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Everything is a little confused around here these days, but I guess I did
not give the list my address. Here it is:
Sharon Bryant
518 West Little Creek Road
Norfolk, VA 23505-3345
Thanks. Mary Louise, yours arrived yesterday.
Sharon
I was reading a recent posting dated 26 Mar 1999 (after spending three weeks
in Mason County, WV) about Ann McSwain, Archibald Clendenin (Jr.) and John
Rogers. The posting indicated Archibald Clendenin b. about 1730 in Cumberland
PA. My problem is that I had him born in Scotland. I also note an e-mail
from Sharon 25 Apr 1998 and another e-mail from acampbell indicating Archibald
b. Virginia. So now I have three birthplaces (Scotland, Virginia, and
Pennsylvania) for Archibald. What is the current thinking on where Archibald
was born? Jim
Did my new version of the Clendenin Massacre get to anyone? I typed
up the version that I read in Feb. from the Draper Manuscripts. I
thought that I had sent them to the list but this morning I was trying
to find them to forward to someone else and cannot find them
anywhere....I found the final one that tells what I still hope to
do...bet that did not make any sense to anyone...if the first ones did
not arrive first....There was a LOT of material so I do not want to
resend if you already received--someone let me know please...and please
bear with me as I am in the middle of upgrading EVERYTHING at the same
time I am trying to catch up with 4000 e-mails that I am behind...Marsha
in WV
One more thing: I was making myself some notes aobut things that I
would like to look at. Thought that I would send it along in case
someone else has time before I do or more ideas....Here it is:
1. See if there is information in The Ewing family
2. See if can figure who the Dutch girl might be
3. See if there is a list somewhere that is an accounting of prisoners
exchanged at the end of the Revolutionary war...
4. See if there is account from Dick Pointer somewhere--also was he one
of the prisoners exchange...
5. See if there are any clues here to figure out the relationship of
ARchibald and my Charles.
So there it is...I know that it is very hard for you to read because I
tried hard to be as accurate an interpretation of what was written
there--and remember these were just hastily scribble notes in Shane's
notebook-- as possible at the expense of making it more easily
read....So I will take a minute to tell you what I think that I have
read...
I think that James Wade was interviewing James Alexander sometime
between 1840 and 1864. Mr. Alexander was then living in Kentucky.
However he was relating some family folklore about the Clendenin
Massacre. I think that he related that his father was among the early
settlers in the Greenbriar region, but that his father had moved back to
a safer area when the Indian situation had become bad---before 1763 when
the Clendenin Massacre took place. Then in 1780, shortly before James
was born he moved back to the area.
The reason that James was aware of the story was that according to
him he was related to Archibald Clendenin. His mother was a 1/2 sister
to Uncle Archy as he called him.
In his account, the women and children had been sent to the Warm
Springs area because of the Indian problem. The men had stayed behind
to tend the corn crop. One Dutch girl had stayed behind to cook for her
father. Anne Clendenin had such a dreadful dream that she felt
compelled to check on her husband and rode horseback, carrying her
infant daughter back to her home.
On seeing her arrival, many of the men and the Dutch girl gathered
out of curiosity. It was then that ten or twelve Indians arrived. They
made motions of wanting to be fed. The men began gathering firewood to
prepare a fire to cook a meal. The Indians helped. Archibald realized
that they were gathering too much firewood for the fire and became
suspicious that they had plans to burn the cabin. I am not sure exactly
what happened but the Indians began using their tomahawks to massacre
the men. Even though Archibald was know to be a great Indian hunter, he
chose this day to run. He was shot through the body seven times as
jumped through the door and fell in the yard. All of the men were
killed. The two women and the child were taken prisoner. Mrs. Clendenin
and the Dutch girl took turns carrying the child, and thus spelling and
relieving each other from fatigue were enabled to save its life.
On the second or third day of travel, the women and child fell
behind. Mrs. Clendenin slipped away and hid under ground cover provided
by grapevines. The Indians searched for her and passed right by her
twice, but did not discover her hiding place and she was able to excape.
She managed to find her way back to her home. SHe spent one night there
and then made it to the settlement and found help to bury the dead.
The Dutch girl was allowed to raise the child. At the end of the
Revolutionary War they were both exchanged. Mrs. Clendenin knew the
child to be hers by a scar on the child's foot that had been caused by
having been bled early in her infancy. The sore had healed but left a
scar on the child's foot. Mrs Clendenin was now married to Matthew
Arbuckle and they took the child into their home.
