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Hi All Lists
There has been a new development, a favorable development on the Net, of widespread significance, that I think needs publicity.
Both Yahoo AND Microsoft (to meet the Yahoo competitive challenge) have JUST established new policies (Yahoo's took immediate effect, MS is suggesting availability in a few weeks) which will allow, FREE, both the transmission of significantly larger electronic size images (10MB photos, drawings, formatted text, etc, ), AND they both have also vastly increased the size of storage of email and that allowed on their free websites (100 MB Yahoo NOW, 2 GB for MS when they get it up & running, including, as an example, our WringtonAncestors site at: http://groups.msn.com/WringtonAncestors/photos1.msnw)
I recommend that all users of the internet to establish a (Free) email with both Yahoo.com & Microsoft (hotmail.com):
http://www.Yahoo.com , & http://www.Hotmail.com (MS).
for 2 reasons - both to take advantage of the new vastly increased storage allowances/size of free websites and msg transmission sizes, AND, because of the convenience to yourself, because Hotmail & Yahoo mail are each easily accessible anyplace an inet connection is avail, including on the road:
- hotels/motels (many of which now prominently advertise high speed internet AND 'wireless' high speed internet),
- research libraries (so easy to simply email your research notes and findings, along with the website Link (with the actual sources) directly home, than to write down notes, etc.,
- friends & family you visit,
- Kinkos, etc (not Free, but convenient),
- coffee shops,
- airports (altho these are far less advanced than the others mentioned above, and are not so free anymore),
- and even in your auto, if you are wireless connected, either through your cell phone/ pda or through your laptop Wi-Fi connection. [There NOW exist locations in which you can pull in the Drive-through lane for a double Latte, and while sitting behind your steering wheel, while waiting for your order, receive then answer an email msg or 2].
Barry
Barry Wetherington
Birmingham MI(ch) 48009
PS: All email hosts are working on the Spam problem. In Yahoo, there is an excellent option that automatically sends all suspected Spam to a 'Bulk' folder, (you can easily skim/review), which is periodically emptied w/no effort of yours. In my experience, 99% of what gets into the Bulk file is Junk, and, although some junk does still get through to your inbox, it is easily handled.
PPS: Google is also in the process of launching a similar type service, but I have no details for you.
Hi again W'ton Males & Wton blood females (and those Surname lines that are genealogically thought to be associated thereto), and those who have the power to persuade a W'ton brother, father, GFather, or W'ton blood cousin or uncle to fork over $100 for a genealogical test sample via a simple mouth cotton swab to be mailed in, if you are interested in a possibility of 'solving' to a near 100% your family paternal ancestry, this is the time, place, and opportunity to participate.
Just below are the 'final' answers to many/ most/ all of our questions. It is now time to fish or stick to cutting up the genealogical bait for others. If you are interested in your family history, this is a quantum leap over any of the other methods we presently use to establish our paternal bloodlines. Altho I'm not sure how the DAR handles dna proofs, it is approaching near certainty that dna proofs are FAR more accurate in establishing bllod lines - BUT, the more samples the better, a general truism for all of science.
As far as I can tell, after a few years of discussions (you will find a significant number of RootsWeb List messages in the Archives of 'our' Lists posted by me, and others, that discuss dna testing), the time and circumstances have arrived to move forward. As for the consequences, understand that each single sample is potentially of near dispositive effect, ie one single (repitition purposeful) sample could open, or close, one genealogical surname line for may others, not just for the sampled participant. Granted, if you do not participate right now, and as much as it disappoints me to say so, because it might cause some of you to defer participating now, you may still be able to do so in the future, altho mass consumer testing is unlikely, especially in the near term, because testing is a one-on-one process.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/elliott_border_rei...
If you are convinced, as am I, you can proceed directly to the 'Join up' web page at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=K58255
where you can apply online, the test kit will be shipped next day (& I presume you return it with your check for $99, or more if you wish more information, altho that can also be done on an 'upgrade' basis later), which I will be doing very soon!
Barry
Barry Wetherington
PO Box 1208
Birmingham MIch 48012
cbarrfly(a)comcast.net
248-563-2577
ReiverDNAprojectAnswrs
Barry,
In answer to your questions.
1) Once you join our group, you are a full-fledged customer at Family Tree DNA. You will have full access to your DNA results, and may use them for any purpose that you choose.
