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I have today posted additional results to the project page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~clendin/comparison_chart_4.htm
We still need to locate and test one or more descendants of Archibald Clendenin, sons Archibald Jr. and John of Virginia.
We still need to locate and test one or more descendants of Robert who was born in 1810 in Ireland and who immigrated to America settling in Indiana.
Since it would be helpful to have at least three descendants from each line I'm also looking for a male Clendenin descendant of Charles Clendenin (VA); John who died in OH; a descendant of William of NC from another son --we have descendants from Fisher and Joseph; also another descendant of a son of James and Margaret Anderson Clendenin, as well as others.
If you would like to discuss any of these findings, please send your message to Clendenin-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com. We can hold a fuller discussion at that mailing list.
Thank you,
Sharon
Marina, In 1956 Mildred Midjaas took me to visit the old Clendenin farm in
Randolph County, IL. The original buildings were all gone but some of the
foundations showed where they stood. A large pear tree was still producing
fruit. Mildred said it was from an original scion brought from Kentucky by
John Clendenin.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marina Dececo" <mdececo(a)gmail.com>
To: "Donald E Clendenin" <donclend(a)positech.net>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Re:
> Don, I didn't read very carefully the first time and it looks like the
> children she mentions belong to William McDonald and Abigail Clendenin
> and not William Clendenin. I saw what my eyes wanted me to see and I
> apologize for mixing them up. My William Clendenen did have two sons,
> Theodore and Hazard Perry and did take flatboats to New Orleans from
> Greene County.
>
> It's too bad the original history was lost.
>
> Also the bit about the apple trees is interesting. I distant cousin
> wrote a little history about the KY Clendenens (from Robert) and said
> my great grandfather, Samuel Clendenen was the first person to bring
> apple trees to Illinois. After reading Samuel's military pension
> application it turns out he was pruning apple trees in Greene County!
> Beside which, he didn't arrive there until after 1865 and I'm sure
> someone had the foresight to plant some applle trees much earlier than
> that!
>
> Marina
>
> On 10/23/05, Donald E Clendenin <donclend(a)positech.net> wrote:
>> Marina, One of my problems is that Nancy does not say specifically that
>> "Theodore and Perry" were descendants of the "William who went to
>> Missouri."
>> If that's not what she meant, why mention them? But still it's now
>> certain
>> what she meant.
>>
>> Don
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marina Dececo" <mdececo(a)gmail.com>
>> To: <CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: Re:
>>
>>
>> > Whoops, I mispoke. I missed a paragraph between George Clendenen and
>> > the two sons of William and Abigail McDonald, whose two sons were
>> > given the same names as George's two sons. George also took produce
>> > and animals to New Orleans by flatboat so the stories are similar.
>> >
>> > Marina
>> >
>> > On 10/23/05, Marina Dececo <mdececo(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I have a George Washington Clendenen who was the brother to my
>> >> ancestor, Thomas Jefferson Clendenen and son of Robert Clendenen and
>> >> Margaret Fletcher. George was born in Greenbrier, VA about 1779 and
>> >> did move to Missouri about 1820. I have him selling land in Bourbon
>> >> Co, KY in 1817 but he's still on the tax rolls in 1819 and is on the
>> >> 1820 census in Bourbon Co. He's listed in Montgomery Co, MO as a
>> >> taxpayer from 1819-1825 and in 1826 bought land in Greene County, IL.
>> >> Family lore and other sources say he was in MO in 1819. George did
>> >> have two sons, Hazard Perry Clendenen and Theodore Clendenen. My great
>> >> grandfather, Samuel Palmer Clendenen lived with Hazard's family from
>> >> 1865 to 1880, when Hazard died. So....I think this Nancy Mann has her
>> >> George Clendenens mixed up.
>> >>
>> >> Marina Dececo
>> >>
>> >> On 10/23/05, Sharon Bryant <SharonBryant(a)cox.net> wrote:
>> >> > Don,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question and thank
>> >> > you
>> >> > for
>> >> > taking the time to post "Nancy's 'History'." I appreciate your
>> >> > hesitation
>> >> > given the errors of which you were aware.
>> >> >
>> >> > <sigh> I had anticipated the answer you gave in response to the
>> >> > question I
>> >> > put to you regarding why you decided to post the material at this
>> >> > time.
>> >> >
>> >> > I would like to remind those on the list who have had the DNA
>> >> > testing
>> >> > done
>> >> > or who have considered having DNA testing of the following:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. Y-DNA testing is a "tool" just like the census reports, primary
>> >> > evidentiary records, and family stories.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. Y-DNA testing gives the participant the bloodlines of himself,
>> >> > his
>> >> > father, his father's father, his father's father's father, ad
>> >> > nauseum.
>> >> >
>> >> > 3. The blood lines do not lie. They are what they are and nothing
>> >> > can
>> >> > change
>> >> > that.
>> >> >
>> >> > The problem seems to lie in the comparison of the results of two
>> >> > different
>> >> > individuals. If they believe they are related based on "documented
>> >> > history"
>> >> > but the Y-DNA results do not prove that relationship then the fault
>> >> > lies in
>> >> > the "documented history" not the DNA results.
>> >> >
>> >> > Your initial response to my question (below) is only one of the
>> >> > errors
>> >> > contained in the mss. I do not fault Nancy Mann for the errors. The
>> >> > statement "Nancy's original 'history' was lost and this is what she
>> >> > could
>> >> > remember many years later. In a letter dated June 2, 1907 Nancy's
>> >> > daughter,
>> >> > Sade Mann complained about "so elderly lady having to rewrite her
>> >> > history
>> >> > because of someone's carelessness." explains why there could be
>> >> > errors
>> >> > in
>> >> > what has been passed down.
>> >> >
>> >> > "1790 John Clendenin and family, William Clendenin, a brother of
>> >> > John
>> >> > and Wm
>> >> > Sympson who was the husband of Rebecca Clendenin, a sister of John
>> >> > and
>> >> > William, moved from Westmoreland County, Virginia to Green County,
>> >> > Kentucky
>> >> > where John and family remained until 1811 when they came to Randolph
>> >> > County,
>> >> > Illinois."
>> >> >
>> >> > This statement leads to confusion due to a lack of explanation of
>> >> > complete
>> >> > relationship of these people to one another. Again, it might have
>> >> > been
>> >> > clear
>> >> > to Nancy Mann, but it is not necessarily clear to those of us who
>> >> > have
>> >> > read
>> >> > the statement nearly 100 years later.
