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Jim:
Thanks for the "new info" on Tilman H. CLOUD. This is entirely
different from the Tilman that I had. here is the "OLD" data. Any Idea
which CLOUD Family he would belong to?
HUSBAND: Tilman Cloud
WIFE: Mary
CHILDREN:
1. Jessie P.
2. John B. Abt. 1894
3. Dora Abt. 1895
4. Thomas F. Abt. 1900
5. Richard Abt 1902
6. Viola ? Abt. 1906
I deleted this from my John Farmer CLOUD file but am keeping a copy so I
can use it in the future. I had the record of Henry and Ida from the
Saline Co Cemeteries data I had gathered.
You said you had more information on Jeremiah & Caron Berry (John
Farmers father). Do you have any documentation on the marriage date and
location of the marriage, ie; a listing from a genealogic source?
Also I have this Jeremiah the seed of William b. 17 Sep 1750 in
Anson/Rowan NC and his second wife
Elizabeth Mary Morgan. Does this jibe with what you have? I am trying to
prove my way back to the first William in Chester, PA
If you need proof on anything I have for John F. CLOUD let me know and I
will copy for you.
Thanks again,
Joe Farrell
Harley:
Many thanks for the info on Benjamin and also Tilman. In 1900 Census
Indian Territory (Chickasaw Nation) OK. Benjamin listed his wife as Ida
Thomas Cloud, children were listed as Dee E. (12) & Henry J. (8) there
were also listed two nephews Harold and Frank Thomas. Benjamin lived
near his brother Eugene.
Additionally:
John Farmer CLOUD, b. 28 Dec 1838
m. Minerva Gravitt (according to the Census page for her family in
Atlanta GA.) No "e"
1. Benjamin F. b. Feb 1857
2. Tilman
3. Eugene b. 15 Jan 1870
m. Doca (or Docea) have not been able to locate her anywhere as to
last name etc.
1. Ida b. 1 Mar 1899
2. Fred b. 12 May 1900 d. 30 Sep 1924 (he died when his dau.(my
wife) was 3 mos old)
3. Irene b. 25 Apr 1902 d. Apr/May 1997 in Lawton, OK resthome
4. Bessie b. 7 Apr 1904
5. Annie b. 4 Mar 1906
6. Gracie b. 11 Feb 1910
7. Arlie Earnest b. 23 Jan 1911
8. Eugene Franklin b. 19 Jan 1915
9. Tina June b. 10 Jun 1918
If you want more, I have info on the above childen as to when they died
and to whom they were married. I also have information on John Farmer
Cloud's service during the Civil War including his capture at Island 10
and his incarceration at Camp Douglas, IL (outside Chicago)
Hi Joe,
Interesting CLOUD message. Here is what I have on your question of
children of Benjamin F. of this fanily.
John Farmer Cloud b.ca1837 d.12/2/1912 See CFJ II-4 pg.9
m) Minerva Gravitte (6/25/1857 Benton, AR) b.ca1840 Atlanta, GA
1. Benjamin F. Cloud b.ca1859 AR
m) Sarah b.ca1856 AR
1+ James E. Cloud b.ca1875 AR
2+ William L. Cloud b.ca1877 AR
3+ Samuel P. Cloud b.ca1879 AR
2. Tillman Cloud b.ca1860 AR
m) Margaretta b.ca1865 AR
1+ Lillian Cloud b.ca1906 AR
2+ Anna Cloud b.ca1908 AR
3. Eugene Cloud b.ca1869 AR Tillman Co.,OK 1920
m) Doca b.ca1876 TX
1+ Ida Cloud b.ca1899 OK
2+ Fred Cloud b.ca1901 OK
3+ Irene Cloud b.ca1903 OK
4+ Bessie Cloud b.ca1905 OK
5+ Annie Cloud b.ca1907 OK
6+ Gracie Cloud b.ca1910 OK
4. William Cloud b.ca1871 AR
5. George Cloud b.ca1872 AR
6. Lela Cloud b.ca1873 AR
7. Isabel Cloud b.ca1875 AR
8. Carron Cloud b.ca1878 AR
Any additions and/or corrections to this family data are always
appreciated.
