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Alexander CLANDINNAN (CLANDENING, CLENDENAN, CLENDENNEN, CLENDINING,
CLINDINEN) in July 1798, was found guilty of Treason and Rebellion at
Newtownards and was sentenced to transportation for life. Others were not so
lucky and were executed. He was discharged from Postlethwaite Prison Ship
having found security to transport himself to America in September of the
same year. He appears to have made the voyage aboard the Peggy, as a letter
dated 13th June 1799, New York, published in the Belfast News-Letter, lists
several names of passengers expressing their gratitude to Captain Watson
"for his polite and humane attention to us during a voyage of 39 days, and
to our worthy friend and fellow passenger, Mr. John Caldwell, who charted
said vessel [etc. signed among others,] ALEX. CLINDINEN." There were 149
passengers on this voyage. The above information was gleaned from newspaper
articles in the Belfast News-Letter. Interesting reading!
Does anyone belong to this Alexander, or know more about him?
I found two references in the 1800 New York Census Index (compiler
Armstrong, Barbara Kay), but found only one image on Ancestry.com. I am
supposing this might be him. It reads:
1800 Census, New York City Ward 1, New York Co, New York, USA, Roll M32_23
(Ancestry.com)
p668: Alexander Clendennen; 1 male under 10; 1 male 16-25; 1 female under
10; 1 female 16-25; Total 4.
Three other references were found for "Alex" in the 1800 Census: Somerset
Twp, Washington Co, Sadsbury Twp, Chester Co and Peters Twp, Fayette Co, all
in Pennsylvania.
There are further "Alexander" found in the 1810-1840 Census, but they are
not in New York and quite likely connect to other Clendinen families in
Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina and Maryland, unless he linked up
with previously immigrated family.
I do have some other bits that may or not tie him to records in Co. Down but
will leave this for now as it just gets all rather too complicated to
explain and taxing to read! The short of this is that I'm not certain when
exactly he was born as I have thus far at least three possible parent
combinations that might belong to him back in Ireland.
Lee
I'm posting this in the off chance that there might be someone interested in
the research I did on John GLENDINNING, s/o John GLENDINNING and Martha
WEIR.
Using Scotlandspeople OPR Baptismal Index, I was able to locate [searching
"Glendinning" "Traditional Soundex"] 10 children to this couple, all
baptized in the Parish of Edinburgh, City of Edinburgh, Midlothian Co:
- Margaret Baptized 13/01/1676; d/o: John GLENDUNING & Martha WEIR
- William Baptized 10/01/1684; s/o: John GLENDINNING & Martha WEIR
- Catharin Baptized 30/08/1685; d/o: John GLENDINNING & Martha WEIR
- John Baptized 06/09/1686; d/o: John GLENDINNING & Martha WEIR
- James Baptized 20/03/1688; s/o: John GLENDINNING & Martha WEIR
- Anna Baptized 07/02/1693; d/o: John GLENDINNING & Martha WEIR
- Margaret Baptized 02/02/1694; d/o: John GLENDINNING & Martha WEIR
- Marie Baptized 22/02/1695; d/o: John GLENDINNING & Martha WEIR
- Jean Baptized 01/05/1698; d/o: John GLENDINNING & Martha WEIR
- William Baptized 06/05/1699; s/o: John GLENDINING & Martha WEIR
George Talbot CLINDENING, in Part XI of "The House of Glendonwyn." makes
reference to John GLENDINNING and his wife Martha WEIR, under 16LA. George
GLENINING in Edinburgh. He refers to John as a merchant burgess and to five
children [only one is named: "Jean"] who are buried in Greyfriars Kirkyard.
Ancestry.com indexed the "Register of Interments, Greyfriars, 1658-1700",
and I found the following. There were numerous other Glendinning listed, but
these are the ones I thought related best, as they name John a merchant and
these concur with GTC's research:
- Glendinning, John, merchant, a child 08 Sep 1684.
- Glendinning, John, merchant, his daughter Jean; Tod tomb 22 Apr 1685.
- Glendinning, John, merchant, a child; north alow 10 Jan 1693.
- Glendinning, John, merchant, a halflin; north alow 15 Mar 1700.
A fifth child GTC makes reference to, I was not able to locate: "a child, 11
February 1684".
Unfortunately, the register stops at 1700. I did a search on Scotlandspeople
for OPR Burials, but without looking up the individual records for further
identification, I was not able to connect any of the ones that were children
of "John" as being the same 'John" in the index listing.
I also searched several publications on Greyfriar's tombstones at the
reference library, but no Glendinning were found here.
What was odd was that I did not find "Jean" in the Baptisms, but then I did
not do a name search for "Clendinning" which may be another "Tradition
Soundex" search to check. I ran out of credits and can't afford to buy more
at the moment, so that will have to wait!
The short of all this is that I finally concluded that the halflin that died
in 1700 appears to be the John baptized in 1686, as he would be about 14
years old:
Originally, "Halfling" was the
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language> Scots word hauflin, pre-dating
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit> The Hobbit and Dungeons & Dragons.
It meant an awkward rustic teenager, who is neither man nor boy, and so half
of both. ( <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfling>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfling)
So, I'm about 99% sure this haflin is John.
If GTC has his research correct, John Sr.'s lands passed on to Coltharts and
his sister Susanna married a Colthart; I've been able to verify that he did
have a sister Susanna [baptism]. It might then imply that none of the
children survived John Sr. and his wife Martha.she died in 1720.unless they
had a daughter that married a Colthart.
Lee
May I inject a note? My husband is descended from the Clendinnen line.
Received this
information a long time ago but thought it might be something to check.
Old Parochial Register, Edinburgh, Scotland--online
George Glendunning married Eupham Nisbet 20 Dec 1649. They had 7 children 1
was
John born 28 Oct 1656 married Martha Wier--8 children 1 was John born 6 Sep
1686.
This is not our line so have no other info except names of other children
and birth
dates.
Barb
----Original Message-----
From: marsha moses
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:37 PM
To: clendinen(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CLENDINEN] [GLENDINNING] John GLENDINNIN of Freehold,East
Jersey, America ca. 1723-1734
Lee, I can remember having talked about this on this mail list many years
ago....so I took a look at the archives and found the following:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/clendenin/2008-02/1203301207
I went to:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search
and put clendenin in the mail list space and tried transported as the key
word.....you might try some other keywords to see if you can find more....I
almost for sure remember some discussion on Dobson's lists and ....hmmmm
just can't do it from memory.
marsha moses
On May 24, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Lee Dickson <lee.dickson(a)sympatico.ca> wrote:
> John GLENDINNIN, of the Town of Freehold, Blacksmith, for fifty pounds
> bought 80 acres of land in the Township of Freehold in the County of
> Manmouth from Adam HUDE, Gentleman of Woodbridge, Co. Middlesex, in 1723.
> In
> 1734, John GLANDINNON sold the same in 1734 to Francis Van SCHAIACK of
> Freehold, Farmer. [copy of Deeds from FHL Film]
>
> John would therefore be born prior to 1702. Can anyone clarify who he is
> and
> where he came from? From what I've researched in American records, he
> appears to be the oldest of the "Johns" found in early America? I wonder
> if
> he may be the same as noted in:
>
>
>
> Jacobites of the '15. David Dobson. 1993, p31
>
>
>
> "GLINDINNING, John, transported from Liverpool to Jamaica or Virginia on
> the
> Elizabeth and Anne 29.6.1716, landed in Virginia. (CTB.31.208)
> (SPC.1716.310) (VSP.1.185)"
>
> Any input towards identifying him would be most appreciated.
>
>
>
> Lee Dickson
>
>
>
>
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