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Hi everybody,
I'm packing but can't stay away from the computer -- I asked the
Scotch-Irish mailing list resident expert on surname sources about
Houston/Huston, following is his response.
>>------HOUSTON,the ancient family originally bore the name of PADUINAN.This
family received lands in Lanarkshire confirmed by Walter Fitz-Alan ,the High
Steward.The barony then took the Saxon name of HUSTON after the old
lords.This was sometime in the 13 th.century. This account...from Black. ...
very old
families of prominence,you should have fun with these.
I have to keep telling myself I've got to get going.
Sharon
Here is a list of those people who sent their "free will" offerings to
support our move to Rootsweb.
(Note: Some have been mentioned before but in all the confusion I am lost as
to which ones I have mentioned previously).
Betty Rossow
Mary Louise Townsend
Marina DeCeco
Donald E. Clendenin
Honey Lanham
Michael & Suzanne Glendening
Sarah Swindell
David McGraw (believe it or not, David is the gentleman who sent the results
of a "find" to a mutual correspondent in Ft. Wayne, IN. Marilyn sent the
information to me and it was as a result of that interchange that I located
my Clendinen ancestress, when I didn't even know I had one!) Thanks for
everything, Dave.
The site is now paid for for August 1998 to July 1999. Again, thank you. I'm
writing a check to get it off my plastic and you have no idea how much that
pleases me.
Sharon
Hate to do this, but Uncle says I have to go on the road again. I'm off to
Hagerstown MD and will be there until late 11th September. Then, merciful
heavens, I get to stay at home for awhile.
At any rate, Hagerstown is one of those no-place towns that my server does
not have a local access number for. But I'm not worried because you're such
a great group that you have a tendency to take care of yourselves.
My only reason for mentioning it is because I will download messages once a
day. I will go off-line to answer them and they will be transmitted the next
day.
Keep digging. I have some great information that I will be preparing to put
on the web page as soon as I get home. Got to get the bags packed.
Sharon
The power's back on, folks, as you can see. Thank you for all your prayers
and good thoughts. I have a yard to clean up - downed leaf clusters, etc. -
but other than not having power for the past 29 hours we're doing fine.
I must have lost 15 pounds due to lack of cooled air but thank goodness it
is on now because they're calling for 90-95 tomorrow.
There are a couple of other people on the list, one from Virginia Beach,
which took the brunt of the storm and one from North Carolina. Ladies, I
hope you are okay. Get in touch and let me know how you are.
Thanks again, folks.
Please check the entry in the latter paragraphs about that one thousand
family migration to America.
-----Original Message-----
From: linda garrett [mailto:fredd1907@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 3:56 AM
To: Scotch-Irish-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: 1880's description of "Scotch-Irish"
I was looking at "The History of Bedford, Somerset, Fulton Counties" (PA) on
microfilm at the library the other day and wanted to share what this book
written in the late 1880's had to say about the term: "Scotch-Irish"
The term "Scotch-Irish" is one so frequently used, and so little
understood, that it is considered appropriate in this place to explain its
derivation. It appears that in the time of James I, of England, the Irish
Earls of Tyrone and Tyrconnell conspired against his government, fled from
Ireland, were proclaimed outlaws, and their estates, consisting of about
five hundred thousand acres of land, were seized by the crown. The king
divided these lands into small tracts and gave them to persons from his own
country (Scotland) because they were Protestants, on the sole condition that
they would cross over into Ireland within four years and reside upon them
permanently. A second insurrection soon after gave occasion for another
large forfeiture, and nearly six counties in the province of Ulster were
confiscated, and taken possession of by the officers of the government. King
James was a zealous sectarian, and his primary object was to root out the
native Irish, who were all Cathol!
ics hostile to his government, and almost constantly plotting against it,
and to re-people the country with those whom he knew would be loyal. The
distance from Scotland to County Antrim, in Ireland, was but twenty miles.
