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Hello everyone,
It's Christmas eve and the quilt I was working on is now in the box, wrapped, and under the tree. I appreciate that you all have had patience.
There have been some specific questions and information that has been passed around that needs to be clarified. I want to start with the Y DNA testing. The main thing it can do is tell you who you are NOT related to.
It also does NOT tell you who your specific ancestor was if you match with someone else.
Let me explain: All men have Y DNA which they pass on to their sons (not to their daughters). Each son then passes it on to their sons and so forth down through history. It is possible for there to be a glitch if the DNA is not copied exactly - this is called a mutation. They happen very seldom and should be studied very carefully as they can mark specific points in a family's history where a new branch of the tree starts.
A man, a thousand years ago had the following DNA (this is only an example):
A B C D E F G
If you have exactly the same DNA then you are definitely RELATED to (notice I did not say descended from) this man. The reason I did not say descended from is because if this man had brothers they should, conceivably, have the same Y DNA.
Let's say that 500 years ago, one of the male descendants of this man passed on his Y DNA but it came out like this:
A A C D E F G and each generation of men descended from this second man had the same sequence. This would be considered a "branching" point.
If another present day man tested with the following DNA
H D G I J K M
there is NO way he was descended from, or related to, our original example. There is so much difference in the two sequences that the first one is called haplogroup R1b and the current one is called I1a.
It is imperative that the paper trail bears out the Y DNA test results. You do not really have to be able to understand Y DNA and how it works. You just have to be able to compare sequences of numbers in order to tell if individuals are related.
We have many men in our project who have almost identical Y DNA sequences. They are most likely related. I say most likely because we do not have the paper trails to say "yes, they are specifically related and in this manner".
We also cannot say that two men in our project are descendants of the same man UNLESS we have paper documents that bears that out. For example, Don Clendenin and Willie Clendenin have identical Y DNA signatures. We can say they are related to each other and descended from the same man because they have paper documentation through old fashion genealogical research that shows they both share a common ancestor and who that man is.
They, Don and Willie, are also unique in that they have a specific point in their DNA signatures where one number has changed - i.e., they have a 16 where most everyone else has a 17. This is the branching point that separates them from the others.
The specific questions I have been asked have been slight variations from the one below:
"Would you please give me the kit #s of the Y-DNA of the two men who descend from old Charles Clendenin?" I have taken this to men Charles Clendenin of Virginia/West Virginia for whom Charleston WV was named.
Charles had four KNOWN sons - George (only daughters), Robert (had sons), William (had sons), and Alexander (had sons). We have participants who are representing two of these lines - i.e, Robert and Alexander. The kit for Robert's descendant is 31267 while the kit for Alexander's descendant is 17714.
I hope this answers the questions you have.
Please have a peaceful and happy Christmas with your family and other loved ones.
Sharon
Hello,
There has been a sudden influx of questions regarding Charles Clendenin of West Virginia, his descendants, and the Y-DNA project.
I want to answer all of these in one message but I am asking you all to wait until after Christmas. Right now I don't have the time.
I am trying to finish a full bed-sized quilt for my daughter and I'm to the point of doing the handwork to finish the binding.
I lost two whole days because my less than a year old kitchen cabinets were incorrectly installed and were coming off the walls. They had to be completely emptied so that the problem could be corrected. Then everything has to go back into those cabinets. We got most of it back yesterday but still have really important things to put back.
So please be patient with me. Since my Christmas cards are still sitting, unaddressed, in their boxes let me take this opportunity to wish you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Sharon
Part of this you have mentioned the family in West DeerTownship. There are
two families from West Deer. James Clendennen b 1752 and a group that came
over later from Ireland in the mid 1800's. I can't remember off the top of my
head what his name was but do know the census you refer to is from that
group. There are some write ups on them in the digial Pittsburgh site from the
Carnegie Library online.
Lori Clendennen
Nancy is looking for more information on William J. Clendenning. If you have anything you may contact her directly or reply to this message.
William John Clendenning and Mary Emma Ferguson were united in marriage at home October 8,1896. Mr Clendenning was born Friday April 4 (?) 1873 and died Aug 24, 1932 I believe he is buried in Mt Royal Cemetery ( Pittsburgh area) Mary was born Wednesday Feb. 28, 1877 and died Nov, 1 1965. She was buried in Mt. Royal Cemetery.
