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Published in the Boston, MA - Globe 1999-7-20
Clymer, Russell S. SHERBORN WELLESLEY CONCORD Of Sherborn, formerly of
Wellesley Hills, died peacefully at home, July 16, Russell S. Clymer.
Husband of Barbara H. (Sullivan) Clymer and the late Eileen (Williams)
Clymer. Father of John H. Clymer of Concord, Judy Wells of Carlisle, PA,
Nathaniel R.S. Clymer of East Millstone, NJ. He is survived by 6 loving
grand daughters, Sarah Ducharme of Beirut, Lebanon, Amy Clymer of
Brookline, Anne Gustafson of Los Angeles, CA, Katherine Gustafson of
Brooklyn, NY, Meredith and Alexandra Clymer of East Millstone, NJ. He is
survived by 3 step children, Marsha M. Sullivan of Glenview, IL, Robert J.
Sullivan of Ithaca, NY, Peter D. Sullivan of Dallas, Texas. A Memorial
Service will be held at the Pilgrim Church, Sherborn on Monday, July 26th
at 3;00 p.m. Relatives & friends kindly invited. In lieu of flowers
donations in Russ's memory may be made to; The Sherborn Rescue, Sherborn,
MA 01770. Arrangements by the George F. Doherty & Sons Funeral Home,
WELLESLEY.
Danny L. Clemmer
Clemmer LIst Owner
http://www.clemmer.org
Subj: LDS informaion - From Barbara Jean
Subject: LDS Records.
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This Jacob Clemmer husband of Anna Pfaffman, died in 1728. Ludwig was born
in 1713, and probably was left with his widowed grandmother, Anna, and he
would have been 17 years of age in 1730 when his father and mother left.
Ludwig married Anna Elizabeth Boeckel in a town near Friedelsheim in 1743.
So, he would have been thirty years of age. I do not know when Anna his
grandmother died, but it could have been just before his marriage. Anna
Elizabeth Boeckels father was already dead. Her uncle Ludwig Valentine
Clemmer lived in the part of York County, now Adams County, , and so when
they immigrated they went there, but with a possible stop in
Philadelphia,where their marriage in Meckenheim and the birth date of their
oldest son was recorded in the church records, presumably by his father
Henry.
Wed--Lenny Clemmer just got back from Brakebill, Madison Co Tennessee where
he visited the Clemmer Cemetery, graves of John and Hanna Hoffman Clemmer.
The cemetery was well maintained and is near Batt Ck on the Little
Tennesse-Telico River. Lenny found court records proving John Clemmer died
in 1837, not 1827 as per OUR KIN. . Lenny says the 150 mile trip from
Dallas NC took 3&1/2 hours and there wasn't a straight stretch in the road.
Can you imagine John & Hanna making the trip ca 1826? What beast pulled
their wagon? How long did it take?----- This is data on the ship "Alexander
and Ann". If anyone has documentation contradicting the following, please
post it.----<< There on 9-17-1678 Jacob Klemmer married a local girl, Ann
Catherine Pfaffman, daughter of Hans Jacob Pfaffman. Wouldn't it be
interesting to know how and where the
newlyweds met? Anyhow, Hans and Ann had one son babtised in Fridelsheim , a
son Johan Heinrick Klemmer. They considered Friedelsheim home and there on
9-16-1710, Johan Heinrich(now 22years) married Ann Catherine Daughneir, widow
of Michael Daughneir. They had at least two sons born in Friedelsheim,
Andreas Klemmer born about 1712 and Johan Ludwig Klemmer born about 1718.
In 1730
Johan Heinrick Klemmer took his oldest son Andreas and sailed down the Rhine
River and to Pennsylvania in the "New World". Their ship was the "Alexander
and Ann" and they arrived in the town of Philidelphia on
9-15-1730.{Document #3}>> Charles Hite
In Leon Clemmer's previous posting he stated that "Heydrick came with his brother Ludwig on the Alexander and Ann in 1748" and left his first wife in Germany. Also, Bishop Valentine Clemmer came in 1712 and had no children.
Below is a second posting by Leon Clemmer with my questions in italics:
>What is the relationship between Montgomery County, Berks and Bucks
>County Clemmers ? The names Clemmer, Klemmer, Clymer seem to go on
>without discrimination. .
>
> The earliest landing signature I have seen is Hans Heidrick .What year was he born and who were his parents? Is his brother the Johann Ludwig who married Ann Elizabeth Bockle? In 1730 he >signed with his mark ? and the custom officer signed him in as>Henry Clemmer. His brother Ludgwig What year was Ludwig born and who were his parents? signed his name Ludgwig. Is this the Heydrick who came to America in 1748 on the Alexander and Ann? Did he sign his name for a Custom officer in 1730 as well as 1748? Where?