The lands thus offered free of cost were among the best and most productive
in the Emerald Isle, though blasted and made barren by the troubles of the
times and the indolence of a degraded peasantry. Having the power of the
government to encourage and protect them, the inducements offered to the
industrious Scotch could not be resisted. Thousands went over. Many of them,
though not lords, were lairds, and all were men of enterprise and energy,
and above the average in intelligence. They went to work to restore the land
to fruitfulness and to show the superiority of habits and belief to those of
the natives among whom they settled. They soon made the counties of Antrim,
Armagh, Caven, Donegal, cown, Fermanagh, Londonderry, Monaghan, and Tyrone -
names familia!
r to Pennsylvanians - to blossom as the rose.
These, the first Protestants introduced into Ireland, at once secured the
ascendancy in the counties which they settled, and their descendants have
maintained that ascendancy to the present day against the efforts of the
government church on the one hand and the Romanists on the other. They did
not intermarry with the Irish who surrounded them. The Scotch were Saxon in
blood, and Presbyterian in religion, while the Irish were Celtic in blood
and Roman Catholic in religion, and these were elements that would not
readily coalesce. Hence the races are as distinct in Ireland today, after a
lapse of more than two hundred and fifty years, as when the Scotch first
crossed over. The term "Scotch-Irish" is purely American. It is not used in
Ireland, and here it was given to the Protestant emigrants from the north of
Ireland, simply because they were the descendants of the Scots who had in
former times taken up their residence there.
In after times, under Catholic governments, the descendants of the Scots in
Ireland were bitterly persecuted, and prior to 1764, large numbers had
immigrated and settled in New Jersy, Pennsylvania, Maryland and North
Carolina. In September, 1736 alone, one thousand families sailed from
Belfast because of their inability to renew their leases upon satisfactory
terms, and the most of them settled in the eastern and middle counties of
Pennsylvania. They hoped, by a change of residence to find an unrestrained
field for the exercise of their industry and skill, and for the enjoyment of
their religious opinions. They brought with them a hatred of oppression, and
a love of freedom in its fullest measure, that served much to give that
independent tone to the sentiments of the people of the province which
prevailed in their controversies with the home government years before they
seriously
Hi,
I'm still on-line, at least for right now. A couple of hours ago the "witch"
was 200 miles south-southeast of us. I had expected it to be raining when I
woke this morning but it seems eerily calm out there.
My son thinks we're over-reacting but he's the one with the comic collection
worth thousands of dollars who really did nothing to protect it. Not going
in the car if we have to evacuate.
My daughter had her and my grandson's bags packed when I arrived home from
work yesterday. And last night we spent trying to protect my books. I have
hundreds of genealogy books -- sources and references -- that I have
collected over the years and there was just no way to take them anywhere. We
ended up with plastic taped over the bookcases. As she said "my, I like what
you've done with the decor!" Clendinen information ready to go to the car.
Computer is backed up.
I was going to call the insurance agent today to make sure my policy covered
hurricane type damage -- wind and water -- but just read a local report
stating that the insurance companies ceased issued new insurance yesterday
when the Hurricane warning was announced. You can bet your boots I'll check
on it after she leaves.
Well, I'm going back to the web page. Got a one-name study on Archibald
Glendinnings occurring in the Scottish Church Records yesterday without
warning from a lady who took it upon herself to check the CD at her local
LDS FHC, so I am in the process of typing it up.
The naval base is closed down; so today is mine to do as I wish. Am going to
try to get some files organized also.
Have a good one.
Sharon
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to let you know that here in beautiful Norfolk, VA we seem to be
expecting a visitor or at least feeling her presence.
So I'm in the process of determining what is precious and irreplacable and
important enough to include in a plastic bag if we have to evacuate.
I'm also saying prayers that the "wicked witch of the east" turns back out
to sea.
If I am off-line for a while don't worry about it. I'll get back as soon as
I'm able. In the meantime, keep us in your thoughts. Maybe together we can
think her back to sea.
Sharon
Well, I'm afraid I have to announce that ...
WE DID IT! WE'RE ON ROOTSWEB AS OF 8:15 P.M. (EDT) TODAY.
