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>Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:22:04 -0600
>To: Closson-l-request(a)rootsweb.com
>From: Louise Rosett <lrosett(a)mindspring.com>
>Subject: Red hair
>
>At last there is something I can contribute to the list. Although my
Closson line is distant: my great great grandmother was a Closson, two of my
sisters have red-hair. No one on either of side of the family could remember
anyone having red hair. So now maybe we know the source. And yes, there are
several adamant cat lovers in the family.
>
>Louise
>
lrosett(a)mindspring.com
Albuquerque, New Mexico
Marriage Index: Massachusetts, 1633-1850 (Family Archive CD 231)
Through October 20, 1998, you can get unlimited FREE online access to
the data in Family Archive CD 231 if you own Family Tree Maker for
Windows version 4.0, 4.4, or 5.0 and you have registered in Family
Tree Maker Online.
Family Archive CD 231 indexes approximately 837,500 marriage records
for individuals from Massachusetts who were married between 1633 and
1850. In all, 14 counties are covered: Barnstable, Berkshire, Bristol,
Dukes, Essex, Franklin, Hampden, Hampshire, Middlesex, Nantucket,
Norfork, Plymouth, Suffolk, and Worchester.Go to the following Web page:
http://www.familytreemaker.com/broadcast/_k401_cd231/index.html
The following CLOSSONs were included and, in each case, the information was
different or additional to what I already had. I have added the Josiah
Closson
ancestors for you to update your files if you have these lines. The
references
are listed:
Closson, Joseph b. 2 Mar 1737/38<<Josiah, Timothy, Josiah, Joseph>>
m. 09/15/1760
MA CD 231 Marriage Index: Massachusetts,1633-1850
Married: 09/15/1760, Spouse: Cornell, Mehitable
City: Dartmouth, County: Bristol
Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Ut, Film # 0883792.
Closson, Mary <<unknown to me - can anyone help?>>
m. 10/12/1827
MA CD 231 Marriage Index: Massachusetts, 1633-1850
Married: 10/12/1827, Spouse: Faque, Hypolite N.
City: Boston, County: Suffolk
Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Ut, Film #
0818093-0818095.
Closson, Martha b. 25 Feb 1758<<Josiah, Timothy, Josiah, Martha>>
m. 02/25/1758
MA CD 231 Marriage Index: Massachusetts, 1633-1850
Married: 02/25/1758, Spouse: Brownell, Benjamin
City: Dartmouth, County: Bristol
Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Ut, Film
# 0883792.
Closson, Helen Maria b. 1825<<Josiah, Nehemiah, John3, John4, Simon, John
Rice, Helen>>
m. 11/07/1845
MA CD 231 Marriage Index: Massachusetts, 1633-1850
Married: 11/07/1845, Spouse: Miner, John T.
City: Lowell, County: Middlesex
Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Ut,
Film # 0927928.
Anyone who has Massachusetts Marriages to check other than these Clossons and
does not have access with FTM, is invited to email me - before Oct. 20
Regards,
Bob
Robert James
74 Downer Crescent
Wasaga Beach, Ontario
Canada
L0L 2P0
(705) 429-6768
robjame(a)georgian.net
I suspect the Whaley family is a bit off-topic for the Closson list service
but I will reply with some additional comments about this man.
Theodosia Whaley was born one of seven children to Theophilus Whaley and
Elizabeth Mills. Their children included: Joan, Annie, Theodosia, Elizabeth,
Lydia, Samuel, and Martha (b 1680). I don't have much information on the
births of these people so the order is not set.
Theophilus is the subject of much speculation. First, we know he existed. He
lived on the farm of Colonel Francis Willet at the north end of Pelequamscot
Pond in Narragansett. He was said to be a man of learning who could read and
write and understood both Latin and Greek. Theophilus lived by fishing and
writing for the settlers of the community. He was, however, quoted as saying
that until he was 18 years old he did not know what it was like to be
without a servant.
During his life there was speculation that he was the regicide, Edward
Whaley, but there are too many differences between them. Another speculation
that has yet to be proven is that he may have been Edward's brother Robert
who served as a Lieutenant in Heckler's Regiment that carried out the
execution of Charles I. Or, he could be someone else entirely...
In any event, there are some things known about him. He married Elizabeth
Mills, d/o of John Mills, in VA and they later moved to RI [Marriages of
Some Virginia Residents 1607 - 1800]. While in VA, Theophilus lived in
Rappahannock County and held land there [Genealogies of Rhode Island
Families].
