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I was cleaning out my inbox and reread Honey's e-mail. I checked quickly and am not a FF match with Honey. Has anyone else who is a Clendenin/Glendenning descendant done an autosomal DNA test. I could check to see if we are a match. If you want to check for me, I am listed as Marsha Moses.
On Aug 5, 2014, at 2:42 AM, Honey Lanham via <clendinen(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
> Hello again,
> The autosomal testing is a real opportunity to link with blood relatives.
> From what I understand, they analyze a section of ones DNA and compare
> it to all the other participants within their data base.
Hi,
I'm wondering who this Robert Glindining may be. Any help in identifying him
would be of interest:
"WE the passengers on board the ship Wilmington, James Jefferies, master, in
number 230 think it a duty incumbent on us, in this public manner, to return
our hearty thanks to our worthy captain, for his particular care and
attention to us, during our passage from Belfast to Wilmington, and most
earnestly recommend the aforesaid captain to the notice of all our
countrymen who wish to come to America. Signed by the undernamed, by request
and in behalf of all.
Jorre, adv. in the Parl. of Paris. William Dabzell, James Still, Edward
Mitchell, Robert Givin, James Givin, George Alexander, Thomas Hamckon, James
Bateson, Thomas Dunlap, William Dunlap, Stephen Marshall, James M'Corley,
Robert Moore, Henry Gillaspy, James Gray; Samuel M'Cowel, James
Watson, Daniel M'Kinley, James Duncan, George M'Keag, Jospeh M'Farland,
William M'Farland, Sampson Stewart, John Morrison, John M'Clean, Samuel
M'Comb, Andrew Dinsmore, Richard Owens, Robert Farell, Christopher
Armstrong, Robert M'Clinchy, Alexander Barr, Isaac Roberts, John Montgomery,
Anthony Briggs, William Walker, Peter Duffy, John Owens, William Gaa, Hugh
Beattie, Henry Clark, John Brown, Alexander Stewart, John Gaw, Samuel
Anderson, John Cochran, Andrew Picen, Hugh Perry, David Black, Hugh Carson,
William Carson, Robert Duff, John Brown, John M'Calley, Thomas Moore,
Barnard Magee, Daniel M'ilroy, Samuel Gilmor, Adam Morrow, Hugh Mulholm,
Archibald M'Salley, James Anderson, William Herron, George M'William, Thomas
Gardner, James Elliot, Robert Glindining, William M'Cernan, James Bell,
William Led[ole], Thomas Guin, James Barron, Thomas Donnald,
Robert Baxter, Samuel Thompson, John Shaw, William Pollock, Edward Murry,
Edward Magee, George Brigs, Patrick Starkey, Thomas Diamond, Patrick Gaston,
Samuel Speer, James Simpson, John Stewart, Robert Wallace, Thomas Warlin,
John Gray, George Keith, Patrick M'Qu[i]d, Samuel Gray, John Reeney, William
M'Candles.
September 9th, 1791.
The above ship is expected in this harbour by the first of January next, and
will take in passengers for Newcastle and Philadelphia. Such as wish to
embrace this opportunity are desired to apply to John Caughey, Hanover-quay,
Belfast."
- The Belfast News-Letter, Jul 8-12, 1791
Lee Dickson
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On Aug 5, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Lee Dickson via wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm pleased to see some activity on this list, it's been a while.
>
>
>
> There are several issues being tossed around at the moment and I'd like to
> address some of these.
>
>
>
> "House of Glendonwyn" by G. T. Clindening. I agree with Honey Lanham on this
> one. There are compelling details that are no doubt correct, but we need to
> put this book into perspective and use it as a guide towards finding the
> actual records all over again in order make our own assessment as to what
> the situation is in the complex saga of the Clendinning / Glendinning
> Surname. There was a time when anyone with the same surname was considered
> related and a "cousin." These days have passed, as we have better access to
> old records and the availability of DNA as an extremely useful tool.
>
>
>
> Thank you Honey for your link to your webpage. I started a paper this past
> Spring outlining the various Clendinning / Glendinning with citations, who
> immigrated early to America that might or might not be related to my
> Clendinning, U.E. Line and his brother, John Clendenan Sr. of Markham Twp,
> Upper Canada. I had to stop work on this as I have to work for a living and
> it is a very time consuming project! But I hope to pick at it in the next
> while. I have collected an enormous amount of paper on Clendenning /
> Glendinning, but logging it into the complicated way I've set up my
> research, well, it's like having to start from scratch looking at all these
> family groups and in the process it begs me to research further...so Honey,
> this helps clarify the bit I had on your family line.