2) You will have to pay for upgrades from 12 to 25, 12 to 37 or 25 to 37 Y-DNA markers, but you will not have to pay for anything more. Family Tree DNA does not force you to take any more tests. Nor are there any recurring costs. FTDNA will keep your data on file for twenty years free of charge.
3) The DNA results are confidential. You will see them, and I - as the Group Administrator - will see them. No one else. Your results will, of course, be included on our data tables, but you will be identified there only by your Ysearch ID number and your surname. You will have full access to your Ysearch record - which generally stores the name and place of origin of your earliest known ancestor - and can control what goes into it.
4) The DNA markers used for Y chromosome testing have no medical significance whatsoever. Even if an insurance company got hold of them (which they couldn't), they wouldn't know what to do with them.
5) Wives of Wetherington males can enroll their husbands on their behalf.
6) The data on my web sites is as correct as I can make it, although the data gleaned from public databases is sometimes entered by the owner of the DNA profile by hand, thus introducing the possibility of human error. Data from official participants, however, will always be correct, because I can check it against the source.
7) You will be notified of even just close matches with other participants, and will be free to discuss the results among yourselves to your hearts' content.
Sincerely,
Jim Elliott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Wetherington" <cbarrfly(a)comcast.net>
To: "James V. Elliott" jvance(a)tiac.net
Cc: "Fitchett-L" <fitchett-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Easterling-L"
<Easterling-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Dare-L" <dare-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Cleverly-L"
<CLEVERLY-l(a)rootsweb.com>; "Carruthers-L" <carruthers-L(a)rootsweb.com>;
"Binkes-L" <Binkes-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Batson-L" <Batson-L(a)rootsweb.com>;
"Bangs-L" <bangs-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Weatherton-L"
<weatherington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "WEDDINGTON-L" <WEDDINGTON-L(a)RootsWeb.com>;
"Wetherton-L" <WETHERTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Weth-L"
<wetherington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Widd-L" <widdrington-L(a)rootsweb.com>;
"With-L" <Witherington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "BarryCast" <cbarrfly(a)comcast.net>;
<withington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; <wethington-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: Border Reiver DNA Project Seeking W'ton Participants
Hi James V Elliott, Group Administrator, Elliott (And Border Reivers) DNA Project
GREAT IDEA!:
"DNA Project Seeking Witherington Participants," see excerpt below, & I will post & endorse it to mine & other various W'ton-L Lists.
( I also host the Carruthers-L List, and ask if they should also be considered, even though it was not listed on your website. By copy of this msg, I ask our very knowledgeable Carruthers members if they feel support would be appropriate. I thought the Carruthers WERE quite active 'Reivers.')
I did go to your website:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm
but while Witherington WAS listed, Carruthers was not.
Also, following the discussion outline on your site, specifically the name & US migration pattern variations, the Witheringtons that migrated towards the states you listed, are likely now carrying surname variations of Withington & Wethington and more than 40 other W'ton variations we all have been subjected to (mine is Wetherington):
"3) If the ancestor lived in a state whose earliest settlers from Great Britain with "Border" names came largely from Ulster (e.g., North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky), "Scotch-Irish-USA" was assigned as "Place of Origin"."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm
More to come later, but want to get this off ASAP.
Barry Wetherington
PS: Of course, The Witherington Derwentwaters poem (continued to fight on
his leg stumps) is quite well known.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jvance(a)tiac.net>
To: <WITHERINGTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:00 PM
Subject: [Witherington] Border Reiver DNA Project Is Seeking Witherington
Participants
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
Surnames: WITHERINGTON
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GFXBAIB/53
Message Board Post:
Hello,
If you are an adult male paternally descended from the Anglo-Scottish Border family Witherington, and have ever considered getting your Y chromosome tested, you may do so at a substantial discount by joining the Border Reiver DNA Project at Family Tree DNA.
The Border Reiver DNA Project is a serious genetic and genealogical study started this March by two customers of Family Tree DNA, James V. Elliott and David B. Strong. Although it began as a study of the Elliott Border Reiver family, it has since expanded to include members of other Border Reiver families, including a direct descendant of the legendary Border Reiver, Johnnie Armstrong, a senior officer of the Clan Hall Society, Dixons, Irvings, Kerrs, Littles, Taylors, Carruthers, Davisons, Ogles, Hunters and others. Members of all Border Reiver families are welcome now, and we emphatically encourage your participation.
