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Nancy,
I am receiving your messages through _CLINGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com_
(mailto:CLINGEN-L@rootsweb.com) , but I don't think they are coming through
_clingan(a)yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:clingan@yahoogroups.com) . There are members of the
yahoo group who may not be receiving your messages. If you would wish to and
are not at present sending though yahoo, I'm sure all would appreciate getting
your messages.
Good luck on the move to Texas. Hope you enjoy your new home.
Robert Clingan
Laurie
I need any information on the Mitcheltree connections that anyone happens to
have. I am trying to put everything together. Have spent over 10 years in
and out of Ireland sorting through connections and believe I can finally do a
fairly decent genealogy given the shortcomings of Irish records.
For those who care......there are almost no early (pre 1800) marriage
records, no census records, few burial records in Ireland. Everything revolved
around the churches and the Presbyterian churches mostly do not have early records.
They normally begin about 1620 which is not helpful to our research. There
are, however, unusual Irish records that can be helpful.
Short history (so far) of Clingans in Ireland.
They were mostly on the land working for others until the 1830's when land
was made available to Irish tenants. Of Scottish origins they likely came into
Ireland around 1600-1640 and first settled around Co. Down and Co. Tyrone.
They have since spread into other northern counties. Not satisfied with the
restrictions upon Presbyterians they began the migration into North America
around 1740 and continued to arrive for 100 years.
In Scotland, many were Covenanters, and in Ireland there are records of
arrests and executions for their part in agrarian reforms (terrorists).
In America, so many have contributed to Clingan research of various lines.
There is now a DNA match which brings the origins of many of these lines
together. I have concentrated on matching the Clingans in the Pittsburgh area as
combining their history and the Mitcheltrees has given the clues to find them in
Ireland. Those connections to Ireland have been substantiated with the DNA
tests. I encourage any of you with males of the Clingan surname to consider
asking them to do the DNA tests.
I am trying to sort my material in a systematic fashion but am in the middle
of a major lifestyle change and move from Los Angeles to Northern Texas. We
are due to leave our home of 40 yrs. at the end of February. Will, thus, try
to get as much out as I can before then.
Nancy
Laurie
He will find most of the information either in LDS films before he goes or in
the PRONI (Public Record Office of Northern Ireland).
I recently spent another month there and have made the connections. I don't
have the material sorted but if he wants to visit some of the
areas...Fermanagh along the Co. Tyrone border - Co. Tyrone (no houses or homes still exist but
they were in the Clogher valley) Co. Down - around Grey Abbey. They were
also in Ayrshire in Scotland very early (1600's)
Watch for my postings as I get things sorted.
Nancy
It will depend on which Clingan line he wants and the time period.
Laurie, I believe our Cingans came from the Donegal, Farangagh area in
northern Irelan. One or two of them married into the Mitcheltree family
before they came to the states. I wish your relative well in his search.
Wally
----- Original Message -----
From: "laurie" <gingeris15(a)yahoo.com>
To: <CLINGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:02 AM
Subject: Ireland Clingans
> Hello to all,
>
> I just received word that my cousin will be visiting Ireland and several
other regions.
>
> He would like to visit areas that our Clingan ancestors are from and
possibly do some research while he is on his extensive vacation.
>
> Any suggestions of where to direct him in his travels to find Clingan
Ancestors?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Laurie (Clingan), Mitchell
>
>
>
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Hello to all,
I just received word that my cousin will be visiting Ireland and several other regions.
He would like to visit areas that our Clingan ancestors are from and possibly do some research while he is on his extensive vacation.
Any suggestions of where to direct him in his travels to find Clingan Ancestors?
Thank you,
Laurie (Clingan), Mitchell
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