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Hello W'tons, espec of NC, and moreso, of New Bern NC,
One of 'our' greatest goals is to establish the identity of the W'ton
emigrant who established the W'ton line(s) in the US. We have been working
on this diligently since much before I got involved in the late 1990s.
One of the greatest clues we have had to assist us in this quest is the
1722 Will of Robert Widdrington(e) / Witherington, a will which has been the
tool of many, most particularly Mike Smolek, who conducted a thorough. yet
limited analysis, and came to some conclusions of value to our efforts.
After Mike's efforts, and various analyzes by others, including myself,
it was decided that we would consult with a UK researcher since many of the
early records were there, and we had little input from such knowledgeable
sources. Geoff Nicholson was selected and eventually paid asomething over
$600 for his written analysis. His conclusion was that the likely ancestor
(father) of Robert W'ton, of the 1722 will, was Samauel Widdrington, f/o
Robert, Wm, Barbara, Mary, & Grace Widdrington, w/appropriate birth dates.
The facts seemed to fit, although no (or few convincing) actual records
supported the emigration of Robt, or any of that line. You will find a
significant body of discussion re: Samuel in the Archives.
In the meantime, further research/ anaysis continued. Then in abt early
2000s (?), an article was published in the MD? . . . ., sugesting our
analysis of the wife of this Robt W'ton d1722 w/will, was in error - that
Robt's wife was not Elizabeth Dare, but was rather Elizabeth Cleverly.
And for all practical purposes, that is where it now lies.
It isn't like there are no other likely candidates - there are, but the
1722 will has so many excellent clues, it is so very tempting to rely upon
it to the exclusion of the other potential founders of the W'ton Lines.
Other researchers have located a number of candidates, including the
following (neither accurate nor complete, see the results of such Trees/
results in:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ (World Connect)
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp (Mormon site)
(see notes below)
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/widdrington.html [RootsWeb
Mailing List(s)]
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.widdrington
(RootsWeb Message Boards(s)]
Google.com (Search)
Ship Lists (3-5 prominent ones)
And MANY specialized websites, see Archives of our Lists for
these.
A pay site of potential great value is Ancestry.com - cost has escalated
to near $200/yr, but they do have the Goods - NO doubt about that. Many
Libraries arrange a full subscription for library visitors/ Researchers !
Search and email your finding to yourself ! ! ! Dont need to take notes in
Lib.
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Some of the other early W'tons you will run across while researching are:
(Witherington , Widdrington / Wetherington, and more than 40 more W'ton
Surname spellings)
Thomas 1600s ship Capt
Samuel 1600s UK father of 5
Edward & Nicholas, VA, 1600s
W'tons of PA & N Eng
You will find 12-15 more in our W'ton Rootswen Archives, see
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/widdrington.html
\where you can Leisurely Browse many messages w/interesting 'SUBJECT' Lines!
! !
Barbados early 1600s W'tons
etc., espec in the Mormon 'FamilySearch.com' Lists, most/all of which are
the subject of notes in our Archives.
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Below is a special case about which I want to make a few comments.
(Dry history discussion for the purpose of establishing the likelihood of
pre-1700 W'ton births. bw
There are a few analyses which make the point there are no pre 1700
W'ton birthis in New Bern NC (or possibly all of NC. But the Mormon site
suggests otherwise, see below. Many experienced researchers will immediately
make the point that such records are unreliable. Not to put too finr a point
on it, but if everything was reliably reported, it would all be done and we
could retire. Each set of records deserves only that credit due it. The
Mormon data is / can be the most reliable info when it is based upon
actually determined source date. IGI records can be this type. The Church
wants accurate data, and many of its researchers feel duty bound to produce
relable data. On the other hand, much data arrives via submissions from
others, some of which can appear in the 'Ancestral File' category. Other
variations also exist.
Addressing the below data, the Ancestral File listing for "Robert
WIDDRINGTON - Ancestral File Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1699 <New Bern,
Craven, North Carolina>," should be considered w/skepticism but the 2 IGI
Listings (doubtless, the same record) has a higher level of confidence. And
if Robt of the 1722 death & will is considered, he must have been born in
the late 1600s. While we tend to belive he was an immigrant, I do not
believe that has been established, so he could theoretically been born in
the US in the 1600s - OR, he could have fathered a child Robt b <1700 in the
US. Same goes for Thomas, Edwd, & Nicholas, and/or others. Robt died in
Calvert Co MD, abt 300 (less tha a week)miles from New Bern by protected sea
route, and many if not most New Bern arrivals were by sea for a seafaring
purpose. The mid 1600s were busy shipping periods, espec for Tobacco.
We have Henry Easterling (mentioned in the 1722 Robt Wton will)
established in 1658 in MD, d 1702. Although New Bern was not officially
founded until 1710, (named after Bern, Switzerland), it was the 2d city
founded in NC, no doubt for its seaport.
We know there was much activity in the New Bern area before its 1710
official founding. For example:
http://www.theinternetfoundation.org/RichardCollins/family/truhitte/Trewh...
. . . Lawyers Were operating in the Pimlico area before 1702, and Pamlico is
joined at the hip to New Bern:
Wills and other Documents of Bath County bear Levi Trewhitt's seal. On 7
July 1702 he was given title to 640 acres at Pamlico by George Montgomery.
On 24 Dec he sold this land to a Thomas Ivy for Valuable consideration. On
the 20th of June 1702 a Thomas Horsley gave Power of Attorney to his beloved
friend, Levi Trewhitt of Bath County, to handle or sell 640 acres. In 1705
Levi Trewhitt and Thomas Durham were ordered to pay a debt of 11 lbs. to
John Porter, Esq. In June 1706 Levi Trewhitt sold 330 acres on which he was
living to Thomas Sparrow. In Oct 1707 he deeded land on which he was living
to Edward Bromwich to settle a debt of 40 lbs of Sterling owed to a Giles
White, a Merchant of London. Levi may have borrowed this money to finance
his trip to America. On 29 Mar 1710 Ann Nelson, wife of John Nelson,
appointed Levi Trewhitt as her attorney to sell land to James Keith and
Richard Hill.