Just finished uploading to the new site:
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~clendin
Please bookmark this URL and discard the previous one - ie.,
http://home.att.net/~SharonBryant
I want to take this opportunity to say a big thank you to some people who
decided to help pay for this year's service through Rootsweb:
Donald & Ardith L. Clendenin
Marina & Ralph DeCeco
Mary Louise & Robert Evan Townsend
Honey Lanham
A special thank you goes to Honey who sent a little extra marking it for
"research, supplies, expenses or whatever." I used that extra to download
some births, christenings, and marriages from the Scottish Record Office in
Edinburgh.
Honey, I found three Archibald Glendinnings -- my money is on the one in
Westerkirk, b 1704, m 1724 with children.
I hope everyone enjoys! If you have any problems getting into the new
website please let me know. Tell your friends, your neighbors but most
especially tell your relatives.
Thank you all,
Sharon
Sorry, Sandy. Didn't mean to do that. I was just thinking that when we can't
find an ancestor on the census records we should stop and think about the
hardships they went through, etc. etc.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SandraG627(a)aol.com [mailto:SandraG627@aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 1998 2:26 PM
> To: CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CLENDINEN-L] FW: Poem
>
>
> Well, this made me cry, I could see this woman sitting there in
> the woods with
> the children all around....
> Sandy in Fla
>
>
> ==== CLENDINEN Mailing List ====
>
>
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom&Carol Miller [mailto:4millers@sprintmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 1998 4:04 AM
To: MILLER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [MILLER-L] Poem
Thought you might all enjoy this:
It was the first day of census, and all through the land
>>each pollster was ready ... a black book in hand.
>>He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride,
>>his book and some quills were tucked close by his side.
>>A long winding ride down a road barely there,
>>toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air.
>>
>>The woman was tired, with lines on her face
>>and wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place.
>>She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table
>>and she answered his questions ... the best she was able.
>>He asked her of children. Yes, she had quite a few --
>>the oldest was twenty, the youngest not two.
>>
>>She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red;
>>his sister, she whispered, was napping in bed.
>>She noted each person who lived there with pride,
>>and she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside.
>>He noted the sex, the color, the age...
>>the marks from the quill soon filled up the page.
>>
>>At the number of children, she nodded her head
>>and saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead.
>>The places of birth she "never forgot"
>>was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not?
>>They came from Scotland, of that she was clear,
>>but she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here.
>>
>>They spoke of employment, of schooling and such,
>>they could read some ... and write some ... though really not much.
>>When the questions were answered, his job there was done
>>so he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun.
>>We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear,
>>"May God bless you all for another ten years."
>>
>>Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me
>>as we search for the people on our family tree.
>>We squint at the census and scroll down so slow
>>as we search for that entry from long, long ago.
>>Could they only imagine on that long ago day
>>that the entries they made would effect us this way?
>>
>>If they knew would they wonder at the yearning we feel
>>and the searching that makes them so increasingly real.
>>We can hear if we listen the words they impart
>>through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart.
>>
>>--- Author unknown.
-----Original Message-----
From: CLENDINEN-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:CLENDINEN-L-request@rootsweb.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 1998 2:50 PM
To: dbabcock(a)voyager.net
Cc: owner-CLENDINEN(a)bl-30.rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: books
>From CLENDINEN-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
> --------------431393F9E3CBBC7A152A151E
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Hello:
> I found this in my search.....thought I would share with others.
Maybe
> of some help.
> TITLE: John Chewe, some descendents in Virginia, Maryland, and Ohio /
> AUTHOR(S): Chew, Dorothy Clendenin, 1914- (Main) Chew, Mahlon
> Hopkinson, 1912-
> (Added)
> PUBLISHED: [Dalton, Ga. (1212 West Lake Shore Dr., Dalton 30720)] :
> D.C. Chew, [1982]
> DESCRIPTION: 26 leaves ; 29 cm.
> NOTES: Title from label on cover. Bibliography: leaf 26.
> SUBJECTS: Chew family.
> LC CALL NO.: CS71.C5281982
> DEWEY CLASS NO.: 929/.2/0973 ED: 19
> FORMAT: Book
> LCCN: 82-145054
> Genealogical Publications: A List of 50,000 Sources from the Library
of
> Congress
> Genealogical Sources
> TITLE: Mason County, W.Va. cemetery inscriptions /
> AUTHOR(S): Machir, Violette S. (Violette Somerville), 1915- (Main)
> Burdette, Juanita K.
