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-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Ellis <gildey(a)one.net>
To: SharonBryant(a)worldnet.att.net <SharonBryant(a)worldnet.att.net>
Date: Friday, July 30, 1999 10:25 PM
Subject: Harold Glendenning Ellis
My husbands father's name was Harold Glendenning Ellis. I am hoping you may have some information on the Glendenning name. I have been told through another Ellis that Nancy Glendenning married William Ellis in Fanquier, Virginia on December 22, 1789. Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks, Jenny Ellis
Hi there,
Just wanted to tell you that I will leave for two weeks vacation tomorrow
and will not be seeing any of my mail until I get back. I am going to
a Wood family reunion, where I will present the results of the past three
years of research, during which I was able to find four lines through to
European Royalty. They should be blown away to find they descend from
Marc Anthony (Cleopatra was a step grandmother), the Roman Emperor
Constantine, Ramses II Pharoah of Egypt, Lady Godiva, etc. I will give
out copies of an abreviated Ahnentafel Chart which shows the direct lineage
to William the Conqueror, Edward III, King of England, etc. Should be fun.
I also have some wonderful old pictures of our Grandfather Orris Wood and
his family and our great grandfather Robert Wood and his wife Sarah Louisa
Clendenon. I heartily recommend holding and attending such reunions. This
is our 5th one. Each time, there are fewer of the older members. At the
first one I had great talks with two of my great uncles. Now even my
uncles are getting fewer. I am becoming the old patriarch of the group,
being the oldest great grandchild of my generation. In any case, I will
not be receiving or answering any mail for the next two weeks.
Best Wishes, Bruce Wood
I've been trying since last night to send you all this URL (like a dummy) I
was trying to send it as an attachment. Sorry about that. Some really neat
information with maps with owners names from very early. Check it out.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaaugust/augusta2.html#tinkling
Sharon
I found this information this morning quite by accident (ie, I was looking
for something else): From the Indiana State Library Marriages before 1850
database -
Clendenin, Catharine - John R. Allen, Lawrence Co., IN 10-16-1845
Rankin, Eleanor - Joseph M. Allen, Lawrence Co., IN 7-29-1830
Clendenen, Jackson H. - Sarah Allen, Lawrence Co., IN 2-16-1847
Clendenin, Charles A. - Lavina Allen, Lawrence Co., IN 9-28-1830
Clendenen, Mary Ann - Thomas Allen, Lawrence Co., IN 9-9-1847
Hope this helps someone.
Sharon
I did not do the research on Robert the Bruce but am sure the Clendenin gang
would like to see it verified
Sandy in Fla
In a message dated 7/10/99 4:29:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lars.soltvedt(a)os.telia.no writes:
>
> Just forwarding a request for the Robert Bruce lineage you've researched.
>
> Would it be ok if I forwarded the lineage to the
>
> Scots Ancestry Research Society at the following address for verification
?:
>
> 29B Albany ST
> Edinburgh, EH 1 3QN
> Scotland
>
>
> They are a non profit organization set up to help Scottish descendants.
>
> I got the address via the following (The Clan Bruce web page):
>
> http://www.discribe.ca/cgi-bin/net.Thread...il=&depth=4&detail=description&
> lastread=7
>
> Terry
>
Return Jonathan Meigs wrote a book on the Meigs family. Library of Congress
call number CS71.M511 1936, "The line of the Returns. No. 1, Vincent Meigs,
the American Founder, published 1936. LCCN Number: 37-16854.
Larry Hall
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Bryant <SharonBryant(a)worldnet.att.net>
To: CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com <CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 1:09 PM
Subject: [CLENDINEN-L] Return Jonathon Meigs
>According to the data I have, this man was the son of John Meigs and
>Parthenia Clendinen, the daughter of George Clendinen. Return was born in
>1801, possibly in Mason Co., VA and had a sister, Teresa Charlotte.