After the death of his wife, he moved in with his daughter Theodosia Spencer
in West Greenwich. It is said he was born in 1616 and died in 1719/20 at the
age of 104 years.
In 1709/10 Theophilus and Elizabeth deeded land in Kingstown RI to their son
Samuel [Historical Register of RI].
-*-*-*-
IF Theophilus Whaley was Robert or otherwise related to Edward Whaley the
Regicide, he was a cousin of Oliver Cromwell. This is the facinating part of
the tale that usually captures people. While I've checked out the line, and
most Whaley researchers ascribe to the connection, I go back and forth on
whether the connection is truely proven. Additional information can be
researched on the Whaley-L(a)rootsweb.com list.
I hope this has helped. Oh yes, after Theodosia died in 1748 Robert Spencer
married Martha Whaley Hopkins (Theodosia's sister). Martha was the mother of
Judge Samuel Hopkins and also had a daughter.
Mark Spencer Daly
markd(a)city-net.com
http://www.city-net.com/~markd/
Thanks, Bob -- but I have checked out the gegicide Edward Whalley in
multi-sources and have not found anything to indicate he would be the
same family as Rosanna Whalley Poppleton. Does anyone have anything
to show such? or to show that the Theodosia/Theophilus is anything
more than a family tradition/fantasy?
Harman
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob James <robjame(a)georgian.net>
To: CLOSSON-L(a)rootsweb.com <CLOSSON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 9:04 PM
Subject: [CLOSSON-L] Theodosia Whaley
>This is lifted right from Mark's website.
>
>A Brief on Edward Whaley, the Regicide
>(paraphrased from Rev Samuel Whaley's work noted below)
>Edward served during the civil war and rose from Cornet in the 60th
>regiment of horse to Colonel of Horse. He was given charge of Charles
I by
>an act of the Commons and a court was created for the express purpose
of
>sitting in judgement of the king. There were over 50 signatures
listed on a
>facsimile of the death warrant printed in Rev. Whaley's book; Oliver
>Cromwell's was second and Edward Whaley's third.
>
>With the restoration of the monarchy, Edward fled to the continent
and then
>on to Boston about the time Charles II entered London. About 20 of
the
>Charles I's judges were dead by the time the monarchy was restored;
and
>Charles II executed another nine. No wonder Edward (and his
son-in-law
>William Goffe fled the country). Arrest warrants were issued for many
but
>those who made it to the colonies had a chance the locals might turn
a
>blind eye.
>
>(commentary by Mark Daly)
>
>Edward Whaley lived in the open while in North America. Whenever
soldiers
>came to get him, friends would warn him and he and his family would
move
>on. It would appear the colonists, even then, had an independent
nature.
>William Goffe, too, did not take steps to hide himself. Given this, a
few
>historians now believe Edward Whaley was Theophilus.
>
>
>Robert James
>74 Downer Crescent
>Wasaga Beach, Ontario
>Canada
>L0L 2P0
>
>(705) 429-6768
>
>robjame(a)georgian.net
>
>
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>
Mark Daly,
Do you know anything about this particular John Spencer? Does he connect
into your family somehow? I am a descendant of Caleb Closson and Tryphosa
Spencer.
Carol Munns
Descendants of John Spencer
Generation No. 1
1. JOHN1 SPENCER was born 1770 in Granville, Washington Co., NY, and died
1847 in Clayton, NY. He married NANCY WARNER, daughter of NATHANIEL
WARNER.
Children of JOHN SPENCER and NANCY WARNER are:
i. SIDNEY2 SPENCER.
ii. JASON SPENCER.
iii. HANNAH SPENCER.
iv. AMBROSE SPENCER.
v. JOHN C. SPENCER, b. Loraine, Jefferson Co., NY; m. (1) ELVIRA HALL; m.
(2) ATWOOD.
vi. ALBERT SPENCER.
vii. ALONZO SPENCER.
2. viii. TRYPHOSA SPENCER, b. 1803, Granville, Washington Co., NY; d. 1837,
Jefferson Co., NY.
ix. PERSIS SPENCER.
x. URBAN SPENCER.
3. xi. TRYPHENA SPENCER, b. September 30, 1817, Granville, Washington Co.,
NY; d. December 25, 1893, Frazee, Minnesota (Evergreen Cemetery, Todd Co.,
MN overlooking Horseshoe Lake.