Regards,
Harley Cloud
McLean, VA
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Harley A. Cloud __________________ University of Maryland at Shady Grove
cloud(a)nova.umd.edu _________________________________ +1 301 738 6060 (V)
____________________________________________________ +1 301 738 6050 (F)
Director of Programs ___________________________ Rockville, MD 20850 USA
Hi All,
I am searching for information on Phillip W CLOUD & Family, as listed in
the Sistler 1870 Census TN Index:
CLOUD, Phillip W, 23, Williamson Co., TN
A copy of the Census page shows:
CLAUD Phillip W, 23, Marge(?), 20, William F, 2; Ellen, 1; Phillip,
38(?)
My family files show that my GGgranddad was Phillip W Claud, m. Mary
Addelaine Jackson; children:
William F (1867-1920)
Ella June (1869-1883) m. Stewart
Charles W (1871-1936)
Thomas C (1873-1893)
Nannie E. E. (1875-?) m. Leek
James Robert S (1877-1938)
Etta Viola (1879-?)
Sarah A (1882-1952) m. Turner
Enoch B (1883-?)
Phillipe W (1886-1920)
Walter William (1888-1918) m. Clara Wynn (my Ggrandpar)
John E (1891-1920)
Would anybody know this family or would someone have access to the 1880
& 1890 Census Index for Williamson Co., TN who could look up Phillip
CLOUD/CLAUD. Any help or advice appreciated. Thank you.
I hope this is not too long.
/rhon (ny)
mailto:graynurn@sprintmail.com
Mr. Brewton:
The obit for Grandma CLOUD is only one paragraph long. I have made a
copy which did not turn out real good which I can send but if you only
need the info I will reproduce it here for you.
Benton Courier: GRANDMA CLOUD
Mrs. Louisa Jane CLOUD (June Haynes) who was born in Georgia, March 30,
1828, came to Arkansas in early
life . . . married Madison M. CLOUD in 1845 near Benton. She joined the
Presbyterian Church in 1853, . . .
lived a consistent life in the same church for 64 years. She is survived
by Mrs. Sarah Matthews, Mrs. Mary Snow, Mrs. Tennie Carter, Mrs. Sue
Spear and Col. David M. Cloud.
My notes: She died 26 Nov 1917, buried Rosemont Cemetery, Benton,
Saline, AR
Married Madison M. Cloud 24 Aug 1845.
I wonder if you have any info on Benjamin F. CLOUD, b. 1857, son of John
Farmer Cloud? He is supposed to have married in Benton, AR had a family
and then abandoned the family. Would like his early family history if
possible. Wife's name and children names and ages (or birthdates).
Would like to find out when Jeremiah died (my records say 1852) and
where buried and also Cairon (his wife). At age 62 she was living with a
daughter in Benton, (1860 Census).
Also,there is a gap of ten years between Tilman CLOUD and Eugene. Could
John Farmer have been married twice?
Of course he was in the Civil War for five years until 1865. That could
explain the gap. Any ideas?
Joe Farrell
Hi!!
Have started two new e-mail lists - one for hunting ancestors and
connections in Newton County, GA (and the surrounding area), and one hunting
ancestors and connections in SPAIN. Hope the lists will make our searching
easier - please help spread the word! The name of the lists are GANEWTON
and SPAIN.
To join GANEWTON, send SUBSCRIBE in the message part of a post to:
GANEWTON-L-request(a)rootsweb.com - or to get the digest,
GANEWTON-D-request(a)rootsweb.com
and
To join SPAIN, send SUBSCRIBE in the message part of a post to:
SPAIN-L-request(a)rootsweb.com - or to get the digest,
SPAIN-D-request(a)rootsweb.com
Like the other lists I manage, these new lists are "restricted", meaning
only subscribers can post to them. This is due to the recent proliferation
of SPAM, and I wish it were not necessary, but it is.