>
>
>
> I've been mulling over the idea of posting this paper on my website under an
> un-developed part of my site titled "Projects." There's nothing here except
> the file section at present which I'd built in 2009:
> http://www.leedickson.ca/projects.html. In any case, I will let you know if
> and when it gets posted there...it might be of use down the road to someone.
>
>
>
> DNA. I would really like to see more YDNA for my Clendinning, U.E. and
> brother John Clendenan, Sr. of Markham done. We have only one participant
> from Sharon's project and there should be at least two more, preferably
> three more, thus two from each brother. This line represented by a
> descendant of James Clendening, U.E. is closely linked to the American group
> that are of the Irish-Scots elk. Honey, the one representative noted in
> Sharon's site is two markers off of 37 from the one representative of your
> line. I'm not expert in any of this, but I gather there's a relationship.
> Over the years, I've tried to encourage several Clendinning from the U.E.
> and Markham Line to do the YDNA to no avail...or at least, I am not aware of
> it. I don't seem to have the same determination as Sharon to influence...
>
>
>
> MtDNA. Years ago Sharon asked me to do this test and my response, though
> yes, I'd like to do this, but it was and still is money I don't have; and
> not something that to my understanding would help in any way with the
> Clendinning / Glendinning project. I am descended from two lines. [By the
> way, I'm female, just in case you assumed by my name I'm a male.] I'm
> adopted, so things get a bit touchy about my birth family, I like to keep a
> low profile here, but suffice to say, my father is a Clendinnen from Cathy
> Carley's same family, the Rev. John Clendinnen born Co. Down, Ireland in
> 1770. My line is the Dr. John Deaker Clendinnen Line that immigrated to
> Canada ca. 1850 and there are no living male Clendinnen descendants from
> this line, excepting there is rumour that my birth father might have had a
> second illegitimate child, a son...but don't know where to go with this bit
> of information. In any case, aside from the fact that this Clendinnen group
> does not relate to any of the others, are unique unto themselves, and more
> closely related to the Anderson Surname: Three males from this family have
> tested and are included in Sharon's project. So, as I see this, my mother's
> mother's mother was born in Parish of Poundstock, Cornwall, England, as was
> her mother and grandmother and probably her great-grandmother, whom I've
> identified, but don't have the exact place of birth for...so you see, I
> don't think this helps. My birth mother is descended from the U.E.L. Line of
> Clendenning, so this is my mother's mother's father's father's mother's
> mother, Ann Clendinning, daughter of James Clendinning, U.E. So it zigzags
> from female to male lines.
>
>
>
> Autosmal Testing sounds very interesting, but I'd need some explanation
> given that it might be helpful to the Clendinning / Glendinning Project. I
> have all my birth family lines back six to eleven generations. The
> Clendinnen and Clendinning, U.E. are 7 and 8 generations respectively and
> the paper work is rock solid in both lines.
>
>
>
> It was only recently that someone mentioned to me that the DNA FamilyTree
> Project was in part available to view on-line. I've used Sharon's old site
> and thought that this other was something private. For anyone who does not
> know, if you go to their site and click on Projects, you need to type in
> "Glendinning" as a surname project, as it does not show up on the alpha
> listing. It does not look like there has been much activity since Sharon's
> passing on this site. For someone like me, who is not a participant, it's
> not a useful site as most of the persons named do not have a senior ancestor
> named. And, perhaps just a mistake, but the one Clendinning, U.E.
> participant has brother John Clendenan of Markham as senior ancestor...a bit
> misleading I must say.
>
>
>
> The short of that one is, I miss Sharon and all the hard work she put into
> the rootsweb site. Both DNA and paper are necessary to help break down those
> brick walls.
>
>
>
> Lee Dickson
>
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CLENDINEN-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi,
I'm pleased to see some activity on this list, it's been a while.
There are several issues being tossed around at the moment and I'd like to
address some of these.
"House of Glendonwyn" by G. T. Clindening. I agree with Honey Lanham on this
one. There are compelling details that are no doubt correct, but we need to
put this book into perspective and use it as a guide towards finding the
actual records all over again in order make our own assessment as to what
the situation is in the complex saga of the Clendinning / Glendinning
Surname. There was a time when anyone with the same surname was considered
related and a "cousin." These days have passed, as we have better access to
old records and the availability of DNA as an extremely useful tool.