>
>At any rate, I have not pursued this line but while I was reading "Missing
>Links," the on-line publication I found the following in an article
>regarding survivors of the Trail of Tears. The Jane Ross who is the topic
of
>this particular paragraph was the daughter of Chief John Ross who was chief
>of the Cherokees during the time of the Indian removal and continued in
that
>capacity until 1866.
>
>If anyone knows or has other information about Return Jonathon Meigs,
please
>contact me.
>
>"John Ross's children Jane Ross Nave (1821-1894), and George
>Washington Ross (1830-1870), also were remembered. Jane Ross Nave
>was married to Return Jonathan Meigs in 1838. After his death she
>married Andrew Ross Nave who was killed during the Civil War in
>1863 and buried in Ross Cemetery. She moved to Bethlehem,
>Pennsylvania, for the remainder of the Civil War. She managed to
>raise her seven children plus two orphaned children of her brother
>James and his wife Sallie, both of whom died in 1864. George
>Washington Ross served the Cherokee Nation as secretary in 1865
>and was clerk of the Tahlequah District Circuit Court in 1866. He
>served in Co. I of the Third Indian Home Guards during the Civil
>War.
>
>Andrew Ross Nave, the second husband of Jane Ross, was born in
>1822. He was killed fighting in the Civil War at Park Hill on
>October 28, 1863. Before the war, he was a merchant in Tahlequah
>in the 1850s and early 1860s, and sometime partner of Chief John
>Ross."
>
>
>
>==== CLENDINEN Mailing List ====
>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~clendin Best little URL in town!
>
According to the data I have, this man was the son of John Meigs and
Parthenia Clendinen, the daughter of George Clendinen. Return was born in
1801, possibly in Mason Co., VA and had a sister, Teresa Charlotte.
At any rate, I have not pursued this line but while I was reading "Missing
Links," the on-line publication I found the following in an article
regarding survivors of the Trail of Tears. The Jane Ross who is the topic of
this particular paragraph was the daughter of Chief John Ross who was chief
of the Cherokees during the time of the Indian removal and continued in that
capacity until 1866.
If anyone knows or has other information about Return Jonathon Meigs, please
contact me.
"John Ross's children Jane Ross Nave (1821-1894), and George
Washington Ross (1830-1870), also were remembered. Jane Ross Nave
was married to Return Jonathan Meigs in 1838. After his death she
married Andrew Ross Nave who was killed during the Civil War in
1863 and buried in Ross Cemetery. She moved to Bethlehem,
Pennsylvania, for the remainder of the Civil War. She managed to
raise her seven children plus two orphaned children of her brother
James and his wife Sallie, both of whom died in 1864. George
Washington Ross served the Cherokee Nation as secretary in 1865
and was clerk of the Tahlequah District Circuit Court in 1866. He
served in Co. I of the Third Indian Home Guards during the Civil
War.
Andrew Ross Nave, the second husband of Jane Ross, was born in
1822. He was killed fighting in the Civil War at Park Hill on
October 28, 1863. Before the war, he was a merchant in Tahlequah
in the 1850s and early 1860s, and sometime partner of Chief John
Ross."
Carol, I don't have any direct info on your Charles and Francis
(Armstrong) Clendenin, but the name Rankin caught my attention.
Unfortunately, that record is not in my data base so I had to hunt through
about 30 notebooks to find it. And I don't know if it will help.
The Compendium of American Genealogy, Vol. 5, page 200
"John Clendenin came to America from Dumfries, Scotland between 1730 and
1750. He settled in Cumberland Valley, Pa.... m. Janet Huston. Their dau.
Isabell m. Capt. Thomas Rankin (1724-1810)
American Ancestry Vol. 12, pages 150-151:
(lineage of D.W. Clendenin of Chicago, aurthor of "A Synoptical....1900)
"...James, who came to America with brothers John, Samuel & Charles to Pa.
about 1746.... John lived in Cumberland Co., Pa. and was 1st Lt. in Capt
Sample's Company in the Revolutionary War."
(note from D.E.C. I think the Lt. John was the son of John who was said to
be brother of Charles.)