Hope everyone was able to read my short review of the Cloud Fam Assoc
gathering, if not let me know will repeat.
Ken Cloud
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> From: Norma Thornton <nonie(a)pacbell.net>
> To: Stan Walker <walker(a)gulftel.com>
> Cc: 'CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com'
> Subject: Re: CLOUD reunion
> Date: 25 July, 1997 11:02 AM
>
> Stan Walker wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if others who were not fotunate enough to to attend the CLOUD
reunion would appreciate "attendees" giving us a report? I would.
> > Dorothy Walker
>
>
> YES, YES, YES!!!! WOULD LOVE ALL THE REPORTS WE COULD GET!!!
>
> Norma Jean HEATON THORNTON
>
Stan Walker wrote:
>
> I wonder if others who were not fotunate enough to to attend the CLOUD reunion would appreciate "attendees" giving us a report? I would.
> Dorothy Walker
YES, YES, YES!!!! WOULD LOVE ALL THE REPORTS WE COULD GET!!!
Norma Jean HEATON THORNTON
Dont know if I can give a review of happenings, but here goes. My wife
Joyce and I arrived at about 5pm on Friday evening, after along trip from
GA. Found the hospitality room in full swing, lot of folks chating and
exchanging Cloud information. this went on for the rest of the evening.
Since we had a lot of new folks attending there was an exceptional amount
of exchange taking place. Early Saturday we attended a great talk by Jan
Cloud concerning use of the Veterans Pensions for research. Jan has a way
of making all this very interesting and kept of laughing through out the
talk. Later had a very short business meeting, dispensing with much of the
formal stuff and getting right to the stuff at hand. It was decided that
the next gather would be at Raleigh, North Carolina. For 1999 we elected
Atlanta, GA and so thats the spot for then. After a really nice luncheon
we met again for a really interesting talk about Quaker history. Last head
count I heard was 138 folks from 28 states. Farthest travelers I met came
from Alaska, Had a lot of local area folks, who couldn't understand the
problems we have tracing our Clouds, theirs all came from right around
Chester Co. Spent the the rest of the day meeting and exchanging data
with everyone. Sunday was scheduled for a couple of bus tours lead by
Taylor Cloud. Morning tour was to have been of the Brandywine battlefield,
however it turned out it was closed till noon, so Taylor improvised. We
then made a quick pass of a couple Quaker cemeteries and then made our way
to the old Kennett Meeting and Cemetery. We all wander about the cemetery
checking all the headstones for our ancestors. We found many Clouds from
the early days there. It was strange, yet good to know we were walking the
same step many of our ancestors had. The meeting was was opened especially
for us and this was even more moving than the cemetery. The present leader
of the Kennett meeting gave a very interesting talk about the church and
how it had evolved over time. Took lots of pictures. We then toured
around the lands owned by William and his sons. We drove a loop around the
700 acres and were amazed just how big that is. We then visited the old
Bethel Church that was important in that early Cloud history. Since we had
a long drive home, we elected to leave after lunch, however the afternoon
tour was to tour the New Casle area, site of the first Cloud landings. We
both felt that this was the most enjoyable gathering we had attended and
came away really satisfied with the event. Hope this gives you a flavor
of the gathering, I probably left something out or got it wrong, but we had
a real good time.
Ken Cloud
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> From: Stan Walker <walker(a)gulftel.com>
> To: 'CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com'
> Subject: CLOUD reunion
> Date: 24 July, 1997 2:32 PM
>
> I wonder if others who were not fotunate enough to to attend the CLOUD
reunion would appreciate "attendees" giving us a report? I would.
> Dorothy Walker
>
Bill Kendall wrote:
>
> I am trying to locate the parents and forefathers of Benjamin T. Cloud.
> Benjamin was in Henderson County IL in 1860 and was 52 years old. He was
> born somewhere in TN according to the soundex file. His wife was Eliza
> Jane Pierce, age 37 born in TN. His children were James H.(22 TN),
> Isaac(20 TN), Ladora(18 TN), Susan C.(16 TN), John F.(11 IL), Henry A.(7
> IL), and Mary L.(4.5 IL). I've hit a dead end trying to locate Benjamins
> parents and county of birth. Any help or suggestions would be
> appreciated. Thanks. Bill Kendall, Grandson of John F.