>> >> >
>> >> > I can go no further with this. I do not have the resources of any
>> >> > kind
>> >> > to
>> >> > repeat the research in order to clarify what Ms. Mann meant when she
>> >> > laid
>> >> > her history to paper the second time.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sharon
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Donald E Clendenin" <donclend(a)positech.net>
>> >> > To: <CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 2:00 AM
>> >> > Subject: Re: Re:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > Sharon,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I've had received several questions about the William Clendenin
>> >> > > who
>> >> > > "went to Missouri" and the William who married Helen Elender
>> >> > > Fowler.
>> >> > > I
>> >> > > don't know if there was one 'William' or two. I've often thought
>> >> > > about
>> >> > > posting Nancy's 'History' and hesitated because I know of many
>> >> > > errors, the
>> >> > > most serious one being that "Henry was the father of (my ancestor)
>> >> > > John. I
>> >> > > decided to post the MS with the warning that it contained errors
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > leave
>> >> > > it for everyone interested to decide what to accept.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Don.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > From: "Sharon Bryant" <SharonBryant(a)cox.net>
>> >> > > To: "Donald E Clendenin" <donclend(a)positech.net>
>> >> > > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 6:27 PM
>> >> > > Subject: Re:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Don,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Did you have a particular purpose in posting this? Was it done at
>> >> > >> the
>> >> > >> request of someone else?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Sharon
>> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >> From: "Donald E Clendenin" <donclend(a)positech.net>
>> >> > >> To: <CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> >> > >> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:45 PM
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> Nancy (Clendenin) Mann's "Family History"
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> From the handwritten copy made by Mildred Midjaas, Carbondale,
>> >> > >>> Illinois.
>> >> > >>> I know of several errors in this paper. I am submitting it
>> >> > >>> exactly
>> >> > >>> as I
>> >> > >>> received it from Mildred. D.E.C. Nancy's granddaughter, Mildred
>> >> > >>> Midjaas
>> >> > >>> agreed with me that the Henry mentioned as a brother of Charles
>> >> > >>> was
>> >> > >>> in
>> >> > >>> fact Henry Sympson, grandfather of John Clendenin's wife, Mary
>> >> > >>> Sympson.
>> >> > >>> James and John Clendenin emmigrated from Virginia to Sullivan
>> >> > >>> County,
>> >> > >>> TN. and later to Kentucky. Proven by record books and land
>> >> > >>> deeds.
>> >> > >>> The
>> >> > >>> date John Clendenin and family moved to Randolph County, IL was
>> >> > >>> 1809;
>> >> > >>> they sold the Kentucky farm May, 1809 and were in the Illinois
>> >> > >>> Census of
>> >> > >>> 1810. Nancy's original 'history' was lost and this is what she
>> >> > >>> could
>> >> > >>> remember many years later. In a letter dated June 2, 1907
>> >> > >>> Nancy's
>> >> > >>> daughter, Sade Mann complained about "so elderly lady having to
>> >> > >>> rewrite
>> >> > >>> her history because of someone's carelessness."
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> "Henry and Charles Clendenin came from Dumfires, Scotland to
>> >> > >>> Westmoreland County, Virginia in the early part of the
>> >> > >>> seventeenth
>> >> > >>> century, the date of their arrival is not known, but John
>> >> > >>> Clendenin, a
>> >> > >>> son of Henry was born in Virginia and was old enough to serve in
>> >> > >>> the
>> >> > >>> Revolutionary War he served in a Virginia Regiment... He married
>> >> > >>> Mary
>> >> > >>> Sympson and to them was born eight children, Henry, William,
>> >> > >>> James,
>> >> > >>> Margaret, John, Nancy, Harvey and Maria. 1790 John Clendenin and
>> >> > >>> family,
>> >> > >>> William Clendenin, a brother of John and Wm Sympson who was the
>> >> > >>> husband
>> >> > >>> of Rebecca Clendenin, a sister of John and William, moved from
>> >> > >>> Westmoreland County, Virginia to Green County, Kentucky where
>> >> > >>> John
>> >> > >>> and
>> >> > >>> family remained until 1811 when they came to Randolph County,
>> >> > >>> Illinois.
>> >> > >>> The Sympsons remained in Kentucky. William Clendenin moved to
>> >> > >>> Missouri
>> >> > >>> where he raised a family. The second marriage that is recorded
>> >> > >>> in
>> >> > >>> Pulaski County, Missouri was that of Wm McDonald and Abigail
>> >> > >>> Clendenin,
>> >> > >>> they were married by Is!
>> >> > >>> aac Clark, J. P. 1833. This family had two sons named Theodore
>> >> > >>> and
>> >> > >>> Perry
>> >> > >>> who in 1844 live in Illinois, perhaps Green County. They were
>> >> > >>> engaged in
>> >> > >>> farming and stock raising, took their cattle, hogs, etc. to New
>> >> > >>> Orleans
>> >> > >>> by steamboat to market.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> John Clendenin and family consisting of his wife, himself and
>> >> > >>> five
>> >> > >>> sons
>> >> > >>> and three daughters, also his son-in-law George Gaddie and
>> >> > >>> family
>> >> > >>> consisting of his wife, two children, and a colored man and
>> >> > >>> woman
>> >> > >>> who
>> >> > >>> belonged to Gaddie. (This was when Illinois was under
>> >> > >>> Territorial
>> >> > >>> government and slavery was permitted in the territory.) The
>> >> > >>> Clendenin
>> >> > >>> Family left their Kentucky home in the month of November 1811
>> >> > >>> and
>> >> > >>> commenced their journey to Illinois. They traveled in wagons,
>> >> > >>> and
>> >> > >>> on
>> >> > >>> horseback, as there were no steamboats on the Ohio or
>> >> > >>> Mississippi
>> >> > >>> at
>> >> > >>> that date.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> The moving family camped for the night at the close of the
>> >> > >>> first
>> >> > >>> day's
>> >> > >>> journey, prepared supper and got ready to rest, when the father
>> >> > >>> in
>> >> > >>> looking over baggage discovered that they had left a bundle of
>> >> > >>> apple
>> >> > >>> scions, whi8ch they had prepared to bring with them. The next
>> >> > >>> morning,
>> >> > >>> John, the third son, 17 years old who had a fine saddle horse
>> >> > >>> was
>> >> > >>> sent
>> >> > >>> back to get the apple trees. The family remained in camp until
>> >> > >>> he
>> >> > >>> returned. The family reached Kaskaskia in the month of December,
>> >> > >>> rested
>> >> > >>> their team and looked round for a place to locate. They were
>> >> > >>> farmers and
>> >> > >>> commenced farm life on a tract of land where the town of Chester
>> >> > >>> is
>> >> > >>> situated, the part known as Buena Vista. There were 4 sons, the
>> >> > >>> son-in-law Gaddie, the Father and the colored man. They went to
>> >> > >>> work to
>> >> > >>> make themselves comfortable in their new home, built a dwelling
>> >> > >>> house
>> >> > >>> for the family, stables for the horses, planted the apple trees
>> >> > >>> which
>> >> > >>> they had brought from Kentucky with them. They were comfortable
>> >> > >>> in
>> >> > >>> their
>> >> > >>> new home u!