Queen Anne appointed her cousin to be Governor of the Carolinas. He in
turn appointed a William Glover to be his Deputy Governor replacing Colonel
Carey. Usually those appointed by the Rulers of England to rule in the New
Country were a friend or relative they wished to get rid of. This may have
been the case here.
Levi Trewhitt joined the ousted Carey and helped form a rebellion of
dissenters known as Carey's Rebellion of 1711. Levi was charged with
outfitting two vessels with cannon and attempting to overthrow the
Government of the Colony. Also for shelling Pollack's Plantation where
Governor Hyde, Queen Anne's cousin, had taken refuge.
Forced to flee, Trewhitt was captured along with Colonel Carey, George
Lumley, Challingham Ward and Edmond Porter. They were captured by Deputy
Governor Spotswood of Virginia. After being held in goal (jail) in
Williamsburg, the then Capital of Virginia, Levi Trewhitt was shipped, in
chains, to England on the EMS Reserve, Capt. Teate, Commander, to stand
trial for sedition.
There are a number of letters in the North Carolina Colonial Records where
Levi's name is spelled variously as 'Trewhitt' 'Pruchet' 'Treuit',
'Treuvit', 'Trewit' and 'Truwhitt' pertaining to this case.
Some state that Levi used his office to enrich himself. Governor Hyde, in a
letter to the Lord Proprietors dated 22 Aug 1711, stated, "It will be proven
the he, Levi Truehott, was famous for falsifying judgments and razing
records."
In England, after a delay of over a year, Levi's case was dismissed for lack
of evidence. He then returned to the 'Scence of his Crime' and settled on
the bank of the River Neuse, near New Bern and established a plantation. If
his so called crimes were true, why was Levi permitted to return and settle
here? Levi planted trees which, until the turn of the century, were known as
Trewhitt Oaks. There was also a road called Trewhitt Road out in the country
from New Bern.
http://www.lib.ecu.edu/ncc/historyfiction/document/vah/entire.html
In 1663, George Cathmaid came with his emigrants, and the growth began. Very
soon the Cape Fear settlements were securely established. The country
between Albemarle and Clarendon, on the Cape Fear River, was more slowly
occupied, the first settlers being the French Protestant refugees, who were
Calvinists from the colony on James River, Va., and who located in Pamlico,
near Bath, in 1690. In 1707, another colony of Huguenots settled on the
Neuse and Trent rivers, in Craven County.
.* But the earliest anthentic date of any settlement is 1662. In this year,
George Durant, who had probably been banished from Nansemond, in 1648, by
Governor Berkley, secured a grant from the Yeopim Indians of the tongue of
land on the north side of Albemarle Sound, between Little River and the
Perquimons. It is still known as “Durant's Neck.” He stands the oldest
landholder in Albemarle. Mr. Durant is said to have been a Scotch
Presbyterian elder, a godly man in his congregation.† Like a Scotchman, he
brought his Geneva Bible with him; and it is the first known to have been in
Carolina, and is preserved as a precious relic in the Historical Society of
North Carolina, at Chapel Hill.
In 1672, William Edmundson, an eminent English Quaker, was sent by
George Fox from Maryland, where they had recently arrived, to North
Carolina. Accompanied by two friends, after a distressing journey of two
days through a wilderness, with no English inhabitants, and no path-ways, he
reached “the place where we intended, viz., Henry Phillip's house, by
Albemarle River” (Perquimon's River, says Martin). “He and his wife had been
convinced of the truth in New England, and came here to live; and not having
seen a Friend for seven years before, they wept for joy to see us.” Phillips
and his wife were the only two Friends he mentions meeting in this brief
visit of three days. Warmly welcomed, he here celebrated the first public
rites of Christian worship in Carolina. Others now received the truth, and
were enrolled at this meeting on the Lord's day, and another held on the
morrow at Justice Tems. Many attended the services. They had little or no
religion, or sense of the proprieties of divine worship, for they sat
smoking their pipes; but the Word of God was with power on their hearts.
In the Fall of the same year, the distinguished George Fox made a preaching
tour of eighteen days in the Albemarle region; but Edmundson was not with
him, as Dr. Hawks states. Fox, the envoy of humanity, with the charming
simplicity of Solon and Thales, travelled with Governor Stevens on foot
through the ancient woods—the trees being blazed to mark the roads between
the sparse settlements,—or was guided by others in canoes towards “the north
part of Carolina,” and making a little entrance for the truth there and
among the Indians, returned to Bonner's (Bennet's) Creek, where the horses
had been left. The people were “tender and much desired after meetings,”
“and they were taken with the truth.” As he “opened many things concerning
the light and Spirit of God that is in every one,” his eloquence reached the
hearts of these hermits of the woods, and impressed them anew with the value
of their heritage of freedom of conscience, and of the truth of God with
benevolent reason to guide them in the happy paths of hospitality, virtue
and piety, that are still trodden by their children in the old North State.
As this venerable apostle of humanity and equality was closing his exile on
earth to go home, his vivid memory recalled such episodes of the forest
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glades, and his last words were, “Mind poor Friends in America.” How
beautiful his brief epitaph by his peer, William Penn, “Many sons have done
virtuously in this day, but, dear George, thou excellest them all!”
In 1676, Edmundson “was moved of the Lord to go to Carolina” on a second
visit. His short journal of the trip ends thus: “I had several precious
meetings in that colony, and several turned to the Lord. People were tender
and loving, and there was no room for the priests, for Friends were finely
settled, and I left things well among them.” While in 1672, neither of these
preachers met all the Quakers in the province, it seems certain they were
not numerous. Considerable growth had occurred before Edmundson's return. In
the Shaftesbury papers, in the British Public Record Office, is a
remonstrance, sent to the Lords Proprietors, and signed by twenty-one
Quakers, some of whom were prominent men, members of the Assembly. Most of
them had been living in Carolina since 1663 and 1664, and they were
vindicating themselves as “a separated people, who are in scorn called
Quakers,” but had “stood single from all seditious actions in Albemarle,” in
1677. They and others may have entered Carolina as Friends. In later years,
Thomas Story, an English Quaker, and Governor Archdale, also one, increased
greatly the influence of the body. Henderson Walker, who was at different
times member, clerk and President of council, Attorney-General and acting
Governor, says, in a letter to the Bishop of London in 1703, “We have been
settled near fifty years in this place” (Carolina), “and, I may justly say,
most part of twenty-one years, on my own knowledge, without priest or altar,
and before that time, according to all that appears to me, much worse.