Thank you Honey for your link to your webpage. I started a paper this past
Spring outlining the various Clendinning / Glendinning with citations, who
immigrated early to America that might or might not be related to my
Clendinning, U.E. Line and his brother, John Clendenan Sr. of Markham Twp,
Upper Canada. I had to stop work on this as I have to work for a living and
it is a very time consuming project! But I hope to pick at it in the next
while. I have collected an enormous amount of paper on Clendenning /
Glendinning, but logging it into the complicated way I've set up my
research, well, it's like having to start from scratch looking at all these
family groups and in the process it begs me to research further...so Honey,
this helps clarify the bit I had on your family line.
I've been mulling over the idea of posting this paper on my website under an
un-developed part of my site titled "Projects." There's nothing here except
the file section at present which I'd built in 2009:
http://www.leedickson.ca/projects.html. In any case, I will let you know if
and when it gets posted there...it might be of use down the road to someone.
DNA. I would really like to see more YDNA for my Clendinning, U.E. and
brother John Clendenan, Sr. of Markham done. We have only one participant
from Sharon's project and there should be at least two more, preferably
three more, thus two from each brother. This line represented by a
descendant of James Clendening, U.E. is closely linked to the American group
that are of the Irish-Scots elk. Honey, the one representative noted in
Sharon's site is two markers off of 37 from the one representative of your
line. I'm not expert in any of this, but I gather there's a relationship.
Over the years, I've tried to encourage several Clendinning from the U.E.
and Markham Line to do the YDNA to no avail...or at least, I am not aware of
it. I don't seem to have the same determination as Sharon to influence...
MtDNA. Years ago Sharon asked me to do this test and my response, though
yes, I'd like to do this, but it was and still is money I don't have; and
not something that to my understanding would help in any way with the
Clendinning / Glendinning project. I am descended from two lines. [By the
way, I'm female, just in case you assumed by my name I'm a male.] I'm
adopted, so things get a bit touchy about my birth family, I like to keep a
low profile here, but suffice to say, my father is a Clendinnen from Cathy
Carley's same family, the Rev. John Clendinnen born Co. Down, Ireland in
1770. My line is the Dr. John Deaker Clendinnen Line that immigrated to
Canada ca. 1850 and there are no living male Clendinnen descendants from
this line, excepting there is rumour that my birth father might have had a
second illegitimate child, a son...but don't know where to go with this bit
of information. In any case, aside from the fact that this Clendinnen group
does not relate to any of the others, are unique unto themselves, and more
closely related to the Anderson Surname: Three males from this family have
tested and are included in Sharon's project. So, as I see this, my mother's
mother's mother was born in Parish of Poundstock, Cornwall, England, as was
her mother and grandmother and probably her great-grandmother, whom I've
identified, but don't have the exact place of birth for...so you see, I
don't think this helps. My birth mother is descended from the U.E.L. Line of
Clendenning, so this is my mother's mother's father's father's mother's
mother, Ann Clendinning, daughter of James Clendinning, U.E. So it zigzags
from female to male lines.
Autosmal Testing sounds very interesting, but I'd need some explanation
given that it might be helpful to the Clendinning / Glendinning Project. I
have all my birth family lines back six to eleven generations. The
Clendinnen and Clendinning, U.E. are 7 and 8 generations respectively and
the paper work is rock solid in both lines.
It was only recently that someone mentioned to me that the DNA FamilyTree
Project was in part available to view on-line. I've used Sharon's old site
and thought that this other was something private. For anyone who does not
know, if you go to their site and click on Projects, you need to type in
"Glendinning" as a surname project, as it does not show up on the alpha
listing. It does not look like there has been much activity since Sharon's
passing on this site. For someone like me, who is not a participant, it's
not a useful site as most of the persons named do not have a senior ancestor
named. And, perhaps just a mistake, but the one Clendinning, U.E.
participant has brother John Clendenan of Markham as senior ancestor...a bit
misleading I must say.
The short of that one is, I miss Sharon and all the hard work she put into
the rootsweb site. Both DNA and paper are necessary to help break down those
brick walls.
Lee Dickson
To Cathy and Guy
I have submitted a Clendenny DNA project to Ancestry under the name of
Joseph Clendenny via the male line for my family. Also have it on Family
Tree DNA. Would love more to compare this line to.
