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Does anyone out there have a Margaret Clendennin who married a John Bennett in PA just after the RW? She apparently had a sister (no name known) who married a brother of John Bennett (again no name known).
Thanks,
Sharon
Hello,
There is a DNA project entitled VA-1600s. It is a very exclusive project in that the earliest known ancestor must have been in Virginia before 1700.
I have taken the liberty of including John Glendenning and Ann Mott's family as best I know it as an ancestor without a DNA representative.
If you believe that you are descended from this couple and feel that you finally have the paper proof, let me know and I will change the designation listing you as a point of contact/DNA representative.
Sharon
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Hello,
A couple of days ago I received an email which stated, in part, that the writer had always been upset that Glendinning was a sept of the Clan Douglas.
Yesterday, the following was posted to a different list but I think it might help explain how Glendinning became a sept of Clan Douglas.
"Some years ago I found this comment:-
"Clans consisted of "native men" and "broken men." The "native men" were those related to the Chief and to each other by blood ties. This blood relationship is an important fundamental in the clan system and was a strong element in the patriarchal system of government, all being bound together in a common interest. The clan also contained septs or branches composed of clansmen who had become powerful or prominent in some way, and founded families almost as important as that of the Chief.
The "broken men" were individuals or groups from other clans who had sought and obtained the protection of the clan. The clan organisation consisted of the chief, the tanist, the chieftains, the captain, the daoin'-uaisle--the gentlemen, and the general body of the clan. An Act passed in 1587 "for the quiting and keeping inobedience of the disorderit and subjectis inhabitants of the Borders, Highland and Isles" containing a roll of "the clans that have Captains, Chiefs and Chieftains on whom they depend offtimes against the will of their Landlords as well on the Borders as the Highlands" may be considered proof of the existence of the patriarchal system among the inhabitants of the districts named as against the feudal holdings of the landlords, and also gives us three ranks in the clans."
The writer gave the following source: "Which was taken from an explanation of clan development from The Clan and Tartans of Scotland, Robert Bain, 1981, pp 13-18.
The Glendinnings were "native men" who gained enough prominence as to be considered acceptable husbands for Douglas daughters. Although there was one Glendinning-Douglas marriage earlier, probably the most important one, as far as the Clan Douglas goes, was the one between Sir Simon Glendonwyn of Glendonwyn who married c 1406-07 to Mary Douglas, daughter of Archibald Douglas, 4th Earl of Douglas, Duke of Tourraine.
Mary Douglas was the daughter of Margaret Stewart and the granddaughter of John Stewart, King Robert III of Scots. By the time Sir Simon married Mary Douglas, the Douglas clan was one of the most powerful in Scotland rivalling even the power of the royal line.
Sharon
I found this on a site called Ancestors At Rest (link for site below). It
appears to be William Clendenen and his wife Susanna and their two
daughters.
Clendenen Cemetery, Conc 8, Lot 17, Markham Township, York County Ontario
This is the resting place for the Clendenning/Clendennon family of Markham
and Stouffville, Ontario.
CLENDENEN, William. died 22 Mar. 1855. 78 years, 2 months, 2 days
CLENDENEN, Susanna, wife of William, died 10 Sept. 1865. 75 years
HOLDEN, Magdalene, wife of Sinclair. died 11 Jan 1863, daughter of Wm &
Susanna Clendenen. 42 years, 7 months 25 days
JOHNSON, Margaret, wife of Cornelius. born 20 Jan 1807, died 6 Dec. 1856.
daughter of Wm & Susanna Clendenen. 49 years, 10 months, 14 days
http://www.ancestorsatrest.com/cemetery_records/clendennen-ontario.shtml
Kamy Rayburn Gamble
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Bryant [mailto:SharonBryant@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:21 AM
To: CLENDENIN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Does anyone know .....
who the women are who are referenced in this news story about cemeteries in
Ontario, Canada?
http://www.ancasternews.com/an/news/news_597065.html
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This message was posted a couple of days ago on another list and I'm quoting this message with the permission of the author, Steve Smoot. It's a good illlustration of how traditional genealogical research and DNA testing work hand-in-hand. PLEASE SEE MY NOTE BELOW THE STORY.
" ...My earliest known ancestor, Silas Thompson, was born 8 Apr 1850 in Marshall County, Alabama. This information was provided by a Fred Gough who was
listed as the informant on Silas' death certificate. Silas died 15 May 1933 in Coryell County, Texas.