The home page for our study, which includes many links to other web pages about the Scots, the Britons, the Border Reivers and their ancestors, may be accessed at the URL below:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallgaedhil/elliott_border_reive...
We are conducting our study of the Border Reiver families using Y chromosome DNA markers, because the Y chromosome is passed, just like a surname, from father to son with very few changes over many generations. That makes these DNA markers an ideal tool for tracing paternal descent and, by extension, the history of families.
The goals of the Border Reiver DNA Project are as follows:
1) James Leyburn, in his excellent book "The Scotch-Irish: A Social History", characterized the ancestry of the Anglo-Scottish Border people as a diverse mixture of Picts, Brythonic Celts, Scotti, Irish Gaels, both Danish and Norwegian Vikings, Angles and Saxons, troops and settlers from all over the Roman Empire - as well as Normans, Flemish and many others. We intend to use Y chromosome analysis to explore the ancestral origin of Border Reiver descendants, both individually (if we can) and as a group. We have already done substantial reading about both the history of Europe and the latest developments in population genetics, and have compiled a database of more than 350 likely Border Reiver descendants obtained from public databases at Family Tree DNA and elsewhere.
The URL below will give you some idea of the extent of our ongoing study:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallgaedhil/dna_by_haplogroup.htm
2) The Border Reivers rode during a period of extreme chaos in the history of the Anglo-Scottish Border. any young mothers were widowed, and many children were orphaned. The social customs of the Reivers, affected by a need for self-reliance and the shifting circumstances of the era, favored trial marriages, and allowed even married women to keep their surnames. The larger Border Reiver clans themselves were like tribes or military units as much as families, and many born with different surnames joined these clans for protection, eventually assuming the clan surname as their own. As a consequence of all these factors, Border Reiver descendants are to this day closely interrelated. Many with different surnames share the same ancestors, and many with the same surname are descended from genetically distinct paternal lines. Our DNA Project seeks to determine the relationships among these descendants, both on an individual and a family level.
The URL below will give you some idea of the families already included in our study:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm
The group rate for joining the Border Reiver DNA Project is 99 USD for a 12 marker Y chromosome test, or 169 USD for a 25 marker test. The 12 marker test easily suffices to determine your "deep ancestry", and can provide enough data to suggest a shared paternal ancestry within the last 14 or 15 generations. The 25 marker test, more favored by DNA genealogists, can identify a shared paternal ancestry within the last 7 generations.
>
> These group rates represent a substantial savings over the cost of joining Family Tree alone. For instance, the cost of getting the 12 marker test is nearly 40 percent less than what I paid for the same test last summer. Once you join our group, you will have full privileges as a Family Tree DNA customer. Family Tree DNA will store your genetic material with absolute privacy and security for twenty years, and will publish information about your Y chromosome markers, their likely ethnic origin, and the e-mail addresses of exact matches, on your own personal, password-protected web
page. In addition, all other DNA tests you wish to order will be available to you at a considerable discount.
Despite the foregoing discussion of cost, this is a serious study, not a commercial venture. If you are interested in joining us, or would simply like more info, please contact James V. Elliott at jvance(a)tiac.net.
Sincerely,
James V. Elliott
Group Administrator
Elliott (And Border Reivers) DNA Project
==== WITHERINGTON Mailing List ====
Research our extensive Archives - doubleclick this Link NOW:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/witherington.html
then search the extensive Archives or Browse recent msgs
==============================
==============================
----- Original Message -----
From: "James V. Elliott" <jvance(a)tiac.net>
To: "Barry Wetherington" <cbarrfly(a)comcast.net>; "Weth-L"
<wetherington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Wetherton-L" <WETHERTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>;
"WEDDINGTON-L" <WEDDINGTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Weatherton-L"
<weatherington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Widd-L" <widdrington-L(a)rootsweb.com>;
<WITHERINGTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>; <Wethington-L(a)rootsweb.com>;
<Withington-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Cc: "BarryCast" <cbarrfly(a)comcast.net>; "Carruthers-L"
<carruthers-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:43 PM
Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: Border Reiver DNA Project Seeking W'ton Participants
Thanks James,
Sounds good - I'm IN!!! Perhaps I missed it but are the results 'ours'?