Cheryl
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:26 PM, <clendinen-request(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re Clendinnen in Australia (Cathy Mkc)
> 2. re Clendinnen Dna Tests (Cathy Mkc)
> 3. Re: re Clendinnen Dna Tests (Guy Glendenning)
> 4. Re: Re Clendinnen in Australia (Honey Lanham)
> 5. Re Dna (Cathy Mkc)
> 6. Re House of Glendonwyn (Cathy Mkc)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Cathy Mkc <cathymkc4(a)yahoo.com>
> To: "CLENDINEN(a)rootsweb.com" <CLENDINEN(a)rootsweb.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 20:47:07 -0700
> Subject: [CLENDINEN] Re Clendinnen in Australia
> Gday:)
> Im in Australia my grandfather was Sydney Claude Ellis Clendinen his
> Father Samuel Alfred Clendinnen(born Ireland) his father William
> Clendinnen, his father John Clendinnen Born circa 1770 in Downpatrick Co
> Down He was a Wesleyan minister in Ireland retired to Bideford in Devon
> where he died in 1855
> At this stage parents unknown butttt We also have a Clindinning Line
> that came here too from Ireland
> Several of the Male lines in Both the Clendinnens and Clindinnings werte
> Doctors and Apothecaries in Ireland/England and Australia
> there were Dna samples sent thru from Clendinnen descendants Here in
> Australia which according to information and data in the Book House of
> Glendonwyn we connected to some of these Clendenins that went from Co Down
> to USA
> My grandfather also had a Copy of Book signed by Gerald Talbot clindinning
> Author of Book and he signed it my Cousin
> There apparently are some discrepancies in this book re data Gerald
> clindinning commissioned someone in Scotland to do the research into this
> family
> There is discrepancies re William glendinning marrying rose ann
> Kirkpatrick...This Marriage has not been found
>
> Also
>
> Apparently there is record in a library at kirkcudbright, in a *Family Tree
> of Glendoning Family*..that states
> *William Glendoning succeeded to Meggarland and Barcroft in the Parish Of
> Borgue in july 1690, He purchased the Estate at Quarterland in Co Down and
> died there in 1764
>
> this William who was a Protestant/Presbyterian married Rose Ann fisher in
> 1713 in killyleagh Co Down This marriage has been found by an English
> Clendinnen Researcher Patrick Bird he also found the Baptisms of their
> children
>
> the Clindinning line that came to Aus is thru Alexander Clindinning their
> son and several of his Male descendants were doctors My William
> clendinnen . my ggrandfathers Father was also an apothecary in Ireland
> Also one of Wiliams Sons who went to Canada john Deaker Clendinnen was
> also an Apothecary
>
> Wiliam clendinnens Brother john who went to NY for awhile was a Jeweller
> in Troy NY he then went to NZ and Died in Victoria Australia
>
> So im interested in making Contact with people on this list interested in
> researching this further and also the data in Book house of glendonwyn
>
> Remembering too going back in Scotland with this Glendinning Line some
> were Catholic , others were Presbyterian /Protestant...and also ive found
> in my own research re this lot with censuses etc several different ways to
> spell the name
>
> Cheers
> regards
> cathy:)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Cathy Mkc <cathymkc4(a)yahoo.com>
> To: "CLENDINEN(a)rootsweb.com" <CLENDINEN(a)rootsweb.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 21:10:19 -0700
> Subject: [CLENDINEN] re Clendinnen Dna Tests
> Forgot to add With the Dna results from Male Clendinnens in Australia it
> showed little or no Connection to the Clendenins that went from Co down to
> USA Butt it did show a close connection to an Armstrong line who were in
> Co Down at same time and were also border Reivers
>
> there were also Other clindinning Families in Co down at same time A
> joseph Clindinning married a Betty Mcelvoy circa mid 1700s Some of
> their Male descendants went to earlston Berwickshire In Scotland and then
> used the Surname Clendinnen
>
> So back to square one with dna studies as the paper trail i.e House of
> Glendonwyn , some of that data may have been incorrect re being connected
> to the lot that went to USA from Co Down
> Wonder if any of u have submitted DNA studies that perhaps connect to this
> Alexander Clindinning line or the joseph Clindinning line from Down
>