In genealogical research, Federal Census records are extremely important and can help identify all the members living in a household. For example, the
1920 Federal Census of Coryell County, Texas shows Silas, age 69 and born in Tennessee. He is living with his wife, Eliza Jane, who is age 65 and born
in Alabama. A review of the 1910, 1900, and 1880 Census, consistently show a Silas Thompson residing in Coryell County, Texas. However, the 1910,
1900, and 1880 census indicate that he was born in Alabama about 1850. Thus, we have consistent information about my ancestor which provides us
with the approximate age and state of birth. Unfortunately, there is not a Silas Thompson listed in the 1870, 1860, or 1850 Census in Texas or Alabama.
Family interviews indicated he had a half-brother by the name of Lewis Whitenburg. A search of the federal census of Coryell County confirmed the
existence of a Lewis Whitenburg, age 24 from Alabama. He is living with his wife Alice and have no children. A review of the 1870 Texas and Alabama
Census does not list a Lewis Whitenburg. However, the 1860 census for Alabama shows a Lewis Whitenburg (age 5) living in the household of Tabitha
Simms in Marshall County. In addition, there is a Rachel Whitenburg (age 25), Silas Whitenburg (age 10), and a Francis C. Whitenburg (age 7).
A review of the 1850 Alabama Census in Marshall County reveals a single family of Whitenburg's living in Marshall County, Alabama. Among the children listed are a Silas McPherson, age listed as 2/12 (two months old) and a Rachel Whitenburg, age 18. So, we have a Rachel Whitenburg listed in both the 1850 and 1860 Marshall County, Alabama Census with a Silas in the same household. Could this be the same people?
At this point we suspect that our Silas Thompson is the same as Silas Whitenburg and Silas McPherson but where was he in 1870. Let's go back to the census records previously viewed and search for common neighbors. If we get lucky, we may uncover something interesting. A quick review of the original 1880 Texas Census of Coryell County reveals a Leonard Lewis and a Rachel Lewis (age 47) living next door to our original Lewis Whitenburg. Wow! Coincidence?
Now, lets see if we can find Leonard Lewis on the 1870 Census in Marshall County, Alabama. Bingo! There's a Leonard Lewis and also in the household
are Rachell Lewis (age 35), Silas (age 20), and Louis (age 15). So finally, we've been able to identify where our Silas was in every census since 1850. The only problem is that we can't determine what his last name actually is.
Here's a summary:
1850 - Silas McPherson (living with Whitenburg's)
1860 - Silas Whitenburg
1870 - Silas Lewis
1880 to 1920 - Silas Thompson
Okay, well how about a marriage record for Silas. The marriage record of Silas Thompson and Eliza Jane Campbell are found in Madison County, Alabama.
They were married 2 Feb 1871. So, the question is what was his real last name and who were his parents?
The answer was not known for many years, or should I say 155 years. The name Thompson continues to be used by his descendants. There are lots of stories about a member of the family, Silas or perhaps his father, who had to change their name and/or go into hiding after shooting someone in Alabama. So, maybe it was my ancestor who changed his name to Thompson to avoid going to jail.
This problem may never have been solved except for one technological innovation, DNA testing. In April 2006, a grandson of Silas Thompson was DNA tested by a company called DNA Heritage. After the standard wait time of several weeks, the results were returned and analysis of the results was started. Upon initial examination and comparison of his DNA with the available online DNA databases no match was found. This search included the Sorenson Molecular Genealogical Foundation (SMGF), ybase.org, and ysearch.org. Then, three months later, on 3 Jul 2006, another comparison was made with the ysearch.org database. And Bingo, a perfect 34 for 34 match was found. And, what do you suppose was the last name of this match?
It was Thompson. Hallelujah! Finally, we have come to know the truth of the family, the last name was Thompson after all. Furthermore, the ancestor of this matching individual was also traced to Madison County, Alabama and additional family ancestral information was obtained. Although we don't know with certainty who fathered Silas, we do have some degree of certainty that his grandfather was Ephraim Thompson (b. 1786 in Virginia), and his great-grandfather was Electious Thompson (b. 1755 in Maryland). So, through the help of DNA testing, we have increased our ancestral knowledge by 100 years from 1850 to 1755 and solved a surname problem ....." .
NOTE: Several of you have 37/37 or 36 or 35/37 matches with other participants of this project, but you have absolutely NO paper connecions. Please go back and review the records! Talk to each other! And for crying out loud, do not discount something you find because the name is spelled differently than your ancestor's name.
You may need to follow the deeds to a certain piece of land, in order to find the truth. There are too many men named John, James, William, etc to just assume that you have the right man. If they owned land find out who owned it next!
Good hunting.