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Thomas Rufus Clendinen's grave is one of the 20 missing, of almost 300 cadet
graves we have been searching for. Our goal is to locate the graves of all
of the Battle of New Market cadets, so they can be honored every New Market
Day along with the cadets killed in the battle and buried at VMI.
We are stumped, and could really use your help!
Thomas Rufus Clendinen died March 25, 1910 in Riverdale, MD. From an
obituary, we know that his body was taken to Harpers Ferry for burial.
Harper's Ferry was a train stop, so it is more probable that his body was
taken to Bolivar Heights. His second wife, Mrs. Mary H English, was from
Charles Town; so he may have been buried there.
This is what VMI archives say about his family:
Thomas Rufus Clendinen, Class of 1867: New Market Cadet; Private, Co. D.
Genealogy: Born- March 31, 1847, in Baltimore, Md.
Father- Dr. Alexander Clendinen
Mother- Marie Louise Belt
Pat. Grandparents- unknown.
Mat. Grandparents- unknown.
Married- 1st Wife: Alice Shriver;
2nd Wife: Mary H.English, in 1908.
Children- 1st Marriage:
1st: Alice; 2nd: Rose.
Career: Lawyer.
Died- March 25, 1910, at Riverdale, Prince George Co., Md.
I have the census images from 1870, 80, 1900, and the obituary notices if
anyone related would like them. We have been advised that he is not in the
cemetery listings, but those books are not necessarily complete. The
Jefferson County Historical Society has told me that the two cemetery books
covering Jefferson Co. VA/WV burials did not include Thomas Rufus Clendenin
or Clendinin. There are Clendennings and Clendenings buried in the county,
but no Clendenins. The
only cemetery in Bolivar, WV is Fairview Lutheran Cemetery and there is no
Clendenins listed there, but it is certainly possible that he was buried
there
but has no tombstone. The Clendenin name is a more common name in Kanawha
Co., WV where the town of Charleston, WV, the state capitol, is named for
Charles Clendenin and his decendants located a short distance away at
Clendenin, WV. Harpers Ferry is just across the river from Maryland, Charles
Town is just west, and the capital, Charleston, is in the Ohio River valley
of the west.
Terry Bowers (VMI '68 Augusta, GA) started the search and has created a
database of all the cadets at
http://www.augustagavmiaa.info/new_market_database.htm . He and Terry Dorn
(VMI '78 of Virginia) are searching and photographing, while I am helping
research. The website I created with history and photos is at
http://www.picturetrail.com/vminewmarket .
Thanks for any help or suggestions you might provide.
Sarah Reveley
descendant of cadet George Francis Reveley
Appomattox, Virginia (still missing)
Hello,
I thought this might be of interest to those of you who are trying to
connect from the Americas or elsewhere to Scotland or Ireland (or in some
cases, to both).
I found particularly interesting the fact that some changed their name
depending on the clan/family in prominence in the area in which they lived,
i.e., the "boll meal" Frasers.
I find myself in somewhat of a quandry. I have documented proof of descent
from a Fraser-Glenduning marriage in Edinburgh in 1683. My maiden name was
neither of these two names. And I do not have proof of descent or
connection, at this point, to the Glendinnings in either Scotland or
Ireland.
The Douglases do not, currently, have a standing Chief recognized by the
Lyon Court.
Sharon
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Rorer" <drorer(a)fuse.net>
To: <scot-dna(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:34 AM
Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Clan or family affiliation (long)
> Since there have been a few questions about the origin of the clans I
> thought a
> this would be appropriate
>
> David Rorer
>
> Clans, Families and Septs by Sir Crispin Agnew of Lochnaw Bt., 13th August
> 2001(found on Electric Scotland)
> The difference between clans, families and septs is the source of many
> questions
> as is the question phrased in one way or another, which asks, "to which
> clan do
> I belong". There are many definitions of clans and families as there are
> people,
> but this article will try to indicate how these matters are viewed in the
> Lyon
> Court.
> It should first be recognized that a clan or family is a legally
> recognized
> group in Scotland, which has a corporate identity in the same way that a
> company, club or partnership has a corporate identity in law. A clan or
> family
> is a ''noble incorporation" because it has an officially recognized chief
> or
> head who being a nobleman of Scotland confers his noble status on the clan
> or
> family, thus making it a legally and statutorily recognized noble
> corporation
> often called "the Honorable Clan..." A name group, which does not have a
> chief,
> has no official position in the law of Scotland. The chiefs Seal of Arms,
> incorporated by the Lord Lyon's letters Patent, is the seal of the
> corporation,
> like a company seal, but only the chief is empowered by law to seal
> important
> documents on behalf of his clan. A clan as a noble incorporation is
> recognized
> as the chief's heritable property - he owns it in law and is responsible
> for its
> administration and development.