> My sister submitted her dna to 23 and me Wonder if any of u on this list
> have done the same who have a
> clendinnen/clindinning/clendinning/glendinning etc direct line
> regards
> cathy:)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Guy Glendenning <gglendenning(a)athenspaper.com>
> To: Cathy Mkc <cathymkc4(a)yahoo.com>, "clendinen(a)rootsweb.com" <
> clendinen(a)rootsweb.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:18:57 +0000
> Subject: Re: [CLENDINEN] re Clendinnen Dna Tests
> Good morning Cathy; I have traced my provable lineage Back to Capt. John
> Glendenning b.ca 1666 d. ca 1712 in King George Co. Va. He married Anne
> Mott and they inherited a portion of the Mott land in Virginia. I currently
> subscribe to Ancestry & have been considering submitting DNA to your
> Clendinen project in hopes of connecting back further than Capt. John and
> to Scotland. Do you think I might make further connections? Thanks, Guy
> Glendenning ________________________________________
> From: clendinen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [clendinen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] on
> behalf of Cathy Mkc via [clendinen(a)rootsweb.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 11:10 PM
> To: CLENDINEN(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CLENDINEN] re Clendinnen Dna Tests
>
> Forgot to add With the Dna results from Male Clendinnens in Australia it
> showed little or no Connection to the Clendenins that went from Co down to
> USA Butt it did show a close connection to an Armstrong line who were in
> Co Down at same time and were also border Reivers
>
> there were also Other clindinning Families in Co down at same time A
> joseph Clindinning married a Betty Mcelvoy circa mid 1700s Some of
> their Male descendants went to earlston Berwickshire In Scotland and then
> used the Surname Clendinnen
>
> So back to square one with dna studies as the paper trail i.e House of
> Glendonwyn , some of that data may have been incorrect re being connected
> to the lot that went to USA from Co Down
> Wonder if any of u have submitted DNA studies that perhaps connect to this
> Alexander Clindinning line or the joseph Clindinning line from Down
>
> My sister submitted her dna to 23 and me Wonder if any of u on this list
> have done the same who have a
> clendinnen/clindinning/clendinning/glendinning etc direct line
> regards
> cathy:)
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> CLENDINEN-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Honey Lanham <hslanham(a)aol.com>
> To: Cathy Mkc <cathymkc4(a)yahoo.com>, clendinen(a)rootsweb.com
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 12:29:20 -0500
> Subject: Re: [CLENDINEN] Re Clendinnen in Australia
> Cathy,
> I descend from Archibald Glendenning of Virginia.
> I have done extensive research but have never been able to prove his
> parentage.
> First, forget spelling, it is all over the map. I have a will where the
> name of the
> deceased is spelled 3 different ways in his own will. Spelling was
> optional until
> about 1900 when spelling became a bit more organized. About 2000 or
> earlier,
> it seems to have started falling apart again, but I digress.
> I have recently done the autosomal testing through Family Tree DNA. I
> highly
> recommend it for anyone. But it is the first DNA test that actually links
> women
> to real time relatives. I have almost a thousand matches and have found
> some
> helpful links.
> I have used "23 and me" for my husband. That testing is geared more
> towards
> health issues but does get some genealogy links.
> I have friends who have used ancestry.com's autosomal testing. I like
> FTDNA a
> bit better for their matching setup. And ancestry.com is now known for
> dropping
> services--so who knows when they will drop their autosomal matching?
> FTDNA and, I think, all the rest now charge about $99 US for the test.
> I only have a few links on my Glendenning/Clendenning/Clendenen line and
> would like to see
> more.
> Unfortunately, in my opinion, much of House of Glendonwyn is probably
> bogus--just a compilation
> of loose bits of facts, history, family tales, hearsay, and fantasy.
> Honey Lanham Dodge, Texas
>
> www.lanhamsource.com
>
> is my website. Archibald is listed there as Clendenen which is the way my
> end of the family started
> spelling it.