The
>Montgomery County Clemmers trace everything back to these two brothers,
>Hans and Ludwig. Hans ( Henry ) is buried with his wife, Maria, in
>Franconia. I am a descendant of this Henry who married Maria and is buried at Franconia. Although my line is throught the youngest son Valentine who settled in Bucks County, I consider myself a Montgomery County Clemmer. I thought we traced everything back to Henry Clemmer and the John Clemmer (a possible brother of Henry's) who married Ann DetweilerLater we learned of Henrys first wife (Was this a wife before Maria and before he arrived in 1730 on the Alexander and Ann?) in Freishiem Germany
>Betsy Clemmer Grant did a superb job of research while her husband was
>stationed in Germany. She has copies of the birth-death and marriages
>of those early Clemmers in Freshiem. The story is that Henrick (who later married Maria and is buried in Montgomery County?) left
>his first wife and his infant son in Germany. They came later to the
>Pennsylvania, settled near Gettysburg and later migrated to the South. (Was he not buried in 1791 in Franconia, Montgomery County, Pa? Are you saying that he went south and returned to Pennyslvania?)
>Hence, there are many Clemmers in the Carolinas and Tennessee.The
>Montgomery County Clemmers, also Mennonites, are descendants of
>( Hans ) Henry Clemmer who arrived in Philadelphia on 9/5/1730 on the
>ship Alexander and Ann. (He is to be found first in Salford, then ln
>Franconia Twp., Montgomery Co., where, in 1748 he bought 156 acres from
>Dielman Kolb, adJoining what is now the Old Allentown Road about one
>mile south of the village of Franconia. He died in 1791 but the farm
>remained in the family until the twentieth century Most of Henry's
>descendants remained ln Montgomery Co. and, as of 1970, many are still
>to be found ln the Harleyeville area. (Isn't this the the Henry Clemmer that we have been talking about ...the one that came in 1730 on the Alexander and Ann and married Maria and is buried in Franconia? The Christian Clemmers of Bucks
>County predate the Henry Clemmers of Montgomery County.The relationships
>between these two families has never been definitely ascertained. Henry
>Clemmer and the Montgomery County Clemmers and Christian Clemmers of the
>Bucks Co is even more puzzzling when the relationship of any of the
>Clemmers is considered with the famous first Bishop in America,
>Valentine Clemmer, 1717 .
>
> Ther is one story that has no credence that I can verify is that one
>Clemmer stayed in Philadelphia and owned all the land that was built on
>be John Wanamaker for his store !
>
> George Clymer signed the Declaration of Independence. He is
>memorialized in Independence Park by a statue The Signer Where were
>these Clemmers, Clymers or whoever during the Revolition ?
>
> In the first place, the Mennonites were pacifics. Their guide in all
>matters temporal was the bible. The Lord said, through the teachings
>of Mennon, Thou shalt not kill . Actually there was conscription
>through the land. The 4th Regiment, made up of Philadelphia County
>residents lists four of our namesakes. 4th class private John Clemmer,
>6th class private Henry Clemmer were in Capt John Copes 5th Battalion
>1781 - 1783 . Also listed in various reports are Valentine, John and
>Henry Jr. On the official report Pa. Archives Vol. XII Alphabetical
>list of Revolutionary Soldiers are the names Jacob and Henry Clymer.
>None saw action. There is one story of the meeting of regimentals
>overtaking a Clemmer driving his ox cart. The regimentals were to join
>Washington at Trenton. The Clemmer was conscripted with his oxen and
>cart. He very presently deserted his charge, left the oxen and his cart
>and returned home. So much for the revolution.
>
> It is likely that some relationships existed by reason of family
>tradition" and the fact that the Christian names of the early
>descendants of the Montgomery County Clemmers and those of the Bucks
>County. Clemmers are almost ldentical.
>
> Other than Bishop Valentine the earliest Clemmer found is:
>
>CHRISTIAN CLEMMER 1697?-1759?
