris(a)worldnet.att.net
I have looking my data, dont have anything on them.
Ken Cloud
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe & Laura Schmidt <schmidtm(a)3-cities.com>
To: CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com <CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 1998 2:28 PM
Subject: [CLOUD-L] Fw: Re:Ruth Cloud
>Figured I would pass this on to the Cloud list, maybe someone can help this
>cousin. Also getting ready to look on Ken's page, maybe he will have
>something.
>Laura
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Beth Sloan <eas(a)coam.net>
>To: Joe & Laura Schmidt <schmidtm(a)3-cities.com>
>Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 11:39 AM
>Subject: Re:Ruth Cloud
>
>
>>Hi,
>>She is RUTH ClOUD. Married to JOHN THRASHER. I don't have any dates on
>>her. John Thrasher died 1788/90. She was the mother of ISAAC, MARY,
>JOSEPH
>>CLOUD, and JOHN. The ony source I have is a book on the Thrashers which
>>says that the Cloud Family, Quakers, had settled in Pennsylvania and then
>>moved to Va. Ruth Cloud was suppose to be from Pittsylvania Co. Va. A
>lady
>>sent my mother the names of Joseph Cloud,and Isaac Cloud from a Virginia
>>magazine and said one of these two men would have been Ruth's fathter, but
>>the magazine wasn't named and no other documentation was given.
>>I have put her name out on lists and had several people with Cloud
>>connections answer but no one seems to know poor old Ruth. So many of my
>>female ancestors are just "wife of and mother of" and nothing more.
>>I will cross my fingers that maybe you have Ruth listed someplace so she
>can
>>be more filled out.
>>Beth
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joe & Laura Schmidt <schmidtm(a)3-cities.com>
>>To: Beth Sloan <eas(a)coam.net>
>>Date: Monday, April 20, 1998 23:33
>>Subject: Re: [D-S] Fw: Family interview form
>>
>>
>>>My name is Laura (CLOUD) Schmidt, Tell me about your lost fluffy one
>(Cloud
>>>that is!)
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Beth Sloan <eas(a)coam.net>
>>>To: Joe & Laura Schmidt <schmidtm(a)3-CITIES.COM>
>>>Date: Monday, April 20, 1998 10:34 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [D-S] Fw: Family interview form
>>>
>>>
>>>>I had two copies of this, since I am on the NC/SC list also. As I
>deleted
>>>>the other one, out of the corner of my eye, I thought I saw something in
>>>the
>>>>CC or BCC listing about a Cloud List...am I correct and do you have
>>>>information? I have a lost "Cloud" that I would love to place.
>>>>Thanks for the form for the family interview and thanks for reading
this.
>>>>Beth Sloan
>>>>Las Vegas
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Joe & Laura Schmidt <schmidtm(a)3-CITIES.COM>
>>>>To: DEEP-SOUTH-ROOTS-L(a)LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
>>>><DEEP-SOUTH-ROOTS-L(a)LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>
>>>>Date: Monday, April 20, 1998 07:57
>>>>Subject: [D-S] Fw: Family interview form
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I found this on the internet, and thought I might pass it along to all
>>of
>>>>>you,
>>>>>>so that you can make whatever use of it that might make sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Happy spring,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dick Shoemaker
>>>>>>********************
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guide for Interviewing Family Members
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The purpose of this questionaire is to guide you in
>>>>>>recording the life experiences of a member of your family.
>>>>>>The information you record will become an important link
>>>>>>between you and your descendants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At the top of a sheet of paper write: the full name, and the
>>>>>>date and place of birth of yourself, your mother (maiden
>>>>>>name), your father, your brothers and sisters, your spouse,
>>>>>>and your children: and the date and place of marriage for
>>>>>>yourself, your brothers and sisters (with spouse's names),
>>>>>>and your children (with spouse's names).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Write your thoughts on sheets of good quality paper,
>>>>>>numbering each answer to correspond to the appropriate
>>>>>>question. Write your name on each sheet, too, and leave
>>>>>>room to add new thoughts later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Grandparents
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. What were the names of your mother's parents?
>>>>>> 2. When and where were they born and where did they
>>>>>> live?
>>>>>> 3. What did they do for a living?
>>>>>> 4. Do you have personal memories of them?
>>>>>> 5. What were the names of your father's parents?
>>>>>> 6. When and where were they born and where did they
>>>>>> live?
>>>>>> 7. What did they do for a living?
>>>>>> 8. Do you have personal memories of them?
>>>>>> 9. Did you know your grandparents well?
>>>>>> 10. What do you remember hearing about your GREAT-
>>>>>> Grandparents?
>>>>>> 11. Did you ever meet them?
>>>>>> 12. Did your great-grandparents, grandparents, or parents
>>>>>> come to the US from a foreign country? Any stories
>>>>>> told in your family about the crossing? Do you have
>>>>>> any relatives in foreign countries?
>>>>>> 13. What traditions are still practiced in your family?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Childhood
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The family house
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14. What type of house did you live in as a child?
>>>>>> 15. Other buildings on the same property?
>>>>>> 16. If you moved during your childhood, tell where and
>>>>>> when and what you can remember of each house and the
>>>>>> family circumstances and the reason for the move.
>>>>>> 17. In what room did you eat? Kitch? Dining room?
>>>>>> 18. How was your home heated?
>>>>>> 19. Did you have a fireplace?
>>>>>> 20. What kind of kitchen stove did your parents cook on?
>>>>>> 21. What fuel was used?
>>>>>> 22. Did you have to buy the fuel or was this a chore,
>>>>>> such as cutting wood, with which you had to help?
>>>>>> 23. Did you always have electricity? If not, when did
>>>>>> you get it?
>>>>>> 24. Did you ever use candles or kerosene lamps?
>>>>>> 25. Did your family have a cellar? Where did you store
>>>>>> food?