> (Added) Reed, Janet Gibbs. (Added)
> PUBLISHED: Pomeroy, OH : Meigs County Pioneer and Historical Society,
> 1989.
> DESCRIPTION: 5 v. ; 22-28 cm.
> NOTES: Vol. 3 compiled by Juanita K. Burdette. Vol. 5 compiled by
Janet
> Gibbs Reed and
> Violette S. Machir. Vols. 1-5 Reprints. Originally published: Quality
> Print Shop, 1972. Errata
> slips inserted in v. 1 and v. 5. CONTENTS: v. 1. Graham, Waggener,
> Robinson, and Lewis
> districts -- v. 2. Arbuckle, Clendenin, Hannan districts -- v. 3.
> Union, Cologne, Cooper districts
> -- v. 4. Kirkland, Suncrest, Lone Oak Addition, and Lone Oak -- v. 5.
> [without special title].
> SUBJECTS: Mason County (W.
> Va.)--Genealogy.
> Registers of births, etc.--West Virginia--Mason County.
> Cemeteries--West Virginia--Mason County.
> Inscriptions--West Virginia--Mason County.
> LC CALL NO.: F247.M4M331989
> DEWEY CLASS NO.: 929/.5/0975433 ED: 20
> FORMAT: Book
> LCCN: 90-167110
> Diane
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> <HTML>
> Hello:
> <P>I found this in my search.....thought I would share with
others.
> Maybe of some help.
> <BR>
> <P>TITLE: John Chewe, some descendents in Virginia, Maryland, and Ohio
> /
> <BR> AUTHOR(S): Chew, <B>Dorothy Clendenin</B>, 1914- (Main)
Chew,
> Mahlon Hopkinson, 1912-
> <BR> (Added)
> <BR> PUBLISHED: [Dalton, Ga. (1212 West Lake Shore Dr., Dalton
30720)]
> : D.C. Chew, [1982]
> <BR> DESCRIPTION: 26 leaves ; 29 cm.
> <BR> NOTES: Title from label on cover. Bibliography: leaf 26.
> <BR> SUBJECTS: Chew family.
> <BR> LC CALL NO.: CS71.C5281982
> <BR> DEWEY CLASS NO.: 929/.2/0973 ED: 19
> <BR> FORMAT: Book
> <BR> LCCN: 82-145054
> <BR>
> <P> Genealogical Publications: A List of 50,000 Sources from the
Library
> of Congress
> <BR> Genealogical Sources
> <P> TITLE: Mason County, W.Va. cemetery inscriptions /
> <BR> AUTHOR(S): Machir, Violette S. (Violette Somerville), 1915-
(Main)
> Burdette, Juanita K.
> <BR> (Added) Reed, Janet Gibbs. (Added)
> <BR> PUBLISHED: Pomeroy, OH : Meigs County Pioneer and Historical
> Society, 1989.
> <BR> DESCRIPTION: 5 v. ; 22-28 cm.
> <BR> NOTES: Vol. 3 compiled by Juanita K. Burdette. Vol. 5
compiled
> by Janet Gibbs Reed and
> <BR> Violette S. Machir. Vols. 1-5 Reprints. Originally
published:
> Quality Print Shop, 1972. Errata
> <BR> slips inserted in v. 1 and v. 5. CONTENTS: v. 1. Graham,
Waggener,
> Robinson, and Lewis
> <BR> districts -- v. 2. Arbuckle, <B>Clendenin</B>, Hannan
districts
> -- v. 3. Union, Cologne, Cooper districts
> <BR> -- v. 4. Kirkland, Suncrest, Lone Oak Addition, and Lone Oak
> -- v. 5. [without special title].
> <BR> SUBJECTS: Mason County (W.
> <BR> Va.)--Genealogy.
> <BR> Registers of births, etc.--West Virginia--Mason County.
> <BR> Cemeteries--West Virginia--Mason County.
