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Re: Mary Jane Clift b1843 AR/d 1881 TX -m. Bunn, then Adams
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Surnames: Clift, Collie
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Lois, that was just a wild idea! I'm sorry. I was just feeling frustrated. The Mary Clift that married John W. Collie was born in 1838, according to the marriage records. As you know, the ages weren't always accurate for a number of reasons. I need to find her on a census or other record. There are just so many Clifts, that I haven't been able to find this Mary yet. I was happy to find your info on Mary Jane b 1843. BTW, my husband is a descendant of Joseph Clift b 1828 and Sarah Collie, so I'm working on both Clifts and Collies from Hot Spring Co., AR.
15 years, 10 months
Re: Mary Jane Clift b1843 AR/d 1881 TX -m. Bunn, then Adams
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Surnames: Clift, Adams
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Mary Jane Clift (I have family "notes" not research, that show this Mary Jane... She married Eli Bowen(family has name as BUNN ) on Dec 17, 1859 in TX. They had 2 children. Wm Wright Bunn, May 30, 1861, Rusk TX (he died about 4 yrs), and Sallie Ann Bunn born Feb 29, 1866, Rusk TX. (Sallie marrie Lee Watts and 3 children, then divorced and married ? Runyon...) If Mary Jane married John Collie she would have been 14 yrs old in 1857 in AR, before "running" off to TX. Possible I suppose. Help me prove/disprove this theory!!!
Family notes say that Eli Bunn was a stage "driver" but in the census it shows him (Eli Bowen) as a stage "agent." I think they corrupted the spelling of the name. I did also find Eli A. Bowen in the 1850 Anderson Co. TX census (possibly the father/mother siblings to Mary Jane's Eli.
How are you related to this family?
Lois
15 years, 10 months
Re: Mary Jane Clift b1843 AR/d 1881 TX -m. Bunn, then Adams
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I, too, thought that Mary Jane Clift b 1843 to Wm W. & Mary A. Winters Clift was the one who married John W. Collie in 1857 in Hot Spring Co., AR. But after finding Wm W. on the 1860 Anderson Co., TX census next door to a Jane, 17, the wife of Eli Bowen, I now think that this is Mary Jane and that she married Eli Bowen/Bunn & Wm C. Adams as Lois says. Now, who IS the Mary Clift b 1838 that married John W. Collie? Is it possible that our little Mary Jane lied about her age, married him in 1857, then ran off to Texas? Help!
15 years, 10 months
Re: CLIFT family of Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
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Here are my Clift/Cliffts
Descendants of
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1-Joseph CLIFT-[839]
+Margaret TAYLOR-[840] , m: 11 Nov 1760, Dawley Magna Shropshire
|-----2-John CLIFT-[652] b: 1769, d: Bef 1836, bur: 15 Dec 1836, Codsal
| Stafford, England
| +Amelia-[772] , m: Abt 1792
| |-----3-Samuel CLIFT-[773] c: 14 Jul 1793, Codsall Stafford, England
| |-----3-William CLIFT-[774] c: 25 Feb 1795
| | +Ann-[776] , m: Bef 1819
| |-----3-James CLIFT-[775] c: 29 Nov 1798
| +Mathilda-[653] b: 1771, d: 9 Sep 1837, m: After1798 bef 1804
| |-----3-George CLIFFT-[639] b: 1804, Codsall Stafford, England, c: 8 Jan
| | 1804, Codsall Wood, Stafford, England, d: 23 Nov 1880, Codsall
| | Stafford, England
| | +Hannah POWELL-[640] b: 1804, Codsall Wood Stafford, England, d: 4
| | Jul 1891, Codsal Stafford, England, par: Thomas POWELL-[660] and