>>>>>> 26. Where did your family get water? Was it plentiful?
>>>>>> What methods were used to conserve water?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Family relations, responsibilities, conditions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 27. What was your position in the family? Oldest?
>>>>>> Youngest?
>>>>>> 28. What were your duties as a small child?
>>>>>> 29. Who cooked the meals? Who did the ironing?
>>>>>> 30. Did you buy or make your own clothing?
>>>>>> 31. When did you learn to cook and who taught you?
>>>>>> 32. Did you ever learn to sew? Crochet? Knit?
>>>>>> Embroider? And who taught you?
>>>>>> 33. Did you ever learn the mechanics of a car and who
>>>>>> taught you?
>>>>>> 34. Did your family keep in touch with distant family?
>>>>>> 35. Did you visit relatives often?
>>>>>> 36. How did you get your mail?
>>>>>> 37. What do you remember about family pets?
>>>>>> 38. Were you especially close to anyone in the family?
>>>>>> 39. How did the family spend its evenings?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Family income and livelihood
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 40. What did your father do for a living?
>>>>>> 41. Did your mother ever work outside of the home?
>>>>>> 42. Did you contribute to the family income?
>>>>>> 43. When did you get your first job outside of the
>>>>>> family?
>>>>>> 44. Did your family have a garden?
>>>>>> 45. Who did the work on the garden?
>>>>>> 46. What kinds of vegetables did you grow?
>>>>>> 47. Did your family have fruit trees?
>>>>>> 48. Who did the canning?
>>>>>> 49. Did you raise chickens?
>>>>>> 50. What kind of meat did you eat?
>>>>>> 51. Did you keep a cow for milk?
>>>>>> 52. Did you make your own butter and cheese?
>>>>>> 53. Did anyone in the family sell eggs or butter?
>>>>>> 54. If you lived on a farm, what crops were planted?
>>>>>> 55. Who did the work? Family? Hired hands?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Days, seasons, and special occasions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 56. What did Saturday mean to you?
>>>>>> 57. What did Sunday mean to you?
>>>>>> 58. Did you attend church on Sunday?
>>>>>> 59. Where did you attend church?
>>>>>> 60. How did you spend Christmas?
>>>>>> 61. What kinds of gifts did you receive at Christmas?
>>>>>> 62. Did your family observe Easter?
>>>>>> 63. How and where did you observe the Fourth of July?
>>>>>> 64. How was your birthday celebrated?
>>>>>> 65. What kinds of gifts did you receive on your birthday?
>>>>>> 66. Did your family entertain often? When?
>>>>>> 67. Did your family attend picnics? Family reunions?
>>>>>> What do you remember about them?
>>>>>> 68. How did you keep cool in the summer?
>>>>>> 69. What did you wear in the winter to keep warm?
>>>>>> 70. Do you remember any blizzards or tornadoes or floods?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Friends and Games
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 71. What did you do for recreation?
>>>>>> 72. Did you or your brothers or sisters have any hobbies?
>>>>>> 73. Who was your best friend?
>>>>>> 74. What did you and your friends do when you got
>>>>>> together?
>>>>>> 75. Did you and your playmates play any organized games?
>>>>>> 76. Did you ever learn to swim?
>>>>>> 77. Did you participate in youth organizations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>School
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 78. Where did you go to school?
>>>>>> 79. Did you ever attend a one-room schoolhouse?
>>>>>> 80. How did you get to school? If you walked, how far?
>>>>>> 81. What do you remember about these walks? Did you walk
>>>>>> alone or with friends?
>>>>>> 82. Were these walks a hardship in winter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Transportation and surroundings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 83. Describe the size of the town where you lived or
>>>>>> shopped.
>>>>>> 84. Where did your parents shop?
>>>>>> 85. How large or small were the stores?
>>>>>> 86. If you lived in a small town or on the farm, did you
>>>>>> ever go into the city to shop?
>>>>>> 87. What was the largest town you remember visiting when
>>>>>> you were young?
>>>>>> 88. Did you ever travel on a train while you were young?
>>>>>> 89. Did you or your family own a horse and buggy?
>>>>>> 90. When did your family acquire its first car? What
>>>>>> make? How much did it cost?
>>>>>> 91. When did you learn to drive a car?
>>>>>> 92. Where did your family go on vacation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Outlook
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 93. Whom did you admire most when you were young?
>>>>>> 94. When you were small, what did you hope to do when you
>>>>>> grew up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Higher Education and Career
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 95. What education did you get past high school? Did you
>>>>>> study in your adult years?
>>>>>> 96. Did your family support, oppose, or encourage you?
>>>>>> 97. Who influenced you most and helped you to develop
>>>>>> your skills?
>>>>>> 98. Would you choose the same career if you had it to do
>>>>>> over?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Marriage and Later Life
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 99. When and where did you meet your husband or wife?
>>>>>> 100. How and when did you get engaged?
>>>>>> 101. When and where did you marry?
>>>>>> 102. Did you go on a honeymoon?
>>>>>> 103. Where was your first home?
>>>>>> 104. What is your spouse's occupation?
>>>>>> 105. Where and when were your children born?
>>>>>> 106. Did you or your spouse go into military service?
>>>>>> 107. If your husband went into service, what did you do
>>>>>> while he was away?
>>>>>> 108. What memories do you have of war years?
>>>>>> 109. To what organizations have you belonged?
>>>>>> 110. Have you been politically active during your
>>>>>> lifetime?
>>>>>> 111. Which presidents have you voted for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Philosophy and Outlook
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 112. Do you have a philosopy of life to share with your
>>>>>> descendants?
>>>>>> 113. Do you have a favorite philosopher, teacher, or
>>>>>> writer who best expresses your philosophy?
>>>>>> 114. Do you have religious leanings or strong religious
>>>>>> beliefs?