Bill:
In going through some paperwork today I ran across a reference to
Benjamin CLOUD in a letter from Al CLOUD (e-mail) acloud(a)airmail.net,
Phone # 214-368-1846.
His Benjamin m. Eliza Jane PEARCE (note spelling) in 1856. They had ten
children and sometime between 1860 & 1880 moved from Polk Co. TN to
Henderson Co. IL. His father was Isaac & his mother was Isaac's second
wife Joanna.
If you need Albert Cloud's snail mail addx let me know.
Joe Farrell
Jan:
Since I sent you the Cemetery records I have found that the "Old
Rosemont Cemetery" entry for "LOUEASY" is really Louisa J. HAYNES CLOUD,
widow of Madison M. CLOUD. I have her obit from the local newspaper,
"The Benton Courier". The dod is the same but the obit has her b. as
Mar. 30 not Mar 25, 1828. She was born in GA. Of course obits are very
unreliable sometimes.
Hope you had a wonderful time at the reunion!
Joe
I wonder if others who were not fotunate enough to to attend the CLOUD reunion would appreciate "attendees" giving us a report? I would.
Dorothy Walker
Cousins, Listmembers -
1) The person referenced in the post I forwarded to the list the other
evening has apologized and closed his site. The data belonging to USGENWEB
is still available at USGENWEB sites and the USGENWEB archives at RootsWeb.
Other data is available at original sites linked from Gresinet and Cyndi's,
all of which are linked at http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch
2) Further discussion of the problems of the past weekend is not appropriate
on these genealogy lists. Copyright-L is the list for that sort of discussion.
3) One of the features of RootsWeb which some of you may not have tried is
the Roots Surname List. This month, for the first time, I have entered a
few of the surnames I am researching - and have already had responses!!!!
Overview of the Roots Surname List (RSL)
Updated 29 January 1997
Contents
What is the RSL?
How to Search the RSL
How to Submit Data for Inclusion in the RSL
If you prefer to learn about things by doing instead of simply reading about
them, and if you have access to the web, you might want to mosey over to
http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/Genea/rsl and poke around...
I. WHAT IS THE RSL AND HOW IS IT USED?
The Roots Surname List (RSL) is a list or registry of surnames (at the time
I write this, there are almost 200,000 surnames that have been submitted by
over 20,000 net.genealogists, with additional names arriving at the rate of
over 600 a day). Associated with each surname are dates and locations, and
information about how to contact the person who submitted the surname. If
you are researching a family with the same surname, in the same area and
similar timeframe, then you might find it useful to contact the person who
submitted the surname to share and compare notes. Do be realistic: if you're
researching Woodbury in Alabama in the 1800s, a person with info on the
Woodbury family of England in the 1600s isn't likely to be of much help. I
mention this because some submitters have withdrawn their data from the RSL
due to the flood of e-mail they're received, much of it as off target as the
example I just gave.
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If you'd like to have your surnames included in the RSL, there is a
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Alternatively, data may be submitted by e-mail. Directions on how to do
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If you see a surname listed that interests you, especially if there is a
good match on dates and locations, contact the person who submitted the
surname. If you're accessing the RSL via the interactive search on the web,
all you need to do to learn how to contact the submitter is to select their
nametag, listed at the end of each surname entry. Otherwise, you'll need to
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within the last twelve months) and the best we currently have on file. There's
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Due to the amount of data scrubbing involved, the web-searchable RSL is
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(We're exploring ways to update it more frequently without going nuts.
Please be patient!) Starting the next day, the new surnames are posted to
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Section II describes how to check the RSL for your surnames of interest.
Section III explains how to submit your data for inclusion.
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B. Via e-mail
There are now two mailservers that provide RSL lookups via e-mail.
