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Hi everyone,
I know these lists are not supposed to be for virus alerts, however I
thought this was important. I received a virus attachment called
"s3msong.MP3.pif" in response to the last post I made to the list. My
Virus Scan software caught it and I was able to delete the attachment
before any infection. I have temporarily removed the subscriber from the
list so this attachment won't be sent back from that subscriber's computer
to anyone else who posts to the list.
DO NOT OPEN attachments until you verify with the sender that one was sent.
Below is a good explanation of the latest virus. It is reprinted with
permission of the writer, George W. Durman
From: VIRUS-DISCUSSION-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [VIRUS] FROM VIRUS-DISCUSSION LISTOWNER -
EVERYONE PLEASE READ
OK, let's see if I can explain this so that everyone understands how
these latest viruses, trojans, and worms work.
Let's start with the very latest, W32/Badtrans@MM, also seen as
W32/Badtrans@M. Here are other aliases that have been found:
Backdoor-NK.svr ,
BadTrans (F-Secure),
I-Worm.Badtrans (AVP),
W32.Badtrans.13312@mm (NAV).
There are several things about this one that need to be discussed, how
it is spread, and the danger to the infected user's computer.
1) W32/Badtrans@MM is received as a REAL attachment (more about "real"
vs. "inline" attachments later). It comes as an actual file attachment,
which is downloaded to a user's computer into whatever directory is set
up for such downloads. For Eudora, Pegasus, and other "stand alone"
email programs, this will be something like "Downloads", "Attachments",
etc. For MS Outlook and MS Outlook Express, I'm not sure where a
separate attached file is placed.
2) A user's computer is NOT infected UNTIL he/she clicks on the
attachment and "runs" it, that is, executes it so that it does whatever
it's supposed to do.
3) Once a user clicks the attachment, it installs itself on to the
user's computer. It then does two things:
a) It propagates itself so that every time the system is rebooted, it
mails itself to the sender of EVERY UNREAD EMAIL in the user's MS
Outlook FOLDERS. Notice that I say "folders", not "folder". That means
that if you filter incoming email into various created folders, this
trojan/virus searches all of them, not just the IN BOX.
HERE'S THE REALLY DIRTY PART: The virus looks through all those unread
emails; it finds the originator of them (FROM:) and REPLIES to the
person who sent the original email. BUT, it also attaches a copy of the
infected file and mails it along with the "reply". Thus, if John Doe
sends an email to a person, or to a Mailing List, when that email ends
up on another user's email program, and that
other user is infected and hasn't read John's email, John receives a
reply containing a copy of the virus as a separate clickable file.
HERE'S WHY USERS KEEP INSISTING THAT VIRUSES CAN BE SPREAD BY ROOTSWEB
MAILING LISTS, AND WHY THEY THINK THE ATTACHMENT CAME THROUGH A MAILING
LIST: Let me give an example -
John Doe sends a post to the SMITH-L Mailing List. John Doe's system is
NOT infected. Every one of the 2,000+ users of the SMITH-L Mailing List
receives a copy of John's email. One of these users, let's call him Bill
Smith, has the W32/Badtrans@MM virus on his system.
Now, Bill has a copy of John's email in his Outlook program. He doesn't
read it right away. He reboots his computer and, when Windows restarts,
the virus looks through Bill's email in Outlook. It sends a reply to the
sender of EVERY unread email, AND attaches a copy of itself as a
separate attachment. It copies all the original headers, including those
that show the email came through SMITH-L(a)rootsweb.com.
Then John, the original sender of the email, receives a "reply" to his
email, from Bill. John looks at the email and sees that it is a reply to
his original post. He also sees SMITH-L(a)rootsweb.com in several of the
headers. As far as he's concerned, he has received a normal reply back
through the Mailing List.
If John is a "newbie", one of two things happen:
I) He sees an attached file, with a message something like,
"Take a look to the attachment." He says to himself, "This Bill Smith is
answering my original post, AND he has sent me an attachment which is
probably a file having something to do with information on my query." He
clicks the attachment; thus ANOTHER SMITH-L Mailing List user is
infected.
or
II) He is savvy enough to know NOT to open the attachment, BUT from the
looks of the "reply" it appears that it came back to him via the Mailing
List.