Another record (source not recorded) shows John 1 b. 1704 d. 1797 m. Janet
Huston. Children:
1. John m. Elizabeth Caldwell. He died after 1802.
2. William, killed by Indians
3. Margaret, died young
4. Jennie
5. Annie, m. ____ Bradwhaw.
6. Mary, m. _____ Calhoon
7. Isabella, m. Thomas Rankin b. 1724 d. 1810.
8. Katie died young.
9. Samuel (d. 1804) m. Mary ("Polly") Mcbeth (d. 1834) moved 5 miles south
of Wellsburg, Brook Co., W.Va. about 1800.
10. James m. Isabella Huston 10-14-1765 (she was his first cousin).
I think this came from a DAR magazine, but I copied it many years ago and
did not document it.
Don
Norm, I don't have any additional information on your North Carolina
relatives beyond what I sent AAHouse over this net. Sorry I couldn't help.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Norm Clendenin <1ncc(a)gte.net>
To: Donald E. Clendenin <donclend(a)todays-tech.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 1999 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CLENDINEN-L] John Clendenin
Don,
Do you have anything on these names and marriages? They are in Orange
County, N.C. records, deeds, marriages, births and wills.
Joseph Clendenin (b. abt. 1764 d. before 1830) married Anne Webb on 20 Feb.
1787 w. Walter Slaughter
Children: Joseph (went to Ind.), Alexander, George, Fisher, David ?, Charles
and daughters unknown
John Clendenin (b. abt. 1756 d. unknown) married Elizabeth or Mary or Anne
Clendening 27 Dec. 1782
William Clendenin (b. abt 1753 d. abt 1801) married Mary Ray (may be 2nd
wife) 30 Nov. 1791 w. Charles Clendenin
John Clendenin (b. abt 1759 d. unknown) married Elizabeth Anderson 24 Oct.
1798 w. Henry Thompson
I would appreciate any feed back you can give on these names.
Norm Clendenin
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald E. Clendenin <donclend(a)todays-tech.com>
To: <CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 1999 9:33 PM
Subject: [CLENDINEN-L] John Clendenin
: Sandra asked when John, son of James and Margaret (Anderson) Clendenin was
: born and died. I have no proof of either date. I think he was born about
: 1759 based on his military service and births of his children. The Bible
: of his son, James was destroyed in a fire, but Mildred Midjaas copied the
: information earlier and stated that it did not give John's vital dates.
The
: most reliable information regarding his death (Mary Singer who lived on
the
: Illinois farm settled by John) said he was about 68 years old when he
died.
: That would make his death date about 1827. The DAR record showing his
death
: is absolutely wrong! 1809 is the date he sold his Kentucky farm and moved
to
: Randolph Co., Ill. He is in the 1810 and 1820 census. Your dates for his
: sons, John Jr. and Harvey are correct, also Harvey died Nov. 30, 1845 at
: Rockwood, Ill.
:
: Don
:
:
: ==== CLENDINEN Mailing List ====
: Come visit us at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~clendin. We're adding more
material every week.
:
Sadny in Fla: I don't know when Mary Sympson was born, but she died in the
fall of 1813 in Randolph Co., Ill. She is buried in the Clendenin Family
Cemetery which is now an Historical Site thanks to the efforts of Michael
McClure of Chester, Ill.
Don
For AAHouse(a)aol.com: I found several references to William Clendenen. They
appear to refer to at least two different men. I don't know if either or any
of them are your relative.
"The History of Alamance", by Miss S. W. Stockard, Raleigh 1900.
Chapt. VIII ...Joseph Clendenen had seven sons as follows:
1. William m. Miss Bradshaw
2. Alex m. Miss Freshwater and went to Virginia
3. George m. Polly Albright
4. Charles m. Miss Strayhorn
5. Fisher m. Miss Cook
6. David
7. Joseph went to Park Co., Ind.
Captain Clendenen was a Whig of the Revolution.