George Fox, some years ago, came into these parts, and, by strange
infatuations, did infuse the Quaker principles into some small number of
people, which did and hath continued to grow ever since very numerous, by
reason of their yearly sending in men to encourage and to exhort them to
their wicked principles.” They fortunately continued to grow, and formed the
nucleus around which gathered mainly friends of liberty and foes to a
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Church establishment. In these early days Dissenters outnumbered
Episcopalians. There are not many Churchmen recorded as coming to the
communion of the Lord's Supper—even Colonel Pollock was sluggish about it.
In 1708, Rev. James Adams angrily wrote that the Quakers, “though not the
seventh part of the inhabitants,” in conjunction with the Presbyterians,
controlled the government, and absolutely turned out patriots, because they
were Churchmen, that “shoemakers and other mechanics should be appointed in
their room, merely because they are Quaker preachers and notorious
blasphemers of the Church!” Dr. Hawks estimates that, in 1710, the Quakers
composed about one-half of the Albemarle settlement, and that the whole
population of the province was not seven thousand. From these Quakers has
come valuable Presbyterian stock.
Martin (I., p. 155) says that before Edmundson left, he established a
quarterly meeting in Berkley for proper government and discipline. Of the
eight Quarterly Meetings, which constitute the present North Carolina Yearly
Meeting, four were established, as follows: in 1689, 1759, 1780 and 1790.
The others arose in this century. At present the Quakers in this State
number about 5,000, and are most valuable citizens. In colonial days they
were not as quiet as their principles required, and doubtless troublous
times brought insincere accessions to their ranks. They were not perfect,
neither were the Churchmen or others who roundly abused them. At first their
strength lay chiefly in Perquimons and Pasquotank; but they multiplied and
spread. When Judge Iredell, as a young man, came from England to North
Carolina, in 1768, he was commended by his relative, Henry E. McCulloch, to
a prominent and substantial Quaker merchant, named Williams, in New Bern,
“who will supply you with what money you want, and show you every civility.”*
General Character.
Of the settlers for the first hundred years, it may be said, there were many
highly educated citizens scattered throughout . . . .
http://www.lib.ecu.edu/ncc/historyfiction/document/vah/entire.html
Obviously, persons were born before 1700 in the area, and many were
citizens of England, see above discussion. A Widdrington birth bef 1700 is
not unlikely.
bw
Robert WIDDRINGTON
B: < 1699
<New Bern, Craven, North Carolina>
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asphttp://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/pedigree_view.asp?recid=4207588...
2 Henry EASTERLING B1658
, Calvert, Maryland D1708
M: Abt 1658
1 Elizabeth EASTERLING B: 3 Jan 1703
Port Republic, Calvert Co., Maryland
Family Robert WIDDRINGTON B: < 1699
<New Bern, Craven, North Carolina>
3 Family Elizabeth VINES B: < 1675
, , Maryland
12:41 AM 5/23/2005
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http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
You searched for: Robert Widdrington [refine search]
Birth/Christening, 1695 - 1705, North Carolina, United States
Exact Spelling: Off
Matches: All Sources - 3
Ancestral File
1. Robert WIDDRINGTON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1699 <New Bern, Craven, North Carolina>
Matches: Ancestral File - 1
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International Genealogical Index - North America
2. ROBERT WIDDRINGTON - International Genealogical Index / NA
Gender: Male Birth: < 1703> <New Bern, Craven, North Carolina>
3. ROBERT WIDDRINGTON - International Genealogical Index / NA
Gender: Male Birth: < 1703> <New Bern, Craven, North Carolina>
Matches: International Genealogical Index/North America - 2
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http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/WIDDRINGTON/2002-07/1026086443
Robert WIDDRINGTON
B: < 1699
<New Bern, Craven, North Carolina>
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asphttp://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/pedigree_view.asp?recid=4207588...
2 Henry EASTERLING B1658
, Calvert, Maryland D1708
M: Abt 1658
1 Elizabeth EASTERLING B: 3 Jan 1703
Port Republic, Calvert Co., Maryland
Family Robert WIDDRINGTON B: < 1699
<New Bern, Craven, North Carolina>
3 Family Elizabeth VINES B: < 1675
, , Maryland
12:41 AM 5/23/2005
====================
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
You searched for: Robert Widdrington [refine search]
Birth/Christening, 1695 - 1705, North Carolina, United States
Exact Spelling: Off
Matches: All Sources - 3
Ancestral File
1. Robert WIDDRINGTON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1699 <New Bern, Craven, North Carolina>
Matches: Ancestral File - 1
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International Genealogical Index - North America
2. ROBERT WIDDRINGTON - International Genealogical Index / NA
Gender: Male Birth: < 1703> <New Bern, Craven, North Carolina>
3. ROBERT WIDDRINGTON - International Genealogical Index / NA
Gender: Male Birth: < 1703> <New Bern, Craven, North Carolina>
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/WIDDRINGTON/2002-07/1026086443
Matches: International Genealogical Index/North America - 2
Barry Wetherington
Looks very good Sara! (Do you have the Link/ website for this info) I
think there are some data I haven't previously seen. I also think most of
thse Worthingtons are Witheringtons: (Looks like someone else also thought
so):
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(Fm Below. bw)
Worthington, Robert Robert Hamilton 169
(Witherington)
Book 7 - April 1765 - April 1769
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Do you have the Link/ website for this info ! ! ! I'd like to look
for other names (Remember Dobbs Co was broken into 2 or 3 counties).
OLD DOBBS COUNTY
JOHNSTON/DOBBS/LENOIR COUNTIES GRANTOR INDEX
BOOK 11 Jan 1777 - April 1779The Registers Office was closed from May l775
to January l777 due to the absence of governmental authority incident to the
beginning of the Revolution.
In 1758, Dobbs County was formed from the eastern portion of Johnston
County. (Old) Dobbs included today's Wayne, Greene, Lenoir and small
portions of several other counties. Transcribed from the Grantor Index and
checked against the Grantee Index
by Martha Mewborn Marble, 1377 Independence Ave., S. E., Washington, D. C.
http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/granteebooks/bk11.htm ? ? ?