He screams and curses, and says, "I knew it! I don't care what the
Listowners and the folks at Rootsweb say, these virus attachments ARE
coming through the Mailing List!"
He then posts angry posts to all the Mailing Lists to which he
subscribes, calling the Listowners and Rootsweb people liars. He thus
starts another round of
uninformed posts about how attachments CAN be passed through Mailing
Lists, and about how viruses CAN also be passed through the Lists.
In short, this virus/trojan tricks recipients of infected email into
thinking the virus is being propagated via a Mailing List. NOT SO !!!!!
b) The other thing this virus/trojan does is this: Once running, the
trojan attempts to mail the victim's IP Address to the author. Once this
information is obtained, the author can connect to the infected system
via the Internet and steal personal information such as usernames, and
passwords. In addition, the trojan also contains a keylogger program
which is capable of capturing other vital information such as credit
card and bank account numbers and passwords.
4) THIS IS WHY EVERY COMPUTER USER MUST HAVE A FIREWALL ON HIS/HER
COMPUTER !!!!! It doesn't matter whether you are using a dialup modem, a
cable modem, DSL, or whatever, you NEED a firewall. A firewall is
nothing more than a small utility that prevents malicious people from
entering your system through a "back door". Once such a person has your
IP address, he/she can connect to your computer any time your modem is
connected, which is 24/7 for everyone but those using a dialup modem. Of
course, a dialup modem is accessible only when you are actually
"online".
5) So, PLEASE, let's stop this latest round of blaming Rootsweb Mailing
Lists for allowing attachments, and for propagating viruses, trojans,
worms, etc. I know that in the future, as new users subscribe, many of
them will come to the same erroneous conclusions and start the thread
all over again. They should be politely, but firmly, advised of the true
situation.
6) VERY IMPORTANT POINT: Some users insist that email from Mailing Lists
always comes as attachments. Not so! SOME email programs, such as MS
Outlook/ Outlook Express and AOL, convert ALL List email into
attachments. This is one of the most serious problems with such
programs, and causes users to think that they are receiving "real"
attachments.
"REAL" attachments are FILES that are outside the body of an email, and
come along with the email as a "rider". Other so-called "attachments"
are those that contain the actual text from the body of an email. This
is especially true for those subscribers to the Digest Mode of Lists. MS
Outlook and AOL extract the body text and put it into "attachments".
To the poster who was worried about "viruses going around on the
GEN-NEWBIE Mailing List": I hope you can see from the above that the
viruses are being sent from infected users'computers, users who happen
to be receiving email from the List.
This point MUST be made: If any user receives an infected email, or an
infected attached file, and it appears to have come through a Mailing
List, IT DID NOT. Blame the problems, and resulting confusion, on a
virus-writer who is a little smarter than the average gomer.
To end, here's a list of the KNOWN file-names that the W32/Badtrans@MM
virus/trojan uses:
Card.pif
docs.scr
fun.pif
hamster.ZIP.scr
Humor.TXT.pif
images.pif
New_Napster_Site.DOC.scr
news_doc.scr
Me_nude.AVI.pif
Pics.ZIP.scr
README.TXT.pif
s3msong.MP3.pif
searchURL.scr
SETUP.pif
Sorry_about_yesterday.DOC.pif
YOU_are_FAT!.TXT.pif
So far, I have received virus attachments with the names
"README.TXT.pif" and
"Sorry_about-yesterday.DOC.pif".
Anyone reading this has my permission to copy it and repost to
individuals or other Mailing Lists.
SgtGeorge
George W. Durman
VIRUS-DISCUSSION Listowner
Endorsed by Kevin P Dodson
Endorsed by Tracy - Listowner, Eng-Yorkshire
______________________________________________
Does anybody have any other information on this Samuel CLINARD?