>
>
>
> On 8/3/2014 10:47 PM, Cathy Mkc via wrote:
>
>> Gday:)
>> Im in Australia my grandfather was Sydney Claude Ellis Clendinen his
>> Father Samuel Alfred Clendinnen(born Ireland) his father William
>> Clendinnen, his father John Clendinnen Born circa 1770 in Downpatrick Co
>> Down He was a Wesleyan minister in Ireland retired to Bideford in Devon
>> where he died in 1855
>> At this stage parents unknown butttt We also have a Clindinning Line
>> that came here too from Ireland
>> Several of the Male lines in Both the Clendinnens and Clindinnings werte
>> Doctors and Apothecaries in Ireland/England and Australia
>> there were Dna samples sent thru from Clendinnen descendants Here in
>> Australia which according to information and data in the Book House of
>> Glendonwyn we connected to some of these Clendenins that went from Co Down
>> to USA
>> My grandfather also had a Copy of Book signed by Gerald Talbot
>> clindinning Author of Book and he signed it my Cousin
>> There apparently are some discrepancies in this book re data Gerald
>> clindinning commissioned someone in Scotland to do the research into this
>> family
>> There is discrepancies re William glendinning marrying rose ann
>> Kirkpatrick...This Marriage has not been found
>>
>> Also
>>
>> Apparently there is record in a library at kirkcudbright, in a *Family
>> Tree
>> of Glendoning Family*..that states
>> *William Glendoning succeeded to Meggarland and Barcroft in the Parish Of
>> Borgue in july 1690, He purchased the Estate at Quarterland in Co Down and
>> died there in 1764
>>
>> this William who was a Protestant/Presbyterian married Rose Ann fisher in
>> 1713 in killyleagh Co Down This marriage has been found by an English
>> Clendinnen Researcher Patrick Bird he also found the Baptisms of their
>> children
>>
>> the Clindinning line that came to Aus is thru Alexander Clindinning
>> their son and several of his Male descendants were doctors My William
>> clendinnen . my ggrandfathers Father was also an apothecary in Ireland
>> Also one of Wiliams Sons who went to Canada john Deaker Clendinnen was
>> also an Apothecary
>>
>> Wiliam clendinnens Brother john who went to NY for awhile was a Jeweller
>> in Troy NY he then went to NZ and Died in Victoria Australia
>>
>> So im interested in making Contact with people on this list interested in
>> researching this further and also the data in Book house of glendonwyn
>>
>> Remembering too going back in Scotland with this Glendinning Line some
>> were Catholic , others were Presbyterian /Protestant...and also ive found
>> in my own research re this lot with censuses etc several different ways to
>> spell the name
>>
>> Cheers
>> regards
>> cathy:)
>> -------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
>> CLENDINEN-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Cathy Mkc <cathymkc4(a)yahoo.com>
> To: "clendinen(a)rootsweb.com" <clendinen(a)rootsweb.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:19:07 -0700
> Subject: [CLENDINEN] Re Dna
> Hi guy:) Thanks for your reply...nice hearing from you...
> I would give it a Go re Submitting your Dna to maybe 23 and Me etc see
> what results u get
> There is a Clendenin Web Site That Sharon Bryant(Now deceased) started
> Several Yrs Ago And has dna results on there from some of similar name
> who submitted DNA
> But I don't think site is running anymore
> Im very interested in seeing if anyone on this list who has submitted dna
> actually does connect to my Clendinnen Lot in Australia
> Regards
> Cathy:)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Cathy Mkc <cathymkc4(a)yahoo.com>
> To: "clendinen(a)rootsweb.com" <clendinen(a)rootsweb.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:26:17 -0700
> Subject: [CLENDINEN] Re House of Glendonwyn
> Hi Honey:)
> Thanks for your reply...Nice hearing from you too
> Im hoping my post Gets some action going on the Board Re the Book *house
> of Glendonwyn* Of which I have a Copy I think that there are Parts of the
> book that are right re research but im debating the area in book re
> William Glendinning of quarterland Co Down and the Rose Ann Kirkpatrick
> scenario
> So would like to hear from others re this
> Would love to get hold of that family tree of Glendoning apparently in a
> Library in kirkcudbright No idea when it was written or still available I
> have written to the library there re this, but no reply
> so guessing whats next is to locate someone there who wouldn't mind
> checking that for us
> I do have some copies of letters tho written by the Author to the queen re
> this book etc
> and am going to our state library soon as they have more paraphernalia re
> it
> and yesss so many different spellings for this surname which makes it a
> tad frustrating lol at times for us Clendinnen researchers
> regards
> cathy:)
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This email address is no longer in use. Please note that my new email
address is sam.glendinning(a)me.com Please can you update your contact details
for me...
Hi Cathy,
I am of the John Clendenin b. 1755 line from PA. I am going to do the Family Tree DNA as soon as poss and will try to see if we can connect. I'm not sure how all that works but will give it a try.