>> >> > >>> ntil the autumn of 1813 when the family was stricken with an
>> >> > >>> epidemic of
>> >> > >>> typhus fever. Henry, the oldest son aged 25 years, Margaret, the
>> >> > >>> married
>> >> > >>> daughter, William, the third son and their mother all died and
>> >> > >>> were
>> >> > >>> buried in what is now the Chester cemetery, perhaps the first
>> >> > >>> burials
>> >> > >>> made on the place. These were sad days for the Clendenins they
>> >> > >>> perhaps
>> >> > >>> thought many times of their old Kentucky home. Soon after this
>> >> > >>> Gaddie
>> >> > >>> took his team, his colored folks, and his children and went back
>> >> > >>> to
>> >> > >>> Kentucky where he lived to old age, his son, Buford in 1836 came
>> >> > >>> back to
>> >> > >>> visit his Clendenin relation and took malaria and died at the
>> >> > >>> home
>> >> > >>> of
>> >> > >>> his Uncle Harvey Clendenin is buried in the Ebenezer Cemetery.
>> >> > >>> James
>> >> > >>> Clendenin married Margaret Herd who died leaving three sons; Wm.
>> >> > >>> Sympson, John Herd and James. James died when 18 years old.
>> >> > >>> Sympson
>> >> > >>> married a Miss Oliver who died leaving two children, Emeline and
>> >> > >>> Calvin
>> >> > >>> Clendenin. After the death of his Oliver wife, Sympson married a
>> >> > >>> widow
>> >> > >>> Mann to!
>> >> > >>> them was born a family. They went to Stockton, California where
>> >> > >>> Symps
>> >> > >>> on died. His descendants live in California. Emeline married a
>> >> > >>> Mr.
>> >> > >>> ___
>> >> > >>> She is now dead. John Herd Clendenin married Mary Elizabeth
>> >> > >>> Vickers.
>> >> > >>> Their children who lived to maturity were Wm. Harvey, Moses
>> >> > >>> Walter,
>> >> > >>> Margaret Ann, Sarah Jane, Content Elizabeth, Joseph H. Benjamin
>> >> > >>> H.
>> >> > >>> and
>> >> > >>> Lettie. William Harvey was a merchant married Emily Jones, died
>> >> > >>> in
>> >> > >>> Kansas City leaving two sons and one daughter. The eldest son
>> >> > >>> resides in
>> >> > >>> Chicago, Illinois, second, Roscoe Turner lives in Atchison,
>> >> > >>> Kansas, is
>> >> > >>> a dealer in woolen wares. The daughter Daisy is the wife of
>> >> > >>> Bower
>> >> > >>> of
>> >> > >>> Kansas City. Moses Walter Clendenin was a physician, graduated
>> >> > >>> from
>> >> > >>> Jefferson Medical College, married Lydia Wagoner. They were the
>> >> > >>> parents
>> >> > >>> of two sons and two daughters. Ernest, the oldest is a railroad
>> >> > >>> man,
>> >> > >>> his home is now in St. Louis, Mo."
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> END OF MANUSCRIPT
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
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>> >> > >>> Don't forget to check out the Clendenin Family Research Website
>> >> > >>> at
>> >> > >>> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~clendin
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>
I have a George Washington Clendenen who was the brother to my
ancestor, Thomas Jefferson Clendenen and son of Robert Clendenen and
Margaret Fletcher. George was born in Greenbrier, VA about 1779 and
did move to Missouri about 1820. I have him selling land in Bourbon
Co, KY in 1817 but he's still on the tax rolls in 1819 and is on the
1820 census in Bourbon Co. He's listed in Montgomery Co, MO as a
taxpayer from 1819-1825 and in 1826 bought land in Greene County, IL.
Family lore and other sources say he was in MO in 1819. George did
have two sons, Hazard Perry Clendenen and Theodore Clendenen. My great
grandfather, Samuel Palmer Clendenen lived with Hazard's family from
1865 to 1880, when Hazard died. So....I think this Nancy Mann has her
George Clendenens mixed up.
Marina Dececo
On 10/23/05, Sharon Bryant <SharonBryant(a)cox.net> wrote:
> Don,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question and thank you for
> taking the time to post "Nancy's 'History'." I appreciate your hesitation
> given the errors of which you were aware.
>
> <sigh> I had anticipated the answer you gave in response to the question I
> put to you regarding why you decided to post the material at this time.
>
> I would like to remind those on the list who have had the DNA testing done
> or who have considered having DNA testing of the following:
>
> 1. Y-DNA testing is a "tool" just like the census reports, primary
> evidentiary records, and family stories.
>
> 2. Y-DNA testing gives the participant the bloodlines of himself, his
> father, his father's father, his father's father's father, ad nauseum.
>
> 3. The blood lines do not lie. They are what they are and nothing can change
> that.
>
> The problem seems to lie in the comparison of the results of two different
> individuals. If they believe they are related based on "documented history"
> but the Y-DNA results do not prove that relationship then the fault lies in
> the "documented history" not the DNA results.
>
> Your initial response to my question (below) is only one of the errors
> contained in the mss. I do not fault Nancy Mann for the errors. The
> statement "Nancy's original 'history' was lost and this is what she could
> remember many years later. In a letter dated June 2, 1907 Nancy's daughter,
> Sade Mann complained about "so elderly lady having to rewrite her history
> because of someone's carelessness." explains why there could be errors in
> what has been passed down.
>
> "1790 John Clendenin and family, William Clendenin, a brother of John and Wm
> Sympson who was the husband of Rebecca Clendenin, a sister of John and
> William, moved from Westmoreland County, Virginia to Green County, Kentucky
> where John and family remained until 1811 when they came to Randolph County,
> Illinois."
>
> This statement leads to confusion due to a lack of explanation of complete
> relationship of these people to one another. Again, it might have been clear
> to Nancy Mann, but it is not necessarily clear to those of us who have read
> the statement nearly 100 years later.
>
> I can go no further with this. I do not have the resources of any kind to
> repeat the research in order to clarify what Ms. Mann meant when she laid
> her history to paper the second time.