They each employ a different syntax, so be sure, whichever you choose, that
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Commands go in the subject line, one per message. To check for the surname
Keithley in the RSL, use the subject line
find rsl Keithley
To get the contact information for submitter karen, use the subject line
find rsl-addr karen
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Send mail to rsl(a)genealogy.mksi.com with each surname on a separate line
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Please read this section carefully before submitting data. I receive a
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cranky
about the time wasted by obviously improperly formatted or otherwise
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a lot like the examples below.) And if the presentation below is too
confusing, the one in the family.faq may suit better.
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Send new entries and contact information to us at one of the addresses
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* Be sure to submit "how to reach you" information as well as surnames.
At the very least, that means your name and your e-mail address.
* Do not submit more than 100 surnames. (You can submit another 100 next
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* Do not put your surnames in CAPS.
* And no Tiny Tafels. They don't conform to the RSL format, and they
don't really contain the right information for the RSL. If you don't
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FORMATTING YOUR "HOW TO REACH YOU" INFORMATION
If you are submitting data for the first time, we need one or two lines of
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The lines for karen (me) are:
karen Karen Isaacson, karen(a)rand.org, karen(a)rootsweb.com
P.O. Box 6831, Pine Mountain Club, CA 93222
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In the same message as the "How to Reach You" information, include
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4. The migration of the family. For instance, if my ancestors started out
in Virginia, moved to Kentucky, then on to Missouri, this would be
VA>KY>MO,USA. If I still have room (remember, all fields should fit on
one line -- the long Keithley entry in the example below is pushing the
limit), then I add some county information to further distinguish the
family: OrangeCo,VA>KY>GentryCo,MO,USA. There is a list of most of the
abbreviations that are in use. It is in a file called family.abbrev and
perhaps the easiest way to retrieve it via e-mail ist to send a
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(without the quotation marks) "send RSL/abbrev". Or just spell out
the location in your submission, and the person who does the final data
entry will put in the proper abbreviation, if any.
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address list. See discussion above for how to select one.
The Roots Surname Index is rather oddly computerized. There aren't
any firm restrictions on the presentation of the data, but do try to use
something like the format suggested above and illustrated below.
Here are a few sample entries (my own, funny thing):
Bell 1780 1940 OrangeCo,VA>KY>GentryCo,MO,USA karen
Carr - see Kerr (karen)
Keithley c1750 1823DEU>PA?>MD>RowanCo,NC>FloydCo,IN,USA karen
Keithley c1750 1923 DEU>PA?>RowanCo,NC>KY>StCharlesCo,MO,USA karen
Kerr 1760 now HuntingdonCo,PA>VenangoCo,PA>IA,USA karen
Kicheli - see Keithley (karen)
WHEN TO SUBMIT
Try to get your additions or modifications in by the Thursday before the
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miss a deadline, not to worry: your surnames will have arrived in
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WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
Shortly after a new submission is received, a form letter acknowledgement is
sent. The new information will be included in the next monthly update.
Shortly after the update has been released, you'll receive a form letter
showing all the data we currently have on file for you. Your
surname(s) will continue to be listed in the full RSL (the one on the
mailservers
and web) for a year. At that time, you'll receive a second form letter checking
whether you can still be reached, and whether your data is still
current. A positive response results in another year in the RSL, after which you
receive another form letter, etc.
WHERE TO SUBMIT
Where do you sent your data so it can be included in the RSL?
Internet: rsl(a)rootsweb.com <- preferred
karen(a)rootsweb.com
Postal: Karen Isaacson <- not preferred
P.O. Box 6831
Pine Mountain Club, CA 93222
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Listowner for the GEN-MAT lists (new/used genealogical materials),
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COMSU(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> Would you happen to know if this Madison Cloud family is related
> in any way to the Clouds in Drew County (1880) census?
> The oldest member I have found is W W CLOUD who married
> Fannie E. _____ Chambers. She had been married before and
> had a son (7) listed--also two children Susan and J.J. They later
> had a son Thomas R. who is the g-grandfather of my grandson.
> Morris Linton Cloud who is a retired Baptist minister now living in
> the Malvern area is from this family.