| | Lucy CLEATON-[661]
| | |-----4-George CLIFFT-[637] b: 1824, Codsall Stafford, England, c:
| | | 15 Mar 1824, Codsal Stafford, England, d: 1917
| | | +Mary PARTRIDGE-[650] b: 1829, Kingswinford Staffordshire, c:
| | | 1 Nov 1829, Kingswinford, Stafford, England, m: 23 Mar
| | | 1856, Tettenhall Staffordshire, par: Unknown and
| | | Elizabeth-[846]
| | | |-----5-James CLIFFT-[456] b: 1861, Oaken Lawn Stafford,
| | | | England
| | | | +Amy R. TYLER-[457] b: 1864, Keyworth, Nottingham,
| | | | England, c: 16 May 1864, Keyworth, Nottingham,
| | | | England, m: 28 Feb 1884, Keyworth, Nottingham,
| | | | England, par: James TYLER-[514] and Jane PIKE-[516]
| | | | |-----6-Arthur William CLIFFT-[435] b: 1887, d: 1953
| | | | | +Alice HOPKINS-[572] b: 19 Jun 1890, Helpston
| | | | | Northamptonshire, m: 27 Jun 1914, Melton
| | | | | Mowbray, par: John William HOPKINS-[420] and
| | | | | Mary KNIGHT-[437]
| | | | | |-----7-Joyce CLIFFT-[423] b: 27 Sep 1918,
| | | | | | Leicester, d: 2nd April 1990, Leicester,
| | | | | | bur: 9th April 1990, Leicester
| | | | | | +Ernest Thomas PREECE-[422] b: 3 Jul 1920,
| | | | | | Hereford, d: 17 Jun 1992, Leicester, bur:
| | | | | | 17 Jun 1992, Leicester, m: 20 Aug 1949,
| | | | | | Leicester, par: Thomas William
| | | | | | PREECE-[428] and Rose (SMITH)-[452]
| | | | | | |-----8-Mary Elizabeth PREECE-[419]
| | | | | | | +Stephen Boyd COX-[418] , par:
| | | | | | | William Henry COX-[722] and Joan
| | | | | | | Mary QUIGLEY-[723]
| | | | | | | |-----9-David William COX-[446]
| | | | | | | | +Unknown
| | | | | | | | |-----10-Jack BEEKEN-[481]
| | | | | | | |-----9-Jennifer Mary COX-[421]
| | | | | | | +Unknown
| | | | | | | |-----10-Elisha COX-[863]
| | | | | | |-----8-Margaret PREECE-[424] b: Aug
| | | | | | | 24th1954, Leicester, c: 2nd Sept
| | | | | | | 1954, Leicester General Hospital
| | | | | | | Leicester, d: 1954, Leicester, bur:
| | | | | | | 1954, Leicester
| | | | | | |-----8-Richard William PREECE-[478]
| | | | | | +Judith Ann GREEN-[426]
| | | | | | |-----9-Ben PREECE-[425]
| | | | | |-----7-Florence Mary CLIFFT-[438]
| | | | | | +Ray TILSON-[441] d: 1999, m: Leicester
| | | | | |-----7-Marjorie CLIFFT-[439]
| | | | | | +John HILLYARD-[442]
| | | | | | |-----8-Michael HILLYARD-[443]
| | | | | | +Susan PRICE-[444]
| | | | | | |-----9-Jamie HILLYARD-[445]
| | | | | | |-----9-Sarah HILLYARD-[447]
| | | | | |-----7-Brenda CLIFFT-[440]
| | | | | +George BROMLEY-[448]
| | | | | |-----8-Alison BROMLEY-[449]
| | | | | |-----8-Helen BROMLEY-[450]
| | | | | |-----8-Robert BROMLEY-[451]
| | | | |-----6-George CLIFFT-[458] b: 1885
| | | | | +Susan GREEN-[459] b: Eyam Derbyshire
| | | | |-----6-Florence CLIFFT-[460] b: 1900
| | | | | +Donald MANSFIELD-[714]
| | | | | |-----7-Barbara MANSFIELD-[715]
| | | | | |-----7-David MANSFIELD-[716]
| | | | |-----6-Headley Partridge CLIFFT-[513] b: 1892
| | | | +Nancy-[712]
| | | | |-----7-Janet CLIFF-[713]
| | | |-----5-George CLIFFT-[654] b: 1857, Codsall, Stafford,
| | | | England
| | | | +Sarah-[848] b: 1857, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
| | | |-----5-Henry CLIFFT-[655] b: 1859, Tettenhall Staffordshire
| | | |-----5-Eliza CLIFFT-[656] b: 1864, Codsall Stafford,
| | | | England
| | | | +Charles Henry WAKEFIELD-[849]
| | | |-----5-Samuel CLIFFT-[657] b: 1865, Codsall Stafford,
| | | | England
| | | | +Dinah-[674]
| | | | |-----6-George CLIFFT-[673] b: 1899
| | | |-----5-William CLIFFT-[658] b: 1868, Codsall Stafford,
| | | | England