4. xii. AURILLA SPENCER.
Generation No. 2
2. TRYPHOSA2 SPENCER (JOHN1) was born 1803 in Granville, Washington Co.,
NY, and died 1837 in Jefferson Co., NY. She married CALEB CLOSSON 1823,
son of JOHN CLOSSON and LYDIA.
More About CALEB CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Served in MN, WI, and NY State Legislatures.
Fact 2: Remained in Jefferson Co., NY, until about 1847.
Children of TRYPHOSA SPENCER and CALEB CLOSSON are:
i. ALBERT3 CLOSSON, b. March 06, 1824, Clayton Township, Jefferson Co.,
NY; d. October 23, 1910, Sauk Center, Minnesota (Greenwood Cemetery); m.
FRANCES LAMPHERE, 1843, Jefferson Co., NY.
More About FRANCES LAMPHERE:
Fact 1: Frances' family moved from RI to Boston, Massachusetts
Fact 2: Then they moved to Jefferson County, NY where she met and married
Albert Closson
Fact 3: Perry and Will Lamphere went with Albert and Frances to
Pennsylvania
Fact 4: They needed to be near the mountains as Will had consumption.
Fact 5: Will died of consumption in Pennsylvania.
Fact 6: Information taken from Geonealogical Dictionary of RI, John Osborne
Austin.,
Fact 7: Dictionary, 1887, p. 119
Fact 8: Other info from Laura Closson (Mrs. Eugene Closson), Sauk Center,
MN
Fact 9: Other info from Dr. William H. Gilbert of Silver Springs, Maryland
ii. JOHN CLARK CLOSSON, b. 1826, Clayton Township, Jefferson Co., NY; m.
ISABELLA.
More About JOHN CLARK CLOSSON:
Fact 1: They moved to Wisconsin before 1850
Fact 2: They moved to Faribault, Rice Co., MN about 1854 and were there in
1882
Fact 3: History of Rice County, MN, Charles S. Bryant, 1882, p. 521
Fact 4: He was a drayman.
iii. JARED CLOSSON, b. 1828, Clayton Township, Jefferson Co., NY; d. 1892;
m. ELIZA HALLEY.
iv. JOSEPH CLOSSON, b. 1830, Clayton Township, Jefferson Co., NY; m. SUSAN
KOONS, 1853, Wisconsin.
More About JOSEPH CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Remained at home in Jefferson Co., NY until age 16.
Fact 2: Then came to Wisconsin where he married his wife, Susan Koons.
Fact 3: They came to Rice Co., MN, in 1855 and farmed.
Fact 4: Served 9 mos in Co. C of 6th MN Vol. Inf. & was discharged at Ft.
Snelling.
v. AMASA CLOSSON, b. 1833, Clayton Township, Jefferson Co., NY; d. in the
South during the Civil War; m. CAROLINE PATTERSON, Abt. 1856.
More About AMASA CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Died in 1860's in Civil War ambush.
Fact 2: Amasa was assigned to an Ambulance Corps in the Civil War.
Fact 3: He died in a southern hospital.
vi. MARTILLA CLOSSON, b. 1835, Clayton Township, Jefferson Co., NY; m. B.
R. PALMER.
More About MARTILLA CLOSSON:
Fact 1: She is also called Hannah M., age 19 in US Census of 1850, Rock
Co., WI
3. TRYPHENA2 SPENCER (JOHN1) was born September 30, 1817 in Granville,
Washington Co., NY, and died December 25, 1893 in Frazee, Minnesota
(Evergreen Cemetery, Todd Co., MN overlooking Horseshoe Lake. She married
CALEB CLOSSON Abt. 1841 in Jefferson Co., NY, son of JOHN CLOSSON and
LYDIA.
More About TRYPHENA SPENCER:
Fact 1: After Caleb died, she lived with her son, George.
Fact 2: They lived in a little place on Albert's farm near Browerville.
Fact 3: While visiting her daughter in Frazee, MN, she died suddenly in
1893.
More About CALEB CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Served in MN, WI, and NY State Legislatures.
Fact 2: Remained in Jefferson Co., NY, until about 1847.
Children of TRYPHENA SPENCER and CALEB CLOSSON are:
i. SCHUYLER3 CLOSSON, b. 1842, Jefferson Co., NY; d. 1863.