>
> Sue------COMSU(a)aol.com
Sue:
Sorry I have no connection here to the names in your letter. If I run
across something later I will let you know.
Joe Farrell
On Wed, 16 Jul 1997 19:32:49 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:
>I have a good bit of material on "Cloud families in South Carolina" but you
>should send me a few names so i could know if it fits and I would need an
>address to send it by mail 'cause it would be to much for email. jim
Jim,
Sorry for butting in but I noticed you mentioned you had information
on Clouds from S.C.. I'm stuck (I mean brick wall) on James Cloud b.
between 1809 & 1821 in S.C.. He moved somtime to Jackson County Fla.
and m. Matlida Griffin in 1854. They had 12 kids, William (maybe from
another marriage), Stewart, Madison Mack, Henry, Zachariah A., John
W.,Sarah Sally, Carrie, James, Noah, Phillip C., and Matilda. There
could be a name change in here somewhere to or from Mcleod because of
a brother or cousin biting anothers ear off and running off. Thats
the story anyway :). Don't know which name is the orginal (Cloud or
Mcleod).
Thanks
Steve
KENNYC wrote:
>
> Jim
>
> maybe we can help Shirley so. See you in PA
>
> Ken Cloud
>
> ----------
> > From: CLOUDJW(a)aol.com
> > To: CLOUD-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > Cc: sdwillia(a)erols.com
> > Subject: Re: Cloud
> > Date: 16 July, 1997 7:32 PM
> >
> > I have a good bit of material on "Cloud families in South Carolina" but
> you
> > should send me a few names so i could know if it fits and I would need an
> > address to send it by mail 'cause it would be to much for email. jim
> >
Hi guys,,,,,,Mind if I join in here? Have been told Talitha CLOUD & Isaac
CANTRELL were my 6th Great Grandparents...their daughter Mary CANTRELL m
Sampson BETHEL, had at least one child, Dr. Tilman BETHEL who m Sarah ROOT
(DAUGHTERY), had at least one child, Mary Cantrell BETHEL m Peter DANIEL, &
had several kids, one being John W. DANIEL m Martha Ellen HAMPTON; they had
2 sons, one being Wm. Blueford "Bill" DANIEL m Artis Susan MANIS, etc, etc...
Wm. B. & Artie S. MANIS DANIEL were my G-G'parents.
Just this week was advised Talitha CLOUD was a G-G'dtr of one Wm CLOUD
who came to America on the ship SAFETY in 1635.
NONE OF THE INFORMATION I HAVE PAST Wm B & Artie S. MANIS DANIEL HAS BEEN
VERIFIED BY ME........
The following is my VERY MEAGER archived info we have on our CLOUD line:
Talitha CLOUD b ca 1710 m Isaac CANTRELL b ca 1710..........
.only info we have on them, except they had at least one child, a daughter named
Mary CANTRELL b 4 Dec 1754 in Spartanburg, SC d Spartanburg , SC m ca 1773
Rockingham, NC to
Sampson BETHEL b 10 Jul 1750 Spartanburg, SC
They had at least one child, son DR. Tilmon BETHEL b 5 Dec 1788 Spartanburg, SC
d 6 Sep 1865 Liberty, DeKalb, TN m Sarah ROOT (DAUGHERTY ?) at least one
child, dtr
Mary Cantrell BETHEL b 4 Jan 1816 DeKalb, TN d 15 Oct 1895 Dade Co, MO
m 2 Feb 1837 to Peter DANIEL
Mary Cantrell BETHEL & Peter DANIEL were my Maternal GGG G'parents.
Would greatly appreciate if you would send me any info you might have on
ANYTHING relating to Talitha CLOUD & ANY of her family...please let me know
via E how much postage you'll need, & will be happy to send a SASE of the
proper size & amount......