Worthington, Daniel N. Worthington 330
Herring, Stephen Nathan Worthington 529 (520)
GRANTOR/GRANTEE INDEX OF JOHNSTON, DOBBS, AND LENOIR COUNTIES
http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/granteebooks/grantee.htm
Book 1 November 1746 - April 1750
Book 2 April 1750 - April 1754
Book 3 April 1754 - April 1755
Book 4 April 1756 - 1757
Book 5 April 1757-1758
Book 6 April 1758-1765
Book 7 April 1765-1769
Book 8 April 1769-1771
Book 9 April 1771-1773
Book 10 April 1773- May 1775
Book 11 Jan. 1777- April 1779
Book 12 April 1779 - April 1784
Barry
Barry Wetherington
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sara Whitford" <sarawhitford(a)earthlink.net>
To: <WITHERINGTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:09 PM
Subject: [Witherington] W'Ton & Carruthers Land Transactions - Dobbs Co.
Hi All...
Was gathering this information for my own notes tonight, and although it
may have already been posted, I figured I better send it to the list just to
be on the safe side.
Hope all is well with all of you, dear cousins!
Sara Whitford
Craven County, North Carolina
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Dobbs Co. Records
24 March 1778 #307(1). 125 acres to DANIEL WETHERINGTON, north side of
Neuse River ADJ: CLERLY (Probably 'Cleverly' bw) WETHERINGTN, JOHN JONES,
JOHN PHILLIPS, RICHARD JONES, SPENCER CALDWELL.
ENTRIES FROM GRANTOR/GRANTEE INDEX FOR DOBBS
* Does not appear in Grantee Index
** Does not appear in Grantor Index
Old Dobbs County
BOOK 3 - Apr 1754 - Apr 1755
FROM TO PAGE #
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Stringer, Francis John Worthington 182
Worthington, John Simon Bright 127
BOOK 1 - November 1746 - April 1750
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Worthington, Solomon Joseph Carruthers 146
BOOK 3 - Apr 1754 - Apr 1755
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Carruthers, Joseph Thomas Box 510
BOOK 4 - 1756 - 1757
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Carruthers, Joseph John Worthington 416
Carruthers, Joseph & wife Thomas Ramsey 26 *
Book 5 - April 1757 - April 1758
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Worthington, Robert Robert Hamilton 169
(Witherington)
Book 7 - April 1765 - April 1769
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McKinney, William Stephen Worthington 236 **
BOOK 9 - April 1771 - April 1773
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McKinney, William Stephen Worthington 236 *
Worthington, William Thomas Bond 183
Worthington, John Nathan Worthington 213
BOOK 10 - April l773 to May l775
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Herring, Stephen Nathan Worthington 529 (520)
Worthington, Daniel N. Worthington 330
BOOK 11 - January 1777 - April 1779
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Phillips, John Daniel Worthington 134
> Worthington, John Joseph Carruthers 379
> Worthington, Nathan Mathew (Matthew) Moseley 216
> Wooters, John Solomon Worthington 515
> BOOK 12 - April l779 to April l784
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ingram, Jacob Solomon Worthington 133
> Johnston, Elijah Robert Worthington 277
> Rice, John Nathan Worthington 141
> Turner, Alexander Robert Worthington 46
> Worthington, Solomon John Wooters 67
> Worthington, Nathan Reuben Turner 411
> BOOK 13 - April 1784 to April 1789 (1)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Carruthers, Joseph Nathl. (Nathaniel) Worthington 173
> Worthington, Daniel Frederick Jones 532
> BOOK 14 - April 1789 - April 1792 (1)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Worthington, Sol'n (Solomon) John Moore (Morris) 36
> BOOK 15 - End of Dobbs Co. - 1st book of Lenoir Co - 1792, 1793
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Blackledge, Rd. Robert Werthington 139
> Pate, William Robt. Worthington 499
> Worthington, Nath'n. Elizabeth Parrott 519
JOHNSTON/DOBBS/LENOIR COUNTIES GRANTOR INDEX BOOK 22 - 1746-CA-1810
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Hi Barry and list,
My CLEVERLY's ....
Eliza C b 1819, Horton, Wiltshire. Dau of Isaac C born abt 1770 and Ann HISCOCK.
Eliza CLEVERLY married Robert BESSANT - born 1815 of Bishops Canning, Wilts,Eng.
Their son, George, b 1842, in Carlton, Tasmania. He married Rebecca EVANS b abt 1849.
their son, William married Ada LUTTRELL and their son William Arthur was my great grandfather.
Lynne in Tas.Aus
Below is a very interesting message that we received from Martha Rice in
late 2003, and, particularly in view of the many new researching members, I
don't think we were able to assimilate even half of the relevant information
provided by Martha and/or the resultant conversation. There is a plethora of
potentially breakthrough information below, including right to the final
paragraphs of this msg.
Barry
===============
2003 interesting msg:
Connect 2 Rice Lines & Carruthers Wton Cleverly Dare Binkes Womack Loudoun
Co
Below is the first msg to Binkes-L. Ths Website for Binks-L is:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/b/binkes.html
Barry List Host
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Wetherington" < cbarrfly(a)comcast.net>
To: < CARRUTHERS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 4:17 AM
Subject: [Carruthers] Connect 2 Rice Lines & Carruthers Wton Cleverly Dare
Binkes Womack Loudoun Co
Hi Martha,
Yours is the kind & level of research I lust to attain, and for which
our Lists Archives are so beautifully designed. Still, it is difficult, at
best, to, as you have done so well, tie disparate facts together leading to
genealogical
leaps. But best of all from my selfish view is that you did it in a Line in
which I have a vital interest.
At the risk of providing too much irrelevant information, causing
confusion rather than enlightenment, I will paste some other potentially
relevant excerpts below. Thus, someone with an interest will have access to
abt 90% of the newer relevant info in this single msg.
. . .
Barry Wetherington
In addition to the surnames above, I suggest that the Hodges (Francis
copied) & the Smiths (Walter Smith 1st Atty Gen MD, Harold Smith
researching) also have an interest in this development. I should also
definitely include Womack & Tuncliff in the interesting Surnames involved,
AWA we've also corroborated relationships to the Bangs, Somervilles,
Parrotts, Parkers, Cleverlys, Clagetts, Bromes, Mackalls, Brights, Battsons,
Easterlings and others that fit into this Tree at various points. The
various Archives contain some quite extensive Trees. The Surname Archives
are all accessible at:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/carruthers.htmlhttp://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/d/dare.htmlhttp://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/r/rice.html
Note Above - just change the 1st initial & the surname in these Links to
visit ANY Archive!
