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Author: TONYCEE
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You are absolutely correct in your information regarding which John died during the Revolutionary War. This mistake has been perpetuated for well over 100 years and mistakenly documented by the misinformation given to and used by the D.A.R. I have spent in excess of 40 years researching this family and have copies all of the documents pertaining to the four John's listed below, including Rev. War Records. This problem started because both father and son were in the war and their files at the National Archives were mixed together in the 1800's. Some of them have now been separated so that two files exist, but the problem still exists because of printed references and family history which has been accepted as gospel for well in excess of a century. Here's the short of it.
John the first (son of Jeremiah), married to Sarah, was born 1678 and died after 2 May 1748 and before 13 March 1748/49 (proved by land records and property inventories)
John the second (John1), married to Hannah, was born 3 January 1707 and died 15 January 1796 (proved by property deeds and division of property by will)
John the third (John1, John 2), married to Eunice, was born 1734 and died after 18 April 1801 and before 3 November 1803 (proven by 1800 census as well as land records, court records with property inventories, division of real and personal property. [my GGG Grandfather was executor or the estate])
John the fourth (John1, John 2, John 3), never married, was born 1758 and was killed 14 November 1777 (Rev. War Records; pg 7 of Connecticut Muster Roll shows death date - Last appears on Pay Roster for 1 Oct. thru 1 Nov. 1777 - pg 3 of Conn. Muster Roll shows death date and pay due of 8 shillings, 4 pence for period of 1 Nov. to 14 Nov. - Say His Head Was Blown Off By A Cannonball, No Record Of This Fact Has Been Found. The Cannonball Story Is Supposedly Documented In "Record In Connecticut Men Of The Revolution, War Of 1812, And Mexican War." Other Records Show That He Was Killed In November 1777 At The Battle Of Ft. Mifflin On Mud Island In The Delaware River. Ft. Mifflin Was Abandoned After A Brave Attempt To Hold Philadelphia.
I hope that this info will help all of those trying to sort out the John problem for any of those who are looking to sort it out.
Tony
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Author: hewittroes_1
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It was John lll's son John lV who died in Nov. of 1777 at Fort Mifflin, PA.
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Author: TONYCEE
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Your grandfather, Rollin H. Randall Hemenway married Mae Amanda Clothier at Hudson, St. Croix County, Wisconsin on 24 November 1921 very near where he was born. Mae was born 17 September 1900 at Beaver City, Beaver County, Oklahoma. Mae's father William Lawrence "Happy" Clothier was a railroad man and he and his family moved frequently. William was born in 1866 and by 1933 he had lived in no less than 20 different places. He died in 1949 in Ceres, California and his wife Hattie Montesa Allphine Clothier died in 1950 at the same place.
William's first wife died less than 11 months after they were married in 1887. They had no children. William did not marry a second time until 10 years after his first wife's death.
Hope this helps.
Tony Clemente
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Author: realbob23
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My grandmother's name was Mae Amanda Clothier. I think she was born in Hudson, Wisconsin in 1900. She married Rollin H R Hemenway. They lived in the midwest until the late 30s, then they moved to California. Her father was William Larry Clothier.
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