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My Helen Clothier was raised by Marshall and Mary (Mae) Boyd Clothier in
Canton, NY. Her birth parents were in the hamlet of Pyrites NY. I have
never found a legal adoption record in the Surrogates court here. Her son
was named Robert Clothier. They left this area and moved to Chicago,
Illinois. Helen came home for her father's funeral in 1952 and has never
been heard from since. Not knowing your Robert's mother's name or birth
year made me wonder if we could be connected. My Clothiers came from
Kemptville, Ontario, Canada. I am always happy to share, but I don't think
we can both claim your Robert. Thanks Walt
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Subject: [CLOTHIER] Re: Robert S. Clothier family of Illinois???
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> I forgot about one important detail. You say that the Robert S. Clothier
you have was born to a woman named Helen, and my Robert Clothier Junior was
born to a Grace Elizabeth. So, unless she had her name changed legally, or
went by Helen as a nickname, then we are probably not talking about the same
person. On the other hand, your Robert Clothier may be related to the
family I am researching some other way.
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I forgot about one important detail. You say that the Robert S. Clothier you have was born to a woman named Helen, and my Robert Clothier Junior was born to a Grace Elizabeth. So, unless she had her name changed legally, or went by Helen as a nickname, then we are probably not talking about the same person. On the other hand, your Robert Clothier may be related to the family I am researching some other way.
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I don't have anything but a name. Grace Elizabeth Whitehouse's parents were Byron Malcolm Whitehoue, born 12/4/1887 in Richmond, WI, died 6/1982 in Las Vegas, and Grace Willard, d. 1946. They had two other daughters also, Maryruth and Nancy Jean. They would have all been raised in the Chicago area, which is where Bryon spent a whole career in the lumber business.
Grace Elizabeth was probably born in sometime the 1910s, and would have been of child-bearing age as of 1936. As I stated, one of her five children was also named Robert. He could have been a junior, and had middle initial S. like father. Your Robert S. Clothier, married to Helen, may therefore have very likely been Grace Elizabeth's son.
What additional information can you share? Thanks.
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Do you have an approximate year of birth. I have a Robert S. Clothier born in NY in 1936 to Helen Clothier. He was in Chicago, Ill in 1957.
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Does anyone have information about this man? He was married to a Grace Elizabeth Whitehouse. Together they had five children, Leslie Ann, J. Geoffrey, Nancy, Robert and Mark.