**************************************
Martha's msg to me (bw):
Greetings,
Recently I have been researching in MD in hopes of finding my husband's
line. Unfortunately that has not happened however, a note from Barry
Wetherington to the Rice-L list the other evening caught my attention. I had
recently found the 1722 will of Robert Widdringtone of Christ Church Parish
in Calvert County, MD mentioned by Barry. His message mentioned Sarah
Carruthers 1728 md Benjamin Rice. I knew there was a 1770 indenture in
Loudoun County, VA between James Carruthers and Samuel Cox which mentioned
James Rice d. 1740. After searching the archives of both Carruthers-L and
Witherington-L, I noted the names Cleverly and Gideon were used in these
families. I noted the following info contained in Barry's message to
Witherington-L 26 Jul 2000 captioned
"Witherington MD Hall of Records Annapolis Info Table:"
"Lib 15c 1694 p163 4 Dec 1694 Came Nath Dare by Robt Carucille his buroerat
...
answr - granted
p164 Dec 6 1694 Inv exh ...
5 Feb 1694 N Dare by Robt Carville /Carvile ? .. Answer .. To the Libel suit
agst him by Evan...? & his wife Eliz ... also exh of Thms Binkes late of
Calv Co
p181 26 Mar 1695 Elrisco v Na Dare/// This case being ... answer ... parties
appeared & Evan Brice? W/... objections ... agst Nathaniel Dare ... Terms of
Agreement ... promise to ... refrain ... having failed ... promise ... case
to
be ctd.
16 May 1696 Jury Verdict agst Nathaniel Dare favor of Evan Rico?/Rice? (Many
numbers) 5998# (lbs?) Tobacco (1/2 page discussion)"
I did not find the mention of the 1746 will of Benjamin Rice, Beaufort
County, NC contained in any of the archives and believe it may add something
to the researchers of all of these line. This will was filed with the North
Carolina Office of the Secretary of State rather than at the county level.
Abstracts of these wills can be found in "Abstracts of North Carolina Wills
Compiled From Original and recorded wills in the Office of the Secretary of
State" by Brian Grimes, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1975.
The abstract follows:
Rice, Benjamin, Beaufort County (I believe this is 'our' Benj Rice.
September 12, 1745, June Court, 1746. Sons: Zebulon, Benjamin, James, Even,
Claverly, Ephrim, Hezekiah, Gideon. Wife and Executrix: Mary. Witnesses:
James Humes, Nathaniel Draper, Thomas Willia. Clerk of the Court: John
Forbes.
I certainly hope we will be able to make a connection between the Loudoun
County and MD lines. It will take a lot of digging, but there does appear to
be a connection. This may be hoping for too much, however there was an Evan
Rice who was transported to MD in 1677. This info is contained in Liber 15,
| Folio 430 in the MD Land patents. I would appreciate knowing the contents
of this file if anyone has access to the files in Annapolis. Evan is also
mentioned in the "Passengers and Immigration Lists Index" as having
immigrated from Barbados between 1663-1679.
Martha Rice
PS:
Barry,
The info below may possibly have some connection to your MD lines. Bill
Rice of Texas (. . .) has worked for many years on his line in Loudoun
County. I suggest you contact him. I certainly hope this will be a break
for both of you!
Loudoun County Deed Book G, pp. 307-310
Indenture made 4th/5th September 1770 between James Carruthers of parish
Cameron in County Loudoun of one part and Samuel Cox of same county..
Witnessth for sum One hundred and thirty pounds current money of
Virginia..by deeds of lease and release..sold parcel of land
bounded..beginning at three Sycamores at mouth of Pine Hill branch of Goose
Creek on South side of the creek..nigh the line of Jacob
Lasswell..containing 247 acres which parcel of land was granted by
Proprietor of Northern Neck of Virginia to James Rice formerly of county
Stafford by his deed recorded in Proprietors office (1730) in Liber C page
101..and James Rice (d. 1740) sold said tract of land to James Carruthers
who made no disposition of same in his lifetime after his death said land
descended to and became the Estate of James Carruthers party to these
presents as his Eldest Son and Heir. .
Presence G. Johnson
Robert Hamilton, John Miller
James Carruthers
At a court held 10th September 1770.. Indenture and receipt endorsed
acknowledged..ordered to be recorded.
Martha
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From: < Ricesouthern(a)aol.com>
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Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: [Carruthers] Witherington/Carruthers/Rice/Dare
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|
| Source: Family Tree Maker CD #509 - Genealogical Records: NC Wills,
| 1665-1900
| ABSTRACT OF NORTH CAROLINA WILLS, 1690 - 1760 p. 16
| BANGS, Abiah, widow of Jonathan Craven County June 3, 1755.
| Cousin: Elizabeth HOBBS ("my lot in Newbern Town").
| Daughter: Betty BANGS.
| Sisters: Elizabeth and Mary CARRUTHERS.
| Brothers: John CARRUTHERS, William CARRUTHERS.
| Executors: William CARRUTHERS (brother), Robert JONES, "oturney at law."
| Witnesses: William CREEKMORE, Rubin HAMMONTREE, William CARRUTHERS, Sr.
| No probate.
|
| BANGS, Jonathan Craven Co Oct 7 1743 June 15 1744 Wife Abiah
| Daughter: Betty BANGS, Sister: Thankfull COVELL.
| Executors: John CARRUTHERS(uncle), Abiah BANGS(wife).
| Witnesses: Francis BRINKLEY, Jno. CARRUTHERS, Jo. Rd. HICKSON.
| Clerk of the Court: W. ROUTLEDGE.
| Coat of Arms on seal
We've also worked w/Harold Smith of the "Aletha Dare 1697 +Walter Smith
1684 - 1748" link you identify below. We've also corroborated some
relationships to the Somervilles, Parrotts, Parkers, Cleverlys, Clagetts,
Bromes, Mackalls, Battsons, Easterlings and others that fit into your Tree
at various points, altho I don't immediately spot the Gen link here.
