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My grandfather was Harlin Ellis Engand and his uncles and aunts were Cliburns that lived in Allen Co. in 1926. Their names were Rev. L.O., Sheriff W.E., H. W., J.M., Bernice, J.C., and Moye. This was taken from a newspaper article dated 04-22-1926. Rev. L. O. preached my grandfather's funeral, but I have not been able to find any information about them. If anyone know anything please get in touch with me at oldridgepurple(a)yahoo.com. Thanks.
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This is certainly possible. A number of Cleburnes moved Ireland from Westmoreland Co, England in the 17th Century. They lived in Southern Ireland for some time and many of those descendants came to America, three of whom (at least) fought in the Civil War as officers for both the North and the South. (Adm. Dr. Chistopher Cleburne, USN; Maj. Gen. Patrick Ronayane Cleburne, CSA, and Cpt. James Cleburne, CSA (Patrick's brother). Both Patrick and James were killed in battle and Dr. Christopher Cleburne survived the war.
I have some information the Irish Branch at "www.claybornfamilyresearch.com" See if anything matches your line.
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I thought that was very important news worth sharing with the rest of the Clayborn Researchers.
I am a 13th generation descendant of Edward Cleiborne of the "Globe". My line descended through "John of Old Henrico", "John Sr. of Dale Parish" and then through his son Thomas, and then through his son William....or so I thought.
In December I took a Y-Chromosome DNA Test to confirm my ancestor's male lineage. The results were devastating and profound at the same time.
Not only do the results NOT match the Cliborns of Old Henrico (sharing only 12 out of 25 markers), they do not match the family of Col. William either.
Upon Closer examination it has been revealed that a common and reasonable error has been overlooked.
As it turns out, My ancestor was adopted by William Cliborn in about 1850.
William Cliborn moved to Giles County. His wife and child mysteriously disappear after the 1840 census. By 1850 he is living with a Christina Croy, and has two children in the house: Lemuel (often mistaken for Samuel), and Sarah. The assumption was that these children were his as they later appear in their own houses with the Clayborn Surname. However, the first clue comes in the Census Records:
The 1850 Census for Giles lists the household in the following manner:
William Cliborn
Christina Croy
Lemuel
Sarah.
It should have been realized by many researchers early on that the children in this case are "known" to have the surname of the adult preceeding them, which is this case is "Croy". Had they been Cliborns on this census, the results would have appeared thusly:
William Cliborn
Lemuel
Sarah
Christina Croy.
It is an understandable mistake to have been made given the children's later adoption of the Clayborn name. Both Lemuel and Sarah are married as Clayborns.
Further proof of this adoption is that in the 1840 census William is listed as living with his wife and son (who is older than Lemuel). Also in Giles County is this Christina Croy as the head of her own household and with several children of her own already, at least one of whom is the right age to be Lemuel.
And then there is the DNA evidence. I urge everyone who is descended from William Cliborn and Christina Croy to take the DNA test, and also descendants of Thomas Cliborn who married Louisa.
After learning of this news I have redirected all of my efforts to finding out more about this Christina Croy. There are many questions. It is unclear whether or not she is a widow and Croy is her married name, or if she divorced and reverted back to her maiden name of Croy, or whether there is something else entirely going on. There is too little information to even make an assumption at this point.
I have also been unable to find a Croy DNA sample to compare my results against. I have been told that my results are a close-match to Wilburn of VA, however that raises even more questions if true as to date I have no Wilburns in my tree of over 20,000 and have never come across records that indicate a relationship with any Wilburns in the area.
If you are a descendant of Thomas Cliborn or his son William Cliborn, please contact the Claiborne Clan's Alex Waldrop to find out how you may participate in the DNA Study. If you have further questions regarding this line or this new information, please contact me.
-Johnathan Clayborn