> <BR> Inscriptions--West Virginia--Mason County.
> <BR> LC CALL NO.: F247.M4M331989
> <BR> DEWEY CLASS NO.: 929/.5/0975433 ED: 20
> <BR> FORMAT: Book
> <BR> LCCN: 90-167110
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <P>
> <BR>
> <P>Diane</HTML>
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Hi,
I have spent part of my time in the last 24 hours searching Scottish parish
records on-line.
I started off with Langholm Parish and was confirming information which we
already had and learning some new re other Glendinnings,etc. but I could not
come up with anything on William Glendenning's marriage to Kirkpatrick or
their children.
Because I still had several download credits available to me I decided to
check other parishes within a 20 mile radius and started with Westerkirk,
another Glendenning family site.
I don't know if this is going to help or not but ....
Archibald Glendinning, christened 27 Feb 1704, son of James Glendinning,
Westerkirk parish.
Archibald Glendinning married Jane Beatty, 18 Jun 1724, Westerkirk parish
Children christened Westerkirk parish, attributed to Archibald Glendinning:
1729, 16 Nov Jennet Glendinning
1731, 14 Nov James Glendinning
1734, 08 Dec John Glendinning
1738, 17 Dec James Glendinning
I'm thinking that Archibald Jr. could have been the first child and recorded
elsewhere, between marriage in 1724 and 1729.
Also I went back to James Glendinning, this Archibald Glendinning's father
and came up with what I think are siblings of Archibald's.
1702, 15 Mar Jennet Glendinning
1704 Archibald Glendinning
1706, 21 Apr James Glendinning
1707, 31 Aug Christopher Glendinning
Questions: Could James Clendenen who married Margaret Anderson be the son of
Archibald Glendinning and Jane Beatty? This James was b c 1738 and the James
we've been tracking was supposed to have been born in 1736.
I need feedback, folks. I'm getting more excited as I continue to
contemplate the alternatives here.
HI there, Adam Clendenin is my ancestor thru his son, Robert. Adam {Adams}
was never in Tennessee. He lived in Montgomery, VA until 1799 where he then
moved to the Green River area in 1799. In October, I believe it was. Adam's
daughter Mary and her husband, Abner Hamilton were alreay living in Barren, KY
in 1790.
I have no record of Adam Clendenin or Isaac after 1810 where they were both
listed in the 1810 Census of Barren, KY.. I am thinking that maybe he died
there. Also,. no proof that Adam is a son of Charles and Mary Anne. There is
proof that he owned land in Barren/Greene County. but no record of any land
sale, maybe a military warrant??? But he application for pension for the REV.
WAR was denied.
I hope this clears things up.
Debby
Dear Sandy,
Here's some information and some more questions:
Let's start at the beginning:
Virginia:
Augusta Co. formed 1738 from Orange Co.
Botetourt Co. formed 1769 from Augusta Co.
Fincastle Co. formed 1772, extinct in 1777
Montgomery Co. formed 1776 from Fincastle, Botetourt, & Pulaski.
Greenbrier Co. formed 1777 from Montgomery
Kentucky Co., VA became three counties - Fayette, Jefferson and Lincoln.
Green Co., KY formed 1793 from Lincoln and Nelson
Garrard Co., KY formed 1797 from Madison, Lincoln & Mercer
Rockcastle Co., KY formed 1810 from Pulaski, Lincoln, and Madison
Now, to your other questions: I'm afraid I only have questions as I have not
researched this line personally.
However, maybe these questions will elicit more information.
1) Has anyone checked the personal property tax lists for James Clendinen in
Virginia?
2) What was the last county he is enumerated in?
3) Have the deeds for that county been researched?
4) Does anyone have marriage certificates for any of the other children
showing place of marriage?
5) Does anyone have a copy of a will or an estate settlement for James
Clendinen?
A common denominator here seems to be Madison Co., KY which was formed in
1786 from Lincoln.
Back to Greenbrier for a minute. Shuck's Greenbrier Co. Deed & Will Records
does not contain entries for a James Clendinen (1750-1814 for deeds)
Elizabeth Clendinen and Caleb Knapp were married in 1787 in Greenbrier.