Ie, can I use it for other such List activities? For ex, if I don't match up
w/the Reivers W'tons, can I use it, for example, for the 'Loyalists?' W'ton
matching, or other such? etc (ie I might suspected I was adopted, or just
donated by the milkman, etc???)' ie, do I 'own' my results? We won't keep
getting hit for more money (other than converting fron 12 to 25 markers) for
any other dna test results you or we may wish to use? The results are
confidential between the donor & the tester, unless revealed by the donor,
correct? To anticipate, are there dna determinations that would require the
testers to report it to any authorities? . . . ie carrier of this or
infected w/that???
I presume that females that md into the W'tons or associated Surnames
can try to get their father, or his brother, uncle or father to co-operate,
or have I missed something here? The websites to which you refer are those
listed below, correct? I'll read the material to which you have directed
me, and if it's clear there, no need for you to answer.
Assuming yes, I'm in for dna testing of myself (I'll probably be in under
any circumstances) to determine what can be determined by a dna test, AND am
recommending it for the other male W'tons (& male Carruthers & related
surnames) that are interested in such a determination. Do you who have
matched up discuss it amongst each other?
Barry
To Barry & all Wetheringtons and Carruthers (& 'our' other 'related
Surnames within e-mailing distance?,
We would warmly welcome your number into our midst. We have a Witherington
DNA profile in our database that we have rustled from elsewhere, and are
seeking more. We are well aware that the Carruthers clan were Border
Reivers, too - indeed, we have recruited three in the past month. One of
those gentlemen is a resident of Cumbria, as a matter of fact - a veritable
Debateable-Landsman!
Within the last three months, we have been able to recruit nearly thirty
official participants and many additional contributors - including members
of the Elliott, Armstrong, Dixon, Irving, Hall, Davison, Ogle, Taylor,
Hunter, Little, Kerr, Carruthers, Graham, Johnstone and other families. We
have already assembled a database of more than 350 suspected "Border Reiver"
DNA profiles that we have gathered from various public databases, as well as
from our participants and contributors.
To participate in the Border Reiver DNA Project, you must purchase a
Ychromosome test kit from Family Tree DNA. We suggest the 12 marker Y
chromosome test, or the 25 marker Y chromosome test. Either test makes you
eligible to join. We use Y chromosome DNA markers because these are passed
from father to son across many generations with very few changes, and are
therefore an ideal method for tracing paternal ancestry. The more time has
passed since two men shared the same paternal ancestor, the more differences
may arise between their respective DNA markers - and those differences are
what we use to determine the level of genetic closeness.
If you score a 12 marker match with someone else, that means there is at
least a 50% chance that you and your match shared the same paternal ancestor
sometime in the last 350 years. The 12 marker test will also be more than
adequate to provide info about your "deep ancestry" - among the Celts,
Angles, Vikings, Romans, etc The group rate for this test is 99 USD, which
is nearly 40% less than what I paid for the same test when I ordered it on
my own last year.
If you score a match with the 25 marker test, that means there is at least
a 50% chance that you and your match shared the same paternal ancestor
within the last 7 generations - or within the last 175 years. The group
rate for that test is 169 USD. This also represents a considerable
bargain.
If you score an exact, or even a close, match with another participant in
our project, you will be provided with the other participant's name and
e-mail address.
Which test you choose to take is totally up to you. Experienced DNA
genealogists recommend the 25 marker test. But you may take the 12 marker
test now, and upgrade to 25 markers later, depending on your level of
interest - and if you score an exact match with another participant.
Here is the link you will need to order your test and enroll in the Elliott
(And Border Reivers) DNA Project.
http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=K58255
Do not hesitate to contact me if you have any more questions or concerns.
(Please also visit the web pages whose URLs I included in my posting - if
you have not done so already. These will give you a sense of the depth and
breadth of our project.)