>>>>>> 115. In your opinion, which have been the greatest
>>>>>> advances or inventions of all?
>>>>>> 116. What things have given you the most pleasure or
>>>>>> satisfaction?
>>>>>> 117. Is there anything that has caused you perpetual
>>>>>> concern? What events or trends have disturbed you
>>>>>> most in your lifetime?
>>>>>> 118. What has been your experience in regard to the
>>>>>> following?
>>>>>> a. Answers to prayers?
>>>>>> b. Necessity and power of love?
>>>>>> c. Will power as opposed to being ruled by one's
>>>>>> feelings?
>>>>>> 119. What do you consider to be your most important
>>>>>> achievements?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Abstracted from Virginia Allee's "A Family History
>>>>>>Questionaire" in October 1978 FAMILY HERITAGE MAGAZINE.
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----------------------------------------------
>>>>>To contact the list owner, use stephenL(a)indiana.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>For information on available lists, other list options, and other
>>>>>generally useful information, visit
>>>>>http://php.indiana.edu/~stephenl/genealog.htm
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Figured I would pass this on to the Cloud list, maybe someone can help this
cousin. Also getting ready to look on Ken's page, maybe he will have
something.
Laura
-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Sloan <eas(a)coam.net>
To: Joe & Laura Schmidt <schmidtm(a)3-cities.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 11:39 AM
Subject: Re:Ruth Cloud
>Hi,
>She is RUTH ClOUD. Married to JOHN THRASHER. I don't have any dates on
>her. John Thrasher died 1788/90. She was the mother of ISAAC, MARY,
JOSEPH
>CLOUD, and JOHN. The ony source I have is a book on the Thrashers which
>says that the Cloud Family, Quakers, had settled in Pennsylvania and then
>moved to Va. Ruth Cloud was suppose to be from Pittsylvania Co. Va. A
lady
>sent my mother the names of Joseph Cloud,and Isaac Cloud from a Virginia
>magazine and said one of these two men would have been Ruth's fathter, but
>the magazine wasn't named and no other documentation was given.
>I have put her name out on lists and had several people with Cloud
>connections answer but no one seems to know poor old Ruth. So many of my
>female ancestors are just "wife of and mother of" and nothing more.
>I will cross my fingers that maybe you have Ruth listed someplace so she
can
>be more filled out.
>Beth
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe & Laura Schmidt <schmidtm(a)3-cities.com>
>To: Beth Sloan <eas(a)coam.net>
>Date: Monday, April 20, 1998 23:33
>Subject: Re: [D-S] Fw: Family interview form
>
>
>>My name is Laura (CLOUD) Schmidt, Tell me about your lost fluffy one
(Cloud
>>that is!)
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Beth Sloan <eas(a)coam.net>
>>To: Joe & Laura Schmidt <schmidtm(a)3-CITIES.COM>
>>Date: Monday, April 20, 1998 10:34 PM
>>Subject: Re: [D-S] Fw: Family interview form
>>
>>
>>>I had two copies of this, since I am on the NC/SC list also. As I
deleted
>>>the other one, out of the corner of my eye, I thought I saw something in
>>the
>>>CC or BCC listing about a Cloud List...am I correct and do you have
>>>information? I have a lost "Cloud" that I would love to place.
>>>Thanks for the form for the family interview and thanks for reading this.
>>>Beth Sloan
>>>Las Vegas
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Joe & Laura Schmidt <schmidtm(a)3-CITIES.COM>
>>>To: DEEP-SOUTH-ROOTS-L(a)LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
>>><DEEP-SOUTH-ROOTS-L(a)LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>
>>>Date: Monday, April 20, 1998 07:57
>>>Subject: [D-S] Fw: Family interview form
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>I found this on the internet, and thought I might pass it along to all
>of
>>>>you,
>>>>>so that you can make whatever use of it that might make sense.
>>>>>
>>>>>Happy spring,
>>>>>
>>>>>Dick Shoemaker
>>>>>********************
>>>>>
>>>>> Guide for Interviewing Family Members
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The purpose of this questionaire is to guide you in
>>>>>recording the life experiences of a member of your family.
>>>>>The information you record will become an important link
>>>>>between you and your descendants.
>>>>>
>>>>>At the top of a sheet of paper write: the full name, and the
>>>>>date and place of birth of yourself, your mother (maiden
>>>>>name), your father, your brothers and sisters, your spouse,
>>>>>and your children: and the date and place of marriage for
>>>>>yourself, your brothers and sisters (with spouse's names),
>>>>>and your children (with spouse's names).
>>>>>
>>>>>Write your thoughts on sheets of good quality paper,
>>>>>numbering each answer to correspond to the appropriate
>>>>>question. Write your name on each sheet, too, and leave
>>>>>room to add new thoughts later.
>>>>>
>>>>>Grandparents
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. What were the names of your mother's parents?
>>>>> 2. When and where were they born and where did they
>>>>> live?
>>>>> 3. What did they do for a living?
>>>>> 4. Do you have personal memories of them?
>>>>> 5. What were the names of your father's parents?
>>>>> 6. When and where were they born and where did they
>>>>> live?
>>>>> 7. What did they do for a living?
>>>>> 8. Do you have personal memories of them?
>>>>> 9. Did you know your grandparents well?
>>>>> 10. What do you remember hearing about your GREAT-
>>>>> Grandparents?
>>>>> 11. Did you ever meet them?
>>>>> 12. Did your great-grandparents, grandparents, or parents
>>>>> come to the US from a foreign country? Any stories
>>>>> told in your family about the crossing? Do you have
>>>>> any relatives in foreign countries?
>>>>> 13. What traditions are still practiced in your family?
>>>>>
>>>>>Childhood
>>>>>
>>>>>The family house
>>>>>
>>>>> 14. What type of house did you live in as a child?
>>>>> 15. Other buildings on the same property?