Page. 76. The Battle of Lindley's Mill occurred 14 Sept. 1781...Captain
Clendenen was there , but got away in the morning. (page 156 refers to
Captain Clendenen as a maternal uncle of Rebecca. I think that means he was
a brother of Joseph, father of the 7 sons. D.E.C.)
Page 156. Chapter XVIII JUDGE JESSE TURNER
... James Turner, the paternal grandfather and William Clendenen, the
maternal grandfather (of Judge Jesse Turner) were natives of County Down,
Ireland, from whence they migrated to Lancaster Co., Pa. about 1750...
Turner to Orange Co., N.C. about 1755, and William Clendenen about 1758
where James Turner, the father, and Rebecca Clendenen, the mother (of Jesse)
were born.
Historical Southern Families, Vol.3 (Bodie 1958)
page 123 James Clendening, the husband of Betsy Bledsoe, was the son of
William Clendening who moved from Ireland with his family to Orange Co.,
N.C. about 1765. The older brother of James was Lt. John Clendening.
Abstract of Orange Co. Wills
Book D. page 25 William Clendennin 17 Jun 1790... proved Feb. 1801, wife
Mary; younger sons: Wm, John, Joseph,; Daughters: Polly, Rebecca, Ann,
Fanny, Jenny; niece Ann, dau of John Clendennin, deceased.
DAR magazine Aug. 1946 page 428 James and Rebecca Turner (W 11,573) James
Turner, Revolutionary War soldier of the Hawfields, living in Alamance Co.,
N.C. declared 24 November 1855 that he was then ninety-eight years old. On
26 March 1856 Rebecca Turner swore that she was named Rebecca Clendenin when
about 1 January 1789 she married James Turner, and that he died in Alamance
Co. 12 Feb. 1856. She subscribed to that affidavit before James Clendening,
J.P.
page 429... The date of the marriage bond on James Turner and Rebecca
Clendenin was 25 May 1790.
(Note: The various spellings of Clendenin are as I found them in the names
publications. D.E.C.)
Don
Sandra asked when John, son of James and Margaret (Anderson) Clendenin was
born and died. I have no proof of either date. I think he was born about
1759 based on his military service and births of his children. The Bible
of his son, James was destroyed in a fire, but Mildred Midjaas copied the
information earlier and stated that it did not give John's vital dates. The
most reliable information regarding his death (Mary Singer who lived on the
Illinois farm settled by John) said he was about 68 years old when he died.
That would make his death date about 1827. The DAR record showing his death
is absolutely wrong! 1809 is the date he sold his Kentucky farm and moved to
Randolph Co., Ill. He is in the 1810 and 1820 census. Your dates for his
sons, John Jr. and Harvey are correct, also Harvey died Nov. 30, 1845 at
Rockwood, Ill.
Don
This was on the Augusta list, I added about 40 spaces between dates and names
to make it easier to read, I hate it when people type w/o spaces...
Sandy in Fla
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom & Mickey Daniels <tmhfbred(a)netins.net>
| Nm of Father Name of Child Date of Baptism Place
| Anderson, James Agness Oct 19,1740 no place listed
| Anderson, John John Oct 19,1740 " " "
| Anderson, Geo. William Nov 2,1740 " " "
| Anderson, James Ann Mar.1, 1741 At John Calwells
| Anderson, John Robert Nov 15,1741 Buck mountain.
| Anderson, Geo Margaret Jun.27, 1742 no place listed
| Anderson, James Mary March 23,1843 " " "
| Anderson, Wm. Margaret April 10,1743 Mother died same
night.
| Anderson, Geo. Mary March 18,1744 no place listed
| Anderson, Geo. James April 8,1744 " " "
| Anderson John Jean April 29,1744 " " "
| Anderson, James Thomas Feb. 12, 1745 " " "
| Anderson, Geo. John June, no date, 1746 no place listed
| Anderson, James Samuel Feb 15,1747 " " "
| Anderson, Jacob John March 2,1747 Timber Grove
MeetingHouse.
| Anderson, Wm. Mary June 21,1747 no place listed.
| Anderson, John James Mar. 6, 1748 no place listed
| Anderson, Geo. George Nov. 27, 1748 " " "
Mary Jennings asked for info regarding the above John Clendenin. The only
mention of him in my book is as a brother of the immigrant Charles. My
source (which was in error about John) said he was followed to America and
beheaded.