CHILDREN}
Flora Ethel Clendenning 3 pm Sat Aug 21 1898 died June 27, 1965 Buried in Ottawa Hills Memorial Park (Toledo Ohio area) Garden of Prayer - Lot 31 Grave 4
Married Walker H Edmundson 3/14/1892 on June 21,1922 Buried in Ottawa Hills Memorial Park
She had two sons John Arthur Edmundson May 28,1924
Donald William Edmundson July 25 1941 He is deceased and I would think he died in the Toledo Ohio area.
Francis Marie Clendenning 5pm Wed. Jan 10,1900 died April 4,1988 Buried at Allegheny Cemetery - Temple of Memories
Married John C. Woods 6/19/1897 on June 15,1943 he died 6/11/1935 Also buried in Allegheny Cemeterty - Temple of Memories
2nd marriage William Rayburn Keeler on Feb 20,1937. He died 8/29/81 Also in the Temple of Memories - Allegheny Cemetery
She had one daughter Phyliss Kay Keeler on November 29,1938
She married Thomas Yeo and had one daughter Karen Yeo 9/2/??
Hazel Mildred Clendenning Monday March 2,1903 died Monday November 3,1930 at the Presbyterian Hospital. SERVICES AT THE FAMILY HOME in Bakerstown, Pa on Thursday Nov 6. Friends of the family and members of the Presbyterian Hospital Alumni are invited. Interment private. This is from a newspaper clipping pasted in the family bible. I am sure she is also at Mt. Royal Cemetery as I have been there as a young person and I recall the head stones being rather box like and in a group.
Ruth Almeda Clendenning 7am Saturday March 24, 1906 died Feb 24,1994 Buried at Greenlawn Cemetery, Crestline Ohio
I have a census record of 1910 taken in West Deer Twp, Allegheny County, Pa on April 15 That enumerated her in the family of W.J. and Mary E. Clendening ( note the misspelling of the name) at age 4. Lists her place of birth just as Pa. She always said she was born at Bakerstown, Pa.
Married Arthur Luster Vaughn 11/29/1903 on Aug 29,1923 died May 7,1977 Buried at Greenlawn Cemetery, Crestline Ohio Arthur was a machinist on the Penn Central Railroad. He was the son of Blanche Rhodes Winters & Charles Mont Vaughn.
She had four sons and two daughters
Infant son June 8th 1924 - 6/28/1924 - Buried at Union Dale Cemetery, Brighton Rd., Pittsburgh Pa.
Arthur Luster Vaughn Jr, June 30, 1925 - 10/9/06 buried in Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery, St. Louis, Mo.. He was a WWII U.S. Navy Veteran.
Married and had one daughter Darlene Ruth Vaughn
Patricia Ann Vaughn July 17,1927 - June 2 1930 - Buried at Union Dale Cemetery, Pgh., Pa
Wallace Richard Vaughn Nov. 26, 1929 - June 8,1988 Buried at St. Joseph Cemetery Albion, N.Y. He was a retired senior vice-president of finance & administration at Arvin/Calspan Corp.
married Mariann Liggett ( she is deceased) also Buried at St. Joseph Cemetery Albion, N Y.
Sons : Victor Jay Vaughn married Nancy
daughter, Jennifer and son Christopher
Douglas James Vaughn
Daughter Brenda Ann Vaughn married Douglas Heath
sons Mark and Andrew
Conrad Clendenning Vaughn Sept 17, 1932 As my grandparents had five daughters and no sons my brother Conrad Vaughn carries the middle name Clendenning
married Kathleen Snyder ( she is deceased) - Her body was donated to science study.
Son Micheal Conrad Vaughn and daughters
Lori Ann Vaughn, married Scott Holser
Daughter Kelly and son Van
Linda Vaughn married Scott Snyder
daughters Nicki, Kristi & Jessica
, Lisa Vaughn
Nancy Jane Vaughn Sept 11, 1943 ( ME) I was born in Crestline Ohio. I am the only member of my family to be born in Ohio.
Married Cloyde Allen Paynter Aug 25, 1962 at St. Joseph Church, Crestline Ohio He died Dec 7 1964 Buried in Mt. Calvery Cemetery in Galion Ohio
One daughter Patricia Ann April 9, 1964
2nd marriage Jerry William Harbaugh March 15,1967
one daughter Sheila Louise Sept 1, 1967
Dorothy Gale Clendenning 6am June 1st 1913 died May 16, 1968 I am sure she is also in Mt Royal Cemetery
As a side note and this is just something from my memories: Aunt Dorothy move to the then new high rise apartment near the confluence not too long before her death ( At Allenghy General Hospital) She was givin some sort of a plaque because her family was one of the original settlers of that area (?).