>>>>> 16. If you moved during your childhood, tell where and
>>>>> when and what you can remember of each house and the
>>>>> family circumstances and the reason for the move.
>>>>> 17. In what room did you eat? Kitch? Dining room?
>>>>> 18. How was your home heated?
>>>>> 19. Did you have a fireplace?
>>>>> 20. What kind of kitchen stove did your parents cook on?
>>>>> 21. What fuel was used?
>>>>> 22. Did you have to buy the fuel or was this a chore,
>>>>> such as cutting wood, with which you had to help?
>>>>> 23. Did you always have electricity? If not, when did
>>>>> you get it?
>>>>> 24. Did you ever use candles or kerosene lamps?
>>>>> 25. Did your family have a cellar? Where did you store
>>>>> food?
>>>>> 26. Where did your family get water? Was it plentiful?
>>>>> What methods were used to conserve water?
>>>>>
>>>>>Family relations, responsibilities, conditions
>>>>>
>>>>> 27. What was your position in the family? Oldest?
>>>>> Youngest?
>>>>> 28. What were your duties as a small child?
>>>>> 29. Who cooked the meals? Who did the ironing?
>>>>> 30. Did you buy or make your own clothing?
>>>>> 31. When did you learn to cook and who taught you?
>>>>> 32. Did you ever learn to sew? Crochet? Knit?
>>>>> Embroider? And who taught you?
>>>>> 33. Did you ever learn the mechanics of a car and who
>>>>> taught you?
>>>>> 34. Did your family keep in touch with distant family?
>>>>> 35. Did you visit relatives often?
>>>>> 36. How did you get your mail?
>>>>> 37. What do you remember about family pets?
>>>>> 38. Were you especially close to anyone in the family?
>>>>> 39. How did the family spend its evenings?
>>>>>
>>>>>Family income and livelihood
>>>>>
>>>>> 40. What did your father do for a living?
>>>>> 41. Did your mother ever work outside of the home?
>>>>> 42. Did you contribute to the family income?
>>>>> 43. When did you get your first job outside of the
>>>>> family?
>>>>> 44. Did your family have a garden?
>>>>> 45. Who did the work on the garden?
>>>>> 46. What kinds of vegetables did you grow?
>>>>> 47. Did your family have fruit trees?
>>>>> 48. Who did the canning?
>>>>> 49. Did you raise chickens?
>>>>> 50. What kind of meat did you eat?
>>>>> 51. Did you keep a cow for milk?
>>>>> 52. Did you make your own butter and cheese?
>>>>> 53. Did anyone in the family sell eggs or butter?
>>>>> 54. If you lived on a farm, what crops were planted?
>>>>> 55. Who did the work? Family? Hired hands?
>>>>>
>>>>>Days, seasons, and special occasions
>>>>>
>>>>> 56. What did Saturday mean to you?
>>>>> 57. What did Sunday mean to you?
>>>>> 58. Did you attend church on Sunday?
>>>>> 59. Where did you attend church?
>>>>> 60. How did you spend Christmas?
>>>>> 61. What kinds of gifts did you receive at Christmas?
>>>>> 62. Did your family observe Easter?
>>>>> 63. How and where did you observe the Fourth of July?
>>>>> 64. How was your birthday celebrated?
>>>>> 65. What kinds of gifts did you receive on your birthday?
>>>>> 66. Did your family entertain often? When?
>>>>> 67. Did your family attend picnics? Family reunions?
>>>>> What do you remember about them?
>>>>> 68. How did you keep cool in the summer?
>>>>> 69. What did you wear in the winter to keep warm?
>>>>> 70. Do you remember any blizzards or tornadoes or floods?
>>>>>
>>>>>Friends and Games
>>>>>
>>>>> 71. What did you do for recreation?
>>>>> 72. Did you or your brothers or sisters have any hobbies?
>>>>> 73. Who was your best friend?
>>>>> 74. What did you and your friends do when you got
>>>>> together?
>>>>> 75. Did you and your playmates play any organized games?
>>>>> 76. Did you ever learn to swim?
>>>>> 77. Did you participate in youth organizations?
>>>>>
>>>>>School
>>>>>
>>>>> 78. Where did you go to school?
>>>>> 79. Did you ever attend a one-room schoolhouse?
>>>>> 80. How did you get to school? If you walked, how far?
>>>>> 81. What do you remember about these walks? Did you walk
>>>>> alone or with friends?
>>>>> 82. Were these walks a hardship in winter?
>>>>>
>>>>>Transportation and surroundings
>>>>>
>>>>> 83. Describe the size of the town where you lived or
>>>>> shopped.
>>>>> 84. Where did your parents shop?
>>>>> 85. How large or small were the stores?
>>>>> 86. If you lived in a small town or on the farm, did you
>>>>> ever go into the city to shop?
>>>>> 87. What was the largest town you remember visiting when
>>>>> you were young?
>>>>> 88. Did you ever travel on a train while you were young?
>>>>> 89. Did you or your family own a horse and buggy?
>>>>> 90. When did your family acquire its first car? What
>>>>> make? How much did it cost?
>>>>> 91. When did you learn to drive a car?
>>>>> 92. Where did your family go on vacation?
>>>>>
>>>>>Outlook
>>>>>
>>>>> 93. Whom did you admire most when you were young?
>>>>> 94. When you were small, what did you hope to do when you
>>>>> grew up?
>>>>>
>>>>>Higher Education and Career
>>>>>
>>>>> 95. What education did you get past high school? Did you
>>>>> study in your adult years?
>>>>> 96. Did your family support, oppose, or encourage you?
>>>>> 97. Who influenced you most and helped you to develop
>>>>> your skills?
>>>>> 98. Would you choose the same career if you had it to do
>>>>> over?
>>>>>
>>>>>Marriage and Later Life
>>>>>
>>>>> 99. When and where did you meet your husband or wife?