Sincerely,
James V. Elliott
Group Administrator
Elliott (And Border Reivers) DNA Project
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Wetherington" <cbarrfly(a)comcast.net>
> To: "Weth-L" <wetherington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Wetherton-L"
> <WETHERTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "WEDDINGTON-L" <WEDDINGTON-L(a)RootsWeb.com>;
> "Weatherton-L" <weatherington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Widd-L"
> <widdrington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; <WITHERINGTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>;
> <Wethington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; <Withington-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Cc: "BarryCast" <cbarrfly(a)comcast.net>; "Carruthers-L"
> <carruthers-L(a)rootsweb.com>; <jvance(a)tiac.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:27 PM
> Subject: Border Reiver DNA Project Seeking W'ton Participants
>Hi James V Elliott, Group Administrator, Elliott (And Border Reivers) DNA
Project
GREAT IDEA!:
"DNA Project Seeking Witherington Participants," see excerpt below, & I
will post & endorse it to mine & other various W'ton-L Lists.
( I also host the Carruthers-L List, and ask if they should also be
considered, even though it was not listed on your website. By copy of this
msg, I ask our very knowledgeable Carruthers members if they feel support
would be appropriate. I thought the Carruthers WERE quite active 'Reivers.')
I did go to your website:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm
but while Witherington WAS listed, Carruthers was not.
Also, following the discussion outline on your site, specifically the
name & US migration pattern variations, the Witheringtons that migrated
towards the states you listed, are likely now carrying surname variations of
Withington & Wethington and more than 40 other W'ton variations we all have
been subjected to (mine is Wetherington):
"3) If the ancestor lived in a state whose earliest settlers from Great
Britain with "Border" names came largely from Ulster (e.g., North Carolina,
Tennessee, Kentucky), "Scotch-Irish-USA" was assigned as "Place of Origin"."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm
More to come later, but want to get this off ASAP.
Barry Wetherington
PS: Of course, The Witherington Derwentwaters poem (continued to fight on
his leg stumps) is quite well known.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jvance(a)tiac.net>
To: <WITHERINGTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:00 PM
Subject: [Witherington] Border Reiver DNA Project Is Seeking Witherington
Participants
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
Surnames: WITHERINGTON
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GFXBAIB/53
Message Board Post:
Hello,
If you are an adult male paternally descended from the Anglo-Scottish
Border family Witherington, and have ever considered getting your Y
chromosome tested, you may do so at a substantial discount by joining the
Border Reiver DNA Project at Family Tree DNA.
The Border Reiver DNA Project is a serious genetic and genealogical study
started this March by two customers of Family Tree DNA, James V. Elliott and
David B. Strong. Although it began as a study of the Elliott Border Reiver
family, it has since expanded to include members of other Border Reiver
families, including a direct descendant of the legendary Border Reiver,
Johnnie Armstrong, a senior officer of the Clan Hall Society, Dixons,
Irvings, Kerrs, Littles, Taylors, Carruthers, Davisons, Ogles, Hunters and
others. Members of all Border Reiver families are welcome now, and we
emphatically encourage your participation.
The home page for our study, which includes many links to other web pages
about the Scots, the Britons, the Border Reivers and their ancestors, may be
accessed at the URL below:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallgaedhil/elliott_border_reive...
We are conducting our study of the Border Reiver families using Y
chromosome DNA markers, because the Y chromosome is passed, just like a
surname, from father to son with very few changes over many generations.
That makes these DNA markers an ideal tool for tracing paternal descent and,
by extension, the history of families.
The goals of the Border Reiver DNA Project are as follows:
1) James Leyburn, in his excellent book "The Scotch-Irish: A Social
History", characterized the ancestry of the Anglo-Scottish Border people as
a diverse mixture of Picts, Brythonic Celts, Scotti, Irish Gaels, both
Danish and Norwegian Vikings, Angles and Saxons, troops and settlers from
all over the Roman Empire - as well as Normans, Flemish and many others. We
intend to use Y chromosome analysis to explore the ancestral origin of
Border Reiver descendants, both individually (if we can) and as a group. We
have already done substantial reading about both the history of Europe and
the latest developments in population genetics, and have compiled a database
of more than 350 likely Border Reiver descendants obtained from public
databases at Family Tree DNA and elsewhere.
The URL below will give you some idea of the extent of our ongoing study:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallgaedhil/dna_by_haplogroup.htm
2) The Border Reivers rode during a period of extreme chaos in the history
of the Anglo-Scottish Border. any young mothers were widowed, and many
children were orphaned. The social customs of the Reivers, affected by a
need for self-reliance and the shifting circumstances of the era, favored
trial marriages, and allowed even married women to keep their surnames. The
larger Border Reiver clans themselves were like tribes or military units as
much as families, and many born with different surnames joined these clans
for protection, eventually assuming the clan surname as their own. As a
consequence of all these factors, Border Reiver descendants are to this day
closely interrelated. Many with different surnames share the same ancestors,
and many with the same surname are descended from genetically distinct
paternal lines. Our DNA Project seeks to determine the relationships among
these descendants, both on an individual and a family level.