1890 CLINARD, SAMUEL -C- Robertson County TN 001 Ed 228 TN 1890
Veterans Schedule
1891 CLINARD, SAMUEL Robertson County TN NPL Dist. 16 -male
Voters- TN 1891 Voters List
Rick
1888 Rock Pond GMD
Name Age Occupation
Clinard, J.E. 23 Farmer
Clinard, J.S. 22 Farmer
1888 Fowlstown GMD
Name Age Occupation
Clinard, Dave 39 Farmer
Clinard, J.F. 33 Farmer
Clinard, Jacob 65 Farmer
Clinard, Ben 28 Farmer
Clinard, John 26 Farmer
Clinard, Isaac 22 Farmer
Joseph CLINARD
1820 Robertson Co., TN census
one male under 10, one male 16 to 26, one female 16 to 26
1830 Robertson Co., TN census
one male 5 to 10, three males 10 to 15, one male 30 to 40,
one female under 5, one female 5 to 10, one female 30 to 40
also, one male age 80 to 90
1850 Robertson Co., TN census
Joseph CLINARD age 53 born NC
Sally age 54 born VA
Willie age 17 born TN
Joseph CLINARD, administrator of Phillip CLINARD, deceased.
Robertson County, TN., Will Book 6, page 492.
Payments made January 26, 1829 to:
A. JUSTICE
Christian ALLEN
R. CHEATHAM
E. SUMNER
Benjamin RAWLS
C. BIDWELL
John HUTCHINSON
Solomon PAYNE for bank in Robertson County
John DECKER? for whiskey
W.T. HOLLIS
Tennessee CLINARD Land Grants, all Robertson County
CLINARD, Joseph 1825 5 acres, General TN Grant, bk AA, p285 #23677
Joseph 1826 50 acres, Mountain Dist, bk5, p32, #3576
Joseph 1830 30 acres, Mountain Dist, bk 12, p422 #10087
Lawrence 1826 50 acres, Mountain Dist, bk 5, p 29, #3513
Lawrence 1829 56 acres, Mountain Dist, bk 11, p863, #9618
In the early days of my research, I made a trip to the Detroit Library
and found this biography, in a book on North Carolina. I do not know
the name of the book, however.
John W. Clinard
Every community possesses a few men whose natural talents and
business ability enable them to forge ahead of their associates and
assume a commanding position in the conduct of affairs, and High Point
is no exception to this rule. Here one of these leaders is John W.
Clinard, owner of the Clinard Milling Company, and an official or
stockholder in many of the leading concerns of the city and county, a
man whose integrity is proverbial, and whose executive acumen is
unquestioned.
John W. Clinard is a son of William Martin and Victoria (Thomas)
Clinard, grandson of John Wilson and Elizabeth (Clodfelter) Clinard, and
of Hon. John C. Thomas, the latter having served three successive terms
as state senator of North Carolina from Davidson County, and married
Crissy Sink, and great-grandson of Jacob Clinard, a native of Germany,
and the progenitor of his name in the United States. Upon coming to
this country Jacob Clinard became the owner of a farm near Bethany,
Davidson County. John Wilson Clinard was born in Davidson County,
served in the Confederate army as a private, and following the close of
the war between the states, resumed his farming that his military
service had interrupted, but without the help of the slaves he had
previously owned. A detachment of General Sherman's army camped on the
Clinard farm, and Mrs. Clinard was compelled to cook for the troops all
night long.
William Martin Clinard was but about seven years old when the war
closed, and he had the misfortune to lose his father when he was still a
small boy. He had but little opportunity to get an education, as he had
to begin earning his own living when not much more than a child in order
to assist his mother. All his life he was a farmer of Davidson County,
and was a quiet, unassuming man, who never said an ill word against any
one, and was never heard to use any profanity. He never took a drink of
liquor, nor did he use tobacco. In every way he lived up to the highest
ideals of the Methodist Episcopal Church, South, of which he was a
member from early youth. He and his wife had three children: Minnie,
who became Mrs. W. L. Hedgecock; John W., and Jacob Robey.