>>>>> 100. How and when did you get engaged?
>>>>> 101. When and where did you marry?
>>>>> 102. Did you go on a honeymoon?
>>>>> 103. Where was your first home?
>>>>> 104. What is your spouse's occupation?
>>>>> 105. Where and when were your children born?
>>>>> 106. Did you or your spouse go into military service?
>>>>> 107. If your husband went into service, what did you do
>>>>> while he was away?
>>>>> 108. What memories do you have of war years?
>>>>> 109. To what organizations have you belonged?
>>>>> 110. Have you been politically active during your
>>>>> lifetime?
>>>>> 111. Which presidents have you voted for?
>>>>>
>>>>>Philosophy and Outlook
>>>>>
>>>>> 112. Do you have a philosopy of life to share with your
>>>>> descendants?
>>>>> 113. Do you have a favorite philosopher, teacher, or
>>>>> writer who best expresses your philosophy?
>>>>> 114. Do you have religious leanings or strong religious
>>>>> beliefs?
>>>>> 115. In your opinion, which have been the greatest
>>>>> advances or inventions of all?
>>>>> 116. What things have given you the most pleasure or
>>>>> satisfaction?
>>>>> 117. Is there anything that has caused you perpetual
>>>>> concern? What events or trends have disturbed you
>>>>> most in your lifetime?
>>>>> 118. What has been your experience in regard to the
>>>>> following?
>>>>> a. Answers to prayers?
>>>>> b. Necessity and power of love?
>>>>> c. Will power as opposed to being ruled by one's
>>>>> feelings?
>>>>> 119. What do you consider to be your most important
>>>>> achievements?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Abstracted from Virginia Allee's "A Family History
>>>>>Questionaire" in October 1978 FAMILY HERITAGE MAGAZINE.
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>For information on available lists, other list options, and other
>>>>generally useful information, visit
>>>>http://php.indiana.edu/~stephenl/genealog.htm
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
I got this from the Moore-L mailing list, and I think it is such a neat
important project, I am passing it on. So you all know, Rootsweb is funded
mainly by two individuals, Karen and Brian, and since I am not independantly
wealthy, think this is a great way to help them keep us up and running.
This is not spam, just a way to let us all help them out.
Laura
schmidtm(a)3-cities.com
>
> >I'm forwarding this message on to all my lists. It is not spam, but
> a
> >fundraiser that will help benefit Rootsweb and keep these lists free.
> This
> >is legit and their first attempt at this raised $4000 for Rootsweb.
> If you
> >have comments about this matter, please direct them to me personally
> at
> >sueskay(a)pacbell.net.
> >
> >Sue
> >
> >*************************************************
> >Due to overwhelming popularity of the cookbook project undertaken
> recently
> by
> >the Homespun mailing list -- and in response to scores of requests --
> Homespun
> >and the Country-Kitchen are pleased and excited to announce we are
> now
> >compiling
> >a second volume. It will have all new recipes and differs from the
> first
> in
> >that holiday traditions will be included, which may be short essays
> up to
> 150
> >words and applies to any holiday celebrated around the world. Each
> item
> will
> >include the submitter's name, city and state of residence.
> >
> >As with our first project, all proceeds will be used to support
> Rootsweb.
> Our
> >first edition netted over $4,000 for them. Our goal for the second
> volume
> >is to
> >reach at least $5,000. With your support, we can achieve this!
> >
> >Recipes and holiday traditions for the book are being solicited
> through
> >June 19,
> >1998, on our website at:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/7186/form.html
> >
> >Orders may be placed when a recipe is submitted from there, or
> directly at:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/7186/order.html
> >
> >If you do not have Internet access, you may email recipe and
> tradition
> >submittals to:
> >
> > hcookbook(a)webtv.net
> >
> >Again, if you do not have Internet access orders only may be emailed
> to the
> >following address:
> >
> > saundrak(a)m7.sprynet.com
> >
> >When emailing your submittal or order, please be sure to specify
> VOLUME 2
> >RECIPE
> >or VOLUMEN 2 ORDER in the subject line.
> >
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> Canada
> and
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> are
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> later
> than
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> process
> credit
> >card orders. Payment not received by July 10 will result in an order
> being
> >cancelled as the publisher requires their money when the order is
> placed
> (and
> >the bank will hold out-of-state checks up to two weeks to clear).
> Checks
> >drawn
> >on US accounts or international money orders must be used.
> Remittance
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> >
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> >We anticipate delivery of the cookbook about the end of November.
> They'll
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> >Should you have any questions on this project, please contact me.
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> >
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>Hi,
>
>I found this on the internet, and thought I might pass it along to all of
you,
>so that you can make whatever use of it that might make sense.
>
>Happy spring,
>
>Dick Shoemaker
>********************
>
> Guide for Interviewing Family Members
>
>
>The purpose of this questionaire is to guide you in
>recording the life experiences of a member of your family.
>The information you record will become an important link
>between you and your descendants.
>
>At the top of a sheet of paper write: the full name, and the
>date and place of birth of yourself, your mother (maiden
>name), your father, your brothers and sisters, your spouse,
>and your children: and the date and place of marriage for
>yourself, your brothers and sisters (with spouse's names),
>and your children (with spouse's names).
>
>Write your thoughts on sheets of good quality paper,
>numbering each answer to correspond to the appropriate
>question. Write your name on each sheet, too, and leave
>room to add new thoughts later.
>
>Grandparents
>
> 1. What were the names of your mother's parents?
> 2. When and where were they born and where did they
> live?
> 3. What did they do for a living?
> 4. Do you have personal memories of them?
> 5. What were the names of your father's parents?
> 6. When and where were they born and where did they
> live?
> 7. What did they do for a living?
> 8. Do you have personal memories of them?
> 9. Did you know your grandparents well?