The URL below will give you some idea of the families already included in
our study:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm
The group rate for joining the Border Reiver DNA Project is 99 USD for a 12
marker Y chromosome test, or 169 USD for a 25 marker test. The 12 marker
test easily suffices to determine your "deep ancestry", and can provide
enough data to suggest a shared paternal ancestry within the last 14 or 15
generations. The 25 marker test, more favored by DNA genealogists, can
identify a shared paternal ancestry within the last 7 generations.
These group rates represent a substantial savings over the cost of joining
Family Tree alone. For instance, the cost of getting the 12 marker test is
nearly 40 percent less than what I paid for the same test last summer. Once
you join our group, you will have full privileges as a Family Tree DNA
customer. Family Tree DNA will store your genetic material with absolute
privacy and security for twenty years, and will publish information about
your Y chromosome markers, their likely ethnic origin, and the e-mail
addresses of exact matches, on your own personal, password-protected web
page. In addition, all other DNA tests you wish to order will be available
to you at a considerable discount.
Despite the foregoing discussion of cost, this is a serious study, not a
commercial venture. If you are interested in joining us, or would simply
like more info, please contact James V. Elliott at jvance(a)tiac.net.
Sincerely,
James V. Elliott
Group Administrator
Elliott (And Border Reivers) DNA Project
==== WITHERINGTON Mailing List ====
> > Research our extensive Archives - doubleclick this Link NOW:
> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/witherington.html
> > then search the extensive Archives or Browse recent msgs
> > ==============================
----- Original Message -----
From: "James V. Elliott" <jvance(a)tiac.net>
To: "Barry Wetherington" <cbarrfly(a)comcast.net>; "Weth-L"
<wetherington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Wetherton-L" <WETHERTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>;
"WEDDINGTON-L" <WEDDINGTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Weatherton-L"
<weatherington-L(a)rootsweb.com>; "Widd-L" <widdrington-L(a)rootsweb.com>;
<WITHERINGTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>; <Wethington-L(a)rootsweb.com>;
<Withington-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Cc: "BarryCast" <cbarrfly(a)comcast.net>; "Carruthers-L"
<carruthers-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:43 PM
Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: Border Reiver DNA Project Seeking W'ton
Participants
Lost Colony Surnames ctd
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/people.asp?start=nokes&pubid=
Found 3 people
Name Floruit Source
1 NOKES, Nathaniel1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
2 NOKES, Nathaniel1666Historical gazetteer of London before the Great Fire
3 NOKES, Sarah1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
Found 5 peopleNameFloruitSource
1 NOAKES, Mrs -1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
2 NOAKES, Charles1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
3 NOAKES, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
4 NOAKES, Penelope1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
5 NOAKES, William1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
Found 3 peopleNameFloruitSource
1 SACKVILL, Colonel -1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
2 SACKVILLE, Widow -1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
3 SACKVILLE, Johana, Joanna(h)1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
1600s London surnames: Rolfe, Dare, Bolling, Noakes/ Nokes, White(John),
Smith(John);
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/people.asp?start=rolfe&pubid=
(In addition to Leader John White, and Ananias dare, the other Lost Colony
'officers' (1587s) were:
Christpher Cooper, Wm Fullwood, Roger Pratt, Geo Howe?, Dionise Harvye, John
Nicholes, Symon Fardinando, & Roger Baily plus 2 more w/o listed Arms. We
have the official Arms for each of these listed 'officers,' which can be
attached & emailed. bw).