The DAR application of Virginai Lee Bevier, approved 1/15/1955, #433342
lists the children of John and Margaret Steele as:
John b. 1/15/1759 (this is the source of the ERRONIOUS birth date for John,
son of James and Margaret (Anderson) Clendenin);
Sarah b. 2/10/1761, m. Charles Ramsey;
James b. 10/21/1763, m. Mary McConnel;
Samuel b. 12/15/1765 m. (1) Mary Miller (2) Mary Alexander; Thomas b.
1/25/1768 m. (1) Isabella Andrews (2) Elizabeth Hood; Robert b. 7/1770;
Mary b. 5/10/1773 m. Robert Andrews;
Margaret b. 2/12/1776 m. James Andrews;
Joseph b. 9/25/1778 m. Elizabeth Slough;
David b. 7/29/1781 m. Mary Patterson.
My book would not help you unless you don't have the earlier generations
as given by Gerald Talbot Clindenning in "The House of Glendonwyn."
Some of my relatives entered the DAR giving John and Margaret (Steele)
Clendenin as parents of my ancestor John, son of James and Margaret
(Anderson) Clendenin. I have proven that claim to be false as least to my
satisfaction and that of Mildred Midjaas who was historian for DAR for
Southern Illinois.
Sorry I couldn't offer more help.
Don
GREAT JOB DON!
In a message dated 7/2/99 10:09:02 PM, donclend(a)todays-tech.com writes:
<< Mary Jennings asked for info regarding the above John Clendenin. The only
mention of him in my book is as a brother of the immigrant Charles. My
source (which was in error about John) said he was followed to America and
beheaded. >>
Good morning everyone,
May I add a note here?
The DAR, in the past, has accepted applications for memberships without
requiring a whole lot of documentary proof.
What Don did was absolutely correct! He took a clue, Virginia Bevier's
application, and proved it wrong by checking each and every one of the
"facts" listed in that application. The DAR, in the last 10-15 years, have
tightened considerably their requirements for proof of an applicant's
lineage.
That is the type of thing that the rest of us should do also. PLEASE
remember that we can't just take information posted to the Internet and
accept it as gospel unless it states where the record was found. Even then,
with all the duplicated names the Clendinens used, we'll have to prove that
all the documents we find are about the same person. It is the elimination
of an individual from inclusion in our family trees that moves us towards
the truth.
Have a good 4th of July weekend.
Sharon
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald E. Clendenin <donclend(a)todays-tech.com>
To: <CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 1999 1:11 AM
Subject: [CLENDINEN-L] John Clendenin 1733
> Mary Jennings asked for info regarding the above John Clendenin. The only
> mention of him in my book is as a brother of the immigrant Charles. My
> source (which was in error about John) said he was followed to America and
> beheaded.
> The DAR application of Virginai Lee Bevier, approved 1/15/1955, #433342
> lists the children of John and Margaret Steele as:
> John b. 1/15/1759 (this is the source of the ERRONIOUS birth date for
John,
> son of James and Margaret (Anderson) Clendenin);
> Sarah b. 2/10/1761, m. Charles Ramsey;
> James b. 10/21/1763, m. Mary McConnel;
> Samuel b. 12/15/1765 m. (1) Mary Miller (2) Mary Alexander; Thomas b.
> 1/25/1768 m. (1) Isabella Andrews (2) Elizabeth Hood; Robert b. 7/1770;
> Mary b. 5/10/1773 m. Robert Andrews;
> Margaret b. 2/12/1776 m. James Andrews;
> Joseph b. 9/25/1778 m. Elizabeth Slough;
> David b. 7/29/1781 m. Mary Patterson.