Obviously, 'our' "Mary Widdrington 1658 +Nathaniel Dare" is in the range to
be related to 'your' "Nathaniel Dare 1678 - 1741 +Mary Cleverly 1675 -
1748", but I digress and speculate here. We have had deep and | enthusiastic
discissions about these issues.
We also have an interesting story about "Aletha Dare 1697 +Walter Smith
1684 - 1748" involving a murder & her former spouse Rev George Cook.
|
| ================
| Hello Rices,
|
| Below is an excerpt of our 1999 msg. We are still looking for the Rices to
connect to 'our' W'ton family. We have 'Benjn' Rice awarded Cyder Casks in
our
Robt Widdrington(e)/ Witherington will of 1722, and Sarah Carruthers 1728 md
Benjamin Rice, but still no definite connection.
|
| Does anyone on Rice-L have any Rice connections to Widdrington(e)/
Witherington or Carruthers?
|
| Barry Wetherington
| PS: Note some other Rice clues below that might assist you in your Gen
search.
| PPS: Here are also some Archives Links you can use to OneClick join (Free)
and/or search / Browse various & extensive List Archives:
| http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/witherington.html
| http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/widdrington.html
| http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/r/rice.html
| http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/carruthers.html
|
|
| Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:33:10 -0400
| From: Barry Wetherington <cbarry@,,,>
| To: RICE-L(a)rootsweb.com
| Subject: Benj Rice/Womack/Hatchett/Puckett/Witherington
|
| Hi Rices,
|
| This message connects up my family Widdrington/Witherington to Rice and
discusses possible connections to Womack, etc. Note some Rice names you have
(Benj and Sarah) are mentioned in the 2 wills below.
| 'My' Benjamin Rice was given a cider cask (obviously the most important
devise of this Robert Widdrington b1680 Md Eliz Dare, MD will) (excerpted
below) of 1722.
This family eventually migrated to NC, to the New Bern area of Craven Co
NC.
Thanks,
Barry Wetherington (Witherington-L)
(EXCERPT of WILL)
"Translation of the Robert Widdringtone Will of 1722, Calvert County, Md..
Maryland State Archives Probate Records, Calvert Co, Liber 18, Folio 27.
Translated by Michael Smolek, 2/20/99
In the name of God Amen
I Robert Widdringtone of Christ Church Parish in Calvert County planter
being...
Item I give and bequeath unto my Loving son, Solomon Widderingtone ...
Item I give and bequeath unto my son John .... And do appoint Henry
Easterling Gurardian to my said two sons Solomon & John until they attain
the age of nineteen years ...
Item I do appoint Mr. Walter Smith of St. Leonards guardian of my Daughter
Dorcas Widderingtone until ...
Item I give and bequeath unto my said Daughter Dorcas...
Item I give and bequeath unto my Daughter Mary Widdringtone ... and do
appoint her Aunt Mrs. Mary Dare to be Guardian of her untill she attains the
age of Sixteen years....
Item I give unto Benjn Rice my Cyder Casks.
Item I give unto my Daughter Elizabeth Easterling wife of Henry Easterling
all my household goods not otherwise disposed off all the rest and residue
of my personall Estate whatsoever I give and bequeath unto Henry Easterling
whom I constitute and appoint sole Executor of this my Last Will and
Testament. In Witness thereof, I have hereunto set my mark and seal this
twentieth day of August in the year of Our Lord God- One thousand seven
hundred twenty two
Robert "his mark" Widdringtone Seal
...Witnesses, John Dickinson, William Rutledge, Henry Constable
...
I wrote? ??? me W. Smith Dept Com?? Calvert County"
| ______________________
|
| This is a snippet of our Tree including Benjamin Rice MD Sarah Carruthers:
| 1 John Carruthers 1700 - 1752
| +Content Unk
| 2 Rocksolannah Carruthers 1720 -
| +John Witherington 1703 -
| 3 William Witherington, Sr 1740/41 - 1819 (My GGG Gm)
| +Elizabeth Lewis 1745 -
| . . . .
| 2 Frances Carruthers 1732 -
| +Francis Hodges Sr
| 3 Joshua Hodges 1736 -
| 2 John Carruthers, Jr 1722 - 1762
| +Jane Tuncliff
| 2 Joseph Carruthers 1724 - 1752
| 2 Sarah Carruthers 1728 -
| +Benjamin Rice
| 2 William Carruthers 1730 - 1752
| 3 Sarah Carruthers 1740 -
|
| Our 'other' families include Carruthers, Hodges, Dare, Easterling,
Smith(Walter), Fitchett, and Witherington/ Widdrington, heavily in MD and
NC.
Barry
============================
Below are some incidental potential insights.
Sarah Rice - Her children are:
Francis Rice -- Willed his part to his son Isham Rice.
Thomas Rice -- 5 children: William, Sally, Nancy, Charley, & Benjamin Rice.
[We know a Benj Rice well - this one??? bw
____ Rice --His children are:
Abraham Rice -- ( no application )
Isham Rice -- Francis Rice his _ ___ he is dec'd & his widow Jamima Rice
his Excecutor.
Fanny Rice -- Her children - Nancy Rice received her mothers part but it is
not said she was the only child.
Molly Cheatham -- no application.
Josiah Hatchett, Joseph Talbolt & Martha his wife who was Martha Hatchett,
Judith Furkering who was Judith Hatchett & William Hatchett children of
represenatives of Elizabeth Hatchett, dec'd who was Elizabeth Womack:
Note: William Hatchetts share by a special order of Charlotte County,
(note: 22june1806) note further he William Hatchett is ___ this report of
the Commission called the grandson of Eliza Hatchett. How is That?
Plaintiffs VS Abner Womack, Eliza Cauthorn who was Elizabeth Womack (note
says, living in Franklin County Georgia, 90 years old in 1812) (therefore
born about the time of Robert Widdrington(e) Will of 1722, Calvert County,
Md)
Elizabeth Puckett who was Rice -- her part assigned over to her son
Flemming
Puckett & by him assigned over to Richard Driskill & paid to him.
| ... Isham Rice son & representative ( by Will ) of Francis Rice; William
Rice, Sally Rice, Nancy Rice, Charles Rice, & Benja Rice. Children
Representatives of Thomas Rice dec'd.