Best regards, Linda Mesinar
-----Original Message-----
From: Cathy Mkc via <clendinen(a)rootsweb.com>
To: clendinen <clendinen(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 4, 2014 1:19 pm
Subject: [CLENDINEN] Re Dna
Hi guy:) Thanks for your reply...nice hearing from you...
I would give it a Go re Submitting your Dna to maybe 23 and Me etc see what
results u get
There is a Clendenin Web Site That Sharon Bryant(Now deceased) started Several
Yrs Ago And has dna results on there from some of similar name who submitted
DNA
But I don't think site is running anymore
Im very interested in seeing if anyone on this list who has submitted dna
actually does connect to my Clendinnen Lot in Australia
Regards
Cathy:)
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Hi Honey:)
Thanks for your reply...Nice hearing from you too
Im hoping my post Gets some action going on the Board Re the Book *house of Glendonwyn* Of which I have a Copy I think that there are Parts of the book that are right re research but im debating the area in book re William Glendinning of quarterland Co Down and the Rose Ann Kirkpatrick scenario
So would like to hear from others re this
Would love to get hold of that family tree of Glendoning apparently in a Library in kirkcudbright No idea when it was written or still available I have written to the library there re this, but no reply
so guessing whats next is to locate someone there who wouldn't mind checking that for us
I do have some copies of letters tho written by the Author to the queen re this book etc
and am going to our state library soon as they have more paraphernalia re it
and yesss so many different spellings for this surname which makes it a tad frustrating lol at times for us Clendinnen researchers
regards
cathy:)
Hi guy:) Thanks for your reply...nice hearing from you...
I would give it a Go re Submitting your Dna to maybe 23 and Me etc see what results u get
There is a Clendenin Web Site That Sharon Bryant(Now deceased) started Several Yrs Ago And has dna results on there from some of similar name who submitted DNA
But I don't think site is running anymore
Im very interested in seeing if anyone on this list who has submitted dna actually does connect to my Clendinnen Lot in Australia
Regards
Cathy:)
Cathy,
I descend from Archibald Glendenning of Virginia.
I have done extensive research but have never been able to prove his
parentage.
First, forget spelling, it is all over the map. I have a will where the
name of the
deceased is spelled 3 different ways in his own will. Spelling was
optional until
about 1900 when spelling became a bit more organized. About 2000 or
earlier,
it seems to have started falling apart again, but I digress.
I have recently done the autosomal testing through Family Tree DNA. I
highly
recommend it for anyone. But it is the first DNA test that actually
links women
to real time relatives. I have almost a thousand matches and have found
some
helpful links.
I have used "23 and me" for my husband. That testing is geared more towards
health issues but does get some genealogy links.
I have friends who have used ancestry.com's autosomal testing. I like
FTDNA a
bit better for their matching setup. And ancestry.com is now known for
dropping
services--so who knows when they will drop their autosomal matching?
FTDNA and, I think, all the rest now charge about $99 US for the test.
I only have a few links on my Glendenning/Clendenning/Clendenen line and
would like to see
more.
Unfortunately, in my opinion, much of House of Glendonwyn is probably
bogus--just a compilation
of loose bits of facts, history, family tales, hearsay, and fantasy.
Honey Lanham Dodge, Texas
www.lanhamsource.com
is my website. Archibald is listed there as Clendenen which is the way
my end of the family started
spelling it.