> So far the words clan and family have been used interchangeably in this
> article
> and this is the position. There is now a belief that clans are Highland
> and
> families are Lowland but this is really a development of the Victorian
> era. In
> an Act of Parliament of 1597 we have the description of the "Chiftanis and
> chieffis of all clannis...duelland in the hielands or bordouris" thus
> using the
> word clan to describe both Highland and Lowland families. Further, Sir
> George MacKenzie of Rosehaugh, the Lord Advocate (Attorney General)
> writing in
> 1680 said "By the term 'chief' we call the representative of the family
> from the
> word chef or head and in the Irish (Gaelic) with us the chief of the
> family is
> called the head of the clan''. So it can be seen that all along the words
> chief
> or head and clan or family are interchangeable. It is therefore quite
> correct to
> talk of the MacDonald family or the Stirling clan, although modern
> conventions
> would probably dictate that it was the MacDonald clan and Stirling family.
> The
> Lyon Court usually describes the chief of a clan or family as either the
> ''Chief
> of the Name and Arms" or as "Chief of the Honorable Clan - -"
> Who belongs to what clan is of course, a matter of much difficulty,
> particularly
> today when the concept of clan is worldwide. Historically, in Scotland a
> chief
> was chief of "the cuntrie". He was chief of his clan territory and the
> persons
> who lived therein, although certain of his immediate family, would owe him
> allegiance wherever they were living. The majority of his followers and in
> particular his battle relatively to a neighboring chief, they would switch
> their
> allegiance to the other chief. Thus we find that when Lord Lovat took over
> a
> neighboring glen to his clan territory for the donation of a boll of meal
> to
> each family, the family was persuaded to change their name to Fraser and
> owe him
> allegiance - to this day they are called the "boll meal Frasers". Another
> example is a migration of a family of the Macleans from the West Coast to
> near
> Inverness and on moving to Inverness they changed their allegiance from
> the
> Maclean chief to the chiefs of the Clan Chattan. Thus the Macleans of
> Dochgarroch and their descendants and dependants are properly members of
> the
> Clan Chattan and not members of the Clan Maclean even though they bear a
> common
> surname.
> A chief was also entitled to add to his clan by the adoption of families
> or
> groups of families to membership of his clan, a good example being the
> "boll
> meal Frasers". Equally, a chief has and had the power to expel or exclude
> particular persons from membership of his clan and this included blood
> members
> of his family. It was his legal right to outlaw certain persons from his
> clan.
> This is accepted in the modern sense to mean that a chief is empowered to
> accept
> anyone he wishes to be a member of his clan or decree that his clan
> membership
> shall be limited to particular groups or names of people. All persons who
> bear
> the chief's surname are deemed to be members of his clan. Equally, it is
> generally accepted that someone who determines to offer their allegiance
> to the
> chief shall be recognized as a member of that clan unless the chief has
> decreed
> that he will not accept such a person's allegiance, Thus, if a person
> offers his
> allegiance to a particular chief by joining his clan society or by wearing
> his
> tartan, he can be deemed to have elected to join that particular clan and
> should
> be viewed as a member of that clan unless the chief particularly states
> that he
> or his name group are not to be allowed to join the clan.
> It should also be said that the various Sept lists, which are published in
> the
> various Clans and Tartan books, have no official authority. They merely
> represent some person's, (usually in the Victorian eras) views of which
> name
> groups were in a particular clan's territory. Thus we find members of a
> clan
> described, as being persons owing allegiance to their chief "be pretence
> of blud
> or place of thare duelling". In addition to blood members of the clan,
> certain
> families have a tradition (even if the tradition can with the aid of
> modern
> records can be shown to be wrong) descent from a particular clan chief.
> They
> are, of course, still recognized as being members of the clan.
> Historically, the concept of "clan territory" also gives rise to
> difficulty,
> particularly as certain names or Septs claim allegiance to a particular
> chief,
> because they come from his territory. The extent of the territory of any
> particular chief varied from time to time depending on the waxing and
> waning of
> his power. Thus a particular name living on the boundaries of a clan's
> territory
> would find that while the chiefs power was on the up they would owe him
> allegiance but - if his power declined retrospectively at some arbitrary'
> date
> which the compiler of the list has selected. Often the names are
> Scotland-wide
> and so it is difficult to say that particular name belongs to a particular
> clan.