Found 41 Rolfes: (prior msg)
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Cooper: (302 Coopers - no Chris)
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/people.asp?start=cooper&pubid=
Fullwood: (0)
Pratt: (82 - no Roger)
Howe: (15 - no Geo, but :
11 HOWE, Sir William 1364 Historical gazetteer of London before the Great
Fire
12 HOWE, Thomas 1548 Historical gazetteer of London before the Great Fire
Harvye:
1 HARVYE, George 1601-1631 Historical gazetteer of London before the Great
Fire
2 HARVYE, Thomas 1606-1609 Historical gazetteer of London before the Great
Fire
3 HARVYE, William Historical gazetteer of London before the Great Fire
Nicholes:
1 NICHOLES, Anne 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
2 NICHOLES, Thomas 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
3 NICHOLES, Thomas 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
Fardinando: FARDINANDO, Emanuel 1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
Baily:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/people.asp?start=Baily&pubid=
1 BAILY, Widow - 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
2 BAILY, Edward 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
3 BAILY, James 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
4 BAILY, John 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
5 BAILY, Joshua 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
John White, Team Leader
169 WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
170 WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
171 WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
172 WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
173 WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
174 WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695175WHITE,
John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695176WHITE, John1695London
Inhabitants within the Walls 1695177WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within
the Walls 1695178WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls
1695179WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695180WHITE,
John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695181WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s182WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s183WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s184WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s185WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s186WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s187WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s188WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s189WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s190WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s191WHITE, John1695London
Inhabitants within the Walls 1695192WHITE, John1693-1694Metropolitan London
in the 1690s193WHITE, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s194WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s195WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s196WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s197WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s198WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s199WHITE,
John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/people.asp?start=white&placeid=&pubid=&P...
200 WHITE, John
201 WHITE, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
202WHITE, John 1370-1401 Historical gazetteer of London before the Great
Fire
203WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
204WHITE, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
205WHITE, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
206WHITE, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
207WHITE, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
208WHITE, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
209WHITE, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
210 WHITE, John 1423 Historical gazetteer of London before the Great Fire
211 WHITE, John 1396 Historical gazetteer of London before the Great Fire
212WHITE, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
213WHITE, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
112 WHITE, Ellinor 1695 London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
1 FITCHETT, Mr 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/people.asp?start=worth&pubid=
17 WORTHINGTON, Widow - 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
18 WORTHINGTON, Barbery 1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
19 WORTHINGTON, Edward 1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
20 WORTHINGTON, Gilbert 1446 Historical gazetteer of London before the Great
Fire
21 WORTHINGTON, Thomas 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
22 WORTHINGTON, Tobias 1615 Historical gazetteer of London before the Great
Fire
Found 2 peopleNameFloruitSource
1 RALEIGH, John 1693-1694 Metropolitan London in the 1690s
2 RALEIGH, Mr Philip1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/people.asp?start=rolfe&pubid=
527 ROLFE, ROLPH , Rebecca(h) 1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 169
528 ROLFE, ROLPH , Rebecca(h) 1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
1 CLEVERLY, Ann 1695 London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
2 CLEVERLY, Arthur, Arther 1695 London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
3 CLEVERLY, Hanna(h) 1695 London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
Found 17 peopleNameFloruitSource
1 BATSON, Elizabeth 1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
2 BATSON, Hanna(h)1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
3 BATSON, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
4BATSON, John1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
5BATSON, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
6BATSON, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
7BATSON, John1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
8BATSON, Mary1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
9BATSON, Robert1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
10BATSON, Robert1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
11BATSON, Thomas1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
12BATSON, Thomas1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
13BATSON, Walter1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
14BATSON, Walter1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
15BATSON, William1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
16BATSON, William1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
17BATSON, William1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
NameFloruitSource
1 BINK(E)S, BINCKS , Andrew 1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
2BINK(E)S, BINCKS , Andrew1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
3BINK(E)S, BINCKS , Daniel(l)1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
4BINK(E)S, BINCKS , Edward1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
5BINK(E)S, BINCKS , Elizabeth1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
6BINK(E)S, BINCKS , Elizabeth1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
7BINK(E)S, BINCKS , Jane1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
8BINK(E)S, BINCKS , Joseph1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
9BINK(E)S, BINCKS , Mary1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
10BINK(E)S, BINCKS , Timothy1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
11 BINKE, John 1608Historical gazetteer of London before the Great Fire
12 BINKES, Andrew 1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
Found 7 peopleNameFloruitSource
1 AMOS, Aron 1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
2AMOS, Aron1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
3AMOS, George1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
4AMOS, Hester1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
5AMOS, Jane1695London Inhabitants within the Walls 1695
6AMOS, William1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s
7AMOS, William1693-1694Metropolitan London in the 1690s