>
> Sharon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald E Clendenin" <donclend(a)positech.net>
> To: <CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 2:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Re:
>
>
> > Sharon,
> >
> > I've had received several questions about the William Clendenin who
> > "went to Missouri" and the William who married Helen Elender Fowler. I
> > don't know if there was one 'William' or two. I've often thought about
> > posting Nancy's 'History' and hesitated because I know of many errors, the
> > most serious one being that "Henry was the father of (my ancestor) John. I
> > decided to post the MS with the warning that it contained errors and leave
> > it for everyone interested to decide what to accept.
> >
> > Don.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sharon Bryant" <SharonBryant(a)cox.net>
> > To: "Donald E Clendenin" <donclend(a)positech.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 6:27 PM
> > Subject: Re:
> >
> >
> >> Don,
> >>
> >> Did you have a particular purpose in posting this? Was it done at the
> >> request of someone else?
> >>
> >> Sharon
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Donald E Clendenin" <donclend(a)positech.net>
> >> To: <CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:45 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>> Nancy (Clendenin) Mann's "Family History"
> >>>
> >>> From the handwritten copy made by Mildred Midjaas, Carbondale, Illinois.
> >>> I know of several errors in this paper. I am submitting it exactly as I
> >>> received it from Mildred. D.E.C. Nancy's granddaughter, Mildred Midjaas
> >>> agreed with me that the Henry mentioned as a brother of Charles was in
> >>> fact Henry Sympson, grandfather of John Clendenin's wife, Mary Sympson.
> >>> James and John Clendenin emmigrated from Virginia to Sullivan County,
> >>> TN. and later to Kentucky. Proven by record books and land deeds. The
> >>> date John Clendenin and family moved to Randolph County, IL was 1809;
> >>> they sold the Kentucky farm May, 1809 and were in the Illinois Census of
> >>> 1810. Nancy's original 'history' was lost and this is what she could
> >>> remember many years later. In a letter dated June 2, 1907 Nancy's
> >>> daughter, Sade Mann complained about "so elderly lady having to rewrite
> >>> her history because of someone's carelessness."
> >>>
> >>> "Henry and Charles Clendenin came from Dumfires, Scotland to
> >>> Westmoreland County, Virginia in the early part of the seventeenth
> >>> century, the date of their arrival is not known, but John Clendenin, a
> >>> son of Henry was born in Virginia and was old enough to serve in the
> >>> Revolutionary War he served in a Virginia Regiment... He married Mary
> >>> Sympson and to them was born eight children, Henry, William, James,
> >>> Margaret, John, Nancy, Harvey and Maria. 1790 John Clendenin and family,
> >>> William Clendenin, a brother of John and Wm Sympson who was the husband
> >>> of Rebecca Clendenin, a sister of John and William, moved from
> >>> Westmoreland County, Virginia to Green County, Kentucky where John and
> >>> family remained until 1811 when they came to Randolph County, Illinois.
> >>> The Sympsons remained in Kentucky. William Clendenin moved to Missouri
> >>> where he raised a family. The second marriage that is recorded in
> >>> Pulaski County, Missouri was that of Wm McDonald and Abigail Clendenin,
> >>> they were married by Is!
> >>> aac Clark, J. P. 1833. This family had two sons named Theodore and Perry
> >>> who in 1844 live in Illinois, perhaps Green County. They were engaged in
> >>> farming and stock raising, took their cattle, hogs, etc. to New Orleans
> >>> by steamboat to market.
> >>>
> >>> John Clendenin and family consisting of his wife, himself and five sons
> >>> and three daughters, also his son-in-law George Gaddie and family
> >>> consisting of his wife, two children, and a colored man and woman who
> >>> belonged to Gaddie. (This was when Illinois was under Territorial
> >>> government and slavery was permitted in the territory.) The Clendenin
> >>> Family left their Kentucky home in the month of November 1811 and
> >>> commenced their journey to Illinois. They traveled in wagons, and on
> >>> horseback, as there were no steamboats on the Ohio or Mississippi at
> >>> that date.
> >>>
> >>> The moving family camped for the night at the close of the first day's
> >>> journey, prepared supper and got ready to rest, when the father in
> >>> looking over baggage discovered that they had left a bundle of apple
> >>> scions, whi8ch they had prepared to bring with them. The next morning,
> >>> John, the third son, 17 years old who had a fine saddle horse was sent
> >>> back to get the apple trees. The family remained in camp until he
> >>> returned. The family reached Kaskaskia in the month of December, rested
> >>> their team and looked round for a place to locate. They were farmers and
> >>> commenced farm life on a tract of land where the town of Chester is
> >>> situated, the part known as Buena Vista. There were 4 sons, the
> >>> son-in-law Gaddie, the Father and the colored man. They went to work to
> >>> make themselves comfortable in their new home, built a dwelling house
> >>> for the family, stables for the horses, planted the apple trees which
> >>> they had brought from Kentucky with them. They were comfortable in their
> >>> new home u!
> >>> ntil the autumn of 1813 when the family was stricken with an epidemic of
> >>> typhus fever. Henry, the oldest son aged 25 years, Margaret, the married
> >>> daughter, William, the third son and their mother all died and were
> >>> buried in what is now the Chester cemetery, perhaps the first burials
> >>> made on the place. These were sad days for the Clendenins they perhaps
> >>> thought many times of their old Kentucky home. Soon after this Gaddie
> >>> took his team, his colored folks, and his children and went back to
> >>> Kentucky where he lived to old age, his son, Buford in 1836 came back to
> >>> visit his Clendenin relation and took malaria and died at the home of
> >>> his Uncle Harvey Clendenin is buried in the Ebenezer Cemetery. James
> >>> Clendenin married Margaret Herd who died leaving three sons; Wm.
> >>> Sympson, John Herd and James. James died when 18 years old. Sympson
> >>> married a Miss Oliver who died leaving two children, Emeline and Calvin
> >>> Clendenin. After the death of his Oliver wife, Sympson married a widow
> >>> Mann to!
> >>> them was born a family. They went to Stockton, California where Symps
> >>> on died. His descendants live in California. Emeline married a Mr. ___
> >>> She is now dead. John Herd Clendenin married Mary Elizabeth Vickers.
> >>> Their children who lived to maturity were Wm. Harvey, Moses Walter,
> >>> Margaret Ann, Sarah Jane, Content Elizabeth, Joseph H. Benjamin H. and
> >>> Lettie. William Harvey was a merchant married Emily Jones, died in
> >>> Kansas City leaving two sons and one daughter. The eldest son resides in
> >>> Chicago, Illinois, second, Roscoe Turner lives in Atchison, Kansas, is
> >>> a dealer in woolen wares. The daughter Daisy is the wife of Bower of
> >>> Kansas City. Moses Walter Clendenin was a physician, graduated from
> >>> Jefferson Medical College, married Lydia Wagoner. They were the parents
> >>> of two sons and two daughters. Ernest, the oldest is a railroad man,
> >>> his home is now in St. Louis, Mo."