> Often surnames are shown as potentially being members of a number of
> clans, and
> this is because a number of that name has been found in each different
> clan's
> territory. Generally speaking, if a person has a particular sept name
> which can
> he attributed to a number of clans, either they should determine from what
> part
> of Scotland their family originally came and owe allegiance to the clan of
> that
> area or, alternatively, if they do not know where they came from, they
> should
> perhaps owe allegiance to the clan to which their family had traditionally
> owed
> allegiance. Alternatively, they may offer their allegiance to any of the
> particular named clans in the hope that the chief will accept them as a
> member
> of his clan. Equally, as has already been said, with the variations from
> time to
> time of particular chiefly territories, it can be said that at one
> particular
> era some names were members of or owed allegiance to a particular chief
> while a
> century later their allegiance may well have been owed elsewhere.
> In summary, therefore, the right to belong to a clan or family, which is
> the
> same thing, is a matter for the determination of the chief who is entitled
> to
> accept or reject persons who offer him their allegiance.
> (c) Sir Crispin Agnew of Lochnaw Bt
>
>
>
>
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>
>From FTDNA website:
If two people were identical in all markers except they are off in one marker by 1 point, the genetic distance would be 1. If they were off at 2 different markers by 1 point in each marker, then the genetic distance of those two samples would be 2. If they were off by 2 points at one marker and 1 point in a second marker, then the genetic distance would be 3. This is called the Stepwise Model of calculating genetic distance for shallow time depths. (i.e. Genealogy not Anthropology)
Some markers have shown themselves to be more volatile than others and the population geneticists have created a second model to account for these 'aberrations'. That model is called the Infinite allele model. For markers that fall into this category, despite the fact that two people could be separated by 2 (or 3) mutations, the scientific assumption is that the change took place in a single generation (between a father and a son) and therefore it is treated as a single step, despite the fact that more than one 'point' separates two samples.
Currently the Scientists have asked us to classify DYS 464 and YCAII a and b as following the Infinite Allele Model.
Thought some of you might be interested in this announcement.
Sharon
[I'm going to start saving my pennies. ;>) ]
----- Original Message -----
From: <confido(a)ix.netcom.com>
To: "Scot DNA List" <scot-dna(a)rootsweb.com>
Cc: "Jamie Sempill" <info(a)thegathering2009.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 4:43 PM
Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Off Topic: information re The Gathering 2009
> Dear Listers:
>
> Word is just being released about The Gathering 2009. It will be held at
> Holyrood Park, Edinburgh, July 25-26, 2009. It is hoped to be the largest
> Highland games ever held in Scotland. Jamie, Lord Sempill, is one of the
> promoters. His enthusiasm is contagious, so I am certain this will turn
> out to be a great event!
>
> ALL clans are invited and encouraged to participate. Please check with
> your clan to ensure they have received word. Encourage your clan's
> leadership team to post details re your clan's plans to participate in the
> event to your clan's resources -- be they at Rootsweb/Ancestry or Yahoo,
> or the Internet in general, as well as the clan newsletter.
>
> You can read more and sign up for the newsletter here:
> http://www.thegathering2009.com/
>
> You will also find a message describing the event posted here:
> http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.reunion.uk.scotland/14/mb.ashx
>
> I encourage all of you to help to spread the word to your clans and all
> those of Scottish descent....District Scots count too! I also caution
> against posting the same message to multiple boards/lists at Rootsweb as
> that has already gotten a few in hot water. Make sure you tailor your
> messages specificially to the resources you may target. Again --
> encourage *your clan's leadership* to drive the spreading of the word...
> it will be more specific to your clan's intent with regard to the event.
> Some clans have other official gatherings that may have a conflict.
>
> This is a worldwide call for the gathering of the Clans.
>
> We might also consider it a prime opportunity to spread the word of the
> Scot-Clans DNA Project and perhaps garner some good Scots from the "old
> world" to participate in our project.
>
> For any of you that are attending the San Francisco Caledonia Club's 142nd
> Annual Scottish Highland Games and Gathering, Pleasanton, California,
> Labor Day weekend this year, you will have opportunity to drop by the
> Gathering 2009 tent. If you are attending the Scottish Information
> Society Meeting on Sunday, 10:30 am, Lord Sempill has agreed to come and
> tell us about the event.
>
> Yours Aye,
>
> Lauren
> President, Scottish Information Society
> Team Member, Scottish Clans DNA Project
> Scot-DNA List Admin
>
>
>
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