One more item of interest to the group is at the very end when James
Alexander mentions that Archibald had a brother named John C.who moved
in early times down into Holston (?). And I am not entirely sure whether
the quote about "being scarified by the Indians till as they used to say
of him, he looked like an old raccoon dog" was meant about Archy or his
father....
I have not had time to look at the relationship between James
Alexander's mother and Archibald Clendenin--whether they share father or
mother....Ok I quit for the day....Marsha in WV
Clendenin Massacre
The following information is found in the Draper Manuscript. I
read it in the Marshall University Library Special Collections Sunday
2/7/99. It is quite difficult to read. I am using a magnifying glass
at times to view the information on the screen of the microfilm reader.
It is in the handwriting of James Wade. The information is close to the
end of the Roll (Ms6 Reel 85) The outside of the box is labeled Draper
Manuscript Series CC VOl. 11-12 MS6 Reel 85.
I believe that it is information received from James Alexander and
recorded by James Wade sometime during the mid 1800s. The guide to the
Draper Manuscripts says ...the volumes of which 12CC is included
comprise a major portion of the papers of John D. Shane (1812-1864)
acquired by Draper at auction after Shanes death. (Draper heavily
annotated these volumes)1 Born in Cinncinnatti, Shane received his
college and theological education in Virginia, then returned to Ohio and
Kentucky as a Presbyterian minister. In addition to his clerical duties
he devoted more than 20 years to historical research. Adopting methods
similar to that of Draper, Shane interviewed pioneers, clipped from
newspapers and magazines, and copied from family, church and government
records. His interview notes reveal, however, that unlike Draper,
Shane was interested in the domestic, business, religious, educational,
and literary as well as the military.
The top of the page is headed: Bath No 1 J. Wade
James Wade, methodist, living on Picked (?) Oak, about 3 miles
from where Morgans Station was, in State. (see Mt. Sterling, No 10 P24)
Nab (?) born in 1770-Dec 10 one James Alexander, lived and was living
(whistney[?] father left that country) right at the place where Monroe C
(Greenbrier*) H. now is: and was 1/2 mile from us, at that time. (that
he lived) (Monroe*) It was then designated as on Indian Creek in the
neighborhood of the Sinks in Greenbriar. I think my father and ____(?)
out there but a short time before I was born. I think it was in 1770,
that he went there. The people that first moved out into Greenbriar and
spread over the western declivity (?) of the Allegheny, took no
precation to form stations; but settled all prunisciously (?) through
other. till the Indians became so bad (which was in the course of two
years) that most of them went back 30 miles or upwards over the
mountains. At this time my father moved 60 miles down into the lower
part of Bottetourt on Glade Creek within two miles of the Bedford line
and right beside the road leading from Holston (?) to Richmond...about 8
miles from the Big Lick and near the foot of the Blue Ridge could see
the Peaks of Otter as I went &&&&&&&&&2 to milk (?). After spending a
little over eight years there he returned to the spot where I was born
in Greenbriar, spring 1780. He stayed there four years the Indians
there being all....and in the fall 1784 came to Mc ????Station in Ky 6
miles below Winchester. ....the people fled over the mountains
(Greenbriar*) in 1772 that I know of but one cabin where 3 or 4 men, one
of whom was my 1/2 Uncle (1/2 brother to my mother) Archy Clendenin3
and a Dutch girl whose father was one of the number had gathered
????were living (about 15 miles from us in the neighborhood of a place
called the ???Lively up towards Greenbriar Court House (near
Lewisburg). The dutchman had sent away his wife and the remainder of
his family except this daughter: retaining her to cook. Mrs. Clendenin
had gone to the Warm Spring neighborhood. The other women and children
were also sent off, and the men with the girl remained to tend corn.
During the absence, Mrs. Clendenin dreamed so ????????a dream that she
could not repress her fears lest something should happened at the camp
and got on her horse and made her way with a small child that she
carried in her arms to her husband. When she got to the cabin,
curiosity naturally ??? in the ???around her. While they were all thus
gathered in, in also came some 10 or 12 Indians. They at first made
signs as if they were wishing something to eat. Some of the men went to
building up a fire, to prepare them some food. The Indians also joined
to bring in wood and continued till they brought in so much Clendenning
saw that their object was to set the house on fire and resented (?) it.