William and Helen Fowler were married in 1797 in Washington Co., VA
Shuck's Personal Property tax lists for Greenbrier Co. 1782-1815 does NOT
include James Clendenin.
James Clendenin appears only one in the Land Entry book by Shuck. He
assigned part of a state warrant to Spencer Cooper.
We don't have a location on the Josiah marriage and if I remember correctly
Patsy married Baldwin in Madison Co., KY.
Hope this gives someone from this line something to go on.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SandraG627(a)aol.com [mailto:SandraG627@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 1998 12:39 AM
> To: CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CLENDINEN-L] Green & Barren Cos.
>
>
> In a message dated 8/20/98 6:25:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> sshaw(a)terminal.cz
> writes:
> > I'm afraid I haven't a clue who Adams and Isaac were, but James
> and John in
> > Green Co. are from my Clendennon family-- James is James Clendenin, who
> > married Margaret Anderson in 1758 in Greenbrier Co., WVA and lived in
> > Sullivan Co., TN. He died 1810-1815 in Green Co., KY. He was
> the father of
> > my ancestress Mary (some say Rebecca, but Mary is the name she
> was always
> > referred to by in my family), who married William Sympson, and
> John, who
> > married William Sympson's sister, Mary Sympson (children of
> Henry Sympson,
>
> Does anyone know where Margaret and James were actually married??
> Greenbrier
> did not exist until 1778, and of course West Virginia did not exist until
> 1860.
>
> G'brier formed from Montgomery and Botetourt, Mont. formed in 1776 from
> Fincastle-which is now extinct, Fin. formed in 1772 from
> Botetourt. Fincastle
> was divided in 1776 to form Montgomery, Washington, and
> Kentucky--which is now
> the state. Kentucky b/c extinct in 1780 when the counties of Fayette,
> Jefferson and Lincoln [named for Maj Gen Benj. Lincoln] were formed in the
> district of KY.
> Also when was Green Co, KY formed? Garrard? Rockcastle? I have all these
> counties from different folks for James--I try to use the proper
> name of the
> place when the event actually occurred.
> Have we considered that James was in Kentucky area all along??
> When did he
> move there? My Elizabeth was m in Greenbrier in 1797--we have
> assumed her dad
> was James. Was James in the G'brier area in 1797?
> Wish the MR of Elizabeth listed her parents....
> Check below for some questions--I have been trying to get all the
> info in my
> new computer but have to work for a living :-)
>
> Sandy in Fla
> Descendants of James Clendenin
>
> 1 James Clendenin 1736 - 1810-1811
> . +Margaret Anderson 1743 - 1805
> .... 2 Hannah Anderson Clendenin 1759 -
> .... 2 John Clendenin 1760 - 1809-1836
> ........ +Mary Sympson
> .......... 3 John Clendenin 1794 - 1861
> .... 2 Mary Clendenin 1761 - 1853 looks like we have a
> Mary in this
> family?
> ........ +Charles Francis Boggs 1754 - 1837
> .... 2 Rebecca Clendenin 1762-1769 - 1836
> ........ +William Sympson
> .... 2 Elizabeth "Betsy" Clendenin 1767-1770 - Aft. 1830
> ........ +Caleb Knapp 1763-1767 - 1829-1830
> .......... 3 James Knapp Abt. 1790 -
> .............. +Lainey Haptonstall
> .......... 3 Moses Knapp Abt. 1791 - Abt. 1834
> .............. +Elizabeth Anderson Abt. 1794 -
> 1859 Who is her father?