On 8/3/2014 10:47 PM, Cathy Mkc via wrote:
> Gday:)
> Im in Australia my grandfather was Sydney Claude Ellis Clendinen his Father Samuel Alfred Clendinnen(born Ireland) his father William Clendinnen, his father John Clendinnen Born circa 1770 in Downpatrick Co Down He was a Wesleyan minister in Ireland retired to Bideford in Devon where he died in 1855
> At this stage parents unknown butttt We also have a Clindinning Line that came here too from Ireland
> Several of the Male lines in Both the Clendinnens and Clindinnings werte Doctors and Apothecaries in Ireland/England and Australia
> there were Dna samples sent thru from Clendinnen descendants Here in Australia which according to information and data in the Book House of Glendonwyn we connected to some of these Clendenins that went from Co Down to USA
> My grandfather also had a Copy of Book signed by Gerald Talbot clindinning Author of Book and he signed it my Cousin
> There apparently are some discrepancies in this book re data Gerald clindinning commissioned someone in Scotland to do the research into this family
> There is discrepancies re William glendinning marrying rose ann Kirkpatrick...This Marriage has not been found
>
> Also
>
> Apparently there is record in a library at kirkcudbright, in a *Family Tree
> of Glendoning Family*..that states
> *William Glendoning succeeded to Meggarland and Barcroft in the Parish Of
> Borgue in july 1690, He purchased the Estate at Quarterland in Co Down and
> died there in 1764
>
> this William who was a Protestant/Presbyterian married Rose Ann fisher in 1713 in killyleagh Co Down This marriage has been found by an English Clendinnen Researcher Patrick Bird he also found the Baptisms of their children
>
> the Clindinning line that came to Aus is thru Alexander Clindinning their son and several of his Male descendants were doctors My William clendinnen . my ggrandfathers Father was also an apothecary in Ireland Also one of Wiliams Sons who went to Canada john Deaker Clendinnen was also an Apothecary
>
> Wiliam clendinnens Brother john who went to NY for awhile was a Jeweller in Troy NY he then went to NZ and Died in Victoria Australia
>
> So im interested in making Contact with people on this list interested in researching this further and also the data in Book house of glendonwyn
>
> Remembering too going back in Scotland with this Glendinning Line some were Catholic , others were Presbyterian /Protestant...and also ive found in my own research re this lot with censuses etc several different ways to spell the name
>
> Cheers
> regards
> cathy:)
>
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Forgot to add With the Dna results from Male Clendinnens in Australia it showed little or no Connection to the Clendenins that went from Co down to USA Butt it did show a close connection to an Armstrong line who were in Co Down at same time and were also border Reivers
there were also Other clindinning Families in Co down at same time A joseph Clindinning married a Betty Mcelvoy circa mid 1700s Some of their Male descendants went to earlston Berwickshire In Scotland and then used the Surname Clendinnen
So back to square one with dna studies as the paper trail i.e House of Glendonwyn , some of that data may have been incorrect re being connected to the lot that went to USA from Co Down
Wonder if any of u have submitted DNA studies that perhaps connect to this Alexander Clindinning line or the joseph Clindinning line from Down
My sister submitted her dna to 23 and me Wonder if any of u on this list have done the same who have a clendinnen/clindinning/clendinning/glendinning etc direct line
regards
cathy:)
Gday:)
Im in Australia my grandfather was Sydney Claude Ellis Clendinen his Father Samuel Alfred Clendinnen(born Ireland) his father William Clendinnen, his father John Clendinnen Born circa 1770 in Downpatrick Co Down He was a Wesleyan minister in Ireland retired to Bideford in Devon where he died in 1855
At this stage parents unknown butttt We also have a Clindinning Line that came here too from Ireland
Several of the Male lines in Both the Clendinnens and Clindinnings werte Doctors and Apothecaries in Ireland/England and Australia
there were Dna samples sent thru from Clendinnen descendants Here in Australia which according to information and data in the Book House of Glendonwyn we connected to some of these Clendenins that went from Co Down to USA
My grandfather also had a Copy of Book signed by Gerald Talbot clindinning Author of Book and he signed it my Cousin
There apparently are some discrepancies in this book re data Gerald clindinning commissioned someone in Scotland to do the research into this family
There is discrepancies re William glendinning marrying rose ann Kirkpatrick...This Marriage has not been found
Also
Apparently there is record in a library at kirkcudbright, in a *Family Tree
of Glendoning Family*..that states
*William Glendoning succeeded to Meggarland and Barcroft in the Parish Of
Borgue in july 1690, He purchased the Estate at Quarterland in Co Down and
died there in 1764
this William who was a Protestant/Presbyterian married Rose Ann fisher in 1713 in killyleagh Co Down This marriage has been found by an English Clendinnen Researcher Patrick Bird he also found the Baptisms of their children
the Clindinning line that came to Aus is thru Alexander Clindinning their son and several of his Male descendants were doctors My William clendinnen . my ggrandfathers Father was also an apothecary in Ireland Also one of Wiliams Sons who went to Canada john Deaker Clendinnen was also an Apothecary
Wiliam clendinnens Brother john who went to NY for awhile was a Jeweller in Troy NY he then went to NZ and Died in Victoria Australia
So im interested in making Contact with people on this list interested in researching this further and also the data in Book house of glendonwyn
Remembering too going back in Scotland with this Glendinning Line some were Catholic , others were Presbyterian /Protestant...and also ive found in my own research re this lot with censuses etc several different ways to spell the name
Cheers
regards
cathy:)