> 10. What do you remember hearing about your GREAT-
> Grandparents?
> 11. Did you ever meet them?
> 12. Did your great-grandparents, grandparents, or parents
> come to the US from a foreign country? Any stories
> told in your family about the crossing? Do you have
> any relatives in foreign countries?
> 13. What traditions are still practiced in your family?
>
>Childhood
>
>The family house
>
> 14. What type of house did you live in as a child?
> 15. Other buildings on the same property?
> 16. If you moved during your childhood, tell where and
> when and what you can remember of each house and the
> family circumstances and the reason for the move.
> 17. In what room did you eat? Kitch? Dining room?
> 18. How was your home heated?
> 19. Did you have a fireplace?
> 20. What kind of kitchen stove did your parents cook on?
> 21. What fuel was used?
> 22. Did you have to buy the fuel or was this a chore,
> such as cutting wood, with which you had to help?
> 23. Did you always have electricity? If not, when did
> you get it?
> 24. Did you ever use candles or kerosene lamps?
> 25. Did your family have a cellar? Where did you store
> food?
> 26. Where did your family get water? Was it plentiful?
> What methods were used to conserve water?
>
>Family relations, responsibilities, conditions
>
> 27. What was your position in the family? Oldest?
> Youngest?
> 28. What were your duties as a small child?
> 29. Who cooked the meals? Who did the ironing?
> 30. Did you buy or make your own clothing?
> 31. When did you learn to cook and who taught you?
> 32. Did you ever learn to sew? Crochet? Knit?
> Embroider? And who taught you?
> 33. Did you ever learn the mechanics of a car and who
> taught you?
> 34. Did your family keep in touch with distant family?
> 35. Did you visit relatives often?
> 36. How did you get your mail?
> 37. What do you remember about family pets?
> 38. Were you especially close to anyone in the family?
> 39. How did the family spend its evenings?
>
>Family income and livelihood
>
> 40. What did your father do for a living?
> 41. Did your mother ever work outside of the home?
> 42. Did you contribute to the family income?
> 43. When did you get your first job outside of the
> family?
> 44. Did your family have a garden?
> 45. Who did the work on the garden?
> 46. What kinds of vegetables did you grow?
> 47. Did your family have fruit trees?
> 48. Who did the canning?
> 49. Did you raise chickens?
> 50. What kind of meat did you eat?
> 51. Did you keep a cow for milk?
> 52. Did you make your own butter and cheese?
> 53. Did anyone in the family sell eggs or butter?
> 54. If you lived on a farm, what crops were planted?
> 55. Who did the work? Family? Hired hands?
>
>Days, seasons, and special occasions
>
> 56. What did Saturday mean to you?
> 57. What did Sunday mean to you?
> 58. Did you attend church on Sunday?
> 59. Where did you attend church?
> 60. How did you spend Christmas?
> 61. What kinds of gifts did you receive at Christmas?
> 62. Did your family observe Easter?
> 63. How and where did you observe the Fourth of July?
> 64. How was your birthday celebrated?
> 65. What kinds of gifts did you receive on your birthday?
> 66. Did your family entertain often? When?
> 67. Did your family attend picnics? Family reunions?
> What do you remember about them?
> 68. How did you keep cool in the summer?
> 69. What did you wear in the winter to keep warm?
> 70. Do you remember any blizzards or tornadoes or floods?
>
>Friends and Games
>
> 71. What did you do for recreation?
> 72. Did you or your brothers or sisters have any hobbies?
> 73. Who was your best friend?
> 74. What did you and your friends do when you got
> together?
> 75. Did you and your playmates play any organized games?
> 76. Did you ever learn to swim?
> 77. Did you participate in youth organizations?
>
>School
>
> 78. Where did you go to school?
> 79. Did you ever attend a one-room schoolhouse?
> 80. How did you get to school? If you walked, how far?
> 81. What do you remember about these walks? Did you walk
> alone or with friends?
> 82. Were these walks a hardship in winter?
>
>Transportation and surroundings
>
> 83. Describe the size of the town where you lived or
> shopped.
> 84. Where did your parents shop?
> 85. How large or small were the stores?
> 86. If you lived in a small town or on the farm, did you
> ever go into the city to shop?
> 87. What was the largest town you remember visiting when
> you were young?
> 88. Did you ever travel on a train while you were young?
> 89. Did you or your family own a horse and buggy?
> 90. When did your family acquire its first car? What
> make? How much did it cost?
> 91. When did you learn to drive a car?
> 92. Where did your family go on vacation?
>
>Outlook
>
> 93. Whom did you admire most when you were young?
> 94. When you were small, what did you hope to do when you
> grew up?
>
>Higher Education and Career
>
> 95. What education did you get past high school? Did you
> study in your adult years?
> 96. Did your family support, oppose, or encourage you?
> 97. Who influenced you most and helped you to develop
> your skills?
> 98. Would you choose the same career if you had it to do
> over?
>
>Marriage and Later Life
>
> 99. When and where did you meet your husband or wife?
> 100. How and when did you get engaged?
> 101. When and where did you marry?
> 102. Did you go on a honeymoon?
> 103. Where was your first home?
> 104. What is your spouse's occupation?
> 105. Where and when were your children born?
> 106. Did you or your spouse go into military service?
> 107. If your husband went into service, what did you do
> while he was away?
> 108. What memories do you have of war years?
> 109. To what organizations have you belonged?
> 110. Have you been politically active during your
> lifetime?
> 111. Which presidents have you voted for?
>
>Philosophy and Outlook
>
> 112. Do you have a philosopy of life to share with your
> descendants?
> 113. Do you have a favorite philosopher, teacher, or
> writer who best expresses your philosophy?
> 114. Do you have religious leanings or strong religious
> beliefs?
> 115. In your opinion, which have been the greatest
> advances or inventions of all?