> .......... 3 Joshua Knapp 1792-1793 - 1865
> .............. +Phoebe McDaniel Abt. 1795 - 1863
> .......... 3 John Knapp 1793 - 1880
> .............. +Jane Blair 1796 -
> .......... 3 Caleb Knapp 1798 - 1869
> .............. +Elizabeth Waugh 1796 - Bef. 1840
> .......... *2nd Wife of Caleb Knapp:
> .............. +Elizabeth Ratliff
> .......... 3 Abraham Knapp 1802 - 1878
> .............. +Jeanette B Taylor Abt. 1802 - 1853
> .......... *2nd Wife of Abraham Knapp:
> .............. +Mary A L Knapp 1828 - 1873
> .......... 3 Margaret "Peggy" Knapp 1807-1809 -
> .............. +Richard Walker
> .... 2 William Clendenin 1773 - 1844
> ........ +Helen Fowler
> .... 2 Josiah Clendenin 1775 -
> .... 2 Martha "Patsy" Clendenin 1780 - 1840-1850
> ........ +Joseph Baldwin
>
>
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Hold up here. I've got a problem. Sarah wrote that while she didn't know who
Adam and Isaac were the James and John in Green Co. were James Clendinen (m.
Margaret Anderson) and his son, John.
If this is true, who then is the James who is in Madison Co. at the same
time? Josiah who is also in Madison Co. is supposed to be a son of James &
Margaret above.
I'm confused.
In a message dated 8/20/98 6:25:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sshaw(a)terminal.cz
writes:
> I'm afraid I haven't a clue who Adams and Isaac were, but James and John in
> Green Co. are from my Clendennon family-- James is James Clendenin, who
> married Margaret Anderson in 1758 in Greenbrier Co., WVA and lived in
> Sullivan Co., TN. He died 1810-1815 in Green Co., KY. He was the father of
> my ancestress Mary (some say Rebecca, but Mary is the name she was always
> referred to by in my family), who married William Sympson, and John, who
> married William Sympson's sister, Mary Sympson (children of Henry Sympson,
Does anyone know where Margaret and James were actually married?? Greenbrier
did not exist until 1778, and of course West Virginia did not exist until
1860.
G'brier formed from Montgomery and Botetourt, Mont. formed in 1776 from
Fincastle-which is now extinct, Fin. formed in 1772 from Botetourt. Fincastle
was divided in 1776 to form Montgomery, Washington, and Kentucky--which is now
the state. Kentucky b/c extinct in 1780 when the counties of Fayette,
Jefferson and Lincoln [named for Maj Gen Benj. Lincoln] were formed in the
district of KY.
Also when was Green Co, KY formed? Garrard? Rockcastle? I have all these
counties from different folks for James--I try to use the proper name of the
place when the event actually occurred.
Have we considered that James was in Kentucky area all along?? When did he
move there? My Elizabeth was m in Greenbrier in 1797--we have assumed her dad
was James. Was James in the G'brier area in 1797?
Wish the MR of Elizabeth listed her parents....
Check below for some questions--I have been trying to get all the info in my
new computer but have to work for a living :-)
Sandy in Fla
Descendants of James Clendenin
1 James Clendenin 1736 - 1810-1811
. +Margaret Anderson 1743 - 1805
.... 2 Hannah Anderson Clendenin 1759 -
.... 2 John Clendenin 1760 - 1809-1836
........ +Mary Sympson
.......... 3 John Clendenin 1794 - 1861
.... 2 Mary Clendenin 1761 - 1853 looks like we have a Mary in this
family?
........ +Charles Francis Boggs 1754 - 1837
.... 2 Rebecca Clendenin 1762-1769 - 1836
........ +William Sympson
.... 2 Elizabeth "Betsy" Clendenin 1767-1770 - Aft. 1830
........ +Caleb Knapp 1763-1767 - 1829-1830
.......... 3 James Knapp Abt. 1790 -
.............. +Lainey Haptonstall
.......... 3 Moses Knapp Abt. 1791 - Abt. 1834
.............. +Elizabeth Anderson Abt. 1794 - 1859 Who is her father?