More About SCHUYLER CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Unmarried
Fact 2: Served in Civil War perhaps in Florida
Fact 3: Came with Caleb and family to WI and MN
Fact 4: Was in Cannon city Township, Rice Co. MN when Civil War started
ii. MINA ELMA CLOSSON, b. 1844, Clayton, Jefferson Co., NY; m. (1)
REYNOLDS; m. (2) BENJAMIN HARLAN GILBERT, May 02, 1864, Round Prairie, MN.
More About MINA ELMA CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Divorced January 17, 1884
iii. SUSAN CLOSSON, b. 1846, Clayton, Jefferson Co., NY; m. THOMAS RICE.
More About SUSAN CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Later in her life, she lived in Berkeley Hills, CA.
More About THOMAS RICE:
Fact 1: Thomas Rice ran a grocery store at Old Hartford, MN
Fact 2: Store was destroyed during the Indian out break.
Fact 3: Later they ran a hotel in Frazee, MN in 1893.
iv. ELIHU BASSETT CLOSSON, b. 1848, Magnolia Town, Rock Co., WI; d.
November 08, 1907, Brainerd, Minnesota; m. LAURA TELLER.
More About ELIHU BASSETT CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Worked in Northern Pacific paint shop as foreman
Fact 2: They lived in Sacramento, San Francisco and Los Angeles,
California.
v. CHARLES CLOSSON, b. 1851, Magnolia Township, Rock County, Wisconsin; m.
MARGARET.
More About CHARLES CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Resided in Salt Lake City, Utah and had two daughters.
vi. DWIGHT W. CLOSSON, b. 1853, Magnolia Township, Rock County, Wisconsin;
m. (1) CLARA ISABEL NICKESON, April 04, 1881; m. (2) JULIA PETERSON, Abt.
1896.
More About DWIGHT W. CLOSSON:
Fact 1: He resided in Mason City, IA, with his second wife who had 6 sons
by first marr.
Fact 2: He was the twin of DeWitt
More About CLARA ISABEL NICKESON:
Cause of Death (Facts Page): Consumption
vii. DEWITT CLOSSON, b. 1853, Magnolia Township, Rock County, Wisconsin;
d. 1861.
More About DEWITT CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Twin of Dwight
Fact 2: Family record confused. Some say he died in 1861.
Fact 3: Others say that he left a wife and daughter in Cannon City, MN.
viii. GEORGE CLOSSON, b. April 15, 1854, Magnolia Township, Rock County,
Wisconsin; d. June 15, 1904, Long Prairie, MN.
More About GEORGE CLOSSON:
Fact 1: Buried in Evergreen Cemetery, Todd County, MN, overlooking
Horseshoe Lake.
Fact 2: Lived with the Nickesons most of his life.
Fact 3: Later lived with his mother, Tryphena, in a little place Albert
Closson made.
Fact 4: Albert's place was a 40 acre farm 3-4 miles east of Browerville.
ix. ELLA CLOSSON, b. 1857, Cannon City Township, Rice Co., MN; m. (1)
ARTHUR SHEETS; m. (2) UNKNOWN.
More About UNKNOWN:
Fact 1: Was a cousin of Ella's
x. FLORA CLOSSON, b. 1859, Cannon City Township, Rice Co., MN; m. JOHN
SHEETS.
More About JOHN SHEETS:
Fact 1: They went to Montrose, California.
Fact 2: Were near Elihu Bassett family in Los Angeles at one time.
4. AURILLA2 SPENCER (JOHN1). She married ...........BRANT, son of
UNKNOWN.
Child of AURILLA SPENCER and ...........BRANT is:
i. BILL3 BRANT, m. .........BUCKLEY.
More About BILL BRANT:
Fact 1: Lived near Fairy Lake, MN
Harman,
I found this entry in "Little Compton Families" by Benjamin Franklin
Wilbour regarding The Whalley Family.
William Whalley, son of John and Jane (Waring) Whalley, born in England 8
July 1838, died in Little Compton 19 September 1912, buried in Pleasant
View cemetery.
He married Ann Riding, daughter of Richard and Ann (Spencer) Riding, born
in Lancaster, England, 8 February 1842, died in Little Compton 30 January,
1922. Residence: Little Compton.
Children, recorded in Little Compton;
i. Jane, b. 28 June 1868 in Barnafurnace, England; died 13 January 1938;
married in Little Compton 8 November 1884 Charles Ellery Briggs, son of
Charles F. and Ann (Manchester) Briggs.
ii. Alice, b. 4 May 1878; died 9 June 1925; married 18 October 1906 in
Little Compton George Franklin Simmons, son of William T. and Lucy F.