>
> This particular branch of the Clemmer family can be reliably documented
>back to Christian Clymer of Lower Mllford Township, Bucks Co. His wife's
>name was Barbara who died not long before 4/3/1761. Their children were
>(as of 1761):
> Christian Clymer of Springfield m. Catharine
> Jacob m. Esther
> John
> Henry
> Magdalena m. Peter Mayer
> Anna m. John Barkey
> Elizabeth m. Conrad Kelly
> Esther
> Catharine m. Isaac Rinker
> Martin Clymer
>
> A sometimes unreliable source says that the Clymer (Klemmer) name was
>brought to the United States by two royal brothers, one of whom was
>Christian Clymer, (Klemmer). He was born ln Germany ln 1697, died ln
>1759 Christian is thought to have emigrated to Pennsylvania prior to
>1730. Christian resided in what is now Mllford Twp., Bucks Co., and his
>name appeared on the record as a petitioner to divide the township in
>1734. His wife Barbara died 1/14/1776 after giving him seven sons and
>five daughters, one of whom was Jacob, b. 1729. As his descendants were
>Mennonites. it is likely that he was also. Scattered bits of information
>about the early Clemmers in Bucks Co. mention Christian Clemmer, John
>Jacob Klemmer, and Valentine Clemmer. In 1730-31 Jacob Clemmer of
>Richland, Jacob Sauder, Phillip Keisinger, George Bachman, and John
>Drissel petitioned the assembly to be naturalized. Also ln 1730,
>thirty-two lnhabitants of "Rich lands" petitioned for a road from the
>new meeting house to the county line in order to go to Philadelphia by
>the Montgomery road. John Jacob Klemmer was among those who signed. A
>petition was presented to the legislature from inhabitants of Bucks Co.
>ln 1734 stating that they were petitioners from Germany who, having
>purchased lands, desired naturalization so that they may hold same and
>transmit them to their children. It was signed by Christian Clemmer and
>John Jacob Clemmer, among others. On 6/13/1734, those living between the
>county line and the section about to be laid out as Richland, petitioned
>the court to erect the area they inhabited into a township. This led to
>the formation of Lower Milford (later Milford) Twp., Bucks. Co.
>Sixty-two names appeared on the petition, including that of Clymer.
>Finally, John Klemmer is listed as a land owner in Rlchland Twp.
>
> Valentine Clemmer deserves a paragraph for himself. He was one of the
>earliest settlers and religious leaders of the co-called Swamp region
>(the upper third of Bucks Co. and adjacent portions of Montgomery Co.).
>"Perhaps one reason for the early organization of the Swamp Mennonite
>Church was the coming of a Mennonite Bishop, Valentine Clemmer, from
>German to 'Grooten Schwamb', Great Swamp, in 1717. Bishop Clemmer
>subscribed to the Dortrecht Confession of Faith in 1725 as from Great
>Swamp. Valentine was naturalized in 1729. It is presumed he had a hand
>in the organization of the original Swamp Church in 1735 and in 1771,
>for the purchase of land for the new East Swamp cemetery, Valentine
>Clemmer was listed as a "trustee of the Mennonites in East Swamp", along
>with Peter Salger, Christian Bleler, and Jacob Clemmer. A family
>tradition reported by Bishop Abraham G. Clemmer of Montgomery Co. to
>John C. Wenger states that Valentine died while visiting the Conestoga
>Mennonites (Lancaster Co.) concerning church affairs and was buried
>there, perhaps at Mellinger's cemetery. Even though there is a total
>lack of documentation concerning Bishop Valentine Clemmer to a family
>relationship both the Montgomery and Bucks County branches of the family
>claim him as a relative.
>
> CHRISTIAN CLEMMER
>
> On 6/29/1741, Christian Clemmer of Lower Mllford Twp. bought 315 acres
>of land in Rockhill Twp. along the northeast branch of the Perkiomen
>Creek (Bucks DB 23,238). This Christian Clemmer later died intestate and
>on 4/3/1761 his wldow, Barbara, and nine sons and daughters sold their
>shares ln the tract to the eldest son, Martin (Bucks DB 22,206). This
>tract of 315 acres on the south side of Sellereville remained in the
>family for at least three generations. It is located between the
>southern bank of the northeast branch of the Perkiomen Creek and the
>present day Clymer A~re. In 1928 parts of lt were dlvlded into building
>lots. (Bucks OC 825). The area was once known as Clymerville but has
>since been absorbed by residential Sellersvllle.
>
>MARTIN CLEMMER ( CLYMER ) 2/23/1752- 5/12/1820
>
> Martin's name appears on the Rockhill Twp tax for the year 1779. He is
>assessed for 300 acres (acreage was often rounded off) with his eldest
>son, Jacob, appearing next to his father, is credited with one horse and
>no land. They are the only Clymers listed under Rockhill Twp. By 1781,
>Martin had begun helping Jacob get started on his own, for Martin
>(or Matthew) is listed with 200 and Jacob with 100 acres. The following
>year Christian Clemmer appears on the 1ist of taxable single men in
>Rockhill Twp. It remains so until 1785 when Martin disappears and
>Christian and Abraham take his place with 100 and 70 acres respectively.