.......... 3 Joshua Knapp 1792-1793 - 1865
.............. +Phoebe McDaniel Abt. 1795 - 1863
.......... 3 John Knapp 1793 - 1880
.............. +Jane Blair 1796 -
.......... 3 Caleb Knapp 1798 - 1869
.............. +Elizabeth Waugh 1796 - Bef. 1840
.......... *2nd Wife of Caleb Knapp:
.............. +Elizabeth Ratliff
.......... 3 Abraham Knapp 1802 - 1878
.............. +Jeanette B Taylor Abt. 1802 - 1853
.......... *2nd Wife of Abraham Knapp:
.............. +Mary A L Knapp 1828 - 1873
.......... 3 Margaret "Peggy" Knapp 1807-1809 -
.............. +Richard Walker
.... 2 William Clendenin 1773 - 1844
........ +Helen Fowler
.... 2 Josiah Clendenin 1775 -
.... 2 Martha "Patsy" Clendenin 1780 - 1840-1850
........ +Joseph Baldwin
>Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:09:11 -0000
>From: "Sharon Bryant" <SharonBryant(a)worldnet.att.net>
>To: CLENDINEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [CLENDINEN-L] Barren and Green Cos., KY
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>I was posting some material to the web when I ran across a puzzler that I
>wanted so input on.
>
>The "Second Census" of Kentucky, 1800 (really tax lists)
>has the following Clendinen (variants) in the following counties.
>
>Clendenan, James Madison Co.
>Clendenan, Josiah Madison Co.
>Now we think we know who these men are.
>
>Clendinning, Robert Bourbon Co.
>Clendinning, Thomas Bourbon Co.
>We definitely know who these guys are.
>
>Clendennon, Adams Barren
>Clendennon, Isaac Barren
>Clendennon, James Green
>Clendennon, John Green
>
>Now listen up: Barren Co. was formed in 1799 from GREEN and Warren.
>
>My question is this: Could James and John of Green Co., KY in 1800 be the
>sons of Adam(s) Clendennon along with Isaac?
>
>The 1800 "second census" is very specific in the spellings of the last
>names. There seems to be a pattern between the spelling and the county in
>which these people were residing.
>
>Any thoughts, anybody?
>
>Sharon
I'm afraid I haven't a clue who Adams and Isaac were, but James and John in
Green Co. are from my Clendennon family-- James is James Clendenin, who
married Margaret Anderson in 1758 in Greenbrier Co., WVA and lived in
Sullivan Co., TN. He died 1810-1815 in Green Co., KY. He was the father of
my ancestress Mary (some say Rebecca, but Mary is the name she was always
referred to by in my family), who married William Sympson, and John, who
married William Sympson's sister, Mary Sympson (children of Henry Sympson,
according to William's Rev. pension records). William Sympson enlisted for
one of his stints of service in the Revolution as a substitute for John
Clendenin, presumably his brother-in-law. Also according to Rev. Pension
records he moved to KY in 1795 and to Green Co. in 1796. That James and Mary
(Sympson) Clendennon were also in Green Co. is confirmed by information on
their children's places of birth.
As to the spelling, Clendennon is the way the name was always spelled in my
family-- I didn't even know that there were other ways until I started
researching it recently.
Looking at my database I think I may have a solution to who 'Adams and
Isaac' were too-- James, son of Charles and Mary Ann (Patterson?) had a
brother Adam with a son Isaac. Could it be 'Adam' rather than 'Adams'? I
have no information on where this family lived, but it seems like a good
possibility that Adam also moved to TN and then to KY with his brother,
given that families very often travelled together.
Hope this helps!
-- Sarah Shaw Tatounova
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Hi everyone,
I was posting some material to the web when I ran across a puzzler that I
wanted so input on.
The "Second Census" of Kentucky, 1800 (really tax lists)
has the following Clendinen (variants) in the following counties.
Clendenan, James Madison Co.
Clendenan, Josiah Madison Co.
Now we think we know who these men are.
Clendinning, Robert Bourbon Co.
Clendinning, Thomas Bourbon Co.
We definitely know who these guys are.
Clendennon, Adams Barren
Clendennon, Isaac Barren
Clendennon, James Green
Clendennon, John Green
Now listen up: Barren Co. was formed in 1799 from GREEN and Warren.
My question is this: Could James and John of Green Co., KY in 1800 be the
sons of Adam(s) Clendennon along with Isaac?
The 1800 "second census" is very specific in the spellings of the last
names. There seems to be a pattern between the spelling and the county in
which these people were residing.
Any thoughts, anybody?
Sharon