> >>>
> >>> END OF MANUSCRIPT
> >>>
> >>>
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Sharon,
I've had received several questions about the William Clendenin who
"went to Missouri" and the William who married Helen Elender Fowler. I don't
know if there was one 'William' or two. I've often thought about posting
Nancy's 'History' and hesitated because I know of many errors, the most
serious one being that "Henry was the father of (my ancestor) John. I
decided to post the MS with the warning that it contained errors and leave
it for everyone interested to decide what to accept.
Don.
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To: "Donald E Clendenin" <donclend(a)positech.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 6:27 PM
Subject: Re:
> Don,
>
> Did you have a particular purpose in posting this? Was it done at the
> request of someone else?
>
> Sharon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald E Clendenin" <donclend(a)positech.net>
> To: <CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:45 PM
>
>
>> Nancy (Clendenin) Mann’s “Family History”
>>
>> From the handwritten copy made by Mildred Midjaas, Carbondale, Illinois.
>> I know of several errors in this paper. I am submitting it exactly as I
>> received it from Mildred. D.E.C. Nancy’s granddaughter, Mildred Midjaas
>> agreed with me that the Henry mentioned as a brother of Charles was in
>> fact Henry Sympson, grandfather of John Clendenin’s wife, Mary Sympson.
>> James and John Clendenin emmigrated from Virginia to Sullivan County, TN.
>> and later to Kentucky. Proven by record books and land deeds. The date
>> John Clendenin and family moved to Randolph County, IL was 1809; they
>> sold the Kentucky farm May, 1809 and were in the Illinois Census of 1810.
>> Nancy’s original ‘history’ was lost and this is what she could remember
>> many years later. In a letter dated June 2, 1907 Nancy’s daughter, Sade
>> Mann complained about “so elderly lady having to rewrite her history
>> because of someone’s carelessness.”
>>
>> “Henry and Charles Clendenin came from Dumfires, Scotland to Westmoreland
>> County, Virginia in the early part of the seventeenth century, the date
>> of their arrival is not known, but John Clendenin, a son of Henry was
>> born in Virginia and was old enough to serve in the Revolutionary War he
>> served in a Virginia Regiment... He married Mary Sympson and to them was
>> born eight children, Henry, William, James, Margaret, John, Nancy, Harvey
>> and Maria. 1790 John Clendenin and family, William Clendenin, a brother
>> of John and Wm Sympson who was the husband of Rebecca Clendenin, a sister
>> of John and William, moved from Westmoreland County, Virginia to Green
>> County, Kentucky where John and family remained until 1811 when they came
>> to Randolph County, Illinois. The Sympsons remained in Kentucky. William
>> Clendenin moved to Missouri where he raised a family. The second marriage
>> that is recorded in Pulaski County, Missouri was that of Wm McDonald and
>> Abigail Clendenin, they were married by Is!
>> aac Clark, J. P. 1833. This family had two sons named Theodore and Perry
>> who in 1844 live in Illinois, perhaps Green County. They were engaged in
>> farming and stock raising, took their cattle, hogs, etc. to New Orleans
>> by steamboat to market.
>>
>> John Clendenin and family consisting of his wife, himself and five sons
>> and three daughters, also his son-in-law George Gaddie and family
>> consisting of his wife, two children, and a colored man and woman who
>> belonged to Gaddie. (This was when Illinois was under Territorial
>> government and slavery was permitted in the territory.) The Clendenin
>> Family left their Kentucky home in the month of November 1811 and
>> commenced their journey to Illinois. They traveled in wagons, and on
>> horseback, as there were no steamboats on the Ohio or Mississippi at that
>> date.
>>
>> The moving family camped for the night at the close of the first day’s
>> journey, prepared supper and got ready to rest, when the father in
>> looking over baggage discovered that they had left a bundle of apple
>> scions, whi8ch they had prepared to bring with them. The next morning,
>> John, the third son, 17 years old who had a fine saddle horse was sent
>> back to get the apple trees. The family remained in camp until he
>> returned. The family reached Kaskaskia in the month of December, rested
>> their team and looked round for a place to locate. They were farmers and
>> commenced farm life on a tract of land where the town of Chester is
>> situated, the part known as Buena Vista. There were 4 sons, the
>> son-in-law Gaddie, the Father and the colored man. They went to work to
>> make themselves comfortable in their new home, built a dwelling house for
>> the family, stables for the horses, planted the apple trees which they
>> had brought from Kentucky with them. They were comfortable in their new
>> home u!
>> ntil the autumn of 1813 when the family was stricken with an epidemic of
>> typhus fever. Henry, the oldest son aged 25 years, Margaret, the married
>> daughter, William, the third son and their mother all died and were
>> buried in what is now the Chester cemetery, perhaps the first burials
>> made on the place. These were sad days for the Clendenins they perhaps
>> thought many times of their old Kentucky home. Soon after this Gaddie
>> took his team, his colored folks, and his children and went back to
>> Kentucky where he lived to old age, his son, Buford in 1836 came back to
>> visit his Clendenin relation and took malaria and died at the home of his
>> Uncle Harvey Clendenin is buried in the Ebenezer Cemetery. James
>> Clendenin married Margaret Herd who died leaving three sons; Wm. Sympson,
>> John Herd and James. James died when 18 years old. Sympson married a Miss
>> Oliver who died leaving two children, Emeline and Calvin Clendenin. After
>> the death of his Oliver wife, Sympson married a widow Mann to!
>> them was born a family. They went to Stockton, California where Symps
>> on died. His descendants live in California. Emeline married a Mr. ___
>> She is now dead. John Herd Clendenin married Mary Elizabeth Vickers.
>> Their children who lived to maturity were Wm. Harvey, Moses Walter,
>> Margaret Ann, Sarah Jane, Content Elizabeth, Joseph H. Benjamin H. and
>> Lettie. William Harvey was a merchant married Emily Jones, died in Kansas
>> City leaving two sons and one daughter. The eldest son resides in
>> Chicago, Illinois, second, Roscoe Turner lives in Atchison, Kansas, is a
>> dealer in woolen wares. The daughter Daisy is the wife of Bower of Kansas
>> City. Moses Walter Clendenin was a physician, graduated from Jefferson
>> Medical College, married Lydia Wagoner. They were the parents of two
>> sons and two daughters. Ernest, the oldest is a railroad man, his home is
>> now in St. Louis, Mo.”