>Martin had died. In December, 1784, sons Jacob and Chrlstlan, the
>admnistator , petitioned the Orphans Court for an audit of the estate.
>The opinion of the court, handed down on 9/12/1785. was that the tract
>of 324 acres could not be divided among the 11 children without
>prejudice or spoiling the whole.. Therefore, on 12/12/1785, eldest son
>Jacob bought out the share of each of his brothers and sisters in the
>farm. These were
>Christian and Abraham - who was ln his minority and had petitioned for a
>guardian
>
> Ann m. John Meyer
> Mary m. John Landls
> Elizabeth m. Henry Halteman
> Barbara m. Abraham Delp
> Margaret m. Christian Meyer
> Susannah
> Esther
> Catharine (Bucks OC 825)
>
>Who is the Henrich Clemmer who sailed on the Alexander and Ann in 1730?
>
>
>
>
>
>==== CLEMMER Mailing List ====
>Is your ancestor's obituary online? Go to http://clemmer.org to find out.
>
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out.
>
In the following article, "Immigrant Ships" by Paul A. Darrel, the author
gives a short but interestesting summation of the typical Palatine voyage
from Rotterdam to Philadelphia in the mid 18th century along with a
description of some of the vessels.
In his article, Immigrant Ships, Paul A. Darrel provides us with valuable
information on the Patience, and what it was like for passengers crossing
the Atlantic in the 18th century. Our ancestral family, that of Michel and
Elizabeth Trarbach, survived the Rotterdam to Philadelphia voyage in 1751 .
"Many sailing vessels made annual runs from England to the colonies. As John
W. Heisey has pointed out, only British ships were permitted to land legally
at American ports, prior to the Revolutionary War. German immigrants went
from a continental port, usually Rotterdam in the 18th century, to a British
port, and took passage across the Atlantic from there. Other vessels made
the crossing only once.
"None of these vessels was very large. The ship (and therefore three-masted)
Patience made annual runs to Philadelphia from 1748 to
1753, with the exception of 1752 when she arrived at Annapolis. Klaus
Wurst has given particulars: the Patience was a 200-ton ship, had 8
guns, and a crew of 16. (For comparison, the Cutty Sark, the most
famous clipper ship of the 19th century, had a net tonnage of 921 tons,and
measured 212' in length, 36' in width, and 21' in depth. Clipper ships
carried passengers, but were built for speed and cargo.) In 1748, the
Patience carried 122 men over 16 (total passengers not given); in 1749,137
men, 270 persons; in 1750, 124 men, 266 persons; in 1751, 255 persons; in
1752, 260 persons; in 1753, 108 persons.
"Immigrant passengers were densely packed, with little space, often
with poor food and bad water. Under such conditions, disease was a
commonplace. Some captains were considerate and kept to the terms of
the contract, but not all. It is worth noting that the total passengers on
the Royal Enterprise (1750) were given as 'souls'; more often,passengers
were listed as 'Palatines' or 'Foreigners', but sometimes as,'Freights', as
if they were mere cargo.
"Upon arrival at Philadelphia, males over the age of 16 were taken to
the City Hall for the oath of allegiance, then led back to the ship. Those
who had their passage money, or could borrow it, were released. The others
were consigned to merchants, and announcements were printed
in newspapers. Buyers bargained with the passengers for a stated
period of service, and paid the merchant the passage money and any
other debts. Families were often divided on arrival, as children were
'sold' to pay the family's passage.
"Passengers who were sick were not allowed to land. If there was
infectious disease on board, the ship had to remove one mile from the
port. In 1743, the Assembly at Philadelphia purchased Fisher Island,
later named Province Island, its buildings to be used as a hospital. In
1754, 253 persons died there, as recorded in the accounts of one
undertaker. Burial expenses were assumed by the merchants to whome
the passengers had been consigned."
- ----------------------------------
About the Author: At the time the article was written, Paul A. Darrell
lived in Indiana. A history buff and a sailing enthusiast.
- -----------------------------------
Paul A. Darrel. "Immigrant Ships." The Palatine Immigrant Vol. VII
No. 1, Summer 1981, pp 31-32.
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What is the relationship between Montgomery County, Berks and Bucks
County Clemmers ? The names Clemmer, Klemmer, Clymer seem to go on
without discrimination. .