John W. Clinard, whose name heads this review, was born August 27,
1880, on his father's farm in Davidson County. He attended Oak Ridge
Institute, and was graduated from its commercial department at the age
of eighteen years. Following that he entered the employ of the Union
Furniture Company, continuing with it until February, 1902, when he
founded the first veneer plant at High Point, under the name of the High
Point Veneer & Panel Company, his father and his uncle, J. A. Clinard,
being associated with him in this venture. Mr. Clinard has continued
with this concern and is now its vice president. In 1906, with the same
associates, he organized the High Point Safe & Table Company, and
continued the operation until 1917, when the plant was destroyed by
fire. Mr. Clinard built, in 1902, an excelsior plant which he conducted
in connection with the High Point Veneer & Panel Company, and later
added the manufacture of excelsior pads to the business, and in 1918
these interests were consolidated under the name of the High Point Pad &
Excelsior Company, which is still in operation, and of which Mr. Clinard
is president. In 1920 Mr. Clinard branched out still further and
founded the Clinard Milling Company, manufacturing flour and feed, of
which he is the sole owner. In 1926 he purchased and rebuilt the Ardale
Milling Company at Denton, North Carolina, of which he is sole owner. H
is director of the Hood System Industrial Bank, and owns stock in many
enterprises, for he believes in encouraging local business development
along both commercial and industrial lines. A very earnest Methodist,
for twenty-one years he has taught a class in the Sunday School, and is
now its superintendent. He belongs to the Local Chamber of Commerce and
the Country Club, and enjoys associations and work with his fellow
members. On May 3, 1927, he was elected city councilman of High Point
by over 1,000 majority.
In 1903, Mr. Clinard married Nannie Hale of Asheboro, North
Carolina, and they have five children: Margaret, Ruth, John W. Jr.,
Gilbert Hale, and Mary Allen. During the World War, it is needless to
say, Mr. Clinard was one of the most active participants in all of the
local war work, and accomplished much for the cause, in which he was in
thorough sympathy. He is a sound and dependable business man, a
splendid executive of broad vision and admirable foresight, capable of
handling large affairs and of securing hearty co-operation from his
associates.
Hello,
I'm am looking for the father of Molly Clinard. This
information I have on her is as follows:
Name: Molly CLINARD
Birth: BEF. 1849 in Adams, Robertson County, TN
Burial: Red River Baptist Church Cemetery, Adams, TN
Marriage 1 James COBB b: BEF. 1845 in Adams, Robertson
County, TN
Children
Sally Belle Mammy COBB b: 21 FEB 1871 in Ashland
City, Cheatham County, TN
Then I found this in Goodspeed's History of Tennessee
was originally published in 1886.
John Clinard, cooper and farmer, of Springfield, was
born December 5, 1825, in Robertson County, Tenn., and
is the son of John and Mary (Cameron) Clinard. The
father was of German origin, born about 1795 in the
State of North Carolina, and was a farmer by
occupation. He was in the battle of New Orleans under
Gen. Jackson and the Indian wars of that campaign. He
died in Davidson County in 1849. The mother was of
Scotch descent and was born a few years previous to
1800. She died about 1848. Our subject was reared at
home and received his education in the schools of the
county. When about eighteen years of age, he commenced
working at the cooper's trade. April 21, 1847 he
married Melinda C. Hollis, daughter of James S. and
Judah Hollis. Mrs. Clinard is a native of Tennessee,
born July 23, 1831. Mr. and Mrs. Clinard are the
parents of an interesting family of eight children:
James H., Malinda J., Gilford N., Jefferson D., Robert
L., Archibald W., Mollie and John W. After marriage
Mr. Clinard commenced the cooper business on his own
responsibility. In 1856 he came to Springfield and
erected a shop and has ever since carried on his trade
in connection with farming and is the owner of 220
acres of good land. He is highly esteemed as an honest
man and worthy citizen. He believes the old maxim that
"a rolling stone gathers no moss," and has never been
over forty miles away from his birthplace and has
never lived outside of his county. In politics he is a
Democrat. His wife is a member of the Cumberland
Presbyterian Church.
The dates, places and names would be right. Does
anyone know more of this family?
Thanks,
Sheila Messer
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Looking for information on Joseph or Samuel Clinard that settled in TN.