(Grinnell) Simmons, born in 1882.
I don't know if this information fits into anything you have. They may be
relatives from England who came over later. What do you think?
Carol Munns
This is lifted right from Mark's website.
A Brief on Edward Whaley, the Regicide
(paraphrased from Rev Samuel Whaley's work noted below)
Edward served during the civil war and rose from Cornet in the 60th
regiment of horse to Colonel of Horse. He was given charge of Charles I by
an act of the Commons and a court was created for the express purpose of
sitting in judgement of the king. There were over 50 signatures listed on a
facsimile of the death warrant printed in Rev. Whaley's book; Oliver
Cromwell's was second and Edward Whaley's third.
With the restoration of the monarchy, Edward fled to the continent and then
on to Boston about the time Charles II entered London. About 20 of the
Charles I's judges were dead by the time the monarchy was restored; and
Charles II executed another nine. No wonder Edward (and his son-in-law
William Goffe fled the country). Arrest warrants were issued for many but
those who made it to the colonies had a chance the locals might turn a
blind eye.
(commentary by Mark Daly)
Edward Whaley lived in the open while in North America. Whenever soldiers
came to get him, friends would warn him and he and his family would move
on. It would appear the colonists, even then, had an independent nature.
William Goffe, too, did not take steps to hide himself. Given this, a few
historians now believe Edward Whaley was Theophilus.
Robert James
74 Downer Crescent
Wasaga Beach, Ontario
Canada
L0L 2P0
(705) 429-6768
robjame(a)georgian.net
>
>Would someone be so kind as to instruct me in the fine art of
>accessing and reading the old CLOSSON-L rootsweb postings? I
>have only been subscribed since 7/20/98 and would love to look at
>the old postings made prior to that date.
>
>Thank you in advance,
>
>Dick Hudson
>
>
Hi Dick,
go to the rootsweb search page
(http://newsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl).
Type in the name of your list (Closson)(you can leave off the -L). Click the
submit
button or hit your ENTER/RETURN key.
Follow the search examples shown on the next screen. If your list has been
active longer than 1 year, you will need also select which year to search
by clicking in the appropriate button.
This mail list has been in existence since July '98 - so you won't find any
before then. I have all the postings and would be happy to forward them
directly to anyone who wants any or all.
Regards,
Bob
Robert James
74 Downer Crescent
Wasaga Beach, Ontario
Canada
L0L 2P0
(705) 429-6768
robjame(a)georgian.net
Mark Said:
<<I forgot one detail that came down through the family; Zilpha Closson had
red hair. A minor note but one that stands out a bit.
Mark Spencer Daly>>
I've been waiting for this one. My daughter, Tracy, has red hair. My
mother (Kathryn Closson James) has red hair. My grandfather (William
Gideon Closson) had red hair. When I was a boy, red hair was touted as a
Closson trait. Is it? Come on listers - is red hair prevalent in your
part of the Closson family??
Carol Munns and I got into the "Closson traits" - she got silly and wanted
to include "liking cats". <G> One thing that does amaze me as I record the
Closson genealogy is the number of carpenters in the genealogy. The
Clossons that I knew were very good woodworkers.
Well ??
Regards,
Bob
Robert James
74 Downer Crescent
Wasaga Beach, Ontario
Canada
L0L 2P0
(705) 429-6768
robjame(a)georgian.net
OK folks -- drop the other shoe and tell us about Theodosia Whaley's
father!!
And, is there any connection between Theodosia and Rosanna
Whalley, who married Samuel Poppleton -- Sam & Rosanna's daughter,
Eunice, married Timothy Closson. I have been trying to find out about
the Poppletons and Whalleys.
Harman
>Thanks for telling the story. Sounds like there is a tenuous
connection from
>Zilpha's and Abigail's lineage. It's ok, I'm used to it. Their
>mother-in-law, Theodosia Whaley, has an interesting father that many
suspect
>was living under an alias... To the Spencer story...
Hi All,
Would someone be so kind as to instruct me in the fine art of
accessing and reading the old CLOSSON-L rootsweb postings? I
have only been subscribed since 7/20/98 and would love to look at
the old postings made prior to that date.