>>
>> END OF MANUSCRIPT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==== CLENDINEN Mailing List ====
>> Don't forget to check out the Clendenin Family Research Website at
>> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~clendin
>>
>> ==============================
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>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more:
>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
>>
>>
>
>
Nancy (Clendenin) Mann’s “Family History”
From the handwritten copy made by Mildred Midjaas, Carbondale, Illinois. I know of several errors in this paper. I am submitting it exactly as I received it from Mildred. D.E.C. Nancy’s granddaughter, Mildred Midjaas agreed with me that the Henry mentioned as a brother of Charles was in fact Henry Sympson, grandfather of John Clendenin’s wife, Mary Sympson. James and John Clendenin emmigrated from Virginia to Sullivan County, TN. and later to Kentucky. Proven by record books and land deeds. The date John Clendenin and family moved to Randolph County, IL was 1809; they sold the Kentucky farm May, 1809 and were in the Illinois Census of 1810. Nancy’s original ‘history’ was lost and this is what she could remember many years later. In a letter dated June 2, 1907 Nancy’s daughter, Sade Mann complained about “so elderly lady having to rewrite her history because of someone’s carelessness.”
“Henry and Charles Clendenin came from Dumfires, Scotland to Westmoreland County, Virginia in the early part of the seventeenth century, the date of their arrival is not known, but John Clendenin, a son of Henry was born in Virginia and was old enough to serve in the Revolutionary War he served in a Virginia Regiment... He married Mary Sympson and to them was born eight children, Henry, William, James, Margaret, John, Nancy, Harvey and Maria. 1790 John Clendenin and family, William Clendenin, a brother of John and Wm Sympson who was the husband of Rebecca Clendenin, a sister of John and William, moved from Westmoreland County, Virginia to Green County, Kentucky where John and family remained until 1811 when they came to Randolph County, Illinois. The Sympsons remained in Kentucky. William Clendenin moved to Missouri where he raised a family. The second marriage that is recorded in Pulaski County, Missouri was that of Wm McDonald and Abigail Clendenin, they were married by Is!
aac Clark, J. P. 1833. This family had two sons named Theodore and Perry who in 1844 live in Illinois, perhaps Green County. They were engaged in farming and stock raising, took their cattle, hogs, etc. to New Orleans by steamboat to market.
John Clendenin and family consisting of his wife, himself and five sons and three daughters, also his son-in-law George Gaddie and family consisting of his wife, two children, and a colored man and woman who belonged to Gaddie. (This was when Illinois was under Territorial government and slavery was permitted in the territory.) The Clendenin Family left their Kentucky home in the month of November 1811 and commenced their journey to Illinois. They traveled in wagons, and on horseback, as there were no steamboats on the Ohio or Mississippi at that date.
The moving family camped for the night at the close of the first day’s journey, prepared supper and got ready to rest, when the father in looking over baggage discovered that they had left a bundle of apple scions, whi8ch they had prepared to bring with them. The next morning, John, the third son, 17 years old who had a fine saddle horse was sent back to get the apple trees. The family remained in camp until he returned. The family reached Kaskaskia in the month of December, rested their team and looked round for a place to locate. They were farmers and commenced farm life on a tract of land where the town of Chester is situated, the part known as Buena Vista. There were 4 sons, the son-in-law Gaddie, the Father and the colored man. They went to work to make themselves comfortable in their new home, built a dwelling house for the family, stables for the horses, planted the apple trees which they had brought from Kentucky with them. They were comfortable in their new home u!
ntil the autumn of 1813 when the family was stricken with an epidemic of typhus fever. Henry, the oldest son aged 25 years, Margaret, the married daughter, William, the third son and their mother all died and were buried in what is now the Chester cemetery, perhaps the first burials made on the place. These were sad days for the Clendenins they perhaps thought many times of their old Kentucky home. Soon after this Gaddie took his team, his colored folks, and his children and went back to Kentucky where he lived to old age, his son, Buford in 1836 came back to visit his Clendenin relation and took malaria and died at the home of his Uncle Harvey Clendenin is buried in the Ebenezer Cemetery. James Clendenin married Margaret Herd who died leaving three sons; Wm. Sympson, John Herd and James. James died when 18 years old. Sympson married a Miss Oliver who died leaving two children, Emeline and Calvin Clendenin. After the death of his Oliver wife, Sympson married a widow Mann to!
them was born a family. They went to Stockton, California where Symps
on died. His descendants live in California. Emeline married a Mr. ___ She is now dead. John Herd Clendenin married Mary Elizabeth Vickers. Their children who lived to maturity were Wm. Harvey, Moses Walter, Margaret Ann, Sarah Jane, Content Elizabeth, Joseph H. Benjamin H. and Lettie. William Harvey was a merchant married Emily Jones, died in Kansas City leaving two sons and one daughter. The eldest son resides in Chicago, Illinois, second, Roscoe Turner lives in Atchison, Kansas, is a dealer in woolen wares. The daughter Daisy is the wife of Bower of Kansas City. Moses Walter Clendenin was a physician, graduated from Jefferson Medical College, married Lydia Wagoner. They were the parents of two sons and two daughters. Ernest, the oldest is a railroad man, his home is now in St. Louis, Mo.”
END OF MANUSCRIPT
Hello,
I have turned my attention to Josiah Clendenen, believed to be son of James & Margaret Clendenen.
I have located Josiah and his wife in Morgan Co., IN in the 1850 census as well as three Clendenen marriages which occured in Morgan Co. prior to 1850.
My goal is to identify and locate a male Clendenen descended from Josiah for DNA testing.
I have the following marriages:
Elizabeth Clendenen to James Moberly, 28 Sep 1816, Madison Co., KY
Ruth Clendenen to John Armstrong 01 Mar 1827, Monroe Co., IN
James Clendenen m Isobel LNU, no date, no place
Charles H. Clendenen to Nancy Denny, 31 Mar 1835, Monroe Co., IN
Mary Clendenen to Amos Bailey, 10 Nov 1836, Morgan Co., IN
Nancy Clendenen to John Lyster, 26 Jan 1836, Morgan Co., IN
William Clendenen to Mary Kent, 20 Aug 1837, Morgan Co., IN
I also have a George W. Clendenen and a John Clendenen for whom I have no marriages.
Is there anyone out there who is descended from Josiah and Esther Livingston Clendenen who is knowledgable about the entire family?
Please contact me.
Thank you,
Sharon
Sorry Sharon – I can’t help you on this one. Good Luck though - Nancy
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Hello to all from close to the Cowpasture River. I found that I got a bit long-winded on this note...so if you are a Clendenin researcher but not interested in the Massacre event of 1763, please skip to my question at the end. It has to do with the Clendenin family on the Cowpasture River in what was then Augusta County, Va.