> 116. What things have given you the most pleasure or
> satisfaction?
> 117. Is there anything that has caused you perpetual
> concern? What events or trends have disturbed you
> most in your lifetime?
> 118. What has been your experience in regard to the
> following?
> a. Answers to prayers?
> b. Necessity and power of love?
> c. Will power as opposed to being ruled by one's
> feelings?
> 119. What do you consider to be your most important
> achievements?
>
>
>Abstracted from Virginia Allee's "A Family History
>Questionaire" in October 1978 FAMILY HERITAGE MAGAZINE.
>.
>
INFORMATION POSSIBLY RELEVENT TO
Louisa Cloud Daughter of Henry George Washington and Mary
Bateman, Born 1847/48 married to J. B. Manning 1868
Census: 1870 Austin TX, Hempstead area p.299
John Manning 39, born AL
Louisa 22, born TX
Mollie 1, born TX
There were also several step children listed:
Virginia 17, AL
Sallie 13, AL
Emma 11, AL
Willie (male) 8, TX
Nannie (sp) 4, TX (name not clear)
This would definitely appear to be the correct person.
This family was on page 299 of census. HGW (her father) was on page
300. Based on their marriage date, Mollie could be the only child
between them at this time (unless, of course, Nannie was born out of
wedlock).
Lura
INFORMATION POSSIBLY RELEVENT TO
OPHELIA CLOYD:
Census: 1860 Austin TX, Hempstead area P.167
N. Cloyd 39, farmer, born AL
Rebecca 28, wife, TX
Ophelia 16, AL
Mary 14, AL
Joshua 8, TX
Murnertia 5, TX (female) name was not clear and
didn't look like a recognizable one
Remarks: This family, during the census, were in dwelling #12.
HGW Cloud and family (which included Noah) were in dwelling #1.
Would suspect that these two families moved to Texas together, from
Alabama. Noah probably knew Ophelia while in Alabama. Family ages
are similar and where they were born matches. (i.e., HGW family in
1860 census: Noah, 16, AL; James, 14, AL; Louisa, 12, TX; Sarah
Texanna, 8, TX)
As you probably notice, his wife, Rebecca, was born in TX.
Per ages of children, would suspect that his first wife died
(probably sometime between the birth of Mary and Joshua).
Found another interesting census record in 1850 Austin TX , Page 138.
I was looking for the WOOD name, so I ran across this accidently.
All these people seemed to be living on a farm and with the WILSON
family. I didn't jot down all the info and all the people living
here, but this is part of it:
William Wood 50, born SC
Nancy Wood 34, born Mississippi
Ophelia Cloyd 7, born AL
Mary Cloyd 5, born AL
I have information on the Wood family that has been provided by a
descendant, but I didn't bring it with me to work. So, am not sure
how or if, these WOODs, fit in with our Nancy Wood born about
1824/25. Would suspect they do though.
But, this would appear to be the same Ophelia and Mary. Ages are
9 years apart, but that could have to do with the dates of the census
for those two decades. Census in 1850 was taken 3 Oct, and the one
in 1860 was 14 Jun. So, I would also suspect that Ophelia and Mary
were born between Jun and Oct which would make them about to turn 17
and 15 in 1860. The fact that the girls were living with another
family probably means that N. Cloyd's first wife died about this time
(1850) and he was unable to care for the 2 girls. Then he met his
second wife and got the girls back.
I have just started analyzing the data from my trip to my local
library. Not sure if I have any other gems.
Lura
I have a spelling checker,
It came with my PC.
It plainly marks four my revue
Mistakes I cannot sea.
I've run this pome threw it, I'm sure your please to no.
It's letter perfect in it's weigh,
My checker tolled me sew.
Tom Cloud <cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
Tonight's topic at Afternet's #GenealogyForum is Rowan and surrounding
counties in North Carolina. It is at 8:00 eastern time, though I know for
us late comers they will stick around. They have a different topic three
nights a week. Remember bring your family names you are researching! They
post them all the time and they really have been having luck making
connections. If you want to see upcoming events, go to:
http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/events.htm ! I am not affiliated with
this IRC channel, I just know where I get the most help and the most patient
op's. If you are not on IRC, and want to learn more, go to:
http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/Access1.htm
And to learn how to use you mIRC, when you are a newbie, or like me and have
brainfog occasionally go to: http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/mIRCing.htm
I would like to thank tex^mom, Robinator, Gerald^, Howdy, ChatRbug,
Cheyanne, Arch, Runt, Vorky, Hurk, JustMe2 and all the other channel
operators for the help they have given me. When I am there I am "Cloudy".
Come say hi!.
Laura
schmidtm(a)3-cities.com
Jan & Gary Dunham (by way of Tom Cloud ) wrote:
snip
> Interviews with older generations are always a problem, no matter how hard
> you try to prepare. The standard answer I always got was "Why do you want
> to know?" "What do you care?" ... You have to remember that some of these
> older ones suffered day in & day out "without the basics" ... by that I
> mean ... sometimes without enough food, clothing, etc. And NO ONE CARED.
> So - it stayed with them, No One Cares!
>
This is why it is so important to prepare them for the phone call - if
at all possible. By snail mailing the answers to those questions you
mention, if gives them a chance to get over the gut-reaction of
distrust, think about the importance of passing information to the next
generation, and maybe even get out the dusty records before you call.
They even have an address to reply to if they don't want you to call.
Your Victim-To-Be has more control over the situation. Besides,
somebody had to care or they wouldn't be here.
snip
> When you show interest, it frightens them, makes them think you may be
> going to try to "use it for something that might hurt them."
> If you can get them to start with telling you something that might have
> been FUNNY - mildly amusing - or have caused some type of laughter in their
> lives - it gets them started. Then - you might not get them to shut up
> .... but this is all "conversational" ... writing things down on paper is a
> No-No. They will not do it! No matter how easy you think you are making
> it for them.