The earliest landing signature I have seen is Hans Heidrick. In 1730 he
signed with his mark ? and the custom officer signed him in as
Henry Clemmer. His brother Ludgwig signed his name Ludgwig. The
Montgomery County Clemmers trace everything back to these two brothers,
Hans and Ludwig. Hans ( Henry ) is buried with his wife, Maria, in
Franconia. Later we learned of Henrys first wife in Freishiem Germany
Betsy Clemmer Grant did a superb job of research while her husband was
stationed in Germany. She has copies of the birth-death and marriages
of those early Clemmers in Freshiem. The story is that Henrick left
his first wife and his infant son in Germany. They came later to the
Pennsylvania, settled near Gettysburg and later migrated to the South.
Hence, there are many Clemmers in the Carolinas and Tennessee.The
Montgomery County Clemmers, also Mennonites, are descendants of
( Hans ) Henry Clemmer who arrived in Philadelphia on 9/5/1730 on the
ship Alexander and Ann. He is to be found first in Salford, then ln
Franconia Twp., Montgomery Co., where, in 1748 he bought 156 acres from
Dielman Kolb, adJoining what is now the Old Allentown Road about one
mile south of the village of Franconia. He died in 1791 but the farm
remained in the family until the twentieth century Most of Henry's
descendants remained ln Montgomery Co. and, as of 1970, many are still
to be found ln the Harleyeville area. The Christian Clemmers of Bucks
County predate the Henry Clemmers of Montgomery County.The relationships
between these two families has never been definitely ascertained. Henry
Clemmer and the Montgomery County Clemmers and Christian Clemmers of the
Bucks Co is even more puzzzling when the relationship of any of the
Clemmers is considered with the famous first Bishop in America,
Valentine Clemmer, 1717 .
Ther is one story that has no credence that I can verify is that one
Clemmer stayed in Philadelphia and owned all the land that was built on
be John Wanamaker for his store !
George Clymer signed the Declaration of Independence. He is
memorialized in Independence Park by a statue The Signer Where were
these Clemmers, Clymers or whoever during the Revolition ?
In the first place, the Mennonites were pacifics. Their guide in all
matters temporal was the bible. The Lord said, through the teachings
of Mennon, Thou shalt not kill . Actually there was conscription
through the land. The 4th Regiment, made up of Philadelphia County
residents lists four of our namesakes. 4th class private John Clemmer,
6th class private Henry Clemmer were in Capt John Copes 5th Battalion
1781 - 1783 . Also listed in various reports are Valentine, John and
Henry Jr. On the official report Pa. Archives Vol. XII Alphabetical
list of Revolutionary Soldiers are the names Jacob and Henry Clymer.
None saw action. There is one story of the meeting of regimentals
overtaking a Clemmer driving his ox cart. The regimentals were to join
Washington at Trenton. The Clemmer was conscripted with his oxen and
cart. He very presently deserted his charge, left the oxen and his cart
and returned home. So much for the revolution.
It is likely that some relationships existed by reason of family
tradition" and the fact that the Christian names of the early
descendants of the Montgomery County Clemmers and those of the Bucks
County. Clemmers are almost ldentical.
Other than Bishop Valentine the earliest Clemmer found is:
CHRISTIAN CLEMMER 1697?-1759?
This particular branch of the Clemmer family can be reliably documented
back to Christian Clymer of Lower Mllford Township, Bucks Co. His wife's
name was Barbara who died not long before 4/3/1761. Their children were
(as of 1761):
Christian Clymer of Springfield m. Catharine
Jacob m. Esther
John
Henry
Magdalena m. Peter Mayer
Anna m. John Barkey
Elizabeth m. Conrad Kelly
Esther
Catharine m. Isaac Rinker
Martin Clymer
A sometimes unreliable source says that the Clymer (Klemmer) name was
brought to the United States by two royal brothers, one of whom was
Christian Clymer, (Klemmer). He was born ln Germany ln 1697, died ln
1759 Christian is thought to have emigrated to Pennsylvania prior to
1730. Christian resided in what is now Mllford Twp., Bucks Co., and his
name appeared on the record as a petitioner to divide the township in
1734. His wife Barbara died 1/14/1776 after giving him seven sons and
five daughters, one of whom was Jacob, b. 1729. As his descendants were
Mennonites. it is likely that he was also. Scattered bits of information
about the early Clemmers in Bucks Co. mention Christian Clemmer, John
Jacob Klemmer, and Valentine Clemmer. In 1730-31 Jacob Clemmer of
Richland, Jacob Sauder, Phillip Keisinger, George Bachman, and John
Drissel petitioned the assembly to be naturalized. Also ln 1730,
thirty-two lnhabitants of "Rich lands" petitioned for a road from the
new meeting house to the county line in order to go to Philadelphia by
the Montgomery road. John Jacob Klemmer was among those who signed. A
petition was presented to the legislature from inhabitants of Bucks Co.