Thanks, and Happy Hunting~~~~~~
Norma Jean HEATON THORNTON
207 Tejon Av
Rio Linda, CA 95673
Always searching following names on both sides both our families:
BETHEL, BOOTH, CANTRELL, CARLTON, CRAWFORD, DANIEL(s), DAVIDSON,DECKARD,
FOX, GOODMAN, HAMPTON, HEATON, HENRY, HOLLOWAY, HOWELL, LEWALLEN, MANIS,
MARTIN, MUSE, NEFF, PURDUE, REYNOLDS, RODEBAUGH, ROLAND/ROWLAND, ROSS,
SEWARD, SIMON(s), STEWART, TEMPLE, THORNTON, TITUS, TURNER,ZARING/ZERRING.
Cousins, listmembers -
Because of concern for those of you who work so hard compliling your
data for your web pages, I thought you should read this message
posted to several lists today. if you receive more than one copy,
please excuse. Also, if you are entering info into your website,
please join us on Copyright-L as detailed in the post below.
Carol (Listowner for the GEN-MAT lists, IMMI-GRAND, RAN-CLAY,
ALBLOUNT, ALTUSCAL, Agnew, Bailey, Barker, Bell, Bowen, Bozeman,
Cannon, Carwile, Cloud, Creel, Crowder, Couts, DeVaughn, Ferguson,
Forde, Gannon, Garrett, Grogan, Head, Humphreys, Jordan, King,
Knotts, Lipscomb, Lynch, Page, Poole, Pursley, Roland, Sapp and
Thompson)
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>From: Dayna Cohen McMullen <mcmullen(a)bigfoot.com>
>Subject: BEWARE--Your data could be taken next..(long)
>
>Hi Folks,
>
> Just a quick warning about a "person" who is building quite
>a nice web site by taking our data right off the web pages where
>we either put it ourselves or where we gave someone permission
>to post it.....
>
>The site: "The World Genealogy Archives" (not be confused with
USGenWeb!!)
>TWGA is located at: <http://oasis.slcc.edu/search/>
>Maintained by a dirtbag named Matt Roller.
>
>I found the Alligood Cemetery records I transcribed to my Colquitt
Co., GAGenWeb
>page there this morning. He DID NOT have my permission to lift
them off my web
>site! He didn't ask! When I confronted him, he won't answer me or
the others
>who have also emailed him.
>
>I also found both of the TATE bibles and the MASHBURN bible text I
submitted to
>Anna Buxton's site "The Bible Archives at Matt Roller's site this
morning. Anna
>told me today that he never asked her to use them. He sure didn't
ask me.
>He even
>used my dialog verbatum, including the people's nicknames from our
bible
>records.
>
>If you have records online like these, census, wills, deaths,
burials, obits,
>marriages, births, diaries, journals, newletters, and so on...you
might want
>to check there to see if he has taken your info too.
>
>I talked to several people on the GALINA list this morning who also
found their
>records at his site after I told them where to look. There are more
victims on
>the new Copyright-l list too.
>
>What can you do about this you ask.....you can subscribe to a new
list and find
>out more about your rights to your data. It's called COPYRIGHT-L
and to
>subscribe
>send a message to:
>COPYRIGHT-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
>
>with this command: subscribe in the body of the message. Don't
forget
>to turn
>off your signature block.
>
>Another thing you can do is visit Matt Roller's guestbook and tell
him what you
>think of people who steal data off our web pages. The url for his
guestbook is:
>
>http://144.35.8.177/search/guestbook.htm
>
>And finally, you are free to contact his internet host which
happens to be
>(can you believe it?) Salt Lake City Community College
>
>
>Contributed by Dr. Brian Leverich and added here with his permission:
> ###
>
>Frank W. Budd <-- Campus President, Head Honcho
>
>Department: President's Office
>Phone: (801) 957-3311
>E-Mail: buddfr(a)slcc.edu
>
> ###
>
>Marjorie Carson <-- Second in command
>
>Department: Vice President
>Phone: (801) 957-4884
>E-Mail: CarsonMa(a)slcc.edu
>
> ###
>
>It's probably possible to dig all sorts of other interesting
>addresses out of the www.slcc.edu Website: I'd particularly
>recommend looking for the Executive Dean or somesuch and the
>Department of Public Safety. Senior deans and campus police both
>(for different reasons) tend to take dim views of things that cause
>problems off-campus. -B
>
>And lastly, you can boycott his site, other than to tell him what
you think
>in his guestbook, and
>show your support to the many people he has stolen from. People
think he
>has worked so hard at
>building a nice web site but little do they know how he got most of his
>data. Rather than just
>decide not to put your data out there for someone to take, why not
stand up
>against people like
>him and put them out of commission. Let's not deprive ourselves of the
>wonderful sharing and
>exchange we now enjoy because of people like Matt Roller. Thanks
for your time!