Remember several years ago when I sent many of our researchers my rough draft of the Clendenin massacre? And then never got around to polishing it up and editing it? Well there are two reasons that it remains unfinished.
First reason is that when I thought about the research that I had done so far, I decided that I didn't really believe that Ann Royal's version was the FOR SURE version. And then it seemed that many of the other retellings used Ann's version as their source. There are several parts of the story that I suspect Ann took from a variety of massacre/capture stories and put them together to make the story as thrilling as she could make it because her book was a commercial venture.
Second and more importantly, I became aware of how many more families were involved in what I now call the Cornstalk incident of 1763. And I have been very lucky in that I have met with and been in touch with researchers of several other surnames who have shared their versions of the story. Somehow I seem to luck out every fall with an unexpected e-mail from someone who adds a new dimension to my slowly evolving understanding of the whole event. And this year is no different.
This year I have heard from a man who researches the Daugherty name. And he has put me in contact with others of the same name. And it seems that the Daugherty/Doherty lines lived near the Cow Pasture River and that one of the wives of a Daugherty hopped on a horse and warned the settlers along the Cowpasture River of the Indians approach and the settlers were able to gather for safety and escaped the event.
Now in my head I am thinking that the family of Charles Clendenin for whom the city of Charleston, WV was named was living on the Cowpasture at that time. Unfortunately, my files and piles on the Clendenin line are at home in my office. If anyone has information supporting my memory that the Clendenin family was living on the Cowpasture in the time frame of 1763, please send it my way. I'll share anything that I find on this trip with the list, but I could use a little help in getting my ideas together--and particularly the documentation about the whereabouts of Charles Clendenin and his family in 1763. Thanks for any help that you can give me while I a looking around here. Marsha not in WV today
I found this yesterday on Ancestry:
Name: Henry M. Clendenin
Company: H
Unit: 15 North Carolina Infantry.
Rank - Induction: Private
Rank - Discharge: Sergeant
Allegiance: Confederate
15th Infantry Regiment, formerly the 5th Volunteers, was organized at Garysburg, North Carolina, in June, 1861. Its members were recruited in the counties of Northampton, Union, Cleveland, Franklin, Harnett, Alamance, and Edgecombe. With about 800 officers and men, the unit was ordered to Yorktown, Virginia. In April, 1862, it had 532 effectives and during the war served under Generals H. Cobb and Cooke. It fought in the Seven Days' Battles, the Maryland Campaign, and at Fredericksburg . In January, 1863, the regiment moved toCharleston and Savannah, then returned to Virginia. After serving in the Richmond area during the Pennsylvania Campaign it was active in numerous conflicts from Bristoe to Cold Harbor . Later it saw action in the Petersburg trenches south of the James River and the Appomattox Courthouse Campaign. The unit reported 21 killed and 110 wounded at Malvern Hill ; 11 killed, 48 wounded, and 124 missing of the 402 engaged at Crampton's Gap ; and 3 killed, 52 wo!
unded, and 8 missing of the 133 at Sharpsburg . It sustained 121 casualties at Fredericksburg , 101 at Bristoe, and 113 from May 1 to June 21, 1864. The records show 16 officers and 122 men were present on April 9, 1865.
Name: Henry M Clendenin ,
Residence: Alamance County, North Carolina
Enlistment Date: 21 May 1861
Distinguished Service: DISTINGUISHED SERVICE
Side Served: Confederacy
State Served: North Carolina
Unit Numbers: 125 125
Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 21 May 1861 at the age of 20
Enlisted in Company H, 15th Infantry Regiment North Carolina on 21 May 1861.
Promoted to Full Sergeant on 30 September 1861 (Estimated day of Promo)
Killed Company H, 15th Infantry Regiment North Carolina on 16 April 1862 in Lee's Mills, VA
Henry was the second son of Fisher Clendenin and Rhoda Everett Cook.
James Clendenin and Mary Bradshaw had a son named Fisher.
Note:
Orange County NC
On Aug. 20, 1809, James Turner, Thomas Bradshaw, Thomas Whited and
Fisher Clendening (I believe this is Fisher b. 1776) posted 500 pounds current
money as a bond to administer James Clendening's estate. He had 2 parcels of
land that was to be divided between the 5 sons. Mary received a separate
parcel as her dower land. James Turner was appointed guardian for the 5 sons.
In Aug. 1818 a petition is submitted to the Court of Pleas in Orange County,
NC. William, Thomas, Fisher, John and James are listed as the infant sons
of James Clendenning, deceased. This would mean that in Aug of 1818 they were
all under the age of 21. It is stated also in the petition that "William,
Thomas, Fisher, John and James who are the only children & heirs of the said
James deceased".
So, this puts the birth years of the children of James and Mary between 1797
(based on marriage date) and Nov 20, 1809. (I believe that most of these
sons went to Sumner County, TN)
William b. between 1797 -1800
Thomas b. between 1797-1809
Fisher Jr. b. between 1797 -1809
John b. 4 June 1808
James b. about 1809
In 1800, James is listed with 3 sons under the age of 10 in the census.
In 1810, Mary is listed as:
1810 North Carolina, ORANGE, Roll 41 Book 1, Page 224
Hillsboro
Mary Clendenin 410000011000
In a message dated 10/9/2005 7:43:33 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
SharonBryant(a)cox.net writes:
Candidate one: Fisher, born c 1776 and d c 1811, married Ann Bradshaw. This
man left a will with the following provisions: Named five sons--Thomas,
Joseph, William, James, and Fisher. Named one daughter--Sarah. Wife was pregnant.
The date of birth I have for Fisher (the son) in my database is 07 Aug 1811
HOWEVER, the son was named in the will which was signed 19 Apr 1811.
Something is wrong here! The testator continuously refers to the unborn child--male
or female. I believe this unborn child was Charles Americus who, in my
database, was born 07 Aug 1809.
Don't forget that this will was not probated until Nov. 1815. I believe
that Fisher b. 1776 was still conducting business in 1813.
Note:
Orange County (NC) Deed Book 14
P. 410 19 Mar 1813, Josiah TURNER of Hillsborough to Fisher CLENDENEN of
Orange, four hundred forty eight dollars, Negroe woman Edy &
boy Jack son of Edy, signed: J. TURNER, Wit:
W. WHITTED, acknowledged May Term 1813, delvd. F.C.
So, based on this, his death date would be between Mar. 1813 and Nov.
1815.
Hello,
I'm still on the search for the parents of Fisher Clendenin who married Rhoda Everett Cook in 1836.