ln 1734 stating that they were petitioners from Germany who, having
purchased lands, desired naturalization so that they may hold same and
transmit them to their children. It was signed by Christian Clemmer and
John Jacob Clemmer, among others. On 6/13/1734, those living between the
county line and the section about to be laid out as Richland, petitioned
the court to erect the area they inhabited into a township. This led to
the formation of Lower Milford (later Milford) Twp., Bucks. Co.
Sixty-two names appeared on the petition, including that of Clymer.
Finally, John Klemmer is listed as a land owner in Rlchland Twp.
Valentine Clemmer deserves a paragraph for himself. He was one of the
earliest settlers and religious leaders of the co-called Swamp region
(the upper third of Bucks Co. and adjacent portions of Montgomery Co.).
"Perhaps one reason for the early organization of the Swamp Mennonite
Church was the coming of a Mennonite Bishop, Valentine Clemmer, from
German to 'Grooten Schwamb', Great Swamp, in 1717. Bishop Clemmer
subscribed to the Dortrecht Confession of Faith in 1725 as from Great
Swamp. Valentine was naturalized in 1729. It is presumed he had a hand
in the organization of the original Swamp Church in 1735 and in 1771,
for the purchase of land for the new East Swamp cemetery, Valentine
Clemmer was listed as a "trustee of the Mennonites in East Swamp", along
with Peter Salger, Christian Bleler, and Jacob Clemmer. A family
tradition reported by Bishop Abraham G. Clemmer of Montgomery Co. to
John C. Wenger states that Valentine died while visiting the Conestoga
Mennonites (Lancaster Co.) concerning church affairs and was buried
there, perhaps at Mellinger's cemetery. Even though there is a total
lack of documentation concerning Bishop Valentine Clemmer to a family
relationship both the Montgomery and Bucks County branches of the family
claim him as a relative.
CHRISTIAN CLEMMER
On 6/29/1741, Christian Clemmer of Lower Mllford Twp. bought 315 acres
of land in Rockhill Twp. along the northeast branch of the Perkiomen
Creek (Bucks DB 23,238). This Christian Clemmer later died intestate and
on 4/3/1761 his wldow, Barbara, and nine sons and daughters sold their
shares ln the tract to the eldest son, Martin (Bucks DB 22,206). This
tract of 315 acres on the south side of Sellereville remained in the
family for at least three generations. It is located between the
southern bank of the northeast branch of the Perkiomen Creek and the
present day Clymer A~re. In 1928 parts of lt were dlvlded into building
lots. (Bucks OC 825). The area was once known as Clymerville but has
since been absorbed by residential Sellersvllle.
MARTIN CLEMMER ( CLYMER ) 2/23/1752- 5/12/1820
Martin's name appears on the Rockhill Twp tax for the year 1779. He is
assessed for 300 acres (acreage was often rounded off) with his eldest
son, Jacob, appearing next to his father, is credited with one horse and
no land. They are the only Clymers listed under Rockhill Twp. By 1781,
Martin had begun helping Jacob get started on his own, for Martin
(or Matthew) is listed with 200 and Jacob with 100 acres. The following
year Christian Clemmer appears on the 1ist of taxable single men in
Rockhill Twp. It remains so until 1785 when Martin disappears and
Christian and Abraham take his place with 100 and 70 acres respectively.
Martin had died. In December, 1784, sons Jacob and Chrlstlan, the
admnistator , petitioned the Orphans Court for an audit of the estate.
The opinion of the court, handed down on 9/12/1785. was that the tract
of 324 acres could not be divided among the 11 children without
prejudice or spoiling the whole.. Therefore, on 12/12/1785, eldest son
Jacob bought out the share of each of his brothers and sisters in the
farm. These were
Christian and Abraham - who was ln his minority and had petitioned for a
guardian
Ann m. John Meyer
Mary m. John Landls
Elizabeth m. Henry Halteman
Barbara m. Abraham Delp
Margaret m. Christian Meyer
Susannah
Esther
Catharine (Bucks OC 825)
I would be very interested in knowing about the work to which you speak.
My CLEMMER is Ana, daughter of John and Hannah. She married John D.
YOUNG.
Thanks for any info you can provide and all of your help.