| | | |-----5-Thomas John CLIFFT-[659] b: 1870, Codsall Wood
| | | | Stafford, England
| | | +Emma BRINDLEY-[651] b: 1838, Twickenham London, m: Mar 1875,
| | | Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
| | | |-----5-Henry BRINDLEY (Stepson)-[836] b: 1868
| | | |-----5-Sarah CLIFFT/BRINDLEY?-[837] b: 1873
| | | |-----5-Emma BRINDLEY (Stepdaughter)-[838] b: 1867
| | |-----4-William CLIFFT-[662] b: 1826, Oaken Lanes Stafford,
| | | England
| | | +Unknown
| | |-----4-Eliza CLIFFT-[663] b: 1828, Oaken Stafford, England
| | |-----4-Charles CLIFFT-[664] b: 1830, Codsal Stafford, England
| | |-----4-Martha CLIFFT-[665] b: 1832, Oaken Lawn Stafford, England
| | |-----4-Susannah CLIFFT-[666] b: 1834, Oaken Stafford, England
| | |-----4-Hannah CLIFFT-[667] b: 1835
| | |-----4-Jemima CLIFFT-[668] b: 1837, Oaken Lanes Stafford, England
| | |-----4-Mary CLIFFT-[669] b: 1839
| | |-----4-Selina CLIFFT-[670] b: 1843, Codsal Stafford, England
| |-----3-George CLIFT-[845] c: 1 Jan 1803, d: 1803
|-----2-Mary CLIFT-[841] c: 14 Jun 1761, Dawley Magna Shropshire
|-----2-Phoebe CLIFT-[842] c: 9 Jan 1763, Dawley Magna Shropshire
|-----2-Joseph CLIFT-[843] c: 11 Apr 1776, Dawley Magna Shropshire
|-----2-William CLIFT-[844] c: 24 Dec 1780, Dawley Magna Shropshire
15 years, 11 months
Re: CLIFT families of Finchfield, Tettenhall, Staffordshire, England
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These are my Clift/Clifft family
Descendants of
--------------
1-Joseph CLIFT-[839]
+Margaret TAYLOR-[840] , m: 11 Nov 1760, Dawley Magna Shropshire
|-----2-John CLIFT-[652] b: 1769, d: Bef 1836, bur: 15 Dec 1836, Codsal
| Stafford, England
| +Amelia-[772] , m: Abt 1792
| |-----3-Samuel CLIFT-[773] c: 14 Jul 1793, Codsall Stafford, England
| |-----3-William CLIFT-[774] c: 25 Feb 1795
| | +Ann-[776] , m: Bef 1819
| |-----3-James CLIFT-[775] c: 29 Nov 1798
| +Mathilda-[653] b: 1771, d: 9 Sep 1837, m: After1798 bef 1804
| |-----3-George CLIFFT-[639] b: 1804, Codsall Stafford, England, c: 8 Jan
| | 1804, Codsall Wood, Stafford, England, d: 23 Nov 1880, Codsall
| | Stafford, England
| | +Hannah POWELL-[640] b: 1804, Codsall Wood Stafford, England, d: 4
| | Jul 1891, Codsal Stafford, England, par: Thomas POWELL-[660] and
| | Lucy CLEATON-[661]
| | |-----4-George CLIFFT-[637] b: 1824, Codsall Stafford, England, c:
| | | 15 Mar 1824, Codsal Stafford, England, d: 1917
| | | +Mary PARTRIDGE-[650] b: 1829, Kingswinford Staffordshire, c:
| | | 1 Nov 1829, Kingswinford, Stafford, England, m: 23 Mar
| | | 1856, Tettenhall Staffordshire, par: Unknown and
| | | Elizabeth-[846]
| | | |-----5-James CLIFFT-[456] b: 1861, Oaken Lawn Stafford,
| | | | England
| | | | +Amy R. TYLER-[457] b: 1864, Keyworth, Nottingham,
| | | | England, c: 16 May 1864, Keyworth, Nottingham,
| | | | England, m: 28 Feb 1884, Keyworth, Nottingham,
| | | | England, par: James TYLER-[514] and Jane PIKE-[516]
| | | | |-----6-Arthur William CLIFFT-[435] b: 1887, d: 1953
| | | | | +Alice HOPKINS-[572] b: 19 Jun 1890, Helpston
| | | | | Northamptonshire, m: 27 Jun 1914, Melton
| | | | | Mowbray, par: John William HOPKINS-[420] and
| | | | | Mary KNIGHT-[437]
| | | | | |-----7-Joyce CLIFFT-[423] b: 27 Sep 1918,
| | | | | | Leicester, d: 2nd April 1990, Leicester,
| | | | | | bur: 9th April 1990, Leicester
| | | | | | +Ernest Thomas PREECE-[422] b: 3 Jul 1920,
| | | | | | Hereford, d: 17 Jun 1992, Leicester, bur:
| | | | | | 17 Jun 1992, Leicester, m: 20 Aug 1949,
| | | | | | Leicester, par: Thomas William
| | | | | | PREECE-[428] and Rose (SMITH)-[452]