In the 1850 census I have located two Fisher Clendenins, both of whom have ages of 39 years. One lives in the northern district of Orange County and the other in the southern district of Orange County. One is married to Rhoda and the other to Betsy--probably Elizabeth Ann Freeland.
In my database I have three Fishers but only two of whom seem to be logical candidates. I want to focus on those two individuals (the third is the son of John who married Ann M. Webb. But John died about 1790 and therefore does not make a candidate for a son born in 1811.)
Candidate one: Fisher, born c 1776 and d c 1811, married Ann Bradshaw. This man left a will with the following provisions: Named five sons--Thomas, Joseph, William, James, and Fisher. Named one daughter--Sarah. Wife was pregnant.
The date of birth I have for Fisher (the son) in my database is 07 Aug 1811 HOWEVER, the son was named in the will which was signed 19 Apr 1811. Something is wrong here! The testator continuously refers to the unborn child--male or female. I believe this unborn child was Charles Americus who, in my database, was born 07 Aug 1809.
Candidate two does not, in my database, have parents. He's not a cabbage-patch kid so I need help determining the proper parents for the proper people.
Someone out there has spent time studying the North Carolina Clendenins. I need your help here.
Thanks,
Sharon
Good Morning – I am here at last. I have been traveling this summer but am
back. How can I help you?
Nancy Terrell
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Hello folks,
I need your help. Fisher Clendenin m Rhoda Everett Cook 19 Apr 1836, Orange Co., NC. Oldest son, John Cook Clendenin became a printer and married Mary M. Woollen in Guilford Co. Later lived in Rutherford Co., NC.
Who are Fisher's parents?
Thanks
SEARCH ENGINE TIPS
by Mike Jarvis
As genealogists in today's high-tech world, the importance of using search
engines properly is ever increasing. With genealogy related web sites making
up a huge part of our World Wide Web, we would like to share some search
engine tips that perhaps a few you will find helpful. There is much that
could be written about this, but we will focus only on a few tips that we
find most helpful. We use [ and ] to indicate terms that would be written in
a search box.
First - The use of quotation marks. When using a combination of words in the
search box, the search engine results will include every web page where
these words occur anywhere on that page regardless of whether these words
are immediately next to each other. Using the search term of [family
history ] will result in 109,000,000 hits while ["family history"] within
quotations will result in 5,400,000 hits. This is because in the second
instance it is only finding pages were the words are actually next to or
immediately touching each other. Try this with a family name. For example my
grandmother is named Flora MacDonald. If I search [Flora McDonald ] in
Google it returns 251,000 hits. Putting ["Flora MacDonald"] in quotations
results in 29,600 hits. This is far too many hits and primarily relate to a
prominent woman in Scottish and American history.
This is not my grandmother. However, knowing that my grandmothers middle
name was Hermosa, it makes sense to put ["Flora Hermosa MacDonald"] in the
search box and I get two hits related specifically to my grandmother.
Success!
Second - The use of the minus sign. This is my second favorite search tip.
Using any combination of words in a search box with the minus sign directly
next to a word that you DO NOT want to find is also helpful. Using the
search term ["Flora MacDonald" -Scotland -Scottish
-"North Carolina" -NC ] will eliminate any pages from my search that
includes the words next to the minus sign. So I will get only those pages
that have my grandmother's name and do not have Scotland or North Carolina
on the site. This effectively reduces the number of sites by more than half,
from
29,600 to 12,800 hits.
Using quotation marks and the minus sign in combination greatly improves
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However, not the Alexander MacDonald who was prime minister of Canada. Using
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-"North Carolina" -NC +"Alexander MacDonald" -Canada ] gives me 1 hit that
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marks with the minus sign and the plus sign
Fourth - The site search. Let's say that I would like to find Alexander
MacDonald, however, I only want to search a particular domain. I would
simply use the search phrase ["Alexander MacDonald"
site:rootsweb.com ].
Rather than thousands of hits I get 204. Similarly, you could put a minus
sign in front of rootsweb.com so that it searches all domains except
Rootsweb.
Fifth - The intitle search term. Suppose that you would like to find every
site on the Web with the word genealogy in the title. The search box would
need the term [intitle:genealogy ], which would result in 943,000 hits.
Similarly, use the term [intitle:genealogy
-site:ancestry.com ] and you eliminate 3000 sites related to ancestry.com.
One more: try using the term [intitle:genealogy -site:com ] which will have
the effect of eliminating all domains with the.com extension (commercial
sites).
Sixth - The related search term: If you like to know which sites are similar
to your own then use the term as follows:
[related:USGenWeb.org]. Results will vary with Google providing 31 similar
sites and Yahoo serving up 35,000 related sites.
Dan Hogan
hogan-4(a)sbcglobal.net
Hi All, I'm hoping that someone has some information on this James
Clendenin's family. Thanks. Best regards, Jim
http://www.lancastercountyheritage.com/heritage/lib/heritage/pdfs/freedom...
> STORY OF THE PEOPLE ------
> Africans in Lancaster desired a church of their own
> where they could worship God and carry out the
> Mission of the African Methodist Episcopal denomi-
> nation. In June 1817, James Clendenin and others
> solicited support from people at St. James Episcopal
> and Trinity Lutheran Churches. In Lancaster as in
> many other places, Africans were not freely permitted
> to establish institutions without the intervention of
> the ruling class. Upon establishment, Bethel African
> Methodist Episcopal Church immediately became a
> beacon in the community, giving hope and refuge to
> free Africans of Lancaster while providing safe haven
> to streams of enslaved Africans fleeing a despotic
> system by way of the Underground Railroad.
> In keeping with the tradition of the Free African
> Society and the African Methodist Church, the
> present congregation developed Bethel Harambee
> Historical Services, a company that presents “Living
> the Experience,” an interactive spiritual journey to
> the times of the Underground Railroad (for curtain
> times, call 1-800-510-5899). Passionate about main-
> taining the integrity of African history interpretation
> in Lancaster, Bethel continues to speak from African
> spiritual depths, longing for freedom to develop into a
> holistic community called Churchtowne.
Hi,
Sometime in the last year (probably less) I helped one of you track your ancestry back to a John and Mary Clendenin who were in Guilford Co., NC in 1880. John was 43 and was a printer.
Would that person get in touch with me again please?
Thank you.
P.S. I'm working a line from Albert Garland Clendenin, father Clarence Carpenter Clendenin, father possibly John Cook Clendenin. Albert died when his son was only 15; and Clarence died when Albert was only 5. I found Albert 4-1/2 in the 1930 census with his mother, Myrtle, and her parents, Sandy and Nettie Simmons in Moore Co., NC. Does this ring any bells?