Thank you in advance,
Dick Hudson
The story continues...
After Zilpha Closson's apparent death, Michael Spencer married his
sister-in-law Abigail Closson. Of their children I have some information.
Their children included:
1. Robert Spencer (20 Feb 1740 - 1820) married Thankful ______ and later
moved to Montreal, Canada. I believe he joined the Loyalists during the War
of Independence.
2. Nathaniel Spencer (30 Jul 1742).
3. Michael Spencer (18 Apr1744). He served during the War of Independence on
the colonials side.
4. Nathan Spencer (23 Apr 1746).
5. Joanna Spencer (15 Jan 1747).
6. Caleb Spencer (27 Dec 1750 - 1806) married Jerusha Covell (b Chatham MA -
1836) and died in Windam, Greene Co, NY. He served during the War of
Independence on the colonials side.
7. Samuel Spencer (15 Aug 1752).
8. James Spencer (26 Feb 1754).
9. Theodosia Spencer (2 Mar 1755).
10. Lydia Spencer (8 Aug 1756).
11. Sarah Spencer (17 Jul 1758 Exeter RI).
12. Mary Spencer (17 Jul 1758 Exeter RI).
I don't want to be disrespectful but it looks like Abigail was having babies
for 18 years!
Well, this is what I currently know about these families. I may have
additional information in The Four Brothers series by Flora Clark. If anyone
needs information on the Spencer line, let me know. I have information on
the Spencer line to about 1500.
As an aside, I will be replacing most if not all of my web site sometime in
the next month or two. I've been working on a revision off and on for some
time and it's actually getting closer.
Mark Spencer Daly
markd(a)city-net.com
http://www.city-net.com/~markd/
Bob,
Thanks for telling the story. Sounds like there is a tenuous connection from
Zilpha's and Abigail's lineage. It's ok, I'm used to it. Their
mother-in-law, Theodosia Whaley, has an interesting father that many suspect
was living under an alias... To the Spencer story...
As I've already discussed Michael Spencer, I'll concentrate on the children
of his two marriages.
Theophilus Spencer (1732 - 1793) was born in Exeter or West Greenwich RI to
Michael Spencer and Zilpha Closson. On 11 Nov 1757 he married Elizabeth
Matteson (1744 - bet 1800 and 1810) in RI (yes, if you do the math she was
13). Elizabeth was the daughter of Abraham Matteson and Freelove Phillips.
Theophilus and Elizabeth had several children in RI before moving to
Pawling, Dutchess Co, NY; these children are:
i. Martha who married Timothy Butte.
ii. Eunice who married John Leonard.
iii. Betsey or Elizabeth
iv. Abigail
v. Theophilus
vi. Rodman (19 Feb 1759 Litchfield CT - 10 May 1811 NY) married
Abigail _____ and had a daughter named Phebe.
vii. Michael (26 May 1761).
viii. Zilpha (b c1777) married Stephen Davis.
ix. Enoch (8 Jun 1779 Pawling NY - 3 Jun 1869) married Lydia Turner
(c1784 - 1840).
x. Mary Ann (c1788 - aft 1850).
Enoch is my 4th gr-grandfather. He married Lydia sometime shortly after 1800
in the Town of Pawling.
I have other Spencer/Closson information that I will include in later
messages.
Mark Spencer Daly
markd(a)city-net.com
http://www.city-net.com/~markd/
Hi Jim,
No I do not have any of the folks you are interested in, but I do have a
mailing list that may be of some help. Most all the people that belong to
the list are Closson Cousin's.
Quick Instructions:
To subscribe, send an e-mail message to:
CLOSSON-L-request(a)rootsweb.com (for individual messages)
CLOSSON-D-request(a)rootsweb.com (for a digest of multiple
messages)
In the body include only one word: subscribe
(Turn OFF your sigature file when sending this command)
To post a message to everyone on the list:
CLOSSON-L(a)rootsweb.com
Hope this will help! I am posting this message for you.
Bob Coto
"James T. Closson" wrote:
> I have seen your Web Site and am impressed with it. Good job! I see
> that you are related to the Clossons? My branch of the family came from
> Blue Hill, Hancock, County, Maine. My great grandfather was George
> Washington Closson (1820-1878). I think his wife was Louisa Chatto.
> Does any of this link with you folks?
>
> Jim
>
> --
> James T. Closson, Ph.D.
> Paragon Business Group, Inc.
