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I have these random records since I am mildly interested in the Clothier (hi-lighted in Green here) family in relation to a possible Bryan ancestor (an Isaac Bryan) from Somerset Co., England but are mentioned in NJ/Pa:
"15 May 1738
Edward Blewnman & wife, Joan
to William Clothier of the Parish of Stroote
and Nathaniel Jenkins of the Township of New Garden in the County of Chester, Pensilvania"
This is after Isaac Bryan died since he is described as "late of Shepton Mallett County of Somerset,(ENGLAND) yeoman, deceased")
"in consideration of 130 pounds of good and lawful money of Great Brittaine" It appears that the land was in their possession and he made the deal complete with this document. The deed is long with many repeated legal passages.
Also recorded on 9 May 1757- as was the first deed in the chancery Court of Province of New Jersey. (and one of the document's witnesses was listed as "being one of the people called Quakers.")
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A note of the names above on deed:
Name: William CLOTHIER
Birth: Shepton Mallet, Somerset, England
Death: 19 OCT 1613
Misc. Notes Fr Ancestry.com
William CLOTHIER, b. 1705, Glastonbury, Somerset, England (mar Mary Cooper) immigrated to Philadelphia City, Philadelphia, PA in 1760 as per Quaker Meeting minutes
Father-James (1645-1714) Curry, Somerset, England and grandfather- Henry b. 1615
There is a Nathaniel Bryant married Hannah Clothier 12 AUG 1694 in Shepton, Somerset, England The name Wm Clothier is also the person who Edward Blinman tried to sell his grandfather’s land in 1738.
“Edward Blinman of Shepton Mallet, a Clothier(a trade, I believe), on May 10, 1682, obtained from William Penn a deed for 1000 Acres to be laid out in Pennsylvania. Edward Blinman or Blenman never came to Pennsylvania, but his town lots in Philadelphia were designated by his name on Holm’s map, and his purchase was subsequently made over to his fellow prisoner, Joseph Paull."
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“The 10th day of the 7th month by the account now in use in England, 1685, between Edward Blinman of the parish of Shepton Mallet in the county of Somerset, clothier of the one part and Joseph Paul of Ilminster in the county aforesaid, sergemaker of the other part &c. for 250 acres in Pennsylvania being one quarter of the said 1000 acres &c.”
“Isaac Bryan in the year 1679 had obtained a warrant from Govr. Carteret for 840 acres in Monmouth county for head lands. That said Bryan in pursuance of said warrant settled a tract of land in Shrewsbury in Monmouth County aforesaid and improved the same that he afterwards sold to one Edward Blenman who conveyed the same to said Clothier and one Nathaniel Jenkins...” (fr: The Minutes of the Board of Proprietors of the Eastern Division of New Jersey...Published 1949, page 306)
Page 311...”the Surveyor Gen'll, for surveying and laying out to the said William Clothier
and the representatives of the said Nathaniel Jenkins in common subject to …”
Also same page...”A petition of William Clothier was read, setting forth that one Isaac Bryan in the year 1679 had obtained a warrant from Govr. Philip Carteret for 840 acres in...”
Source: Land and People: A Cultural Geography of Pre-Industrial New Jersy Origins...by Peter O. Wacker, Pub. 1975 (Page 272-273)
“Grantees also often neglected to legally patent or survey their lands, further complicating the situation. Their rationale was to escape fees charged by surveryors and to not have their names and acres appear on the lists of quitrent arrears. An example of this was the petition of William Clothier to the East Jersey Proprietors in 1756. Clothier had lost his land because of an imperfect title. The original grantee of the land, one Isaac Bryan, had obtained a warrant for the land from Philip Carteret in 1679 for 840 acres in Monmouth County Bryan settled and improved a tract in Shrewsbury Township but had not applied for a legal patent or survey. Bryan had sold to the man from whom Clothier purchased. Unfortunately, before then another had applied for and been granted the legal patent.”
Hope this helps. I live in New Jersey. If you find any Bryans in YOUR research, I would appreciate if you let me know.