| | | | | | |-----8-Mary Elizabeth PREECE-[419]
| | | | | | | +Stephen Boyd COX-[418] , par:
| | | | | | | William Henry COX-[722] and Joan
| | | | | | | Mary QUIGLEY-[723]
| | | | | | | |-----9-David William COX-[446]
| | | | | | | | +Unknown
| | | | | | | | |-----10-Jack BEEKEN-[481]
| | | | | | | |-----9-Jennifer Mary COX-[421]
| | | | | | | +Unknown
| | | | | | | |-----10-Elisha COX-[863]
| | | | | | |-----8-Margaret PREECE-[424] b: Aug
| | | | | | | 24th1954, Leicester, c: 2nd Sept
| | | | | | | 1954, Leicester General Hospital
| | | | | | | Leicester, d: 1954, Leicester, bur:
| | | | | | | 1954, Leicester
| | | | | | |-----8-Richard William PREECE-[478]
| | | | | | +Judith Ann GREEN-[426]
| | | | | | |-----9-Ben PREECE-[425]
| | | | | |-----7-Florence Mary CLIFFT-[438]
| | | | | | +Ray TILSON-[441] d: 1999, m: Leicester
| | | | | |-----7-Marjorie CLIFFT-[439]
| | | | | | +John HILLYARD-[442]
| | | | | | |-----8-Michael HILLYARD-[443]
| | | | | | +Susan PRICE-[444]
| | | | | | |-----9-Jamie HILLYARD-[445]
| | | | | | |-----9-Sarah HILLYARD-[447]
| | | | | |-----7-Brenda CLIFFT-[440]
| | | | | +George BROMLEY-[448]
| | | | | |-----8-Alison BROMLEY-[449]
| | | | | |-----8-Helen BROMLEY-[450]
| | | | | |-----8-Robert BROMLEY-[451]
| | | | |-----6-George CLIFFT-[458] b: 1885
| | | | | +Susan GREEN-[459] b: Eyam Derbyshire
| | | | |-----6-Florence CLIFFT-[460] b: 1900
| | | | | +Donald MANSFIELD-[714]
| | | | | |-----7-Barbara MANSFIELD-[715]
| | | | | |-----7-David MANSFIELD-[716]
| | | | |-----6-Headley Partridge CLIFFT-[513] b: 1892
| | | | +Nancy-[712]
| | | | |-----7-Janet CLIFF-[713]
| | | |-----5-George CLIFFT-[654] b: 1857, Codsall, Stafford,
| | | | England
| | | | +Sarah-[848] b: 1857, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
| | | |-----5-Henry CLIFFT-[655] b: 1859, Tettenhall Staffordshire
| | | |-----5-Eliza CLIFFT-[656] b: 1864, Codsall Stafford,
| | | | England
| | | | +Charles Henry WAKEFIELD-[849]
| | | |-----5-Samuel CLIFFT-[657] b: 1865, Codsall Stafford,
| | | | England
| | | | +Dinah-[674]
| | | | |-----6-George CLIFFT-[673] b: 1899
| | | |-----5-William CLIFFT-[658] b: 1868, Codsall Stafford,
| | | | England
| | | |-----5-Thomas John CLIFFT-[659] b: 1870, Codsall Wood
| | | | Stafford, England
| | | +Emma BRINDLEY-[651] b: 1838, Twickenham London, m: Mar 1875,
| | | Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
| | | |-----5-Henry BRINDLEY (Stepson)-[836] b: 1868
| | | |-----5-Sarah CLIFFT/BRINDLEY?-[837] b: 1873
| | | |-----5-Emma BRINDLEY (Stepdaughter)-[838] b: 1867
| | |-----4-William CLIFFT-[662] b: 1826, Oaken Lanes Stafford,
| | | England
| | | +Unknown
| | |-----4-Eliza CLIFFT-[663] b: 1828, Oaken Stafford, England
| | |-----4-Charles CLIFFT-[664] b: 1830, Codsal Stafford, England
| | |-----4-Martha CLIFFT-[665] b: 1832, Oaken Lawn Stafford, England
| | |-----4-Susannah CLIFFT-[666] b: 1834, Oaken Stafford, England
| | |-----4-Hannah CLIFFT-[667] b: 1835
| | |-----4-Jemima CLIFFT-[668] b: 1837, Oaken Lanes Stafford, England
| | |-----4-Mary CLIFFT-[669] b: 1839
| | |-----4-Selina CLIFFT-[670] b: 1843, Codsal Stafford, England
| |-----3-George CLIFT-[845] c: 1 Jan 1803, d: 1803
|-----2-Mary CLIFT-[841] c: 14 Jun 1761, Dawley Magna Shropshire
|-----2-Phoebe CLIFT-[842] c: 9 Jan 1763, Dawley Magna Shropshire
|-----2-Joseph CLIFT-[843] c: 11 Apr 1776, Dawley Magna Shropshire
|-----2-William CLIFT-[844] c: 24 Dec 1780, Dawley Magna Shropshire
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