--
Cass Garcia
El Camino Village, California 90249-4008
BURNS, YOUNG, ROBINSON, CLEMENT, CONNER, WHITAKER, CLEMMER, HICKS, and
MATLOCK
TN, IN, TX, NC
The Clemmers/Klemmers of Adams County/York County immigrated from Germany,
having left Zurich about 1687 . Maybe earlier. Let me know if you want more
detail. Annette Burger has detailed the Clemmers who left Zurich, to go to
Germany. DCreeely103(a)aol.com
By the time that Ludwig Clemmer immigrated to York/Adams County, Anna
Elizabeth Boeckel's father, Adam Boeckel, was dead (1742) but she had a
brother with her and her husband , Ludwig Clemmer, and his name was Boeckel,
Valentine. She and her brother had an uncle Valentine Boeckel living there.
Also, their cousin a daughter of Valentine Boeckel, the elder, named Maria
Boeckel , marrried to Jacob Rorhbach. These names come into play after the
death of Anna Elizabeth, Ludwig, and Valentine Boeckel, Anna's brother--all
killed by the Delaware Indian attack of 1757 in which their younger sons were
taken into captivity near Willstown, Md. , and then finally released in 1763.
Does this answer your questions.?
The Valentine Klemmers who immigrated in 1717 to Philadelphia area were
Mennonites. They probably came directly from the Mennonite area of what was
then called ( I shall have to look that one up) but it is in Western France,
my mind just kicked in, MontBeliard now Dups Co. France. Then, it was safe
harbor for persecuted Mennonites. It is just West of Lyons where Bishop
Mennon gathered a flock together with his teachings. The part of the Clemmer
family who fled to Switzerland, that is, to Affoltern, County Zurich,
Switzerland, were not Mennonites. I have an early document, a copy of a
census shwoing that Velentine Clemmer was there in Mount Beliard, until he
left in 1717. Montbeliard borders Switzerland. So, when the Clemmers fled
in 1565/6, it was a matter of slipping over the border. No doubt they were
related. Gotta go cook dinner, Dorothy Creely
The book on Heydrick and Bishop Clemmer IS WRONG.
I told the author Abraham Lapp Clemmer this when he first published his
book. he published it anyway.
The dates for the good Bishop is 1712 for his arrival in America. He was
called by the Mennonite Church of Germantown. Bishop Clemmer had no
children He is reported to have died in 1746.
My Clemmers, we researched and found came to America in 1695. They
settled in Bucks County (Schwamp)
Heydrick came with his brother Ludwig and the Ann and Alexander in 1748
and left his First wife in Freshiem Germany.
All this is carefully documented here and in Germany.
Here is some email with an ongoing discussion. Thought others might like to
share. << Subj: Clemmer/Klemmer/Clymer Date: 99-07-07 From:
jbasinger(a)micronet.net (Jim Basinger) To: WHITE81429(a)aol.com Dear Mr. Hite:
This site has been invaluable for me. Please check my Clemmer/Clymer Home
Page before you post your update. I am a descendant of Henrich Clemmer of
Franconia and propose our possible connection. I think
there needs to be more dialogue about this and dedicated one chapter in my
"book" to WILL THE HENRICH CLEMMER WHOSE NAME APPEARS ON THE SHIP LIST FOR THE
ALEXANDER AND ANN PLEASE STAND UP. Sincerely,
Donna Null Basinger http://www.micronet.net/users/~jb/ >>
Reply from cwh---- Donna, will try to visit your website this weekend.
Despite my
protest, my wife and daughter are remodeling my work-area. Do you belong to
Clemmer- L(a)rootsweb.com our discussion group? Donna, You see the problem
with a birth date of 1700 per gravestone. One question I have is
why did Ludwig Clemmer to America 1747 go directly to Littlestown, PA and not
associate with the Philadelphia Clemmer-Clymer? What do you know about
Valentine Clemmer the Mennonite Preacher ca 1750? It is probable he had a
family & children. Charles Hite------------Subj: Clemmer Date:
99-07-11 From: dbasinger(a)micronet.net (Donna
Basinger) Dear Charles, First, I must make it clear that I have only used
secondary sources
in my research! Your web site opened a whole new dimension for me. I would
not have tied
our families together had it not been for you placing Bishop Valentine and
John Andreas (b.
abt. 1711) in YOUR family. Do you have the book HENRICH AND MARIA CLEMMER
OF FRANCONIA? Abram Lapp Clemmer (his research is the basis for the book)
worked
very hard to make a connection between Bishop Valentine and my Henrich
Clemmer. If there
were any evidence that Henrich were a son or grandson, which he may have
been trying to
prove originally, he would have made that clear. He found none. At the end
of the book he
lists other Clemmer Pioneers. I believe the Jacob Clemmer on page A-13 was
a son of
Valentine and I have included him in my charts. He lived in Swamp as did
Bishop Valentine
(New Milford Township, Bucks County), was a Mennonite and gave his children
the same
names as my Henrich. Bishop Valentine also had a daughter who married Samuel
Lusher
Hunsicker. Their son Valentine Hunsicker and Bishop Valentine came to America
in 1717.----
-Why did Ludwig go directly to Littlestown instead of moving near his
brother John Andreas?