___ Rice __& __ ( his children's names not known )
( ---- ) Abraham Rice, Jamima Rice Ex r of Francis Rice __ ( Line drawn
through Children Representatives of ) Richard Driskill assignee of Fleming
Puckett who was assignee of Elizabeth Puckett who was Elizabeth Rice; --
children & representatives of Sarah Rice dec'd who was Sarah Womack.
.....
Mr. Rich d Driskill produced a transfer of Eliza Pucketts part of Wm
Womacks as to one of her sons & from her son to Rich d Driskill -- also a
power of attorney -- from Wm Rice, Sally Rice ( Nancy Rice, Charles Rice &
Benja Rice children of Tho s Rice dec d ___ ___ for the bal., that may be
due the ___ Thos Rice dec d.
______________________________
...
stonewall jackson wrote:
Pat, No, I don't mind at all. What I have been able to get out of it so
far is that Sarah Womack married a Rice. Their children were Thomas (father
of Wm. Sally, Nancy, Charles, and Benjamin), Francis (widow Jamima and son
Isham), Abraham, Fanny Rice (may be a widow of a son of Sarah's had
daughter Nancy), Elizabeth who married a Puckett, and another son the name
was not ledgible I suppose.
...
Elizabeth Cauthorn was born in 1722((again, the date of Robt Widdrington's
MD will). She was the child of Abraham Womack, Sr. of LIncoln Co., NC.
I suppose Sarah Womack Rice was the daughter of William Womack of Charlotte
Co., VA.
Hi Paul, I am not related to any of the ones listed in the will but I
wondered if you would mind if I forward it to Caswell Co. list. It might be
of help and I know some of the ones there are researching the Rice family.
Pat Nelson nels095(a)ibm.net
______________________________
EXCERPT OF JOHN CARRUTHERS WILL (1751), Craven Co., NC
I, John Carruthers, of the County of Craven, and Province of North
Carolina, merchant, ...
I Give and Bequeath unto my Daughter, Rocksolannah Witherinton, one lott of
Land lying in Newbern town, and joining Pollocks Street and Eding Street...
Item. I Give and Bequeath to my daughter, Frances Hodges, ... and the
Francis Hodges Cow Pen, unto her, the sd. Frances Hodges...
Item. I Give and Bequeath unto my son, John Carruthers...
Item. I Give and Bequeath unto my Son, Joseph Carruthers...
Item. I Give and Bequeath to my daughter, Sarah Rice...
Item. I Give and Bequeath unto my two Sons in law, Francis Hodges and John
Witherinton...
Item. I Give and Bequeath unto my well beloved Wife, Content Carruthers...
| Item. My will and Desire is that ... the Remandar of money may be Equaly
devided between my three Sons, William Carruthers, John Carruthers, and
Joseph
Carruthers, and my daughter, Sarah Rice, and if my son William Carruthers
shuld
not be at the devision of the money, I desire his Part of the money may
continue
in the hands of my Executors till he, the foresd. William Carruthers, cums
for
it.
| . . . .
| John Carruthers (Seal) Sarah Betsworth (mark) Abiah Bangs Sol. Rew
______________________________
Some other incidental refs of potential value:
#1 Early VA, NC Rice/Womack puzzle #2 Caldwell Co., NC, VA Rice/Womack #3
Re:
Josiah Womack will [stonewall jackson < stonewall@InfoA]
I hope this will help someone. There are families that connect to the Rices
consistantly from VA in the early 1700's through the 1800s. The Womacks were
one such family. Other families include: Holcombs, Crenshaws, Harris,
Watkins, and Barns.
Mlwomack(a)aol.com wrote: Paul, below is some info that may tie some info
that
may help sort some of it i'm still trying to figure it out also. Roger
Womack
Will of Abraham Womack, 15 September 1796.
... Given under my hand this 13th day of May Ad. 1816.
Sol Graves PM.
State of Notrh Carolina Caswell County
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:55:11 -0400 From: Barry Wetherington.
To: RICE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Willis Witherington/Abiah
Bangs/Carruthers/Witherington/Hodges/Rice
Thanks Frances, I thought Jean had sent something about Willis - she's out
of the counrty now though. I do hope to pursue the Abiah/Abia Bangs thing
though. Thanks for your thoughts and analysis. I'm including an excerpt of
the 1751 Carruthers will below in which there is mention of Sarah Betsworth
Abiah Bangs Sol. Rew and the principals Carruthers, Witherington, Hodges and
Rice (also mentioned in the 1721 will).
Barry frances l Etheredge wrote: No one has inquired of Willis, as far as I
am aware, but I am sending this item for your records on Witheringtons, etc.
Marriage Fees paid in Dobbs County on Licenses Bought from July 5, 1783 to
Jan 1, 1790. (List of receipts for marriage licenses paid. Certified at
Kinston).
Willis Witherington Dec. 9, 1789 (No female listed) The above were reported
by Abraham Sheppard, Chairman of the Court of Pleas and Common Sessions.
(Stubs filed with Secretary of State.) In the will of Abraham ADAMS, Sr.
dated 23 Oct 1733, Bath Co. NC, he names his wife, Bathia, Sons: Willoughby,
Abram Richard and William and a daughter, ABIA. Do you suppose there is a
connection with the family of Abia BANGS? It was witnessed by Philip and
Mary Shute and J. N. Collison. Frances
===============
This 379 page book is available through The Edmund Rice (1638) Association,
Inc. at the official website:
http://www.widomaker.com/~gwk/era/.
The association also maintains an online database at this site. It
includes information from the book as well as some additions and
corrections. The online database is located at
http://www.dearroz.pointclark.net/ERA/index.htm
The direct URL for books that are available for sale is
http://www.widomaker.com/~gwk/era/books.htm.
All the materials from the association are very reasonably priced.
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/b/binkes.html
Barry
Barry Wetherington
[Research Resources early England: This is a message to the Rice List, but I
am copying this to all Lists I host as a Research strategy for early UK
records].
One potentially excellent place to begin searching in the UK archives, and
THE place you likely are seeking, is:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.htmhttp://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp (One of the best search options
there)
(BUT read this entire msg before you jump in).