> 11537 Hemlock Drive, Suite 202
> Overland Park, KS 66210-2443
> (913) 451-1928 (Phone)
> (913) 451-1514 (Fax)
Hi Mark,
We can sure help you out with the CLOSSON side. Maybe you will give us a
run down of the SPENCER side?
Josiah CLOSSON was born 1655. In 1675, he was a soldier in King Philip's
war from Woburn, Mass. It is speculated that perhaps he met Captain
Timothy WILLIAMSON during the war and moved to Marshfield, Mass. Here, 10
Mar 1678/79, he married Timothy and Mary (HOWLAND) WILLIAMSON's daughter,
Mary, born 7 Jul, 1654, at Marshfield, Mass. Two of his eight children
were born here.
(i) Martha CLOSSON b. 1 Dec 1679
(ii) Timothy CLOSSON b. 5 Jan 1680/81
Josiah soon left Marshfield. In about 1682, he followed Col. Benjamin
CHURCH, the leader of the Plymouth forces in King Philip's War, who had
started a settlement at Little Compton, RI. It was here that the other six
children were born.
(iii) Nehemiah b. 1 Feb 1683
(iv) Mary b. 5 Jan 1687
(v) Caleb b. 16 Apr 1688
(vi) Hannah b. 31 Aug 1690
(vii) Nathan b. 3 Feb 1694
(viii) Josiah Jr. b. 16 Jan 1697
Josiah died intestate at the age of 44 years (13 Feb 1698/99). He had
amassed 37 Acres of land in that part of Little Compton called Coxet, near
the Rhode Island/Massachusetts boundary.
In 1721, Caleb b. 16 Apr 1688, was living in Rochester, Plymouth Co., Mass.
where he sold his one-seventh share of Little Compton for 16 pounds, 14
shillings (worth about $30 today). It is believed that he moved around
going as far as Boston and the returning west to Washington County at
Charlestown which was part of Westerly, RI. As there is no record of his
children, the early records of children not assigned to other sons of
Josiah have been assigned to him and Anna ( ____).
Zilpha b. Abt. 1710
Ichabod b. 25 Feb 1714
Bathsheba b. Abt. 1713-14
Charity b. Abt. 1715-16
Abigail b. Abt. 1718
Timothy b. Abt. 1722
About 1730, Zilpha CLOSSON married Michael SPENCER son of Robert and
Theodosia (WHALEY) Spencer. Zilpha's sister, Abigail, married Michael
after Zilpha's death. The children are as you list them. We have little on
the children of Michael Spencer, except for Caleb SPENCER. Perhaps you
will be able to tell us about the descendants of Theophilus, Zilpha's son.
The above information is taken from The Josiah Closson Family by William
Gideon Closson. 1952.
Hope this has helped some.
Regards,
Bob
Robert James
74 Downer Crescent
Wasaga Beach, Ontario
Canada
L0L 2P0
(705) 429-6768
robjame(a)georgian.net
I have very little on my Clossons but it's a family tale.
My ancestor Michael Spencer was born 27 Dec 1709 in East Greenwich, RI to
Robert Spencer (1674-1748) and Theodosia Whaley. This Spencer line goes back
to Michael Spencer who came from England with or shortly after Winthrop's
Fleet in the 1630s.
Michael first married Zilpha Closson sometime before 1732. They had a son
Theophilus Spencer (1732-1793). He later married Zilpha's sister Abigail
(?-1758) in 1739. Michael and Abigail had 12 children: Robert, Nathaniel,
Michael, Nathan, Joanna, Caleb, Samuel, James, Theodosia, Lydia, Sarah, and
Mary. It would appear Abigail took fulfilled the role of her sister and
raised my ancestor through this line, Theophilus. Theophilus married in 1757
and later moved to Pawling, Dutchess Co, NY.
Much of this information has come to me from material published by the
Spencer Genealogical and Historical Society (SHGS) in the form of Flora
Clark's "The Four Brothers" series.
Does anyone know more about Zilpha and Abigail?
Thanks
Mark Daly
markd(a)city-net.com
http://www.city-net.com/~markd/
Thanks for all the responses.
What I have on Richard Clawson is: Richard came to America from Scotland
with four brothers about 1770. They were Richard, Josiah, Peter,
Alexander, and James.(Source "PI on the floor")
Richard Clawson settled in Frankstown, near Hollisdaysburg, in Blair
County, Pa.