>
>
>
>Dayna Cohen McMullen mailto:mcmullen@bigfoot.com
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Genealogist against plagiarism--Please Boycott:
>* GenForum by Cliff Shaw at: <http://www.genforum.com/>
>* World Genealogy Archive by Matt Roller at:
> <http://oasis.slcc.edu/search/>
> NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH USGenWeb Archives!!
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Dayna's Southern Genealogy Page
>http://home.texoma.net/~mmcmullen/welcome.html
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Need a web page? Drop by:
>Dayna's Web Designs--Genealogy & GenWeb sites
>http://www.10mb.com/daynadesigns/welcome.html
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>
>
>
James:
Thanks for your input on my Jeremiah. Our information matches to a great
extent. I am convinced that the name of his bride was Cairon Berry. In
the 1860 AR census "CARY" CLOUD was living with Francis M. BENNETT (26)
& Mary B. CLOUD BENNETT (24). They had one child John C. (1).
Louisa J. HAYNES CLOUD, widow of Madison Moss CLOUD, is buried in
Rosemont Cemetery in Benton, AR, she died 26 Nov 1917. I have a copy of
the obit from the Benton Courier. She was survived by daughters, Sarah,
Mary, Tennie, Sue and son David M. I have the married names if that is
needed by you.
John Farmer CLOUD m. Minerva Gravitt, 25 Jun 1857 in Benton, Saline Co.
AR. 1850 census Forsyth Co. GA Minerva's parents are listed as William
And wife "Fanny". There were nine children at that time in the census.
John Farmer is the great grandfather of my wife Judy. Her grandfather
was Eugene CLOUD.
By the way I have a note from previous research showing Jeremiah CLOUD
b.1720 in Frederick, VA d. 4 Nov 1783 in Wilkes Co. GA. Spouse Sarah L.
CLOUD m. 1742 VA. No seed listed.
Again thanks and lets keep in touch.
Joe Farrell
Cousins,
I have not asked for any specific format for your posts to our
surname list, and I am not going to be "bossy" about one now - this
is OUR list, not mine - I just do the computer stuff for it -
HOWEVER -
lots of folks sort (and delete) their mail by what is (or is not) in
the subject line of the posts. If the surname you are asking about
in a query is the FIRST WORD of the subject line, your cousins will
be more likely to see the post, which will be more helpful to you.
Another thing that will help you is to put the STATE or PROVINCE (or
country, if other than the US or Canada) where these ancestors lived
somewhere in the subject line.
If you are volunteering to do lookups, asking a general question, or
anything other than posting a query, of course, this would not be
applicable - you would NOT need to put the surname as the first word
in the subject line, but would need to put a clear indication of
what your post is about.
As stated, this is NOT a "rule" for the list - YOU are sending the
query and YOU are the one to decide how you want the subject line to
read. This is only a suggestion that might help you find more
connections.
Carol <cch(a)netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch
LOOKING FOR parents of:
ANDERSON, Dorinda, b. 1862, Blount co., AL
AYCOCK, Martha, b.1833 Blount county, AL
GARRETT, Mary Susan, b. 1827, Lowndes co., AL
JORDAN, Thomas, b. 1832, Bibb County, GA
KING, Benjamin B., b. 1802, NC> Newton co., GA area bef. 1823
WOOD, Elinor S., b. 1805 "North GA" or SC> Newton co., GA area bef. 1823