The Indians immediately ????to their arms, and used their tomahawks. C.
was a great Indian fighter, had been in several Indian encounters, and
they knew this well, but this time he seemed disposed to run and leave
his wife. He was shot through the body 7 times, just as he jumped out
at the door but so late that he fell in the yard.. The other men were
also killed and the 2 women and child taken prisoner. Mrs. C and the
Dutch girl carried the child by turns, and thus spelling and relieving
each other from fatigue were enabled to save its life. On the second or
third days travel the women being accustomed to fall behind as they
would have occasion to stop. Mrs. C. unobserved stopped and crept under
one of the grapevines which in the western part of Virginia spread low
on the ground, till they form a pretty good cover for concealment. It
was not long however before she was missing, and some Indians followed
along back right by her trail and were gone 2 hours before they
returned, possibly on up without ever suspecting her hiding place. Mrs.
C found her way back to the camp and spent one night lying beside the
dead body of her husband. The next day after this she got to the
settlement and a company was ?????and came and buried the dead. The
Dutch girl carried on the child an took care of it being allowed to
raise it. At the end of the Revolutionary War they were both
exchanged. When Mrs. Cs little girl was ?????, she ?????????would
know her to be hers by a mark she would have on her foot. She had been
bled in infancy in her foot and the place got very sore so that when it
healed it left a mark with it, a scar. She had come by this time to be
quite a ?????of a little girl. Her mother in this time had gotten
married to one Matthew Arbuckle, and she was taken home to live with
her. (Matthew Arbuckle*) We left them about ???????there some place
when we came to KY. Clendenin was a great soldier. As was also his
father. He was scarified by the Indians till as they used to say of
him, he looked like an old raccoon dog. John C. another son, brother to
Archy moved, in very early times down into Holston (?) shots around
the ???
The rest seems to talk about other than Clendenins...All of this is in
Shaws handwriting and is very difficult to read as I have said
before....For what ever reason I can not seem to make the footnotes work
so here they are:
1. I will star (*) the things that I attribute to Draper.
2. he scribbled something out here
3. Shane did not spell it that way--I could not for sure read his
writing but would guess Clendenninn
I finally am getting a chance to sit down and type up the information
that I copied in January or February about the Clendenin Massacre. If
you remember I did a sort of preliminary research paper last year on
this subject. I am hoping to do a final paper for my files
someday...but I have several other sources that I want to read
first...but this account is quite different from any that I have read
before...so I share it in whole with all of you. It seems to be very
sensible even though it does not follow the story that we have heard
before and I have the feeling that there may be some truth in this
version.
There is an indication that there may be an account of this event
among the genealogy information of the Ewing Family. Any one know
anything about that? I would certainly like to hear the version that
was handed down by John Ewing in his family folklore before I ever write
up a final guess as to what really happened...
Let me say that this was very difficult reading. I left many words
blank and came back to fill them in after grasping the meaning of the
passage. So this version is at times my best guess...but I spent
several days on my interpretation...so it is the best that i can do....I
will type it up and send it along with my next e-mail....feel free to
pass it along if you know someone else who might like to read
it....Marsha in WV
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> From: CLENDINEN-D-request(a)rootsweb.com
> To: CLENDINEN-D(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: CLENDINEN-D Digest V99 #42
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 5:47 PM
>
Robert Keith McSwain, reference your posting to Clendinen Deeds regarding
David McSwain. Please contact me at mcswain(a)world-net.net. Was not able
to contact address given to respond by automatic notice. Earl
In a message dated 3/25/99 10:19:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
KCEvans99(a)aol.com writes:
> ohn RODGERS
> m: 1767 Augusta Co. VA
> Ann McSwain CLENDENNIN (Archibald)
> relocated to Greenbrier Co. VA 1773
Descendants of Ann McSwain
1 Ann McSwain b: 30 March 1738 in Lancaster, PA
. +Archibald Clendenin b: Abt. 1730 in Cumberland, PA d: 27 June 1763 in
Levels, Augusta, VA Alt. date: 15 July 1763 Death
.... 2 John Clendenin d: Abt. 1763 in VA
.... 2 Jane Clendenin b: 1758 in Augusta, VA d: in Greenbrier, VA
........ +John Davis
.... 2 Infant Clendenin b: Abt. 1760 in Augusta, VA d: July 1763 in
Augusta, VA
*2nd Husband of Ann McSwain:
. +John Rodgers m: 1767
Please forgive me. I was thinking ahead but I was not thinking completely.
My address is Sharon Bryant
518 West Little Creek Road
Norfolk, VA 23505-3345
Thanks to everyone who responded asking for this information.
Sharon
P. S. This supervisory position has been a real eye-opener. I thought it was
bad enough trying to keep track of me; now I have 10 other people to keep
track of as well. Some of them I have not laid eyes on in months. I keep
asking God to give me strength!