Pat
I have these random records since I am mildly interested in the Clothier (hi-lighted in Green here) family in relation to a possible Bryan ancestor (an Isaac Bryan) from Somerset Co., England but are mentioned in NJ/Pa:
"15 May 1738
Edward Blewnman & wife, Joan
to William Clothier of the Parish of Stroote
and Nathaniel Jenkins of the Township of New Garden in the County of Chester, Pensilvania"
This is after Isaac Bryan died since he is described as "late of Shepton Mallett County of Somerset,(ENGLAND) yeoman, deceased")
"in consideration of 130 pounds of good and lawful money of Great Brittaine" It appears that the land was in their possession and he made the deal complete with this document. The deed is long with many repeated legal passages.
Also recorded on 9 May 1757- as was the first deed in the chancery Court of Province of New Jersey. (and one of the document's witnesses was listed as "being one of the people called Quakers.")
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A note of the names above on deed:
Name: William CLOTHIER
Birth: Shepton Mallet, Somerset, England
Death: 19 OCT 1613
Misc. Notes Fr Ancestry.com
William CLOTHIER, b. 1705, Glastonbury, Somerset, England (mar Mary Cooper) immigrated to Philadelphia City, Philadelphia, PA in 1760 as per Quaker Meeting minutes
Father-James (1645-1714) Curry, Somerset, England and grandfather- Henry b. 1615
There is a Nathaniel Bryant married Hannah Clothier 12 AUG 1694 in Shepton, Somerset, England The name Wm Clothier is also the person who Edward Blinman tried to sell his grandfather’s land in 1738.
“Edward Blinman of Shepton Mallet, a Clothier(a trade, I believe), on May 10, 1682, obtained from William Penn a deed for 1000 Acres to be laid out in Pennsylvania. Edward Blinman or Blenman never came to Pennsylvania, but his town lots in Philadelphia were designated by his name on Holm’s map, and his purchase was subsequently made over to his fellow prisoner, Joseph Paull."
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“The 10th day of the 7th month by the account now in use in England, 1685, between Edward Blinman of the parish of Shepton Mallet in the county of Somerset, clothier of the one part and Joseph Paul of Ilminster in the county aforesaid, sergemaker of the other part &c. for 250 acres in Pennsylvania being one quarter of the said 1000 acres &c.”
“Isaac Bryan in the year 1679 had obtained a warrant from Govr. Carteret for 840 acres in Monmouth county for head lands. That said Bryan in pursuance of said warrant settled a tract of land in Shrewsbury in Monmouth County aforesaid and improved the same that he afterwards sold to one Edward Blenman who conveyed the same to said Clothier and one Nathaniel Jenkins...” (fr: The Minutes of the Board of Proprietors of the Eastern Division of New Jersey...Published 1949, page 306)
Page 311...”the Surveyor Gen'll, for surveying and laying out to the said William Clothier
and the representatives of the said Nathaniel Jenkins in common subject to …”
Also same page...”A petition of William Clothier was read, setting forth that one Isaac Bryan in the year 1679 had obtained a warrant from Govr. Philip Carteret for 840 acres in...”
Source: Land and People: A Cultural Geography of Pre-Industrial New Jersy Origins...by Peter O. Wacker, Pub. 1975 (Page 272-273)
“Grantees also often neglected to legally patent or survey their lands, further complicating the situation. Their rationale was to escape fees charged by surveryors and to not have their names and acres appear on the lists of quitrent arrears. An example of this was the petition of William Clothier to the East Jersey Proprietors in 1756. Clothier had lost his land because of an imperfect title. The original grantee of the land, one Isaac Bryan, had obtained a warrant for the land from Philip Carteret in 1679 for 840 acres in Monmouth County Bryan settled and improved a tract in Shrewsbury Township but had not applied for a legal patent or survey. Bryan had sold to the man from whom Clothier purchased. Unfortunately, before then another had applied for and been granted the legal patent.”
Hope this helps. I live in New Jersey. If you find any Bryans in YOUR research, I would appreciate if you let me know.
Pat
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Looking for Gamaliel and Mahlon Clothier. Both appear to have been born in or around Mt. Holly, NJ. Gamaliel was married in Philadelphia (Old Swede"s). I have found records for both in the 1790's (Philadelphia) as brickmakers. Any information would help.
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