Being interested in THEIR past may be the first chance they have ever
had to unload. So be gentle. Care about the V-T-B. Genuinely care.
They will pick up on whether you are real or not. And take a
voice-activated microcassette. Make certain they understand that you
are recording the conversation in the interest of acuracy. Also be
certain that YOU understand the responsibility of having that tape - and
that the V-T-B understands that you understand.
snip
> Writing things on paper makes them THINK ... and that means thinking about
> all of the hardships they endured. They just don't want to "re-live" those
> days.
Writing may make some of them confess to NOT having an education that
they have conned the world into believing they had. Many of the people
in my parent's generation [mom b.1908; dad b.1916] did not learn to read
or write but were able to get by without even their family members
knowing it. My own dad has never graduated from anywhere K - ... even
though he has attended Texas Tech in Lubbock, TX and William Jewell
College, in Liberty, MO. It was not for lack of trying but lack of
money [or caring family when he was young]. Be careful how you explore
their past. It has everything to do with how they view themselves
today.
snip
And I don't blame them, but I know I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT "THOSE DAYS"
At what expense? What price does the V-T-B have to pay because you want
to know? How responsible will you be with their lives, for surely they
place their whole lives in your hands. Are you willing to share the
same sort of secrets with a total stranger from a different state who
SAYS that he/she is related, but you've never heard of this 'common
progenator'? How willing are you? Tom made the point very well when he
wrote about his reaction to his daughter's questions - and he kknows his
daughter. What if it had been a kid from some HUD housing district that
came to his door in torn clothes asking the same questions? When you
talk on the phone, you don't have the advantage of a visual analysis of
the person with whom you are speaking.
snip
> ... eventually some one will break the silence and tell about a few of
> them, if you are lucky.
Luck has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Preparation, Caring,
Self-discipline. Risking being hurt yourself by establishing a
relationship. Those are what gets the important information ... and
then you can keep it in context. Bare facts don't get twisted.
We've got to remember that these are people just like you and me. They
have family stresses about which we are curious. They have rewards in
which we want to share their delight. We are legal 'Peeping Toms'. Be
very careful about your attitude toward the V-T-B. Someday it will be
your turn to pass on to the next generation.
Ruth Ann
ahharris(a)worldnet.att.net
** [ the following e-mail was rejected by the list e-mail software
since it was too large. I know Jan didn't mean to leave the entire
digest appended to her message, but if you are in the digest mode and
hit the "reply" button on your mail program, it will copy the whole
thing back -- and the list software won't accept messages that big!
Please, remember to snip out the parts of messages that aren't relevant
to what you're saying (I've snipped the digest off of this so it will
go through). Oh, and thank you, Jan, for your comments on this topic.]
======= Jan's mail below ========
Interviews with older generations are always a problem, no matter how hard
you try to prepare. The standard answer I always got was "Why do you want
to know?" "What do you care?" ... You have to remember that some of these
older ones suffered day in & day out "without the basics" ... by that I
mean ... sometimes without enough food, clothing, etc. And NO ONE CARED.
So - it stayed with them, No One Cares!
When you show interest, it frightens them, makes them think you may be
going to try to "use it for something that might hurt them."
If you can get them to start with telling you something that might have
been FUNNY - mildly amusing - or have caused some type of laughter in their
lives - it gets them started. Then - you might not get them to shut up
.... but this is all "conversational" ... writing things down on paper is a
No-No. They will not do it! No matter how easy you think you are making
it for them.
Writing things on paper makes them THINK ... and that means thinking about
all of the hardships they endured. They just don't want to "re-live" those
days. And I don't blame them, but I know I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT "THOSE DAYS"
... eventually some one will break the silence and tell about a few of
them, if you are lucky.
Jan
At 09:22 AM 04/16/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:35:02 -0500
>From: Tom Cloud <cloud(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
>To: Cloud Family discussion list <CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980415113502.00830930(a)peaches.ph.utexas.edu>
>Subject: [CLOUD-L] intervieweeee reticence -- wat-2-do ?
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Do any of you experience difficulty getting people to share family
>information with you? I'm sure you do! Do you have any techniques
>that seem to work and that you'd be willing to share with me and the
>rest of the group?
... snip
I am trying to find if my William, supposedly born 1700 and by our
family tradition, married a "French lady" is the son of William who
married Elizabeth Ann Hayes, as we have long believed. Problem is
William and Elizabeth, I now find, were married in 1719; so I must be
wrong. Am posting my line below. Any clues would certainly be
appreciated. An article on my John Cloud is posted on my page under
"My Ancestors" with further data on my line. Bruce Evans
I am descended from WILLIAM CLOUD, born Frederick County VA. He
returned to England, then to France where he married a French lady,
name unknown. They lived in Edinburgh, Scotland where their son, JOHN
CLOUD may have been born on February 5, 1740. A son William , was born.
He later lived in GA. A third son, NOAH CLOUD, was born in VA in 1752.
Also there were several daughters, names unknown.
John, from whom I am descended, later attested he was born on New Light
Creek, NC. In 1776 John volunteered for the Militia in SC. He married
ELIZABETH (BETSY) LACY, a Cherokee Indian. Their son, WILLIAM, was born
in SC. NOAH, a second son, was born in 1800, then JEREMIAH, and ANN
(1824), all born in KY.
NOAH CLOUD, my ancestor, married DELITIA DELILAH FOLSOM CAMPBELL in
1838? Their children were MARY, 1840, NOAH JR., 1842, and NANCY ANN,
1847. Noah Jr, my great grand father, married MARY IZORA SMITH first,
and later EMMA DELLA PITTS in Natchotiches Parish, LA.
I have information on the ancestors of the first mentioned William and
on the LA families. Would be glad to compare notes or exchange for
further Cloud information.
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