Hi: Just joined list. Hoping to find any info on
John RODGERS
m: 1767 Augusta Co. VA
Ann McSwain CLENDENNIN (Archibald)
relocated to Greenbrier Co. VA 1773
Thanks in advance
Kathy
Hi to all of the Clendenin Cousins,
I would like to urge all of you to send some financial aid to keep this
list going. I have 'found' two cousins, however far removed, Janetta
Cambron and Robert Clendenin, and I am please as Punch! I could have
spent the $10.00 on stamps and never have met either.....a very good
investment indeed.
If ten members sent $10. or twenty sent $5., well, I am sure get the
picture.
Betty in Idaho
Tom,
The Fauquier Co. VA personal property tax list for 1787 includes George and
John Glendenny.
The 1810 VA census includes George Glendenning of Fauquier.
The 1800 Fauquier Co. will of Peter Bowers names granddaughter Betsy
Glendenning
Fauquier marriages:
George Glendenning (Clendenning) and Milly Duncan 31 Jan 1786
Peggy Clendenning and Steven Roe 23 Oct. 1799
Nelly Clendenning and John Rossen 22 Feb 1791
Nancy Clendenning and William Ellis 22 Dec. 1789
Several years ago I had a letter from a descendant of the above Nancy
Clendenning and William Ellis. If you think they could be related to the
family you are searching, I'll dig it out.
Leah
Hope I don't get in Dutch for this but thought it might be of interest
to all the Scottish lines. Maybe some there can do look ups once in a
while - after it is on the shelf.
Betty in Idaho
NEWS OF INTEREST TO SCOTTISH RESEARCHERS
The British Isles Family History Society-U.S.A. has just
acquired Peter Gouldesbrough's Formulary of Old Scots
Legal Documents. This out-of-print book contains a goldmine
of information. Because legal documents are usually
written in a standard format, the Formulary will help you
to read them. It is especially useful when trying to read old
documents written in Latin; the Latin text appears with an
English translation. This book will be available in the Los
Angeles Family History Center at the BIFHS-USA general
meeting on Sunday, March 28. After the meeting, it will be
cataloged and put on the shelf. We are extremely excited
about this acquisition because Linda looked for this book
when she was in Scotland and couldn't find it. Thank you
Wanda Starman for locating a copy for all of us to use.
More news:
We have recently ordered the Scottish testaments on
microfilm for the following courts: Argyll, Brechin,
Caithness, Dumfries, Dunblane, and Dunkeld. These
should all be available in our collection at the Los Angeles
Family History Center. The Scottish testaments are all
indexed. For more information about these records, see
the Guide to British Isles Research on our website:
<www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa/>
More news:
The British Isles Family History Society is currently
working to complete the 1891 census of Scotland. We
greatly appreciate any and all donations, and your
contribution will be matched.
Do you have questions about Scottish research? Ask
our panel of experts at the next BIFHS-USA general
meeting on Sunday, March 28 at 1 p.m. We hope to
see you there!
Boy, it doesn't seem like it's been a year but if I remember correctly we
first set up our webpage in April of last year. It will need to be renewed
and the fee should be in the area of $100 for the next year.
If you want to keep it going consider making a donation to the cause. They
should be sent to me since I'm the one who is the registered owner (with
Rootsweb) for the Clendinen Family Research Page.
Those of you who contributed last year - check your records and see if it
was the April time frame for me. Thanks.
Sharon
Try www.higginsonbooks.com/
Found:
Clendenin, Myers and Mills families and various related families in the
South. By Baird, Catchings and Torrey; 181p 1923 $28.00
Betty in Idaho
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Cooper [mailto:coopertlc@webtv.net]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 4:52 PM
To: SharonBryant(a)worldnet.att.net
Subject: Clendenning
Dear Sharon
I am looking for information on a Clendenning family who lived in Focquire
County Virginia later moved to Bourbon and Scott Countys Kentucky. I am
related to a Francis Clendenning born in 1812 in Focquire Co. Va died about
1900 in Iowa married William Harris of Missouri Would you have any info.
that could help me with this small amount of info I have?
Thank You
Tom Cooper.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Clendinneng [mailto:dennisjc@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 1999 12:50 PM
To: SharonBryant(a)worldnet.att.net
Cc: dennisc(a)blader.com
Subject: Clendinneng family name
Hi Sharon,
While searching for links on my family name I came across one that referred
me to you. I don't know too much about the name other than being able to
trace it back to Ireland (Cavan County I think).
take care
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__o Dennis Clendinneng
_ \<,_ dennisc(a)blader.com
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