>
> My book would not help you unless you don't have the earlier generations
> as given by Gerald Talbot Clindenning in "The House of Glendonwyn."
>
> Some of my relatives entered the DAR giving John and Margaret (Steele)
> Clendenin as parents of my ancestor John, son of James and Margaret
> (Anderson) Clendenin. I have proven that claim to be false as least to my
> satisfaction and that of Mildred Midjaas who was historian for DAR for
> Southern Illinois.
>
> Sorry I couldn't offer more help.
>
> Don
>
>
> ==== CLENDINEN Mailing List ====
> "A tree without roots
> is like a brook without a source."
> -------- Old Chinese Proverb
>
>Thanks Bruce,
>Would you check Hannah Worral in #BB7? You have her born and married in
>1793. I have her born 3 Sep 1767, but no source. Do you have parents of
>Jane Roberts, mother of Elinor Morris?
>Don
Hi Don and others,
That was a stupid data entry mistake for which I apologize. I also have
her birth date as 3 Sep 1767. The date I posted was the birthdate of her
first child, Elizabeth. Here are some families that will define Jane
Roberts.
Best Wishes, Bruce Wood
___________________________________________________________________________
Family BB5
David Morris s. Cadwalader Morris
(abt 1714- ) b. of Gwynedd Twp, Philadelphia Co, Pennsylvania
married 20 Aug 1741 at Gwynedd, Philadelphia Co, Pennsylvania
Jane Roberts dt. Nicholas Roberts and Margaret Foulke #BB1
(20 Feb 1718-3/23/1790) b. Gwynedd, Philadelphia Co, Pennsylvania
Children:
1. Elizabeth Morris b. in Pennsylvania
( 1745- 1824) m. 1769 to David Jackson #BB51
2. Eleanor Morris b. Gwynedd, Philadelphia Co, Pennsylvania
(abt 1746- 1808) m. 1766 at Benjamin Worrall #BB7
3. Nicholas Morris b. Gwynedd, Philadelphia Co, Pennsylvania
( 1749- 1807) m. to Hannah Jackson
4. Edward Morris b. in Pennsylvania
(abt 1757- ) m. 15 May 1778 to Hannah Worrall #BB641
5. Jane Morris
( 1760- 1834) m. 1785 to Abiah Cope #BB52
_________________________________________________________________________
Family BB1
Nicholas Roberts s. Robert Cadwaladr and Jane John #BBG7
(abt 1688- 1733) b. Pennlyn, Wales
d. Gwynedd, Philadelphia Co, Pennsylvania
married 1st 23 Jan 1717 at Gwynedd, Pennsylvania
Margaret Foulke dt. Edward Foulke and Ellin Hugh #BBH7
(abt 1688-bef 1728) b. in Merionethshire, Wales
d. Gwynedd, Pennsylvania
Children:
1. Jane Roberts b. Gwynedd, Pennsylvania
(20 Feb 1718-3/23/1790) m. 20 Aug 1741 to David Morris #BB5
2. Ellen Roberts b. Gwynedd, Pennsylvania
(6 Nov 1723- ) m. 27 Jun 1757 to John Sniddons (b.abt 1720)
3. Elizabeth Roberts b. Gwynedd, Pennsylvania
(11 Jun 1723-5/29/1790) m. 1743 to David Humphrey #BB11
__________________________________________________________________________
I don't have all the material organized in form to distribute it to the
world but I do have handwritten notes that link the Roberts line into the
Royal families of the world via many generations of Welsh. If enough
people are interested, I will did these out and try to publish this
connection. Remember that all the codes such as #BBH7 represent lines
that continue, some forward in time and some backward.
For Donald E. Clendenin - Ken Bower wrote you may have information in
your book on John Clendenin born in 1733 in Ireland and documented as
settling in Lancster County, Pa. He married Margaret Steele and they had ten
children. I am looking for background info. on John. He supposedly came to
America with his brothers, Archibald and Charles. If you could help me I
would appreciate it. Thank you.
Mary Jennings hermosajenn(a)msn.com