This is pretty much the British major Research/ Search site - an oddball
resource. They are NOT a Google search. It is quite difficult to get to the
right place, but then they have so much, if you figure out how to access.
For ex: "Rice family, Barons Dynevor: Dynevor CastleShow Seats and/or
Estates
4 records noted: Scope 1481-19th cen: deeds, family and estate papers," &
see below
http://www.nra.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/fedocs.asp?FER=F8894
or:
One catalogue was found to match "Griffith Rice"
Birmingham City Archives: Hanley Court Estate (Worcestershire) archive
1300-1927 1 hit(s)
(And see to the bottom!)
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/doclist.asp?nb=0&nbKey=1&com=1&keyword=Griff...
Details
GB/NNAF/F8894
Rice family, Barons Dynevor: Dynevor CastleShow Seats and/or Estates
4 records noted:
Scope 1481-19th cent: deeds, family and estate papers
RepositoryNational Library of Wales: Department of Collection Services
Record ReferenceDynevor
NRA catalogue referenceNRA 34417 Rice
Other referencesee Annual Report 1965 p41, 1958-59 pp51-2
http://www.nra.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/fedocs.asp?FER=F8894
If you find something (you are allowed to search for free), there is a
per/report charge. They have many records from the 1500s. If you have
trouble, let me know, & let me know of success.
Rice-Evans family of Eaglesbush (addnl): papers 1864-1963
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/accessions/1999/99digests/wales.htmhttp://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help/atoz.htm#r
Search results
Family and Estates Index: Title contains ("Rice")
9 result(s) were found.
Rice-Evans family of Eaglesbush (1)
Rice family, Barons Dynevor: Dynevor Castle (4)
Rice family of Alderminster and Stratford Upon Avon (2)
Rice family of Llangyfelach (1)
Rice family of Tooting Graveney Manor (1)
Pryse-Rice family of Llwynybrain (2)
Talbot Rice family, Barons Dynevor: Llancaiach (1)
Talbot Rice family, Barons Dynevor, Neath Abbey estate (4)
Talbot Rice family, Barons Dynevor, Barrington (1)
http://www.nra.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/feresult.asp
Other ways to search: Advanced search of the Family Index
Browse the Family & Estates Index
Help with Searching:
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/help/index.asp
Barry Wetherington
=====================
1500s Rice sites:
592 catalogues were found to match Rice
Shown below are catalogues 1 to 25 (of 592)
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/doclist.asp?nb=0&nbKey=3&com=1&keyword=Rice&...
Shakespeare Birthplace Trust Records Office: Rice Family of Warwickshire
1567-1978 203 hit(s)
East Sussex Record Office: Additional Manuscripts, Catalogue U1420-2003 164
hit(s)
Shropshire Archives: A Collection of Deeds and Papers relating to the Hanmer
Family of Pentrepant 1253-1772 55 hit(s)
Dean and Chapter of York: Lease Registers 1508-1908 29 hit(s)
Shakespeare Birthplace Trust Records Office: Slatter Son and More,
Solicitors 1596-1994 21 hit(s)
Shropshire Archives: The Attingham Collection [112/5/1 - 112/16/33]
1429-1961 19 hit(s)
British Library, India Office Records: East India Company Factory Records
[IOR/G/09] 1595-1858 19 hit(s)
Wiltshire and Swindon Record Office: Diocese of Salisbury [D/1/14] 1278-1978
18 hit(s)
Devon Record Office: St Mary Arches Parish, Exeter 1232-1917 17 hit(s)
Isle of Wight Record Office: Newport Borough Records: Charters and Deeds
[NBC/1/1 - NBC/1/1599] 1180-1931 17 hit(s)
Cumbria Record Office, Carlisle Headquarters: Hudleston family of Hutton
John [D HUD 10 - D HUD A.] 1216-1980 17 hit(s)
Devon Record Office: Dunsford Parish 1594-1930 15 hit(s)
Shropshire Archives: Venables Collection 1419-1945 15 hit(s)
Shakespeare Birthplace Trust Records Office: Deeds 1300-186614 hit(s)
House of Lords Record Office: House of Lords [HL/PO/PU/1/1768 -
HL/PO/PU/1/1779] 1497-1779 13 hit(s)
London Metropolitan Archives: The Corporation of the Sons of the Clergy
[A/CSC/2628 - A/CSC/3213]1273-1996 13 hit(s)
Gloucestershire Record Office: Gloucestershire Parish Deeds [D2957/161/1 -
D2957/356/8]1250-1928 13 hit(s)
Shropshire Archives: Marrington Collection [448/1 - 448/643]1524-1953 13
hit(s)
Lincolnshire Archives: Hill1154-1993 13 hit(s)
Coventry Archives: Weavers' Company Records1353-1981 12 hit(s)
East Sussex Record Office: The Glynde Place Archives [GLY/1 -
GLY/1138]1222-1977 11 hit(s)
Shakespeare Birthplace Trust Records Office: Slatter Son and More,
Solicitors, of Stratford-upon-Avon1344-1971 11 hit(s)
Cornwall Record Office: Enys of Enys [EN/97 - EN/2425]1298-1939 11 hit(s)
West Sussex Record Office: Penney Collection1580-1987 11 hit(s)
Nottinghamshire Archives: Edge of Strelley [DD/E/119 - DD/E/193]1135-1978 11
hit(s)
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/doclist.asp?nb=0&nbKey=3&com=1&keyword=Rice&...
(You may find this Link the best place to begin)
=====================
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Rice" <ron(a)gen-gen.com>
To: <RICE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: Griffith RICE, circa 1500
> Can anyone on this list suggest primary or secondary sources where I
> might find information about Griffith RICE, born c.1500 in England, m.
> Catherine Howard Countess of Bridgew bet. 1531-1551, and died bet.
> 1556-1592?
Welcome to Cleverly-L Brad,
It would be helpful if you posted a bit of your Cleverly Gen, but you
can access the List Archives at:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/cleverly.html
where you may Browse recent msgs or Search the archives. The list is
relatively new and the Archives are not as strong as for my other Lists.
BTW, ignore the difference in spelling - your added 'e,' altho see
difference in WorldConnect results 2000 vs 600 posts..
There are some excellent other places to start, beginning
w/WorldConnect:
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi
Barry
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