According to Caldwells history of Indiana County, A Richard and Josiah
and a Benjamin Closson paid taxes in the early 1800's. In Stewarts
History of Indiana County my 3 great grandfather Benjamin Clawson moved
from Huntingdon County a son of Richard and Sarah(Mitchell) Clawson at
the close of the eighteenth Century.
I am guessing at this but it could be possible Richard and Josiah are
brothers and Benjamin being the son of Richard. Again no actual proof
that this Richard is Ben's father.
Most of everyone that is reaching this family has this same information.
Thanks everyone for your input.
Bev
1. DAR - Thanks to Dick Hudson for posting the information on Daughters of the
American Revolution. I am going through the DAR list and will post
connections
to those Clossons mentioned. It is a slow process but I have found that
information that I had was augmented/verified by the data on those sheets. In
some cases I was able to add spouses to Clossons that were in the data
base. I
would encourage others to post information such as Dick did with the DAR, as
Adette did with the Ohio tombstone and as Will did with the famous Clossons
(Bev: did you notice the Clawsons in there?)
2. CLAWSON - Thanks, Bev, for your posting and to Dick for his great
response.
The term "lurking on mail lists" has been used to describe those who do not
post information, but read the messages of others to see what fits. I think
the term "lurking" is bad, because there is nothing wrong with it - I,
personally, lurk on several mail lists. However, if you have specific
questions or comments, please do not hesitate to post to
CLOSSON-L(a)rootsweb.com . As the saying goes, "There are no stupid
questions ...". Here are a couple of CLAWSON sites that might lead to
something else:
http://www.thelorax.com/~pjohnson/lines.htmhttp://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/2509/benclaw.html
Here is a www site that is great for all surnames: http://www.gendex.com/
Once the page opens go to <<Gendex www genealogical index>>, then to <<Access
the index>>, and then <<Go to surname index>> and enter the surname that you
are interested in.
3. DEER ISLE, MAINE - I have obtained a copy of Vital Records of Deer Isle,
Maine - Prior to 1867. There are a number of Clossons listed here as a number
of Clossons, including the Nathan Closson family, settled in this area.
(Nathan3, Nehemiah2, Josiah1). I have found much additional information
that I
didn't have in this listing of births, deaths and marriages prior to 1867. In
the spirit of sharing resources, I will be happy to do look ups for any
Clossons or other surnames. I encourage you to post these queries to the list
as others are interested.
4. GRANDFATHER TALES - Thanks for the positive feedback on my posting of the
Grandfather Tales. I will post more as I get them typed into my database.
5. CALEB CLOSSON - Caleb5 Closson b.1758 ( Caleb4, Ichabod3, Caleb2,
Josiah1 )
came to Canada as a spy during the American Revolution. He and his family
settled in the Eastern Ontario region along the St Lawrence River. Caleb is
listed as a UEL (United Empire Loyalist) and yet this would seem to be
contradictory to his spying. Can any of our history buffs help me out - I am
weak in this area? Some events in Caleb's life are also mentioned in the book
"Buckskin Pimpernel, the Exploits of Justus Sherwood, Loyalist Spy" by Mary
Beacock Fryer, however I haven't obtained a copy of this book yet.
6. Reminder: If you wish to go back over previous Closson List posting you
can. Go to :
(http://newsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl).
Type in the name of your list (you can leave off the -L). Click the submit
button or hit your ENTER/RETURN key.
Follow the search examples shown on the next screen.
Once again, I apologize for going on and on - it's the teacher in me. Sorry.
Regards,
Bob
Robert James
74 Downer Crescent
Wasaga Beach, Ontario
Canada
L0L 2P0
(705) 429-6768
robjame(a)georgian.net
Bev Clawson wrote:
>
> I have been lurking on the list for a while. I have not seen any
> reference made to my family.
>
> Here is my history.
>
> > 1. Name: Beverly Clawson
Beverly,
I am also researching the Clawson/Clason name. Where did your ancestors
live? There were quite a few Clawsons in Connecticut starting in the
1600s. How confident are you that Richard (1760) was an immigrant? You
mentioned that his father may have been named John. I show a John b.
1725 in my outline. I don't have all my papers in front of me just now,
so I don't know if he had a son called Richard, but the dates would
work.
Hey, have you heard about Elizabeth Clawson who was tried as a witch in
1692 in Stamford, CT? If this John could be your ancestor, then she
would be, too.
Joy