My research shows that by 1747 the area where John Andreas and Henrich
Clemmer had
settled was crowded. Very few farms were available. Land was available in
Adams County.
Also, the Lutheran and Reformed Churches in Indian Fields in 1747 were in
dire straits with
terrible ministers. One minister was an alcoholic, the other an adulterer!
this would have been
common knowledge throughout the area. It was primarily a Mennonite Community
and if
Ludwig and his wife were not Mennonites they may have been willing to settle
elsewhere. Did
Ludwig's wife have relatives settling in the Littlestown area? On your
Klemmer site you have
records from the Philadelphia Lutheran churches in which the Klemmer family
appears as
sponsors and witnesses. Do you think the Henrick and Ann are Ludwig's
parents? Did
Ludwig's parents reunite in Philadelphia and die there? Is Joseph Ludwig's
younger brother?
Thanks so much for getting back to me. I put my name on the Clemmer List.
Donna Null
Basinger
Just read a good genealogy of John and Hanna Hoiffman Clemmer who went to
Monroe Co TN ca 1826. Their daughter Susanna Clemmer b. 1805 m. William
Davis. The DAVIS family came thru NC and Lincoln-Gaston Co also.---Charles
Hite
Walter, Read your genealogy you sent Lenny Clemmer. Very nice work. Danny
Clemmer has Clemmer-L(a)rootsweb.com if someone contacts you about their lost
Clemmer relatives. Charles Hite
Published in the St Paul, MN - Pioneer Press 1999-7-9
CLYMER, Helen age 82, was born in Clark, SD. A graduate of Asbury College,
she lived in New York City and Naperville, IL before moving to Minneapolis
in 1972, where her husband, Wayne K. Clymer, was assigned as Bishop of the
United Methodist Church. She is survived by her husband; by two sons,
Kenton, of El Paso, TX, and Richard, of Hastings, MN; by a sister,
Prudence Oberg of Minnetonka, MN; two brothers, Donald Graves of Wakita,
OK, and Merrill Graves of Spartanburg, SC; six grandchildren, and two
great grandchildren. Thanks to the wonderful staff at Methodist Hospital.
Funeral Service Monday, July 12, 1:30 p.m. at Hennepin Avenue United
Methodist Church, Minneapolis. Visitations: Sunday, July 11, 5-8 p.m. at
the funeral home; Monday, July 12, 12:30 - 1:30 at the church.
Contributions to: Clymer Scholarship Fund, Garrett-Evangelical Theological
Seminary, 2121 Sheridan Rd, Evanston, IL 60201. David Lee Funeral Home
1220 E. Wayzata Blvd. Wayzata, MN 55391 612-473-5577
Danny L. Clemmer
Clemmer LIst Owner
http://www.clemmer.org
Published in the Sutton, WV - Braxton Citizens News 1999-7-7
Katherine Louise Climer
Katherine Louise Climer, 70, of Akron, Ohio died June 22, 1999 in
the Hospice Care
Center, Fairlawn, Ohio after an extended illness.
She was a waitress and a member of the Engel Chapel United
Methodist Church, Gassaway.
Surviving: sons, Jim King of North Ridgeville, Ohio, John Climer of
Athens, Ohio; sisters,
Edith Dobbins of Clem, Jean Ross of Weston, Phyllis Jones and Nellie
Lockhart both of
Gassaway, Linda King of Clarksburg, Norma Hashman of Fairmont, Estel
Hughes of
Alexandria, Kentucky; brothers Leonard King of Gassaway, and David King
of Birch River.
Funeral services were 11:00 a.m., Saturday June 26, 1999 at Richard
M. Roach Funeral
Home in Gassaway with the Rev. Frederick Perry officiating. Burial was
in the Sugar Creek was in the Sugar Creek Cemetery also in Gassaway.
Danny L. Clemmer
Clemmer LIst Owner
http://www.clemmer.org