In a telephone conversation with my uncle, Winton D. Clinard, youngest
son of Irvin and Winnie Clinard . . . Winton stated, "My great-grandfather,
Davis Clinard, SR had two brothers, Joseph and Samuel." He elaborated that
his father, Irvin, as well as other family members spoke of the brothers and
told many family stories.
One story: Davis and one brother traveled by wagon from NC to TN to
see the other brother. Davis had a shepherd dog that followed along with the
wagon. They stayed and visited the brother for a few days before traveling
back to NC and prior to their departure--the shepherd dog came up missing.
When they arrived back in NC, Davis' shepherd dog was at home waiting for
them.
Apparently, this is the first for many of us to learn that Davis
Clinard, SR had two brother's: Joseph and Samuel and any information you may
have to this relationship would be greatly appreciated.
Of course, my great-great grandfather, Davis, SR moved from NC to the
state of IN and then on to settle and remain in MI.
Sincerely,
Patricia (Clinard) Molter
Kate,
I think there may be some differences in the census records you found
and the actual census itself. The library here has all the NC census on
microfilm. I have copies of most and there are some differences. Here is
what I found, (note there are only three households with a male the age
Davis would have been: Jacob, Daniel, and Phillip). On the 1830 census
this Jacob is gone...where??
Rick
m-10 m10-16 m16-18 m16-26 m26-45 m+45 f-10 f10-16 f16-26 f26-45 f+45
Pg. 340
Clinard, Jacob 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0
Pg. 286
Clinard, Jacob ... 0/0/0/0/1/0/0/0/0/2/1/0/0 (kept your numbers, I don't
have a copy of this page)
Pg. 302
Cliner, Peter ... 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1
Clinard, Jacob... 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1
Pg. 304
Clinard, Charles ... 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0
Clinard, Phillip ... 3 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0
Pg. 310
Clinard, Daniel... 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1
Pg. 314
Clinard, Jacob ...0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 1
Pg. 320
Clinard, Jacob ... 2 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 1 0
Clinard, Andrew ..0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0
Clinard, Daniel ...2 0 0 0 1 0 2 1 0 1 0
I'm forwarding a response I got from the list-master of the AMerican
REVolutionary HESSIAN list, John Merz. I've corresponded with him about
others Hessian soldiers in my own family lines ... and he is an excellent
researcher of Hessian immigrants during the pre- and Rev. periods. Kate
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Merz" <hessian(a)cgocable.net>
To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [HESSIANS] Clinard, William
>
> Hello, Kate,
> I looked at this a bit sceptic, but there was indeed a Hessian
> soldier by the name of Wilhelm KLEINERT, born 1750/51
> in Helsa, serving with the Erbprinz Regiment, 2. Comp., he is
> first mentioned on the Muster Roll in May 1777, according
> to a one-line entry in HETRINA III. Nothing is stated about his
> further servive, nor is there a discharge or desertion date.
> Cheers,
> John
>
> From: K . B. Cook <k.b.cook(a)worldnet.att.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 3:36 PM
> >
> > William Clinard, a German, served in the British 10th Regt. of Foot (N.
> Lincolnshire) during the AWI. He was stationed @ Ireland, leaving for
> American Spring/1767, landing @ Nova Scotia. After short time ordered to
> Boston (1768). April/1775, the 10th advanced on Concord & Lexington.
> June/1775 the 10th @ Bunker Hill. Nov/1776 the 10th @ Ft. Washington &
Ft.
> Lee. Sept/1777 @ Chad's Ford on to Concord, Ashtown. Sept/1777 @
> Germantown. Sept/1777 the 10th attacked @ Billings Pointe of Jersey shore
> of Delaware River across from Chester. Clinard transferred to Hessians
> May/1777 (per Philadelphia Muster Rolls Bk. J 28, Mar/1778, Pub. Rec'ds
> office, London in WO12, vol2750, NGSQ#71, June/1983).
> Thanks
> >
> > Be well & God bless,
> > Kate Beaugrand Cook
> > Minnesota
>
>
>
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